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I think some people might have legitimate complaints. Maybe the newer centers don't have water, pollution, or energy issues but the older ones do according to multiple accounts.

I don't know what the noise pollution problem is like beyond the descriptions I've heard but I can imagine it might be like that of a group of windmills. Those ugly things are noisy! I know I wouldn't want to live near a data center. But I don't want to live too close to a railroad line.

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The newer ones aren't "better".

Its just propaganda fed to the same idiots who think they are going to receive some kind of economic benefit from these dystopian, surveillance-state resource parasites... all the benefits are going to same people they always go to and the rest of us pay for it all by further degrading our quality of life.

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It seems that every election year the GOP candidates in statewide races are behind in the polls and end up winning in November, often by sizable margins. It's been this way for 30 years and there is no reason to think it will be different now.

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From what I'm seeing, rural Texans are pissed about Data Centers. And are blaming Abbott. (and Republicans).

They may not come home.

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That's the current-day equivalent of opposing motorized vehicles or the internet. The states that go forward with these are going to be way ahead of the ones that don't.

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I 100% support putting a data center next to your trailer.

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Nice to see your string of being a complete ****ing moron on all issues continue unabated.

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Hey Robert, get a load of this idiot...

DeSantis says AI Data Centers have no economic benefit for locals!

“Once it's done, it employs like a half dozen people. And these tech companies will likely bring in FOREIGNERS on some visa.” pic.twitter.com/eBl8X6SrEU

— Ron DeSantis News 🇺🇸 (@RonDeSantis2024) August 17, 2026

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As far as economic impact goes, it would be difficult to overstate the economic benefits of just the data center campus that Elon is building now just southeast of College Station.

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Elon laughs at people worried about his data center using their water

Big Dr Evil energy here pic.twitter.com/Ao4gDhfqEv

— C-Bo the Eggman (@CBoTheEggman) August 15, 2026

A golf course uses more water than a AI center. There's already 5000 AI data centers in USA. Elon DS. We need more government and less free enterprise., yea right. They can generate their own power. They generate a lot of $$$ and make life better for us. It's progress.

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A golf course uses more water than a AI center. There's already 5000 AI data centers in USA. Elon DS. We need more government and less free enterprise., yea right. They can generate their own power. They generate a lot of $$$ and make life better for us. It's progress.

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How? How will data centers make lives better? There proximity makes people miserable and devalues their property and the AI they generate will be used by the government to push propaganda and attack our privacy.

It takes an entire bottle of water for AI to write a single email.... I suppose a golf course could theoretically use more water if its running its sprinklers non-stop and wasting water... but now we are in the same territory as two wrongs make a right.

SCOOP: James Talarico's campaign has hired a new deputy political director

It's Jacob Smith, a leg aide for John Cornyn

"That is unheard of," one GOP operative said of the hire

w/ legends @reesejgorman @alweaver22 https://t.co/A3gie7TXmU

— Igor Bobic (@igorbobic) August 17, 2026

🚨 James Talarico calls for Texas's THC ban to be reversed:

“Texans aren’t going to stop smoking weed and eating edibles because politicians in Austin say so." pic.twitter.com/ciSAMJv2xn

— Democrats Deliver (@DemzDeliver) August 17, 2026

Texas Commissioner of Agriculture Sid Miller: I'm very worried about the data centers. We're going way too fast. The reason they come to Texas, our counties have no oversight ability so they can just do whatever. 

Abbott has got a huge conflict of interest, he has taken millions… pic.twitter.com/Bhi8UpbnsH

— Acyn (@Acyn) August 17, 2026

Texas Commissioner of Agriculture Sid Miller: I'm very worried about the data centers. We're going way too fast. The reason they come to Texas, our counties have no oversight ability so they can just do whatever.

Abbott has got a huge conflict of interest, he has taken millions of dollars from the data center industry. I said, you know, governor, you ought to just give that back, if you're truly flip-flopping and you were big on bringing the data centers in but right before the midterm election trying, you know, garner votes by looking tough on data centers, give the money back.

Pen theft?

Texas governor's data center moratorium prompts calls for special legislative session

"Let's be very clear about this: Abbott can take action now to end the data center madness," Austin state Rep. Gina Hinojosa, the Democratic nominee for governor, said in a statement. "He could issue a moratorium until the legislature meets to put in place real protections for Texans and give them a seat at the table to decide if and how data centers move into their communities."

I'm just curious if any of the people here supporting data centers would choose to live next to one?

What about you Robert? You are pretty stupid... if there were going to be any takers I would expect it to be you!

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Most data centers use less water than 2 In-N-Out restaurants & less than golf courses

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I just fact checked you:

An 18 hole golf course uses up to 300,000 gallons of water a day.

A large hyperscale (they are all large) uses 1 million to 5 million gallons of water a day - the equivalent to a town of 10-50,000 residents.

And unlike golf course, they pollute the water too:

"Cooling systems release treated blowdown water containing chemical additives, heavy metals, and high mineral concentrations that can strain municipal treatment plants and threaten local aquatic ecosystems if not properly managed"

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Yea, I think the discrepancy is when people compare ALL golf courses to all data centers

In that case then yes data centers use less….but a individual data center uses far more water than a individual golf course

[U.S. golf courses collectively use about 2 billion to 2.08 billion gallons of water per day for turf irrigation. In contrast, all U.S. data centers combined consume an estimated 449 million gallons or less per day directly for cooling, meaning golf courses use roughly 4 to 5 times more water on a national scale.]

P.S.

I still think data centers are a good idea for rural counties with low tax rolls and in areas of the country with a lot of water.

It's worth it for rural Kentucky to build them.

Probably not worth it for the Texas Triangle area to do it

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Most data centers use less water than 2 In-N-Out restaurants & less than golf courses

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I just fact checked you:

An 18 hole golf course uses up to 300,000 gallons of water a day.

A large hyperscale (they are all large) uses 1 million to 5 million gallons of water a day - the equivalent to a town of 10-50,000 residents.

And unlike golf course, they pollute the water too:

"Cooling systems release treated blowdown water containing chemical additives, heavy metals, and high mineral concentrations that can strain municipal treatment plants and threaten local aquatic ecosystems if not properly managed"

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Yea, I think the discrepancy is when people compare ALL golf courses to all data centers

In that case then yes data centers use less….but a individual data center uses far more water than a individual golf course

[U.S. golf courses collectively use about 2 billion to 2.08 billion gallons of water per day for turf irrigation. In contrast, all U.S. data centers combined consume an estimated 449 million gallons or less per day directly for cooling, meaning golf courses use roughly 4 to 5 times more water on a national scale.]

P.S.

I still think data centers are a good idea for rural counties with low tax rolls and in areas of the country with a lot of water.

It's worth it for rural Kentucky to build them.

Probably not worth it for the Texas Triangle area to do it

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You are usually pretty even-keel and on the right side of things Red.

You are always respectful and have great insight and input.

I think we should treat them as we would a nuclear power station. Keep them away from large population centers and important agricultural areas and do a ten year study seeing the impact they have on the surroundings.

It is completely asinine that they are building these things in large urban areas and placing them right next to residential communities. There is no reason for this multi-billion dollar, multi-national corporations to be doing this other than to be *******s and plunder the existing infrastructure the property owners in the area paid to set up.



Westlake is a ultra-affluent community. If they can come in and set-up data centers there, they can do it anywhere in the state of Texas. Of course the people doing dont live in Texas so why should they care. They own private islands in the Caribbean or Hawaii.

Between data centers and H1bs, Greg Abbott has well-earned his forced retirement in November. I've been voting against the guy for several elections now but will be voting for his Democrat opponent this fall. It will be the first time I have ever voted Democrat in my life... I feel like Greg Abbott is a greater threat to my pursuit of happiness than Gina Hinojosa. When we needed him to be strong during COVID or the Biden border invasion he did nothing. He is worthless... Texas politicians in general are some of the worst in the nation.

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Most data centers use less water than 2 In-N-Out restaurants & less than golf courses

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I just fact checked you:

An 18 hole golf course uses up to 300,000 gallons of water a day.

A large hyperscale (they are all large) uses 1 million to 5 million gallons of water a day - the equivalent to a town of 10-50,000 residents.

And unlike golf course, they pollute the water too:

"Cooling systems release treated blowdown water containing chemical additives, heavy metals, and high mineral concentrations that can strain municipal treatment plants and threaten local aquatic ecosystems if not properly managed"

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Yea, I think the discrepancy is when people compare ALL golf courses to all data centers

In that case then yes data centers use less….but a individual data center uses far more water than a individual golf course

[U.S. golf courses collectively use about 2 billion to 2.08 billion gallons of water per day for turf irrigation. In contrast, all U.S. data centers combined consume an estimated 449 million gallons or less per day directly for cooling, meaning golf courses use roughly 4 to 5 times more water on a national scale.]

P.S.

I still think data centers are a good idea for rural counties with low tax rolls and in areas of the country with a lot of water.

It's worth it for rural Kentucky to build them.

Probably not worth it for the Texas Triangle area to do it

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I think we should treat them as we would a nuclear power station. Keep them away from large population centers and important agricultural areas and do a ten year study seeing the impact they have on the surroundings.

It is completely asinine that they are building these things in large urban areas and placing them right next to residential communities. There is no reason for this multi-billion dollar, multi-national corporations to be doing this other than to be *******s and plunder the existing infrastructure the property owners in the area paid to set up.

Westlake is a ultra-affluent community. If they can come in and set-up data centers there, they can do it anywhere in the state of Texas. Of course the people doing dont live in Texas so why should they care. They own private islands in the Caribbean or Hawaii.

Between data centers and H1bs, Greg Abbott has well-earned his forced retirement in November. I've been voting against the guy for several elections now but will be voting for his Democrat opponent this fall. It will be the first time I have ever voted Democrat in my life...

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Agree, Westlake is a prime example of an area NOT to put in a data center.


Somewhere like Sabine county in East Texas (pop. 10,000....and has been that population-stagnated for 40 years) should be the kind of place that needs a data center

Needs the Tax revenue, has plenty of water resources in East Texas to serve it, has low population density and can have a facility built that is 2-3 miles away from any residents.

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A golf course uses more water than a AI center. There's already 5000 AI data centers in USA. Elon DS. We need more government and less free enterprise., yea right. They can generate their own power. They generate a lot of $$$ and make life better for us. It's progress.

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How? How will data centers make lives better? There proximity makes people miserable and devalues their property and the AI they generate will be used by the government to push propaganda and attack our privacy.

It takes an entire bottle of water for AI to write a single email.... I suppose a golf course could theoretically use more water if its running its sprinklers non-stop and wasting water... but now we are in the same territory as two wrongs make a right.

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Golf course aren't using drinking water - more courses pull directly from rivers / ponds. So, why aren't DC made to put in place a retention pond and use that water...

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Most data centers use less water than 2 In-N-Out restaurants & less than golf courses

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I just fact checked you:

An 18 hole golf course uses up to 300,000 gallons of water a day.

A large hyperscale (they are all large) uses 1 million to 5 million gallons of water a day - the equivalent to a town of 10-50,000 residents.

And unlike golf course, they pollute the water too:

"Cooling systems release treated blowdown water containing chemical additives, heavy metals, and high mineral concentrations that can strain municipal treatment plants and threaten local aquatic ecosystems if not properly managed"

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Yea, I think the discrepancy is when people compare ALL golf courses to all data centers

In that case then yes data centers use less….but a individual data center uses far more water than a individual golf course

[U.S. golf courses collectively use about 2 billion to 2.08 billion gallons of water per day for turf irrigation. In contrast, all U.S. data centers combined consume an estimated 449 million gallons or less per day directly for cooling, meaning golf courses use roughly 4 to 5 times more water on a national scale.]

P.S.

I still think data centers are a good idea for rural counties with low tax rolls and in areas of the country with a lot of water.

It's worth it for rural Kentucky to build them.

Probably not worth it for the Texas Triangle area to do it

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You are usually pretty even-keel and on the right side of things Red.

You are always respectful and have great insight and input.

I think we should treat them as we would a nuclear power station. Keep them away from large population centers and important agricultural areas and do a ten year study seeing the impact they have on the surroundings.

It is completely asinine that they are building these things in large urban areas and placing them right next to residential communities. There is no reason for this multi-billion dollar, multi-national corporations to be doing this other than to be *******s and plunder the existing infrastructure the property owners in the area paid to set up.



Westlake is a ultra-affluent community. If they can come in and set-up data centers there, they can do it anywhere in the state of Texas. Of course the people doing dont live in Texas so why should they care. They own private islands in the Caribbean or Hawaii.

Between data centers and H1bs, Greg Abbott has well-earned his forced retirement in November. I've been voting against the guy for several elections now but will be voting for his Democrat opponent this fall. It will be the first time I have ever voted Democrat in my life... I feel like Greg Abbott is a greater threat to my pursuit of happiness than Gina Hinojosa. When we needed him to be strong during COVID or the Biden border invasion he did nothing. He is worthless... Texas politicians in general are some of the worst in the nation.

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You realize you are handing the reigns to one of the World's largest economies to a women who hasn't worked a real job a single day of her life. That's really smart. There are other ways to control Abbott...

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A golf course uses more water than a AI center. There's already 5000 AI data centers in USA. Elon DS. We need more government and less free enterprise., yea right. They can generate their own power. They generate a lot of $$$ and make life better for us. It's progress.

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How? How will data centers make lives better? There proximity makes people miserable and devalues their property and the AI they generate will be used by the government to push propaganda and attack our privacy.

It takes an entire bottle of water for AI to write a single email.... I suppose a golf course could theoretically use more water if its running its sprinklers non-stop and wasting water... but now we are in the same territory as two wrongs make a right.

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Golf course aren't using drinking water - more courses pull directly from rivers / ponds. So, why aren't DC made to put in place a retention pond and use that water...

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Great point!

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If Talarico wins (which he hopefully will & I say that as a conservative), it will send shock waves through the @GOP.

Same with the knucklehead DSA bozos.

Folks, to save America we must harshly punish parties who promote the worst of us. This is one place both D/R shld agree. https://t.co/hZmAaCebCa

— Brian Mistrot (@brian_mistrot) July 31, 2026

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Put enough of these committed socialist/marxists in power and you won't have an America to save.

Tragic to realize that our political parties are willing to put enemies to Republican government and morally corrupt people as their chosen candidates for any office at any level.

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Morally corrupt people? Surely, you jest. We're talking Paxton and Trump.

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Wait, do they advocate for the removal of children's genitals?

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I don't know of anyone advocating for the removal of children's genitals. I know one who let an adult who violated a child for years do 30 days in jail and another blocking the release of evidence of a large child trafficking ring. The second one? It is believed he violated children although there's only been one person come forward.

To answer your question? I don't think they advocate to remove children's genitalia.

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Way to not know the details of the case.

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You always defend child rape. Same song for the Southlake preacher.

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Nope. Wrong. Not defensible. But in this case, Paxton wasn't on trial for that. And by bringing up Adam Hoffman you are admitting you don't know the details of the case.

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If Talarico wins (which he hopefully will & I say that as a conservative), it will send shock waves through the @GOP.

Same with the knucklehead DSA bozos.

Folks, to save America we must harshly punish parties who promote the worst of us. This is one place both D/R shld agree. https://t.co/hZmAaCebCa

— Brian Mistrot (@brian_mistrot) July 31, 2026

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Put enough of these committed socialist/marxists in power and you won't have an America to save.

Tragic to realize that our political parties are willing to put enemies to Republican government and morally corrupt people as their chosen candidates for any office at any level.

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Morally corrupt people? Surely, you jest. We're talking Paxton and Trump.

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Wait, do they advocate for the removal of children's genitals?

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I don't know of anyone advocating for the removal of children's genitals. I know one who let an adult who violated a child for years do 30 days in jail and another blocking the release of evidence of a large child trafficking ring. The second one? It is believed he violated children although there's only been one person come forward.

To answer your question? I don't think they advocate to remove children's genitalia.

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Way to not know the details of the case.

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You always defend child rape. Same song for the Southlake preacher.

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Nope. Wrong. Not defensible. But in this case, Paxton wasn't on trial for that. And by bringing up Adam Hoffman you are admitting you don't know the details of the case.

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People who say stuff like that and then decline to elaborate further are typically just full of shyt. But I'm intrigued, so please share with the class if you think you know something relevant.

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If Talarico wins (which he hopefully will & I say that as a conservative), it will send shock waves through the @GOP.

Same with the knucklehead DSA bozos.

Folks, to save America we must harshly punish parties who promote the worst of us. This is one place both D/R shld agree. https://t.co/hZmAaCebCa

— Brian Mistrot (@brian_mistrot) July 31, 2026

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Put enough of these committed socialist/marxists in power and you won't have an America to save.

Tragic to realize that our political parties are willing to put enemies to Republican government and morally corrupt people as their chosen candidates for any office at any level.

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Morally corrupt people? Surely, you jest. We're talking Paxton and Trump.

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Wait, do they advocate for the removal of children's genitals?

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I don't know of anyone advocating for the removal of children's genitals. I know one who let an adult who violated a child for years do 30 days in jail and another blocking the release of evidence of a large child trafficking ring. The second one? It is believed he violated children although there's only been one person come forward.

To answer your question? I don't think they advocate to remove children's genitalia.

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Way to not know the details of the case.

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You always defend child rape. Same song for the Southlake preacher.

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Nope. Wrong. Not defensible. But in this case, Paxton wasn't on trial for that. And by bringing up Adam Hoffman you are admitting you don't know the details of the case.

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Not defensible but (sounds like you're offering a defense for child rape)

If scientists figured out I have cancer curing sperm that only works when delivered from the spigot and there was an eight year old who needed this cure. That lil mother****er gonna die. There is no justification. No butt.

The_barBEARian said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Most data centers use less water than 2 In-N-Out restaurants & less than golf courses

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I just fact checked you:

An 18 hole golf course uses up to 300,000 gallons of water a day.

A large hyperscale (they are all large) uses 1 million to 5 million gallons of water a day - the equivalent to a town of 10-50,000 residents.

And unlike golf course, they pollute the water too:

"Cooling systems release treated blowdown water containing chemical additives, heavy metals, and high mineral concentrations that can strain municipal treatment plants and threaten local aquatic ecosystems if not properly managed"

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I think you are correct (not sure about the pollution part because data centers recirculate the water and don't discharge it.
My first glance information was incorrect.
From Claude:
A typical US golf course uses around 312,000 gallons of water per day during the growing season, mostly for irrigating fairways and greens though courses in arid climates like Arizona or the Southern California desert can top a million gallons a day.
The water actually running through the restaurant's pipes dishwashing, ice, restrooms, food prep a quick-service restaurant like In-N-Out is estimated at 1,500 to 3,000 gallons per day. That's tiny compared to a data center or golf course a rounding error, basically.
A widely-circulated analysis from SemiAnalysis (Jan 2026) calculated something different: the full water footprint of growing the beef for an average In-N-Out's burgers, mostly from irrigating the alfalfa and corn cattle eat. That figure comes out to around 147 million gallons per year about 403,000 gallons/day. Almost all of that (around 95% of a burger's water footprint comes from irrigating cattle feed crops) never touches the restaurant itself; it's embedded upstream in the beef supply chain. NucleuswealthOur Imperial Valley
The punchline: on that "full footprint" basis, one average In-N-Out actually edges out an average golf course and roughly matches a typical data center's daily water use all from growing cow feed, not from anything happening in the kitchen. A single large hyperscale AI data center still dwarfs all three, but the comparison stops being the slam-dunk it looks like at first glance, because you're mixing direct operational water (data centers, golf courses) with embedded/virtual water (beef). If you compare like-for-like operational water only, restaurants are trivial next to data centers and golf courses; if you count full supply-chain footprint, beef changes the picture entirely.

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If Talarico wins (which he hopefully will & I say that as a conservative), it will send shock waves through the @GOP.

Same with the knucklehead DSA bozos.

Folks, to save America we must harshly punish parties who promote the worst of us. This is one place both D/R shld agree. https://t.co/hZmAaCebCa

— Brian Mistrot (@brian_mistrot) July 31, 2026

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Put enough of these committed socialist/marxists in power and you won't have an America to save.

Tragic to realize that our political parties are willing to put enemies to Republican government and morally corrupt people as their chosen candidates for any office at any level.

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Morally corrupt people? Surely, you jest. We're talking Paxton and Trump.

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Wait, do they advocate for the removal of children's genitals?

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I don't know of anyone advocating for the removal of children's genitals. I know one who let an adult who violated a child for years do 30 days in jail and another blocking the release of evidence of a large child trafficking ring. The second one? It is believed he violated children although there's only been one person come forward.

To answer your question? I don't think they advocate to remove children's genitalia.

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Way to not know the details of the case.

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You always defend child rape. Same song for the Southlake preacher.

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Nope. Wrong. Not defensible. But in this case, Paxton wasn't on trial for that. And by bringing up Adam Hoffman you are admitting you don't know the details of the case.

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Not defensible but (sounds like you're offering a defense for child rape)

If scientists figured out I have cancer curing sperm that only works when delivered from the spigot and there was an eight year old who needed this cure. That lil mother****er gonna die. There is no justification. No butt.

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BS. I have no defense for Hoffman or Morris. Paxton on the other hand couldn't put Hoffman in jail for 10 or 20 years with a hung jury.

So the AG'S office got a hung jury in a case with a slam dunk witness, before giving a sweetheart deal to a wealthy and connected guy...what part of that in your opinion makes any of this better somehow??

Either they sand-bagged on purpose it or they were incompetent, and to see people acting like that's somehow exonerating for the AG is pathetic. But, Paxton is a pretty pathetic guy, so it tracks.