The Rashomon effect. People remember the same events differently because they perceive them differently.TexasScientist said:Lay the text of the Gospels out side by side and go through the stories sequentially. They don't agree from the events leading up to, through the crucifixion, and after. You have to admit they are different and accept that they are different to be intellectually honest. You can rationalize it however you want, by saying they each were written at different times, by different authors, with a different message. But you have to admit they are not the same. They vary from each other. They all can't be right. I say they are unbelievable because there is no independent evidence to support the claims, and some of the claims require belief in the supernatural events from which there is no historical nor scientific verifiable evidence of support.fadskier said:How are they conflicting and unbelievable?TexasScientist said:I'm saying the crucifixion stories are conflicting, and they are unbelievable. They were written years later by unknown authors taken from retold and embellished oral stories, in order to bolster and promote the message of the author.fadskier said:I'm confused. What exactly are you saying? Respectfully.TexasScientist said:The only thing appearing out of thin air is this story. If Jesus got up and walked out of a tomb, then he was resurrected, and if he was walking around with holes in him for Thomas et al to see, then that was his resurrected state. Clearly over time, the stories became more and more miraculous in order to sell the overall message and bolster the disillusioned.LIB,MR BEARS said:TexasScientist said:So, he was in a decaying transcendental zombie state with holes either in Jerusalem or Galilee, depending upon who tells the story?BusyTarpDuster2017 said:
Yes, new. His old one was perishable. And I'm pretty sure appearing and disappearing in thin air was a new feature. Also, remember he wasn't in his glorified state yet.
You can try to understand or, you can try to be obstinate. Either way, is speaks volumes about you.
The Bible contains a lot of truth. But reading it--especially the New Testament--as a completely reliable, inerrant history of the life of Christ--doesn't work.