Understanding LGBTQ sexuality

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Harrison Bergeron
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Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Titus and Titus said:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Money

Read this and learn.


My God man….that was hard to read.

Those poor boys.

Gender ideology is evil…always has been.

Another rotten fruit of the sexual revolution and the LGBTQ movement.
Explain why it is evil?


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Harrison Bergeron
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Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:

How does Waco account for this?



Why should I account for it?


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Harrison Bergeron
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Waco1947 said:

muddybrazos said:

Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Titus and Titus said:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Money

Read this and learn.


My God man….that was hard to read.

Those poor boys.

Gender ideology is evil…always has been.

Another rotten fruit of the sexual revolution and the LGBTQ movement.
Explain why it is evil?
A 1997 academic study criticized Money's work in many respects, particularly in regard to the involuntary sex-reassignment of the child David Reimer, and Money's sexual abuse of Reimer and his twin brother when they were children. Some of Money's sessions involved Money forcing the two children to perform sexual activities with each other, which Money then photographed. David Reimer lived a troubled life, eventually committing suicide at 38; his
brother died of an overdose at age 36.

So which part of what that guy did is not evil to you? Child porn? Sex abuse? involuntary sex reassignment?

Of course money is evil but that doesn't make homosexuality evil


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Waco1947
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I Engage in calling out ignorance not stupidity
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Ideology on the right does not trump science
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Waco1947 said:

Ideology on the right does not trump science


Cutting a little boy' testicles off and forcing him to be raised "as a girl" is certainly ideological….but it's not right wing ideology.

Waco1947
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Redbrickbear said:

Waco1947 said:

Ideology on the right does not trump science


Cutting a little boy' testicles off and forcing him to be raised "as a girl" is certainly ideological….but it's not right wing ideology.


oh, please hyperbole is not helpful here. Your histrionics is also not helpful.
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Redbrickbear
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Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Waco1947 said:

Ideology on the right does not trump science


Cutting a little boy' testicles off and forcing him to be raised "as a girl" is certainly ideological….but it's not right wing ideology.


oh, please hyperbole is not helpful here. Your histrionics is also not helpful.


Uh that literally happened…go read the link above in this thread.

Stop putting your head in the sand about what is being done to children.
Waco1947
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Redbrickbear said:

Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Waco1947 said:

Ideology on the right does not trump science


Cutting a little boy' testicles off and forcing him to be raised "as a girl" is certainly ideological….but it's not right wing ideology.


oh, please hyperbole is not helpful here. Your histrionics is also not helpful.


Uh that literally happened…go read the link above in this thread.

Stop putting your head in the sand about what is being done to children.
uh prove it.
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Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Waco1947 said:

Ideology on the right does not trump science


Cutting a little boy' testicles off and forcing him to be raised "as a girl" is certainly ideological….but it's not right wing ideology.


oh, please hyperbole is not helpful here. Your histrionics is also not helpful.


Uh that literally happened…go read the link above in this thread.

Stop putting your head in the sand about what is being done to children.
uh prove it.


Doesn't "gender reassignment" surgery for males "reassigned" as females literally involves cutting off their testicles? Do you want, uh, pictures or something?
Harrison Bergeron
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Waco1947 said:

I Engage in calling out ignorance not stupidity



Should anorexics be treated or affirmed?
Harrison Bergeron
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Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Waco1947 said:

Ideology on the right does not trump science


Cutting a little boy' testicles off and forcing him to be raised "as a girl" is certainly ideological….but it's not right wing ideology.


oh, please hyperbole is not helpful here. Your histrionics is also not helpful.


Uh that literally happened…go read the link above in this thread.

Stop putting your head in the sand about what is being done to children.
uh prove it.


Should anorexics be treated or affirmed?
Harrison Bergeron
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Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Waco1947 said:

Ideology on the right does not trump science


Cutting a little boy' testicles off and forcing him to be raised "as a girl" is certainly ideological….but it's not right wing ideology.


oh, please hyperbole is not helpful here. Your histrionics is also not helpful.


Should anorexics be treated or affirmed?
Harrison Bergeron
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Waco1947 said:

I Engage in calling out ignorance not stupidity



Should anorexics be treated or affirmed?
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Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

After looking at both articles, I am now educated. I now know that the backwards Focus on the Family folks are misinformed and evil. I now know that the LGBTQMAP advocates are correct and I should not criticize anyone for their "orientation" and should instead encourage the flourishing of all "orientations."

Are you happy now? My happiness is immaterial. Did you learn anything that may change your attitude the LGBTQ community?


You have shown over send over again that you are just trying to disguise your brainwashing experiment as "let us all learn." You get mad every time one of your idiotic takes is cornered into a corner. You are the antithesis of a teachable spirit, someone who cannot accept a different view, it is always your way or the highway.

Why your threads get this attention with such a track record of willful stupid ignorance is beyond me.
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Overweight grown woman cannot function with basic tasks/challenges in life.

Waco47 - EVERYONE else is hateful!

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Waco1947 said:

I Engage in calling out ignorance not stupidity

So it's ok when you personally attack because you are merely calling out ignorance and stupidity?

LOL. You remain a fool.
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Waco1947 said:

Ideology on the right does not trump science
So it's scientific to believe men can be women and vice versa.

Interesting...
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Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Waco1947 said:

Ideology on the right does not trump science


Cutting a little boy' testicles off and forcing him to be raised "as a girl" is certainly ideological….but it's not right wing ideology.


oh, please hyperbole is not helpful here. Your histrionics is also not helpful.
'Oh please' yourself, Waco.

This is from Waco: "I Engage in calling out ignorance not stupidity"

Also Waco: "Ideology on the right does not trump science"

You are the one engaging in irrational pot shots, ignoring the cold hard fact that removing body parts is permanent and irreversible , making it extremely unwise as a course to advise minors to take, especially without their parents' knowledge, support and direction.



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Harrison Bergeron
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The old groomer really lacks the intellectual chops of the average 8th grader.
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Porteroso said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

After looking at both articles, I am now educated. I now know that the backwards Focus on the Family folks are misinformed and evil. I now know that the LGBTQMAP advocates are correct and I should not criticize anyone for their "orientation" and should instead encourage the flourishing of all "orientations."

Are you happy now? My happiness is immaterial. Did you learn anything that may change your attitude the LGBTQ community?


You have shown over send over again that you are just trying to disguise your brainwashing experiment as "let us all learn." You get mad every time one of your idiotic takes is cornered into a corner. You are the antithesis of a teachable spirit, someone who cannot accept a different view, it is always your way or the highway.

Why your threads get this attention with such a track record of willful stupid ignorance is beyond me.
Yep.
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Harrison Bergeron
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Harrison Bergeron said:

TWD 1974 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

TWD 1974 said:

Waco1947 said:

Focus on the Family is a conservative Christian organization. What they say here in this article is probably your church teaches and certainly the Baptist Church and your nom-denominational churches. So to be fair, I am posting their website. Focus on the Family says in part:
As with any sinful behavior, it's not about being tempted it's about willfully engaging in activity that goes against God's law. So it's possible to be a Christian and, at the same time, wrestle with same-sex attraction. But we can't be faithful, obedient Christians while willingly involving ourselves in any sexual practices that the Bible says are sinful.
Here their website https://www.focusonthefamily.com/get-help/understanding-homosexuality/

I believe Focus on the Family is doing great harm to LGBTQ kids.

Now compare this understanding of sexual orientation from the American Psychological Association.

"Sexual orientation is commonly discussed as if it were solely a characteristic of an individual, like biological sex, gender identity, or age. This perspective is incomplete because sexual orientation is defined in terms of relationships with others. People express their sexual orientation through behaviors with others, including such simple actions as holding hands or kissing. Thus, sexual orientation is closely tied to the intimate personal relationships that meet deeply felt needs for love, attachment, and intimacy. In addition to sexual behaviors, these bonds include nonsexual physical affection between partners, shared goals and values, mutual support, and ongoing commitment.

Therefore, sexual orientation is not merely a personal characteristic within an individual. Rather, one's sexual orientation defines the group of people in which one is likely to find the satisfying and fulfilling romantic relationships that are an essential component of personal identity for many people."

Read the whole article here. https://www.apa.org/topics/lgbtq/orientation

Read both articles. Now get educated. .
I know this has become an enormous issue, this year...it reminds me of a return trip to Texas a number of years ago, where I sampled listening to 3 sermons from three pastors and 3 Churches on the same weekend: they all focused on the evils of Homosexuality. I was puzzled by this, wondering if there was a sudden outbreak in Texas I was unaware of...

Some statistics I found, there are roughly 26 million Children in the US between the ages of 12-17. In the most recent study I could find 2017-2021, there were 127,000 cases identified as having gender dysphoria. The number of cases where there was a gender changing surgery? Less that 1000 over 5 years. Does the hysteria of the moment fit the size of the problem?

What is much, much more common (more than 400,000 US annually) is the number of Children born each year with ambiguous genitalia, where agonized parents consult with doctors on which gender path should they choose for their infant. . If gender change at 17 or 18 is evil, why is it not when done in infancy?
I will assume you're not being vapid and attempt to respond as such. You're mixing sex (a scientific reality) with gender (a psychological fantasy). Children born with ambiguous genitalia suffer from a physiological-medical condition. Children with gender dysphoria traditionally suffered from a mental condition similar to anorexia but currently largely suffer from attention-seeking social contagion.

While the motte and bailey is cute, conversion therapy on children is more than just surgery. Pumping them full of off-label pharmaceuticals has similar long-term physiological effects. I will stand on the right-side of history that would put children's well-being above Big Pharma profits.
The procedures, whether at birth or later in life, seek to create or modify the sex organs. Hence, the correlation. I have no comment on whether or not gender dysphoria is promulgated by Psychobabble. I know there are some wonderful, competent people in the profession, but doubt they make a majority. I would agree there is a tendency to make the pharmaceutical solution the only one.

To return to the points I was trying to make-- our society is obsessed with a problem that is statistically quite small. Secondly, when looking at the numbers, we do not know how many of those seeking gender change were born with the ambiguity. Finally, we need better long-term research on the issue, while turning off the fake religious outrage on a subject none of us fully understand. Getting advice from Focus on the Family on this issue is about as wise as getting your heart transplant at the Baylor Infirmary.
Here is another example of a left-wing extremist state that is obsessed with regulating an phenomenon that you believe does not exist. Do you think this is another Burned-over District but this time left-wing nutjob fundamentalists? Or - equally as likely - is New York just run by highly educated morons "obsessed with a problem that is statistically quite small."

New York is losing it's mind over a few illegal aliens and is living with self-inflicted economic and record crime problems, so what is your theory why the left-wing extremists are obsessed with conversion therapy?


You made such a great point, I am really curious at why you think Democrat extremists are so obsessed with an
issue that affects virtually no one. Look forward to your analysis.
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Waco1947 said:

Ideology on the right does not trump science
Gods word is ideology of the right now.. you are lost.

I will pray for you.
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LGBTQ person struggles with....an unscented bathroom. The struggle is real.
Welcome to mahood.

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Over / under on if the old groomer ever will answer if anorexics should be affirmed or treated?
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Over / under on if the old groomer ever will answer if anorexics should be affirmed or treated?


Come now, believing that you are fat contrary to the evidence is very different from believing that you are a man or a woman contrary to the evidence. He will be able to clearly and convincingly explain how and why.
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Jack Bauer said:

LGBTQ person struggles with....an unscented bathroom. The struggle is real.
Welcome to mahood.


Men don't need nice soap and plants in the crapper. Or tampons. Just give me toilet paper and paper towels.
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Jack Bauer said:

LGBTQ person struggles with....an unscented bathroom. The struggle is real.
Welcome to mahood.


Men don't need nice soap and plants in the crapper. Or tampons. Just give me toilet paper and paper towels.
TP? Paper Towels?
Shoot...
Corn cobs and pine cones are all real men need!
And absolutely NO matches!
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EatMoreSalmon said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Jack Bauer said:

LGBTQ person struggles with....an unscented bathroom. The struggle is real.
Welcome to mahood.


Men don't need nice soap and plants in the crapper. Or tampons. Just give me toilet paper and paper towels.
TP? Paper Towels?
Shoot...
Corn cobs and pine cones are all real men need!
And absolutely NO matches!
AckAckAckAckAck!!!!! Corn cobs. You are showing your age EatMoreSalmon!
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Waco47 doesn't understand that the "LGB"s don't accept the "T"s anymore.

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I really do feel for the parents...no way in hell I would be filmed for this.

Waco1947
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Mothra said:

Waco1947 said:

Ideology on the right does not trump science
So it's scientific to believe men can be women and vice versa.

Interesting...
Misinterpretation of science. Your claim is Shallow and sophomoric but you are not alone in your ignorance. College educated people should be able to research gender identification and come to a more modern, scientific conclusion. Too many are driven by religious dogma and not by study and science.
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Waco1947 said:

Mothra said:

Waco1947 said:

Ideology on the right does not trump science
So it's scientific to believe men can be women and vice versa.

Interesting...
Misinterpretation of science. Your claim is Shallow and sophomoric but you are not alone in your ignorance. College educated people should be able to research gender identification and come to a more modern, scientific conclusion. Too many are driven by religious dogma and not by study and science.
Now you are just lying through and through, Waco.

Sex cannot be changed, even if you call it 'gender' instead of 'sex'.

Stick with selling the false Gospel, at least you are better at that than your fake efforts to pretend you understand Science.
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Waco1947 said:

Mothra said:

Waco1947 said:

Ideology on the right does not trump science
So it's scientific to believe men can be women and vice versa.

Interesting...
Misinterpretation of science. Your claim is Shallow and sophomoric but you are not alone in your ignorance. College educated people should be able to research gender identification and come to a more modern, scientific conclusion. Too many are driven by religious dogma and not by study and science.


If you are a man but you believe that you are a woman you are suffering from a mental illness. There is no religious dogma involved here. It is no different than if you are a human but you believe you are a cow.
Harrison Bergeron
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Waco1947 said:

Mothra said:

Waco1947 said:

Ideology on the right does not trump science
So it's scientific to believe men can be women and vice versa.

Interesting...
Misinterpretation of science. Your claim is Shallow and sophomoric but you are not alone in your ignorance. College educated people should be able to research gender identification and come to a more modern, scientific conclusion. Too many are driven by religious dogma and not by study and science.
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