Oldbear83 said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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I have the same confidence in the Justice System under Biden, as I do in your ability to care about our American Ideals, TS.

Which is to say, none whatsoever.

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Yeah, because you have no regard for impartial, fair minded, and evenhandedness in your idea of justice.

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Nothing done by the Biden Administration or its subordinate allies has anything to do with being impartial, fair-minded, or even handedness.

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I was referring to you, but I don't think much of Biden either, so we can agree on that I guess.

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KaiBear said:

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IMO this is an intensional effort to disable or kill Trump.

He is an old, out of shape, fat guy and the stress of all these garbage charges simply has to be taking a toll.

Would not be surprised if he has a stroke or heart attack.

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Trump is like the frickin' Energizer Bunny. I think he thrives on the attacks and the drama.

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Dealing with the realities of the COVID epidemic reportedly took a lot of the bravado out of the old egomaniac.

Honestly I am surprised Trump even wants the presidency again.

But don't kid yourself; Dems know exactly what they are inflicting on the fat man.

Fully expect either Biden or Trump to be permanently incapacitated by the end of 2024.

Maybe both .

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KaiBear said:

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IMO this is an intensional effort to disable or kill Trump.

He is an old, out of shape, fat guy and the stress of all these garbage charges simply has to be taking a toll.

Would not be surprised if he has a stroke or heart attack.

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Trump is like the frickin' Energizer Bunny. I think he thrives on the attacks and the drama.

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Dealing with the realities of the COVID epidemic reportedly took a lot of the bravado out of the old egomaniac.

Honestly I am surprised Trump even wants the presidency again.

But don't kid yourself; Dems know exactly what they are inflicting on the fat man.

Fully expect either Biden or Trump to be permanently incapacitated by the end of 2024.

Maybe both .

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At this point, my biggest hope is that the American people can move on from both men. Unfortunately, people get the government they deserve. And we don't deserve much.

TexasScientist said:

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TexasScientist said:

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In 1923, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, was imprisoned with a sentence of five years. In prison he wrote his autobiography. After his early release in 1924, backed by conservative leaders, we know the rest of the story. In 2020, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, …. to be determined.

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Oh, please. You still lose the argument by referring to Hitler even if you don't use the name "Hitler."

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There are some parallels, but Biden is much more like Mussolini.

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FIFY.

An October 2020 Reuters article highlighted the possibility of "competing slates of electors" being sent to Congress. There was zero indication this could constitute "fraud" or "conspiracy." It was understood as political activity -- which has now been retroactively criminalized pic.twitter.com/JT8lLLCAkW

— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) August 5, 2023

Redbrickbear said:

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An October 2020 Reuters article highlighted the possibility of "competing slates of electors" being sent to Congress. There was zero indication this could constitute "fraud" or "conspiracy." It was understood as political activity -- which has now been retroactively criminalized pic.twitter.com/JT8lLLCAkW

— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) August 5, 2023

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But Michigan Republicans sent a slate certified by neither the governor nor the legislature

Harrison Bergeron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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TexasScientist said:

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In 1923, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, was imprisoned with a sentence of five years. In prison he wrote his autobiography. After his early release in 1924, backed by conservative leaders, we know the rest of the story. In 2020, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, …. to be determined.

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Oh, please. You still lose the argument by referring to Hitler even if you don't use the name "Hitler."

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There are some parallels, but Biden is much more like Mussolini.

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FIFY.

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As bad as he is, he's not a malignant narcissist like Trump and Mussolini.

TexasScientist said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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TexasScientist said:

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In 1923, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, was imprisoned with a sentence of five years. In prison he wrote his autobiography. After his early release in 1924, backed by conservative leaders, we know the rest of the story. In 2020, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, …. to be determined.

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Oh, please. You still lose the argument by referring to Hitler even if you don't use the name "Hitler."

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There are some parallels, but Biden is much more like Mussolini.

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FIFY.

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As bad as he is, he's not a malignant narcissist like Trump and Mussolini.

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Joe Biden is a bribe-taking racist who sniffs women's hair, especially children, whose idea of 'Justice' includes weaponizing federal agencies.


Zero defense for that unless you have abandoned all moral precepts.

TexasScientist said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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TexasScientist said:

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In 1923, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, was imprisoned with a sentence of five years. In prison he wrote his autobiography. After his early release in 1924, backed by conservative leaders, we know the rest of the story. In 2020, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, …. to be determined.

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Oh, please. You still lose the argument by referring to Hitler even if you don't use the name "Hitler."

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There are some parallels, but Biden is much more like Mussolini.

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FIFY.

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As bad as he is, he's not a malignant narcissist like Trump and Mussolini.

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Incorrect. Biden is actually the closest to a fascist president we've ever had. He's weaponized public and private resources against political opponents in ways that would make National Socialists blush.

Look at the patterns:

Bolsonaro banned from running for President

Imran Khan banned from running for President

Trump ban almost surely coming in 2024

This is new democracy. It’s just a shit-stink military intelligence pig with a silk cloth of media cover-up thrown on top. https://t.co/1fcLyiaB9a

— Mike Benz (@MikeBenzCyber) August 5, 2023

TexasScientist said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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TexasScientist said:

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In 1923, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, was imprisoned with a sentence of five years. In prison he wrote his autobiography. After his early release in 1924, backed by conservative leaders, we know the rest of the story. In 2020, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, …. to be determined.

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Oh, please. You still lose the argument by referring to Hitler even if you don't use the name "Hitler."

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There are some parallels, but Biden is much more like Mussolini.

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FIFY.

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As bad as he is, he's not a malignant narcissist like Trump and Mussolini.

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Have you reviewed Biden's political record ?

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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IMO this is an intensional effort to disable or kill Trump.

He is an old, out of shape, fat guy and the stress of all these garbage charges simply has to be taking a toll.

Would not be surprised if he has a stroke or heart attack.

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Trump is like the frickin' Energizer Bunny. I think he thrives on the attacks and the drama.

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Dealing with the realities of the COVID epidemic reportedly took a lot of the bravado out of the old egomaniac.

Honestly I am surprised Trump even wants the presidency again.

But don't kid yourself; Dems know exactly what they are inflicting on the fat man.

Fully expect either Biden or Trump to be permanently incapacitated by the end of 2024.

Maybe both .

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At this point, my biggest hope is that the American people can move on from both men. Unfortunately, people get the government they deserve. And we don't deserve much.

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Can't disagree with you.

Oldbear83 said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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TexasScientist said:

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In 1923, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, was imprisoned with a sentence of five years. In prison he wrote his autobiography. After his early release in 1924, backed by conservative leaders, we know the rest of the story. In 2020, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, …. to be determined.

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Oh, please. You still lose the argument by referring to Hitler even if you don't use the name "Hitler."

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There are some parallels, but Biden is much more like Mussolini.

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FIFY.

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As bad as he is, he's not a malignant narcissist like Trump and Mussolini.

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Joe Biden is a bribe-taking racist who sniffs women's hair, especially children, whose idea of 'Justice' includes weaponizing federal agencies.


Zero defense for that unless you have abandoned all moral precepts.

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I don't defend Biden. I don't like him. Some of what you say applies equally if not more so to Trump. Trump tried to weaponize the DOJ. Barr and the WH counsel have confirmed that. Trump grabs women by … and he's been found responsible of sexual abuse, fetishizes his daughter, cheats on his wife with porn stars, cheated and scammed people etc. etc.

This country needs a different choice. Will Hurd, Christie, Manchin.

TexasScientist said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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TexasScientist said:

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In 1923, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, was imprisoned with a sentence of five years. In prison he wrote his autobiography. After his early release in 1924, backed by conservative leaders, we know the rest of the story. In 2020, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, …. to be determined.

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Oh, please. You still lose the argument by referring to Hitler even if you don't use the name "Hitler."

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There are some parallels, but Biden is much more like Mussolini.

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FIFY.

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As bad as he is, he's not a malignant narcissist like Trump and Mussolini.

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Joe Biden is a bribe-taking racist who sniffs women's hair, especially children, whose idea of 'Justice' includes weaponizing federal agencies.


Zero defense for that unless you have abandoned all moral precepts.

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I don't defend Biden. I don't like him. Some of what you say applies equally if not more so to Trump. Trump tried to weaponize the DOJ. Barr and the WH counsel have confirmed that. Trump grabs women by … and he's been found responsible of sexual abuse, fetishizes his daughter, cheats on his wife with porn stars, cheated and scammed people etc. etc.

This country needs a different choice. Will Hurd, Christie, Manchin.

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Why is it if you don't like Trump for his rhetoric and actions it automatically puts you as a Biden-apologist. One has nothing to do with the other.

Sorry, Trump should be prosecuted for his actions, if he is found non guilty so be it but he needs to be held accountable for the post-2020 election actions he and his surrogates did.

As for Biden and Hillary, I blame those that were in power and DID NOT prosecute. It is on them. That is why I don't go for this two tier legal system. Sessions had cause to prosecute Hillary and didn't. Now Trump complains that Hillary got off?? He let her off. I blame him for that and the VP Biden Ukrainian/Hunter. There was no indictment under Trump, why??? Because he is just as much of an inside the swamp person as the Biden's, Clinton's Obama's or all the RINOs the MAGAs complain about.

Biden is just as bad, if not worse. Neither should be supported.

Give me Halley, Christie, DeSantis or some other ex-Governor. No more DC insiders, don't let him fool you Trump is as much of an insider as the rest, just look at the financial deals he did with Govt assistance.

KaiBear said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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TexasScientist said:

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In 1923, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, was imprisoned with a sentence of five years. In prison he wrote his autobiography. After his early release in 1924, backed by conservative leaders, we know the rest of the story. In 2020, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, …. to be determined.

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Oh, please. You still lose the argument by referring to Hitler even if you don't use the name "Hitler."

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There are some parallels, but Biden is much more like Mussolini.

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FIFY.

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As bad as he is, he's not a malignant narcissist like Trump and Mussolini.

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Have you reviewed Biden's political record ?

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Yeah and I don't like it. Have you reviewed Trump's private and political record? It's even worse than Biden (I'm not for, nor will I vote for Biden, or Trump).

FLBear5630 said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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TexasScientist said:

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In 1923, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, was imprisoned with a sentence of five years. In prison he wrote his autobiography. After his early release in 1924, backed by conservative leaders, we know the rest of the story. In 2020, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, …. to be determined.

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Oh, please. You still lose the argument by referring to Hitler even if you don't use the name "Hitler."

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There are some parallels, but Biden is much more like Mussolini.

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FIFY.

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As bad as he is, he's not a malignant narcissist like Trump and Mussolini.

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Joe Biden is a bribe-taking racist who sniffs women's hair, especially children, whose idea of 'Justice' includes weaponizing federal agencies.


Zero defense for that unless you have abandoned all moral precepts.

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I don't defend Biden. I don't like him. Some of what you say applies equally if not more so to Trump. Trump tried to weaponize the DOJ. Barr and the WH counsel have confirmed that. Trump grabs women by … and he's been found responsible of sexual abuse, fetishizes his daughter, cheats on his wife with porn stars, cheated and scammed people etc. etc.

This country needs a different choice. Will Hurd, Christie, Manchin.

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Why is it if you don't like Trump for his rhetoric and actions it automatically puts you as a Biden-apologist. One has nothing to do with the other.

Sorry, Trump should be prosecuted for his actions, if he is found non guilty so be it but he needs to be held accountable for the post-2020 election actions he and his surrogates did.

As for Biden and Hillary, I blame those that were in power and DID NOT prosecute. It is on them. That is why I don't go for this two tier legal system. Sessions had cause to prosecute Hillary and didn't. Now Trump complains that Hillary got off?? He let her off. I blame him for that and the VP Biden Ukrainian/Hunter. There was no indictment under Trump, why??? Because he is just as much of an inside the swamp person as the Biden's, Clinton's Obama's or all the RINOs the MAGAs complain about.

Biden is just as bad, if not worse. Neither should be supported.

Give me Halley, Christie, DeSantis or some other ex-Governor. No more DC insiders, don't let him fool you Trump is as much of an insider as the rest, just look at the financial deals he did with Govt assistance.

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I completely agree. Neither should be supported. And you're right, Trump let Hillary get away with it. He had four years to build a case that could be successfully prosecuted, and his people didn't or couldn't.

TexasScientist said:

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KaiBear said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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TexasScientist said:

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In 1923, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, was imprisoned with a sentence of five years. In prison he wrote his autobiography. After his early release in 1924, backed by conservative leaders, we know the rest of the story. In 2020, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, …. to be determined.

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Oh, please. You still lose the argument by referring to Hitler even if you don't use the name "Hitler."

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There are some parallels, but Biden is much more like Mussolini.

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FIFY.

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As bad as he is, he's not a malignant narcissist like Trump and Mussolini.

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Have you reviewed Biden's political record ?

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Yeah and I don't like it. Have you reviewed Trump's private and political record? It's even worse than Biden (I'm not for, nor will I vote for Biden, or Trump).

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I approve this message

For those that still support Donald Trump, I quote Mike Penske, "Read the Constitution."

TS: "I don't defend Biden."

That part I agree with. There is no way to defend what Biden has done. But you certainly excuse him, and try to lynch Trump just because you hate him.

Trump belongs in private life. Biden belongs in prison. Anyone saying otherwise is a fool or a part of the lynch mob.

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For those that still support Donald Trump, I quote Mike Penske, "Read the Constitution."

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Vice versa. That First Amendment makes the charges against Trump nothing but political persecution.

You don't have to vote for him, just don't frame him because you hate him.

TexasScientist said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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TexasScientist said:

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In 1923, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, was imprisoned with a sentence of five years. In prison he wrote his autobiography. After his early release in 1924, backed by conservative leaders, we know the rest of the story. In 2020, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, …. to be determined.

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Oh, please. You still lose the argument by referring to Hitler even if you don't use the name "Hitler."

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There are some parallels, but Biden is much more like Mussolini.

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FIFY.

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As bad as he is, he's not a malignant narcissist like Trump and Mussolini.

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NSIS.

Biden is the most fascist president we have elected.

I want Trump gone but of course this is happening.

(D)oJ https://t.co/X3hQac5fj3

— Richard Grenell (@RichardGrenell) August 6, 2023

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For those that still support Donald Trump, I quote Mike Penske, "Read the Constitution."

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I cannot get past the First Amendment. The DOJ cannot get that far.

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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Guy Noir said:

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For those that still support Donald Trump, I quote Mike Penske, "Read the Constitution."

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I cannot get past the First Amendment. The DOJ cannot get that far.

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Regressives are the Party of Hate: 1) freedom 2) diversity 3) political opponents

There are arguments against the indictment, and I oppose it, but 1st Amendment isn't one of them. This is plain nutty.

Since some people on the right won't be honest: Regardless of the exact elements of the criminal charge, what Trump & crew attempted to do on Jan 6th was insane. The lying and conspiracies were the least of it. Read the Eastman memo.

Under their plan A, all Dems have to do is…

— AG (@AGHamilton29) August 6, 2023

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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Guy Noir said:

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For those that still support Donald Trump, I quote Mike Penske, "Read the Constitution."

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I cannot get past the First Amendment. The DOJ cannot get that far.

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I suggest you read all of the Constitution.

Guy Noir said:

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Guy Noir said:

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For those that still support Donald Trump, I quote Mike Penske, "Read the Constitution."

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I cannot get past the First Amendment. The DOJ cannot get that far.

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I suggest you read all of the Constitution.

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But it is the First Amendment that is implicated.

TexasScientist said:

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KaiBear said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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TexasScientist said:

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In 1923, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, was imprisoned with a sentence of five years. In prison he wrote his autobiography. After his early release in 1924, backed by conservative leaders, we know the rest of the story. In 2020, a malignant narcissist attempted to seize governmental power in a failed coup, …. to be determined.

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Oh, please. You still lose the argument by referring to Hitler even if you don't use the name "Hitler."

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There are some parallels, but Biden is much more like Mussolini.

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FIFY.

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As bad as he is, he's not a malignant narcissist like Trump and Mussolini.

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Have you reviewed Biden's political record ?

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Yeah and I don't like it. Have you reviewed Trump's private and political record? It's even worse than Biden (I'm not for, nor will I vote for Biden, or Trump).

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I will not vote for either old fart.

But Biden's personal and public record is worse than Trump's.

Guy Noir said:

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Guy Noir said:

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For those that still support Donald Trump, I quote Mike Penske, "Read the Constitution."

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I cannot get past the First Amendment. The DOJ cannot get that far.

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I suggest you read all of the Constitution.

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Did. The charges remain malicious and unconstitutional/

Sucks for you, but meh ...

Oldbear83 said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Guy Noir said:

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For those that still support Donald Trump, I quote Mike Penske, "Read the Constitution."

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I cannot get past the First Amendment. The DOJ cannot get that far.

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I suggest you read all of the Constitution.

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Did. The charges remain malicious and unconstitutional/

Sucks for you, but meh ...

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So if a person walks into a bank and asks for all the money then they should not be charged with bank robbery because it is their first amendment right to say such a thing? That is just plain silly.

Trump asked Mike Pense to overturn the election results. He is guilty of attempting to defraud the citizens of the USA. That's the kind of things dictators do to stay in power.

Guy Noir said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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Guy Noir said:

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For those that still support Donald Trump, I quote Mike Penske, "Read the Constitution."

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I cannot get past the First Amendment. The DOJ cannot get that far.

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I suggest you read all of the Constitution.

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Did. The charges remain malicious and unconstitutional/

Sucks for you, but meh ...

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So if a person walks into a bank and asks for all the money then they should not be charged with bank robbery because it is their first amendment right to say such a thing? That is just plain silly.

Trump asked Mike Pense to overturn the election results. He is guilty of attempting to defraud the citizens of the USA. That's the kind of things dictators do to stay in power.

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Yeah, no. That is not defrauding the United States.

Last year two Boston University professors published a law review article arguing the Vice President is the sole federal officer with discretion under the 12th Amendment to determine the validity of electoral vote submissions. Presumably they risk being charged with felonies now pic.twitter.com/Z04gKw6MYe

— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) August 6, 2023

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Redbrickbear said:

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Last year two Boston University professors published a law review article arguing the Vice President is the sole federal officer with discretion under the 12th Amendment to determine the validity of electoral vote submissions. Presumably they risk being charged with felonies now pic.twitter.com/Z04gKw6MYe

— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) August 6, 2023

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Only problem is the States send in official electors. The only ambiguity was created by Trump getting others to submit