Still wanting to know when that "Cohen flip" is going to nail Trump(?)

Junior? Cinque? 47? Jinx? Brooks?

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He's already flipped you dumb ass, LJ.. get back to the cubs farm.

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He's already flipped you dumb ass, LJ.. get back to the cubs farm.

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Didn't the House Intelligence Committee come out yesterday and proclaim there was no collusion between Trump and Russia or did I just dream that?

Big question is, will all these people that have been sent to prison in this farce get commuted sentences? That would only seem right at this point. Nobody should go to jail for merely associating with Donald Trump.

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He's already flipped you dumb ass, LJ.. get back to the cubs farm.

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Didn't the House Intelligence Committee come out yesterday and proclaim there was no collusion between Trump and Russia or did I just dream that?

Big question is, will all these people that have been sent to prison in this farce get commuted sentences? That would only seem right at this point. Nobody should go to jail for merely associating with Donald Trump.

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The Senate Intel Committee (via Committee Chairman Burr) says they found no direct evidence of "collusion", which the Dems on that committee dispute. They also never interviewed Manafort/Gates/Flynn to my knowledge, and that seems to be where Mueller thinks the fulcrum of this case is.

Manafort's lawyers already screwed up and revealed one of Mueller's cards to the public, by showing that he was knows Manafort was passing proprietary Trump Campaign polling data to a Russian spy, among a litany of other suspicious behavior. Manafort's emails to said Russian spy talking about using his (unpaid) position as Trump Campaign Manager to "get whole" and pay what he owes to Russian billionaire Oleg Deripaska are also very provocative circumstantial evidence, and so are Cohen's emails to Russian criminal Felix Sater where they talk about getting Putin on board and "engineering" a Trump Presidency.

The question hasn't been "did collusion happen?" for a while now, it's "how many people were involved?".

Time to dust off Stormy Daniels again while adding the claim of physical abuse .

HuMcK said:

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J.R. said:

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He's already flipped you dumb ass, LJ.. get back to the cubs farm.

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Didn't the House Intelligence Committee come out yesterday and proclaim there was no collusion between Trump and Russia or did I just dream that?

Big question is, will all these people that have been sent to prison in this farce get commuted sentences? That would only seem right at this point. Nobody should go to jail for merely associating with Donald Trump.

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The Senate Intel Committee (via Committee Chairman Burr) says they found no direct evidence of "collusion", which the Dems on that committee dispute.

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Where do the Dems say they dispute it?

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HuMcK said:

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J.R. said:

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He's already flipped you dumb ass, LJ.. get back to the cubs farm.

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Didn't the House Intelligence Committee come out yesterday and proclaim there was no collusion between Trump and Russia or did I just dream that?

Big question is, will all these people that have been sent to prison in this farce get commuted sentences? That would only seem right at this point. Nobody should go to jail for merely associating with Donald Trump.

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The Senate Intel Committee (via Committee Chairman Burr) says they found no direct evidence of "collusion", which the Dems on that committee dispute.

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Where do the Dems say they dispute it?

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I don't think any report was actually issued yet, the assertion that Senate Intel cleared Trump comes from an interview by Chairman Burr. The printed interview had quotes from Dem staffers pointing out the qualified "direct" language and saying they disagree with how Burr characterizes the evidence they do have. But again, Senate Intel was steered clear of the people Mueller seems to have identified as key participants in whatever conspiracy went down, so saying they found no evidence comes with an asterisk.

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He's already flipped you dumb ass, LJ.. get back to the cubs farm.

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Uh, genius, the question is when is the "flip" going to drive Trump from office that you so eloquently predicted was imminent all of those months ago(??). Don't look now, but he's still very much in office, growing in popularity and as has been posted the House Intel Committee announced Mueller's got zero after 2 years and ruining multiple lives. I know being constantly wrong hurts a lot, but as they say, "If the shoe fits......".

Anyway, good luck with your make believe O. & G. business and all...........

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He's already flipped you dumb ass, LJ.. get back to the cubs farm.

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Didn't the House Intelligence Committee come out yesterday and proclaim there was no collusion between Trump and Russia or did I just dream that?

Big question is, will all these people that have been sent to prison in this farce get commuted sentences? That would only seem right at this point. Nobody should go to jail for merely associating with Donald Trump.

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The Senate Intel Committee (via Committee Chairman Burr) says they found no direct evidence of "collusion", which the Dems on that committee dispute.

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Where do the Dems say they dispute it?

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I don't think any report was actually issued yet, the assertion that Senate Intel cleared Trump comes from an interview by Chairman Burr. The printed interview had quotes from Dem staffers pointing out the qualified "direct" language and saying they disagree with how Burr characterizes the evidence they do have. But again, Senate Intel was steered clear of the people Mueller seems to have identified as key participants in whatever conspiracy went down, so saying they found no evidence comes with an asterisk.

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So they're disputing the point that Trump is "cleared," not the fact that there's no direct evidence.

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Time to dust off Stormy Daniels again while adding the claim of physical abuse .

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Starr Special Prosecutor started out on a suspect land deal and ended up with perjury regarding sexual relations. Mueller Special Prosecutor was tasked with Russian election collusion, and will likely end up as a campaign finance violation regarding a pornstar/prostitute.

Exhibits A & B as to why special prosecutors are bad ideas when left unrestrained and with broad authority.

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They won't even end up with that. I'm actually surprised they haven't turned up more. You put any campaign under this much scrutiny, and you're bound to find something.

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He's already flipped you dumb ass, LJ.. get back to the cubs farm.

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. Nobody should go to jail for merely associating with Donald Trump.

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Nobody has.

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He's already flipped you dumb ass, LJ.. get back to the cubs farm.

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Uh, genius, the question is when is the "flip" going to drive Trump from office that you so eloquently predicted was imminent all of those months ago(??). Don't look now, but he's still very much in office, growing in popularity and as has been posted the House Intel Committee announced Mueller's got zero after 2 years and ruining multiple lives. I know being constantly wrong hurts a lot, but as they say, "If the shoe fits......".

Anyway, good luck with your make believe O. & G. business and all...........

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Show me where I said that Cohen's flip would drive your hero out of office? I simply said he was about to flight which was the original thread. He flipped when you said he wouldn't.

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He's already flipped you dumb ass, LJ.. get back to the cubs farm.

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. Nobody should go to jail for merely associating with Donald Trump.

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Nobody has.

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Oh yes, "Mr. Libertarian", they have. Would you like for me to give you the list?

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He's already flipped you dumb ass, LJ.. get back to the cubs farm.

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. Nobody should go to jail for merely associating with Donald Trump.

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Nobody has.

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They are victims of their association with him regardless of their actual transgressions.

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He's already flipped you dumb ass, LJ.. get back to the cubs farm.

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. Nobody should go to jail for merely associating with Donald Trump.

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Nobody has.

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Oh yes, "Mr. Libertarian", they have. Would you like for me to give you the list?

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Can't wait.

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He's already flipped you dumb ass, LJ.. get back to the cubs farm.

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. Nobody should go to jail for merely associating with Donald Trump.

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Nobody has.

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Oh yes, "Mr. Libertarian", they have. Would you like for me to give you the list?

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Can't wait.

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Figured.

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Somebody needs to occasionally change the channel away from MSNBC.

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how if the **** do you know what tv channel i watch, Little Johnny? Don't and never have watched it. Thanks, though. Get out more, pal.

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My mistake.

Let me re-phrase: Somebody needs to occasionally change the channel away from CNN.

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Multiple news outlets are speculating (the key word here) that Cohen is about to flip.

Somebody needs to occasionally change the channel away from Fox News. And get his head out of his ....

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You mean like the "multiple news outlets" that previously speculated things like.....


-No way that Trump wins - might as well just skip the election and coronate Hillary.

-Well, he really won't win for sure now, thanks to the Washington Post's "October surprise" release of a secretly recorded video that included Trump comments about grabbing female parts.

-Since Trump did win, get ready for the markets to crash and a worldwide depression that will make the 1930's look like a walk in the park. It's the end of our economic lives as we've known them.

-Don't worry, Trump won't make it more than 6 months or so as POTUS because he'll be impeached and thrown out of office thanks to "Russian collusion".

-We're all going to die in a nuclear holocaust with North Korea, thanks to Trump. Prepare for the end.

-General Flynn is flipping for sure. Goodbye Trump!

-Stormy Daniels is going to take Trump out for sure - we've really got him this time!

-Paul Manafort is really, really going to flip. Trump might as well pack his bags now!

-Did we tell you about those Russians? Russian collusion. Russian collusion. Russian collusion.


Uh, yeah.....I guess you're right - those "multiple news outlets" have all kinds of credibility......

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Hey LJ, me thinks Cohen flipped....you?

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Somebody needs to occasionally change the channel away from MSNBC.

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how if the **** do you know what tv channel i watch, Little Johnny? Don't and never have watched it. Thanks, though. Get out more, pal.

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My mistake.

Let me re-phrase: Somebody needs to occasionally change the channel away from CNN.

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Multiple news outlets are speculating (the key word here) that Cohen is about to flip.

Somebody needs to occasionally change the channel away from Fox News. And get his head out of his ....

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You mean like the "multiple news outlets" that previously speculated things like.....


-No way that Trump wins - might as well just skip the election and coronate Hillary.

-Well, he really won't win for sure now, thanks to the Washington Post's "October surprise" release of a secretly recorded video that included Trump comments about grabbing female parts.

-Since Trump did win, get ready for the markets to crash and a worldwide depression that will make the 1930's look like a walk in the park. It's the end of our economic lives as we've known them.

-Don't worry, Trump won't make it more than 6 months or so as POTUS because he'll be impeached and thrown out of office thanks to "Russian collusion".

-We're all going to die in a nuclear holocaust with North Korea, thanks to Trump. Prepare for the end.

-General Flynn is flipping for sure. Goodbye Trump!

-Stormy Daniels is going to take Trump out for sure - we've really got him this time!

-Paul Manafort is really, really going to flip. Trump might as well pack his bags now!

-Did we tell you about those Russians? Russian collusion. Russian collusion. Russian collusion.


Uh, yeah.....I guess you're right - those "multiple news outlets" have all kinds of credibility......

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Hey LJ, me thinks Cohen flipped....you?

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Hey JR...what specifically has Cohen used to flip on Trump?

well, he's gone taking a bullet for the president to detail what a crook, low life, grifter, swindler in front of Congress. He even brought singed check to pay him back for Stormy and loan doc requests that were falsified (crime btw). I'd say that is a flip, there, Doc. I'll give you credit for one thing. You are most definitely a true believer!

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well, he's gone taking a bullet for the president to detail what a crook, low life, grifter, swindler in front of Congress. He even brought singed check to pay him back for Stormy and loan doc requests that were falsified (crime btw). I'd say that is a flip, there, Doc. I'll give you credit for one thing. You are most definitely a true believer!

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Not a crime bud lol

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well, he's gone taking a bullet for the president to detail what a crook, low life, grifter, swindler in front of Congress. He even brought singed check to pay him back for Stormy and loan doc requests that were falsified (crime btw). I'd say that is a flip, there, Doc. I'll give you credit for one thing. You are most definitely a true believer!

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Not a crime bud lol

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Concealing the origins of money and structuring payments to avoid campaign finance disclosure requirements are felony crimes

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well, he's gone taking a bullet for the president to detail what a crook, low life, grifter, swindler in front of Congress. He even brought singed check to pay him back for Stormy and loan doc requests that were falsified (crime btw). I'd say that is a flip, there, Doc. I'll give you credit for one thing. You are most definitely a true believer!

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Not a crime bud lol

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Concealing the origins of money and structuring payments to avoid campaign finance disclosure requirements are crimes

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POTUS paid Cohen from his personal bank account. Sorry, if it was illegal, Democrats would have already moved on this subject.

Edit: I forgot about the painting of himself he paid for with charity funds, that's charity fraud and is also potentially a crime.

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Filing was amended.

You got nothing.

And you don't have collusion.

The whole point of this hearing is Cohen providing evidence that Trump conducted the scheme willfully and with full knowledge of it's illegality. The circumstance you describe where filings can be amended is in the case of mistake or undiscoverability, not after payments were knowingly concealed.

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The whole point of this hearing is Cohen providing evidence that Trump conducted the scheme willfully and with full knowledge of it's illegality. The circumstance you describe where filings can be amended is in the case of mistake or undiscoverability, not after payments were knowingly concealed.

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The DOJ accepted it.

The SDNY would have brought up charges against POTUS. They didn't.

I rest my case.

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Johnny Bear said:

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thingfubar said:

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Johnny Bear said:

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J.R. said:

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Johnny Bear said:

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Somebody needs to occasionally change the channel away from MSNBC.

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how if the **** do you know what tv channel i watch, Little Johnny? Don't and never have watched it. Thanks, though. Get out more, pal.

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My mistake.

Let me re-phrase: Somebody needs to occasionally change the channel away from CNN.

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Multiple news outlets are speculating (the key word here) that Cohen is about to flip.

Somebody needs to occasionally change the channel away from Fox News. And get his head out of his ....

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You mean like the "multiple news outlets" that previously speculated things like.....


-No way that Trump wins - might as well just skip the election and coronate Hillary.

-Well, he really won't win for sure now, thanks to the Washington Post's "October surprise" release of a secretly recorded video that included Trump comments about grabbing female parts.

-Since Trump did win, get ready for the markets to crash and a worldwide depression that will make the 1930's look like a walk in the park. It's the end of our economic lives as we've known them.

-Don't worry, Trump won't make it more than 6 months or so as POTUS because he'll be impeached and thrown out of office thanks to "Russian collusion".

-We're all going to die in a nuclear holocaust with North Korea, thanks to Trump. Prepare for the end.

-General Flynn is flipping for sure. Goodbye Trump!

-Stormy Daniels is going to take Trump out for sure - we've really got him this time!

-Paul Manafort is really, really going to flip. Trump might as well pack his bags now!

-Did we tell you about those Russians? Russian collusion. Russian collusion. Russian collusion.


Uh, yeah.....I guess you're right - those "multiple news outlets" have all kinds of credibility......

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Hey LJ, me thinks Cohen flipped....you?

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Hey Junior, me thinks Trump is currently the POTUS (involved in a serious and meaningful international negotiation at the moment, by the way), will still be the POTUS tomorrow, next week, next month, next year, and the 4 years after that when he's re-elected. This is nothing more that a side show that will in the end do nothing to his status as POTUS..........you??.............

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HuMcK said:

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The whole point of this hearing is Cohen providing evidence that Trump conducted the scheme willfully and with full knowledge of it's illegality. The circumstance you describe where filings can be amended is in the case of mistake or undiscoverability, not after payments were knowingly concealed.

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The DOJ accepted it.

The SDNY would have brought up charges against POTUS. They didn't.

I rest my case.

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Trump remains an unindicted co-conspirator because it is DOJ policy at this time to not indict a sitting President, he was however implicated in the same criminal scheme that Cohen plead guilty for. The designation Individual-1should ring a bell for that reason.

HuMcK said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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HuMcK said:

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The whole point of this hearing is Cohen providing evidence that Trump conducted the scheme willfully and with full knowledge of it's illegality. The circumstance you describe where filings can be amended is in the case of mistake or undiscoverability, not after payments were knowingly concealed.

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The DOJ accepted it.

The SDNY would have brought up charges against POTUS. They didn't.

I rest my case.

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Trump remains an unindicted co-conspirator because it is DOJ policy at this time to not indict a sitting President, he was however implicated in the same criminal scheme that Cohen plead guilty for. The designation Individual-1should ring a bell for that reason.

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This Count Eight transaction surrounds a payment to Stephanie Clifford (Stormy Daniels) of $130,000 for a nuisance claim. Who says it is a campaign contribution? The SDNY does, no-one else. Not even the FEC considers this a campaign contribution.

Count eight is a political charge/plea specifically included for the purpose of pulling Donald Trump into the SDNY Cohen case. There is no FEC violation here. *Note it is not the Federal Election Commission making the claim, only the SDNY prosecutors.

it is not a campaign contribution for a candidate to instruct his attorney to pay-off a nuisance claim to avoid any issues or embarrassment. It is not a campaign donation for Donald Trump to reimburse his attorney for paying the claim.

The issue of the Cohen payment being an "in kind" campaign contribution is the bottom line question which underpins the charge.

There is no FEC rule or law that says a candidate cannot pay-off an accuser to avoid further issues, a nuisance claim. Paying an accuser to avoid controversy or embarrassment, is no different than a candidate buying an American made car -with personal funds- to gain the beneficial public optics of not driving a foreign car. Neither expense example makes the payment an aspect of am "in kind" campaign contribution.
There is no connected claim that President Trump used campaign funds to repay his attorney for eliminating the nuisance claim. President Trump, a businessman, used his own business income to repay his attorney; an attorney on a monthly retainer.

The entire charge of Cohen making a campaign contribution, or campaign finance violation, is a manufactured claim, made only by the SDNY, for political benefit.

You guys are nuts.

And you Dems, you guys are as crazy as the Birthers were with Obama.

Just stop it already.

Geez, ever since Bill Clinton was in office, we spend all of our energy trying to oust the President from power.

Why?

What good is that going to do us?

Screw you ****ers who devote your lives to the religion of your damned politics.

You guys are hell bent on getting us all into a civil war one day.

That sucked the first time we tried it. Why don't we try moving on instead?

HuMcK said:

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The whole point of this hearing is Cohen providing evidence that Trump conducted the scheme willfully and with full knowledge of it's illegality. The circumstance you describe where filings can be amended is in the case of mistake or undiscoverability, not after payments were knowingly concealed.

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You are talking to the folks Trump was thinking of when he said, "I could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and they wouldn't care....they'd still love me"

They don't care that he is a criminal and a fraud....he owns libs so he is good with these guys

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HuMcK said:

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The whole point of this hearing is Cohen providing evidence that Trump conducted the scheme willfully and with full knowledge of it's illegality. The circumstance you describe where filings can be amended is in the case of mistake or undiscoverability, not after payments were knowingly concealed.

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You are talking to the folks Trump was thinking of when he said, "I could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and they wouldn't care....they'd still love me"

They don't care that he is a criminal and a fraud....he owns libs so he is good with these guys

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He's not a criminal or fraud.

You need him to be because it turns out millions of American's reject your political ideology and you can't accept it. You think winning makes you morally in the right.

Now your political heroes are relying on a liar and admitted to witness tampering.

Are you a US citizen?