Waco1947 said:It is not delusional. I gave reasons earlier . Look it up yourselfJXL said:Waco1947 said:That one defines their gender identity differently that their biological sex is not delusional but a recognition of their sexual identity as they perceive themselves. That perception is none of y9ur business.D. C. Bear said:Waco1947 said:
Gender identity is not sex.
It matches the vast majority of the time, but sometimes people experience delusional thinking where they believe they are actually not a man even though they have XY chromosomes and all of the associated male hormones and secondary sex characteristics.
Again, "gender identity" is not "sex," by definition.
However, a person can get his or her gender identity wrong insofar as gender identity involves the belief that one is a man or a woman and whether you are a man or a woman is, objectively and measurably, determined by sex. We can test whether a person's gender identity is correct by whether it matches his or her actual sex. There are physical characteristics, primarily chromosomal characteristics, that are required for someone to be classified as male or female. (There are rare instances where these characteristics are jumbled but these intersex individuals are not what we see with the transgender mass hysteria currently in vogue).
If gender identity and sex does not match the individual is suffering from something that is causing them to be deluded.
It's not delusional? So if someone said that "sometimes people experience delusional thinking where they believe they are actually not a man even though they have XY chromosomes and all of the associated male hormones and secondary sex characteristics," you would disagree with them?
JXL said:Waco1947 said:It is not delusional. I gave reasons earlier . Look it up yourselfJXL said:Waco1947 said:That one defines their gender identity differently that their biological sex is not delusional but a recognition of their sexual identity as they perceive themselves. That perception is none of y9ur business.D. C. Bear said:Waco1947 said:
Gender identity is not sex.
It matches the vast majority of the time, but sometimes people experience delusional thinking where they believe they are actually not a man even though they have XY chromosomes and all of the associated male hormones and secondary sex characteristics.
Again, "gender identity" is not "sex," by definition.
However, a person can get his or her gender identity wrong insofar as gender identity involves the belief that one is a man or a woman and whether you are a man or a woman is, objectively and measurably, determined by sex. We can test whether a person's gender identity is correct by whether it matches his or her actual sex. There are physical characteristics, primarily chromosomal characteristics, that are required for someone to be classified as male or female. (There are rare instances where these characteristics are jumbled but these intersex individuals are not what we see with the transgender mass hysteria currently in vogue).
If gender identity and sex does not match the individual is suffering from something that is causing them to be deluded.
It's not delusional? So if someone said that "sometimes people experience delusional thinking where they believe they are actually not a man even though they have XY chromosomes and all of the associated male hormones and secondary sex characteristics," you would disagree with them?
You realize I was quoting you, right?
oh okay, I missed where you had said it.D. C. Bear said:JXL said:Waco1947 said:It is not delusional. I gave reasons earlier . Look it up yourselfJXL said:Waco1947 said:That one defines their gender identity differently that their biological sex is not delusional but a recognition of their sexual identity as they perceive themselves. That perception is none of y9ur business.D. C. Bear said:Waco1947 said:
Gender identity is not sex.
It matches the vast majority of the time, but sometimes people experience delusional thinking where they believe they are actually not a man even though they have XY chromosomes and all of the associated male hormones and secondary sex characteristics.
Again, "gender identity" is not "sex," by definition.
However, a person can get his or her gender identity wrong insofar as gender identity involves the belief that one is a man or a woman and whether you are a man or a woman is, objectively and measurably, determined by sex. We can test whether a person's gender identity is correct by whether it matches his or her actual sex. There are physical characteristics, primarily chromosomal characteristics, that are required for someone to be classified as male or female. (There are rare instances where these characteristics are jumbled but these intersex individuals are not what we see with the transgender mass hysteria currently in vogue).
If gender identity and sex does not match the individual is suffering from something that is causing them to be deluded.
It's not delusional? So if someone said that "sometimes people experience delusional thinking where they believe they are actually not a man even though they have XY chromosomes and all of the associated male hormones and secondary sex characteristics," you would disagree with them?
You realize I was quoting you, right?
He was quoting me without any attribution or, apparently, any reason.
No one wants it to be their business... except for the delusional trans person. They INSIST that you make it your business to "validate" their delusions.... and THAT is the problem with all of this.Waco1947 said:That one defines their gender identity differently that their biological sex is not delusional but a recognition of their sexual identity as they perceive themselves. That perception is none of y9ur business.D. C. Bear said:Waco1947 said:
Gender identity is not sex.
It matches the vast majority of the time, but sometimes people experience delusional thinking where they believe they are actually not a man even though they have XY chromosomes and all of the associated male hormones and secondary sex characteristics.
Again, "gender identity" is not "sex," by definition.
However, a person can get his or her gender identity wrong insofar as gender identity involves the belief that one is a man or a woman and whether you are a man or a woman is, objectively and measurably, determined by sex. We can test whether a person's gender identity is correct by whether it matches his or her actual sex. There are physical characteristics, primarily chromosomal characteristics, that are required for someone to be classified as male or female. (There are rare instances where these characteristics are jumbled but these intersex individuals are not what we see with the transgender mass hysteria currently in vogue).
If gender identity and sex does not match the individual is suffering from something that is causing them to be deluded.
BREAKING: Natalie Pershall, a man pretending to be a woman was just sentenced to 6 years probation, 87 days in jail, and must register as a s*x offender for taking pictures of females in the women's bathroom of his company's office.
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) March 27, 2024
This is what happens when you have "inclusive"… pic.twitter.com/RqJO6HuNWs
The Beryl Ackroyd Cup is the female pre-season soccer competition in north-west Sydney.
— John Ruddick MLC (@JohnRuddick2) March 26, 2024
Over the past weekend this team, The Flying Bats, (including five trans-women) won the grand final 4-0.
@KirralieS pic.twitter.com/04Tk04Pbp1
pretty soon it will be mens sports and men who identify as women sports.. Title 9 is working perfectly!Jack Bauer said:
Waco47 - "It's none of your business and doesn't affect you!"BREAKING: Natalie Pershall, a man pretending to be a woman was just sentenced to 6 years probation, 87 days in jail, and must register as a s*x offender for taking pictures of females in the women's bathroom of his company's office.
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) March 27, 2024
This is what happens when you have "inclusive"… pic.twitter.com/RqJO6HuNWsThe Beryl Ackroyd Cup is the female pre-season soccer competition in north-west Sydney.
— John Ruddick MLC (@JohnRuddick2) March 26, 2024
Over the past weekend this team, The Flying Bats, (including five trans-women) won the grand final 4-0.
@KirralieS pic.twitter.com/04Tk04Pbp1
Parenting coach tells parents to cross-dress themselves in order to help them feel comfortable with their nonbinary or trans kids cross-dressing.
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) March 28, 2024
She coincidentally also has a “trans nonbinary child.”
There’s no such thing as “trans kids.” There are only groomer adults. pic.twitter.com/p0VQiiSjNP
Jack Bauer said:Parenting coach tells parents to cross-dress themselves in order to help them feel comfortable with their nonbinary or trans kids cross-dressing.
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) March 28, 2024
She coincidentally also has a “trans nonbinary child.”
There’s no such thing as “trans kids.” There are only groomer adults. pic.twitter.com/p0VQiiSjNP
D. C. Bear said:Waco1947 said:That one defines their gender identity differently that their biological sex is not delusional but a recognition of their sexual identity as they perceive themselves. That perception is none of y9ur business.D. C. Bear said:Waco1947 said:
Gender identity is not sex.
It matches the vast majority of the time, but sometimes people experience delusional thinking where they believe they are actually not a man even though they have XY chromosomes and all of the associated male hormones and secondary sex characteristics.
Again, "gender identity" is not "sex," by definition.
However, a person can get his or her gender identity wrong insofar as gender identity involves the belief that one is a man or a woman and whether you are a man or a woman is, objectively and measurably, determined by sex. We can test whether a person's gender identity is correct by whether it matches his or her actual sex. There are physical characteristics, primarily chromosomal characteristics, that are required for someone to be classified as male or female. (There are rare instances where these characteristics are jumbled but these intersex individuals are not what we see with the transgender mass hysteria currently in vogue).
If gender identity and sex does not match the individual is suffering from something that is causing them to be deluded.
They perceive themselves incorrectly IYHO. but that statement is simply ignorance.
I am morally obligated to oppose injustice and having a man participate in women's sports as though he was a woman is an injustice to female athletes. You are probably right about an injustice to women but your observation has nothing to do with gender identity. Let the transfolk be and let the courts sort out the injustice.
"When my child is forced under color of law"
What do you "forced". It is a matter of simple respect for another human. Your hatred of trans people colors your child's understanding of human sexuality so that your child may bully another kids bc they are trans.
JXL said:Waco1947 said:It is not delusional. I gave reasons earlier . Look it up yourselfJXL said:Waco1947 said:That one defines their gender identity differently that their biological sex is not delusional but a recognition of their sexual identity as they perceive themselves. That perception is none of y9ur business.D. C. Bear said:Waco1947 said:
Gender identity is not sex.
It matches the vast majority of the time, but sometimes people experience delusional thinking where they believe they are actually not a man even though they have XY chromosomes and all of the associated male hormones and secondary sex characteristics.
Again, "gender identity" is not "sex," by definition.
However, a person can get his or her gender identity wrong insofar as gender identity involves the belief that one is a man or a woman and whether you are a man or a woman is, objectively and measurably, determined by sex. We can test whether a person's gender identity is correct by whether it matches his or her actual sex. There are physical characteristics, primarily chromosomal characteristics, that are required for someone to be classified as male or female. (There are rare instances where these characteristics are jumbled but these intersex individuals are not what we see with the transgender mass hysteria currently in vogue).
If gender identity and sex does not match the individual is suffering from something that is causing them to be deluded.
It's not delusional? So if someone said that "sometimes people experience delusional thinking where they believe they are actually not a man even though they have XY chromosomes and all of the associated male hormones and secondary sex characteristics," you would disagree with them?
You realize I was quoting you, right? Not following you. Help me out.
Possibly you don't understands what he means here, I will mark it up to that. Otherwise your bigotry is showing again against DC for no reason whatsoever.Waco1947 said:D. C. Bear said:Waco1947 said:That one defines their gender identity differently that their biological sex is not delusional but a recognition of their sexual identity as they perceive themselves. That perception is none of y9ur business.D. C. Bear said:Waco1947 said:
Gender identity is not sex.
It matches the vast majority of the time, but sometimes people experience delusional thinking where they believe they are actually not a man even though they have XY chromosomes and all of the associated male hormones and secondary sex characteristics.
Again, "gender identity" is not "sex," by definition.
However, a person can get his or her gender identity wrong insofar as gender identity involves the belief that one is a man or a woman and whether you are a man or a woman is, objectively and measurably, determined by sex. We can test whether a person's gender identity is correct by whether it matches his or her actual sex. There are physical characteristics, primarily chromosomal characteristics, that are required for someone to be classified as male or female. (There are rare instances where these characteristics are jumbled but these intersex individuals are not what we see with the transgender mass hysteria currently in vogue).
If gender identity and sex does not match the individual is suffering from something that is causing them to be deluded.
They perceive themselves incorrectly IYHO. but that statement is simply ignorance.
I am morally obligated to oppose injustice and having a man participate in women's sports as though he was a woman is an injustice to female athletes. You are probably right about an injustice to women but your observation has nothing to do with gender identity. Let the transfolk be and let the courts sort out the injustice.
"When my child is forced under color of law"
What do you "forced". It is a matter of simple respect for another human. Your hatred of trans people colors your child's understanding of human sexuality so that your child may bully another kids bc they are trans.
Waco1947 said:
On Stupidity
"Stupidity is a more dangerous enemy of the good than malice. One may protest against evil; it can be exposed and, if need be, prevented … Against stupidity we are defenseless … reasons fall on deaf ears; facts that contradict one's prejudices simply need not be believed … when facts are irrefutable they are just pushed aside as inconsequential."
The stupid person is often stubborn … one virtually feels that one is dealing not at all with him as a person, but with slogans, catchwords, and the like … He is under a spell, blinded, misused, and abused in his very being … Having thus become a mindless tool, the stupid person will also be capable of any evil and at the same time incapable of seeing that it is evil." Dietrich Bonhoeffer
Waco1947 said:D. C. Bear said:Waco1947 said:That one defines their gender identity differently that their biological sex is not delusional but a recognition of their sexual identity as they perceive themselves. That perception is none of y9ur business.D. C. Bear said:Waco1947 said:
Gender identity is not sex.
It matches the vast majority of the time, but sometimes people experience delusional thinking where they believe they are actually not a man even though they have XY chromosomes and all of the associated male hormones and secondary sex characteristics.
Again, "gender identity" is not "sex," by definition.
However, a person can get his or her gender identity wrong insofar as gender identity involves the belief that one is a man or a woman and whether you are a man or a woman is, objectively and measurably, determined by sex. We can test whether a person's gender identity is correct by whether it matches his or her actual sex. There are physical characteristics, primarily chromosomal characteristics, that are required for someone to be classified as male or female. (There are rare instances where these characteristics are jumbled but these intersex individuals are not what we see with the transgender mass hysteria currently in vogue).
If gender identity and sex does not match the individual is suffering from something that is causing them to be deluded.
They perceive themselves incorrectly IYHO. but that statement is simply ignorance.
I am morally obligated to oppose injustice and having a man participate in women's sports as though he was a woman is an injustice to female athletes. You are probably right about an injustice to women but your observation has nothing to do with gender identity. Let the transfolk be and let the courts sort out the injustice.
"When my child is forced under color of law"
What do you "forced". It is a matter of simple respect for another human. Your hatred of trans people colors your child's understanding of human sexuality so that your child may bully another kids bc they are trans.
The Jacksonville Sheriff's Office @JSOPIO is seeking information on the man who was caught filming women in the women's bathroom at a store in Florida.
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) March 29, 2024
If you have information, please reach out to them! https://t.co/pVP4CQI1v4 pic.twitter.com/6StXSyLfM9
A football team with FIVE trans-identified male players is dominating a women's league in Australia.
— REDUXX (@ReduxxMag) March 29, 2024
Reduxx can now confirm that one of players is Riley Dennis, a trans activist YouTuber previously accused of injuring female players on another team.https://t.co/xzBtrNGxqD
Another women’s title lost to a man ⬇️ https://t.co/kyrIbHNLg6
— ICONS (@icons_women) March 24, 2024
Waco1947 said:D. C. Bear said:Waco1947 said:That one defines their gender identity differently that their biological sex is not delusional but a recognition of their sexual identity as they perceive themselves. That perception is none of y9ur business.D. C. Bear said:Waco1947 said:
Gender identity is not sex.
It matches the vast majority of the time, but sometimes people experience delusional thinking where they believe they are actually not a man even though they have XY chromosomes and all of the associated male hormones and secondary sex characteristics.
Again, "gender identity" is not "sex," by definition.
However, a person can get his or her gender identity wrong insofar as gender identity involves the belief that one is a man or a woman and whether you are a man or a woman is, objectively and measurably, determined by sex. We can test whether a person's gender identity is correct by whether it matches his or her actual sex. There are physical characteristics, primarily chromosomal characteristics, that are required for someone to be classified as male or female. (There are rare instances where these characteristics are jumbled but these intersex individuals are not what we see with the transgender mass hysteria currently in vogue).
If gender identity and sex does not match the individual is suffering from something that is causing them to be deluded.
They perceive themselves incorrectly IYHO. but that statement is simply ignorance.
I am morally obligated to oppose injustice and having a man participate in women's sports as though he was a woman is an injustice to female athletes. You are probably right about an injustice to women but your observation has nothing to do with gender identity. Let the transfolk be and let the courts sort out the injustice.
"When my child is forced under color of law"
What do you "forced". It is a matter of simple respect for another human. Your hatred of trans people colors your child's understanding of human sexuality so that your child may bully another kids bc they are trans.
On the day set aside for nearly 2,000 years for the commemoration of Christ’s resurrection following His crucifixion, the regime chose to declare a day of worship of gender goblins. This regime is evil and demonic. There is no other way of describing it at this point. https://t.co/TvBfnO8Mqj
— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) March 30, 2024
One chilling stat shouldve been the end of this "debate". Teens referred to Tavistock clinic were *10 times* more likely to have a parent in the sex offender registry than national average. These are victims of child abuse, and for treatment we are cutting their bodies. Medieval.
— rutheday99 (@rutheday99) March 29, 2024
historian said:
"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them." Genesis 1:27
There are no other options.
The annual celebration started 15 years ago. The organizer "chose the springtime date because she wanted some distance from Transgender Day of Remembrance as well as Pride Month, which is in June." NPR interviewed her here https://t.co/q5HK5USSXG
— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) March 30, 2024
KaiBear said:historian said:
"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them." Genesis 1:27
There are no other options.
Evil , miserable people always believe in demonic options .
a man? Brian Stelter is a potatoJack Bauer said:
Thats a man baby.The annual celebration started 15 years ago. The organizer "chose the springtime date because she wanted some distance from Transgender Day of Remembrance as well as Pride Month, which is in June." NPR interviewed her here https://t.co/q5HK5USSXG
— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) March 30, 2024
historian said:KaiBear said:historian said:
"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them." Genesis 1:27
There are no other options.
Evil , miserable people always believe in demonic options .
Demonic options, by definition, are in opposition to God. That is evil. Also by definition.
a couple of takes from this, and please note, when i say "you", i mean it in the plural sense, not you personally, but you seem to talk a lot about the bible, but whenever there is a problematic point in the Old Testament (and there are several) you always say that you are a New Testament Christian, but you always pick and choose the bits from the Old Testament which suit your particular Agenda.historian said:
"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them." Genesis 1:27
There are no other options.
cms186 said:a couple of takes from this, and please note, when i say "you", i mean it in the plural sense, not you personally, but you seem to talk a lot about the bible, but whenever there is a problematic point in the Old Testament (and there are several) you always say that you are a New Testament Christian, but you always pick and choose the bits from the Old Testament which suit your particular Agenda.historian said:
"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them." Genesis 1:27
There are no other options.
Ignoring that though, if you accept this particular quotation at face value and hold it as a honest belief, then surely you must be against any kind of Body Altering surgery? isnt that messing with Gods image? If God wanted you to have a Flat Chest or Wonky Teeth, or a Cleft Palate, or Astigmatism, shouldnt you then accept Gods image as it is and not cut off (or inject substances into) whatever parts of your body you want to?
