That last claim is Old Brownshirt's biggest whopper yet.

Sam Lowry said:

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That last claim is Old Brownshirt's biggest whopper yet.

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If "Old Brownshirt" means Sam, yes it is.

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Congrats to all the progressive leftists out there. You caused another one of your enemies to commit suicide. You plans for personal destruction are working just as intended.

What the left has done with Jan 6th is just pure evil. People who are being charged with Trespassing and Disorderly Conduct, are being destroyed by the DOJ. When is the last time you heard of a simple misdemeanor charge taking more than a year to be brought to trial? When is the last time you heard a federal prosecutor pushing for hard jail time, for a first-time, non violent misdemeanor charge?

The left celebrates stories like this. They are pure evil.

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The party of self responsibility-GOP- should be aware that the 1/6 people chose to storm the Capitol. No one "caused" that Suicide. He was responsible for his own decisions.

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No quash, you merely posted opinions while ignoring the point.

I do not lie. I DO tick off hypocrites and SJW's, which may be why you are so bitter in these exchanges.

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Lol. You intentionally refuse to quote my post so that you don't have to confronted with facts.

Shame on you.

I am not obliged to report your opinions, quash. And I have already answered them, which fact of course you ducked.

As for shame? Anyone with a moral compass and a 3-digit IQ knows your side owns the shame in this matter.

9/11.

Unabomber.

DC sniper spree.

Oklahoma City bombing.

Las Vegas massacre.

None as urgent as 1/6 apparently. https://t.co/HPqaOZvMwm

— Sunny McSunnyface 🇺🇦 🌻 (@sunnyright) March 10, 2022

Cobretti said:

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9/11.

Unabomber.

DC sniper spree.

Oklahoma City bombing.

Las Vegas massacre.

None as urgent as 1/6 apparently. https://t.co/HPqaOZvMwm

— Sunny McSunnyface 🇺🇦 🌻 (@sunnyright) March 10, 2022

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We definitely dodged a bullet when the GOP rejected that moron for the SCOTUS.

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I am not obliged to report your opinions, quash. And I have already answered them, which fact of course you ducked.

As for shame? Anyone with a moral compass and a 3-digit IQ knows your side owns the shame in this matter.

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Did a criminal docket this week where the age averaged over 700 days. And there is nothing special about this court, or this county, or this state. Your whining about 14 months to get to trial is transparently partisan. And fallacious.

Not unlike your falsehood that was disproved by the fact of one defendant REQUESTING solitary confinement. Ignoring a fact doesn't transmute it into an opinion.

If you have a fact to report feel free. Pro tip: lies aren't facts.

And I don't have to taint you with a false "side": you are shaming yourself all alone. Congrats

quash: " lies aren't facts."

Sam thinks they are, and sorry quash, your opinion is not 'fact' no matter how many times you say so.

It's amusing in a sad way. You and your progressive buddies (the 'I'm a Libertarian' schtick is stale, by the way, no one believes you) throw out every piece of filth you can, hoping to control the narrative by bullying anyone with a moral compass.

But you aren't adding anyone to your side. Team 'It Was Sedition' is going down with the 'We Needed the Shutdown' and 'Firing People is Freedom' gambits.

I don't think you are fooling anyone who can manage critical thinking.

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quash: " lies aren't facts."

Sam thinks they are, and sorry quash, your opinion is not 'fact' no matter how many times you say so.

It's amusing in a sad way. You and your progressive buddies (the 'I'm a Libertarian' schtick is stale, by the way, no one believes you) throw out every piece of filth you can, hoping to control the narrative by bullying anyone with a moral compass.

But you aren't adding anyone to your side. Team 'It Was Sedition' is going down with the 'We Needed the Shutdown' and 'Firing People is Freedom' gambits.

I don't think you are fooling anyone who can manage critical thinking.

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Wow, you really don't like it when others use your own tactics against you.

As often happens these days, Sam, you accuse of what you yourself do.

And again, we all see it. Only the usual cronies support you.

Oldbear83 said:

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As often happens these days, Sam, you accuse of what you yourself do.

And again, we all see it. Only the usual cronies support you.

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If you're talking about Quash and Oso, that's not why they're exasperated with you. They're exasperated because they, more than most people, have given you the benefit of the doubt and tried to debate you in good faith only to be met with obfuscation and insult. Just ask them. Or deny and go your way oblivious as ever.

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Oldbear83 said:

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As often happens these days, Sam, you accuse of what you yourself do.

And again, we all see it. Only the usual cronies support you.

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If you're talking about Quash and Oso, that's not why they're exasperated with you. They're exasperated because they, more than most people, have given you the benefit of the doubt and tried to debate you in good faith only to be met with obfuscation and insult. Just ask them. Or deny and go your way oblivious as ever.

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As I said, you have your cronies. But it never occurs to you to ask yourself why so many who used to respect you, now find your screeds tiresome polemics built from pure dogma.

It certainly never occurs to you to ask yourself why, if I am truly as 'oblivious' as you claim, I get support from a wider range of members?

But go your way, you shall. Mayhap it will yet lead you home to Reason.

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Sam Lowry said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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As often happens these days, Sam, you accuse of what you yourself do.

And again, we all see it. Only the usual cronies support you.

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If you're talking about Quash and Oso, that's not why they're exasperated with you. They're exasperated because they, more than most people, have given you the benefit of the doubt and tried to debate you in good faith only to be met with obfuscation and insult. Just ask them. Or deny and go your way oblivious as ever.

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As I said, you have your cronies. But it never occurs to you to ask yourself why so many who used to respect you, now find your screeds tiresome polemics built from pure dogma.

It certainly never occurs to you to ask yourself why, if I am truly as 'oblivious' as you claim, I get support from a wider range of members?

But go your way, you shall. Mayhap it will yet lead you home to Reason.

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Two things. Sam has his own views. Team Red loves him when they align and lose their everloving **** when they don't.

Two, Sam is exactly right. I engaged you in good faith with facts and you refuse to engage in kind.

The 1/6 defendants are not being unduly delayed and at least one would rather be in solitary than bunk with other nuts from the tour. If I am lying it should be easy to prove. Prove, not duck. For a person of integrity anyway

Your loyal sycophancy to Sam will doubtless be rewarded, quash.

5 years for this guy who hit a cop in the head with a baseball bat at a "peaceful protest" in Seattle.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/seattle-man-beat-police-officer-030133078.html

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Your loyal sycophancy to Sam will doubtless be rewarded, quash.

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Dodge, duck, dive, dodge. You got skills, man.

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Your loyal sycophancy to Sam will doubtless be rewarded, quash.

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Dodge, duck, dive, dodge. You got skills, man.

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If you're still whining bc I am treating your opinions as opinions, you need to get a life, quash.

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Your loyal sycophancy to Sam will doubtless be rewarded, quash.

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Dodge, duck, dive, dodge. You got skills, man.

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If you're still whining bc I am treating your opinions as opinions, you need to get a life, quash.

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If you're still lying because my facts hurt your feels you need to find a safe space.

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Oldbear83 said:

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Your loyal sycophancy to Sam will doubtless be rewarded, quash.

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Dodge, duck, dive, dodge. You got skills, man.

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If you're still whining bc I am treating your opinions as opinions, you need to get a life, quash.

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If you're still lying because my facts hurt your feels you need to find a safe space.

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Someone needs to get you a dictionary for your birthday, quash.

Its pretty easy to tow the republican lone and bra when others agree. About 90% of this board votes exactly like you and claims the same group think. Not really worth bragging about.

A minority opinion is not automatically worth the read just for being contrary. Any post should be read on its own merit.

The problem is that too many people stop reading at the name of the poster. They assume a post from [x] must be worthless except to taunt.

By the way, I think the phrase you mean is 'toe the line'. Not to be picky, but idioms should be used properly, I think.

Oath Keepers lawyer Kellye SoRelle pleads guilty in Jan. 6 attack
The girlfriend of Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes was charged with conspiring to obstruct the Jan. 6 joint session of Congress.
A lawyer for the Oath Keepers who helped organize the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol with right-wing extremist groups pleaded guilty Wednesday to obstruction of justice and entering a restricted area.
Kellye SoRelle, 45, was indicted in 2022 on charges that she conspired with far-right militias to obstruct the joint session of Congress to confirm Joe Biden's victory in the 2020 presidential election, and that she persuaded others to withhold or destroy records. According to court documents, she served as a go-between for Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes and Henry "Enrique" Tarrio, a leader of the Proud Boys, on the eve of the Jan. 6 attack.
Unlike Rhodes and Tarrio, SoRelle was not charged with seditious conspiracy and will likely face a lesser penalty for her role in the riot.
SoRelle pleaded guilty to a felony count of obstruction of justice for tampering with documents and a misdemeanor charge of entering restricted Capitol grounds. In exchange, prosecutors dropped the two other counts in her indictment, including conspiring to obstruct an official proceeding. The Supreme Court ruled 6-3 in June that prosecutors could not broadly apply that charge to people who attempted to derail Congress's certification of the presidential election.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/08/21/oath-keepers-lawyer-kellye-sorelle-guilty-plea-jan-6/

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Oldbear83 said:

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No quash, you merely posted opinions while ignoring the point.

I do not lie. I DO tick off hypocrites and SJW's, which may be why you are so bitter in these exchanges.

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Lol. You intentionally refuse to quote my post so that you don't have to confronted with facts.

Shame on you.

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Sam Lowry said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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As often happens these days, Sam, you accuse of what you yourself do.

And again, we all see it. Only the usual cronies support you.

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If you're talking about Quash and Oso, that's not why they're exasperated with you. They're exasperated because they, more than most people, have given you the benefit of the doubt and tried to debate you in good faith only to be met with obfuscation and insult. Just ask them. Or deny and go your way oblivious as ever.

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Honest question Sam

In your opinion have the defendants of the Jan 6th riot been treated more harshly than the defendants of the weeks long Portland riots ?

Brad got 41 months in prison & a halfway house for touching the SAME sign that Ray Epps did on Jan 6, before it was pushed into police. Brad had no prior record.

Epps was given a plea deal with no jail time

Brad’s officially out of the halfway house today. Welcome home. https://t.co/reEmmnXcpI

— NOVA Campaigns (@NoVA_Campaigns) September 8, 2024

Just putting in my opinion; from the limited information I have on the subject, it appears that some are. However, the riots influence on the daily lives and direction of the nation were only nominally affected. Whereas those participating in the January 6th effort to forcibly prevent the peaceful transfer of power and reverse the results would have significantly affected the daily lives of the country and more.

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Fla. man sentenced to 5 years for attacking police, the longest Jan. 6 riot sentence yet
Robert S. Palmer watched and cheered rioters, then joined front of mob and hurled fire extinguisher, plank and long pole at police.
A man who watched and cheered the Capitol riot, then moved to the front of the mob and hurled a fire extinguisher, a plank and a long pole at officers, was sentenced Friday to more than five years in federal prison, the longest sentence given so far to someone charged in the Jan. 6 attack.
Robert S. Palmer, 54, of Largo, Fla., pleaded guilty in October to assaulting law enforcement officers with a dangerous weapon, and his original plea agreement called for a sentencing range of 46 to 57 months. But after his plea, and his entry into the D.C. jail, Palmer arranged to make an online fundraising plea in which he said he did "go on the defense and throw a fire extinguisher at the police" after being shot with rubber bullets and tear gas.
That was a lie, Palmer admitted Friday. He had thrown a fire extinguisher twice a large plank and then a four- to six-foot pole at police before he was struck with one rubber bullet. The lie indicated a failure to accept responsibility for his actions, prosecutors argued, and when U.S. District Judge Tanya S. Chutkan agreed, she increased his sentencing range to 63 to 78 months, ultimately imposing a 63-month term.
"Look behind you," Chutkan instructed Palmer in the courtroom. "Those are U.S. marshals. They ran from this courthouse. They put themselves in danger to protect the occupants of the Capitol. That's what they're sworn to do. They're the patriots. The people working in the Capitol that night, they are patriots. Doing what they get paid to do, they didn't know if they were going to come out of there alive that night."
Palmer said, "I'm really, really ashamed of what I did."
He said that while in jail he saw footage of himself on an MSNBC news program.
"I was horrified, absolutely devastated to see myself on there," Palmer said.
In a letter to the judge last month, he wrote, "I realize that we, meaning Trump supporters, were lied to by those that at the time had great power, meaning the sitting president as well as those acting on his behalf."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/12/17/palmer-sentenced-fire-extinguisher-jan-6/

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Why did you say "Most Peaceful Protesters" Nobody and I mean literally nobody has called Jan. 6th mostly peaceful.

That moniker was for the summer of love Rioters, looters, murderers, and criminals, by the media, trying to pretend that the riots and takeovers were mostly peaceful while cities and neighborhoods burned around them.

The Jan 6th incident had correctly been called rioting from the get go.

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Just putting in my opinion; from the limited information I have on the subject, it appears that some are. However, the riots influence on the daily lives and direction of the nation were only nominally affected. Whereas those participating in the January 6th effort to forcibly prevent the peaceful transfer of power and reverse the results would have significantly affected the daily lives of the country and more.

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Please

1. The BLM riots were essentially the armed wing of a Leftist cultural revolution.

The long term effects were the pulling back of policing in large areas of country (don't want to be arresting black people) this of course has led to a huge spike in deaths.

Thousands of statues, streets, buildings, and places removed/renamed/changed since the riots.

State/Federal/local governments going all in on DEI as well as Academia, Big business, and most of the rest of our museums and cultural institutions.

It's a movement that has had large scale effects…that we are still living with.

2. Jan. 6th was a 2hr riot that has NO long term effects on the Federal Government or U.S. society at all

I agree with some of #1.
No need to waste time on #2. I will let history answer that one.

Political reeducation of prisoners you say…

WATCH: Treniss Evans reveals the names of some of the "reeducation courses" provided for J6 prisoners in the DC Gulag pic.twitter.com/6ch36rHDK1

— Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene🇺🇸 (@RepMTG) September 9, 2024

KaiBear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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As often happens these days, Sam, you accuse of what you yourself do.

And again, we all see it. Only the usual cronies support you.

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If you're talking about Quash and Oso, that's not why they're exasperated with you. They're exasperated because they, more than most people, have given you the benefit of the doubt and tried to debate you in good faith only to be met with obfuscation and insult. Just ask them. Or deny and go your way oblivious as ever.

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Honest question Sam

In your opinion have the defendants of the Jan 6th riot been treated more harshly than the defendants of the weeks long Portland riots ?

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Probably. Portland is in a notoriously left-wing jurisdiction. I don't think you can generalize that across the whole country.

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Just putting in my opinion; from the limited information I have on the subject, it appears that some are. However, the riots influence on the daily lives and direction of the nation were only nominally affected. Whereas those participating in the January 6th effort to forcibly prevent the peaceful transfer of power and reverse the results would have significantly affected the daily lives of the country and more.

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Don't agree with your assessment, but I can understand how you reached it.