bear2be2 said:FLBear5630 said:bear2be2 said:FLBear5630 said:bear2be2 said:FLBear5630 said:bear2be2 said:FLBear5630 said:bear2be2 said:boognish_bear said:Chris Klieman made it sound like this is the one play he really wishes Kansas State could do over against Baylor.
— Kellis Robinett (@KellisRobinett) October 6, 2025
“We had a touchdown. They cut (Garrett) Oakley loose and we missed a blitz. We had somebody ID the blitz and we missed it. If we block that we have a touchdown.” pic.twitter.com/WI2qQiNz7k
The tight end was unguarded. It's a good thing we put some rare pressure on Johnson or that's an easy TD.
Couple of things there.
First, that is the nature of the blitz. Blitz has to get there before QB can find the open man. There will be an open man if you blitz. What was the old Phil Bennett quote on Blitzing? "When you Blitz all you know is someone's band is going to get to play..." Baylor got home on this play before the QB could execute.
Second, you can do this on every game. A block here or a cut there. Hell, you why not just say if our WR was just 2/100ths of a second faster? "If" is what losers say. Finish. That is the nature of football, he who Finishes the play, wins.
Third, execute and shut up. (Not you, the K-State coach).
They only had three players out on routes on that play, and we weren't rushing nine guys. Someone busted assignment, which happens way too often with our defense. If you watch, we have two guys go with the only wideout as he crosses the formation and no one takes the tight end, who had been killing us all game.
It was a really good, effective blitz, so no harm, no foul. But if it hadn't gotten home, that would have been an easy six.
We need our backend guys to have a better idea of what their assignments are and to do a better job of executing those assignments. That's been an issue all year. Hell, it's been an issue for several years now.
I don't think I agree with you after watching the replay several times.
The mesh cleared the zone for the TE, but he was not the target. The CB on the Right looked like he had deep outside third and the left side CB took away the slant. The TE cleared crossing close to the WR, looked very Leach-ish in design. However, the QB was looking to the other side of the field opposite the blitz. Look at the CB, he was reading the QB before he bailed deep.
I think that was the design. K-State had a nice play design, but the TE was not #1 or even #2. Looked like the slant was #1, which was taken away. The #2 was deep outside third, that QB did not look back to the TE at all. If the TE was the target, the QB would not turn his shoulders like he did. Bet next week he does...
No issues, just a different read. I think it was a a high risk/high reward call. I like the blitz. This is the type of conversation I love, would much rather do this than ***** about Dave...
I think two things can be true.
1. The running back and wide receiver are the first and second reads on that play, and Avery Johnson, as a pretty unpolished passer, is likely never making it to his third read -- even with a clean pocket.
And 2. It was not our defensive design to leave one of the three players out for routes on that play completely unguarded.
Those are the types of attention to detail things that cost you over time, and we've seen it cost our defense time and time again.
Good points, it looks to me that 11 was spying the QB. Which could have left one man uncovered. Blitz of the LB to that side AND a spy on QB leaves you with a numbers issue.
I thought it was a pretty well designed formation and play, the Blitz was a good call for that situation. And he did a good job getting there.
The corner to the boundary side (Thornton) is the one who looks lost to me. The field-side corner appears to be playing straight press man on the wideout, Bobby picks up the running back in the flat and Redding (I think) checks the fullback.
Given that the Thornton, who starts in almost a single high safety look, appears confused from the get-go as to what his responsibility even is on the play, I'm going to guess that he was supposed to stick with the tight end to keep him from getting a completely free release.
Would love to get someone that knew the play call and assignments. He looked like he was spying the QB, to the point of staying that the same depth as the QB. When the QB went back, he went back. When he went right, he came forward and went left. Classic spy technique.
Would love to hear from someone that actually knows the Staffs comments on this play.
Thomas is spying Johnson from the MLB spot.
As best I can tell, we rushed six, spied one and had four guys with coverage responsibilities. It was well-designed schematically. Someone just got lost. Fortunately, it didn't matter because the blitz worked and the guys picked up the first two reads.
But we have to many plays where 10 guys do the right things and one is doing his own thing. And it frequently does cost us.
Can't argue with that. : )
