Wangchung said:
quash said:
Wangchung said:
quash said:
Wangchung said:
You have no data that proves otherwise. Remaining illegal is the definition of non-assimilation.
Again you ate defining your way out of the problem. Mexican immigrants, legal or not, assimilate more quickly than previous national cohorts using intermarriage as a barometer.
I asked you for a different metric of assimilation and the best you can offer is "illegal is unassimilated."
Assimilation takes place over generations. That's why many of us had great grandparents who didn't speak English, and parents who can't speak their great grandparents's language.
The topic isn't legal immigrants. I get it, you can't get the results you want when only illegal alien's assimilation metric are measured, so you HAVE to include legal. You also have to change the definition of illegal alien to mean "Hispanics" in order to push your opinion that illegals assimilate faster than older groups of legal immigrants. Your theory is garbage.
I can't believe I have to say this out loud. Again.
Assimilation is generational. Most of the second generation and all of third are citizens. By that generation Hispanic migrants, even those descended from illegal migrants, are more assimilated than were cohorts from Ireland, Eastern Europe, Asia, etc.
You want to judge levels of cultural assimilation in the first generation? Fine. I ask, again, what metric would you use? And try something non-circular.
Assimilation is not solely generational, that is a ridiculous claim. Maybe that's what is tripping you up in this conversation, that you think assimilation can only happen through children and grandchildren. Learning the language is one metric of assimilation. Being a LEGAL citizen is a major metric, so no, illegal aliens are not assimilating if they are not following our laws. You've shown zero evidence that illegals assimilate faster than any other group. None. Zip. Nada.
Sigh. I have given you the evidence. You reject it because the cohort consists of citizens by the third generation. Actually, it is your definition, legality, that underpins the very point I'm making: the descendants of illegal migrants become citizens.
But the larger and more salient point is not about legality, but about cultural assimilation, which is where this started. And I gave you the data on that.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat