Rarely are things black and white and this issue is multifaceted.

- Private equity buying up homes in large quantities is a problem.

- Restrictive zoning in many areas is a problem.

- insurance has skyrocketed. Massive problem in hurricane and fire zones. Problem for building.

- property taxes keep rising as home values keep rising which is an added factor in a home purchase and build.

- people marrying later results in the lack of dual incomes earlier on to buy a house.

- people refusing to move. Can't blame young people who want to live in a city with more career opportunities and mating options, but the housing stock is expensive in the big metros.

- build costs are elevated when energy prices are higher, inflation is up, and taxes are up. This can stop building or make it harder for young people to buy.

- lower wages make saving difficult. Young people still want to live a life. Boomers scoff at fancy coffees and brunches but ignore that a movie ticket was a quarter in their day and not $20 (not including popcorn or dinner) so taking a girl on date today is quite expensive.

- definitely a sub segment of young men blowing their savings on sports betting, day trading, and crypto.

- older generations are not moving as much either. Lack of product going on the market also plays a role.

- Time. Owning a home takes a lot of time. Young folks busting their tails in consulting, IB, tech, or wherever can probably afford a house but can't invest the time or they live in NYC, Chicago, San Francisco, etc and will worry about buying a house when they hit some milestone and move to a sunbelt or western state to settle down.

- life is short. Millennials, especially, love experiences. Buy a house and eat ramen and peanut butter for a few years or while in the prime of your life physically take those bucket list trips to Spain, Japan, Patagonia, etc. Be front row for your favorite band. Thru hike the AT.

- throw in less people dating and sleeping together and you have a generation of single people. Social media doesn't help.

The median family income in the U.S. has gone from $10K in 1971 to $106k today, an increase of 10x.

However, the median cost of a house has gone from $25K to $445k, an increase of 17x.

And the median cost of a car has gone from $3.6K to $50k, an increase of 14x.

The median… https://t.co/gxjONW3XvR

— Andrew Lokenauth | TheFinanceNewsletter.com (@FluentInFinance) December 7, 2025

No ***** Because houses have gotten bigger and both are much more feature full.

Again, no one is building base model housing or cars because they simply don't sell.

Permits, water , labor , land , and building materials have all gone up dramatically.

This is not hard to comprehend.

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No ***** Because houses have gotten bigger and both are much more feature full.

Again, no one is building base model housing or cars because they simply don't sell.

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There were a ton of development abuses that occurred in 60's and 70's. Developers built as cheaply as possible and left messes around the Nation for buyers and ultimately the Government to clean up driving taxes and permitting costs up. That plays into that as well.

Today, Developers aee making a fortune and leaving Counties floating on a layer of **** with septic and cheap package plants. 1000 unit subdivisions with little road improvements to handle the demand. Top soil scraped and sold leaving no soil worth a **** to live on. Burying construction debris on parcels I can go on.

Work in permitting or code enforcement some time to see the low lives who build this stuff. But they make theirs amd then condemn to poor schmuck who buys it for poor decisions. You will see how costs get driven up... Buyer beware...

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Rarely are things black and white and this issue is multifaceted.

- Private equity buying up homes in large quantities is a problem.

- Restrictive zoning in many areas is a problem.

- insurance has skyrocketed. Massive problem in hurricane and fire zones. Problem for building.

- property taxes keep rising as home values keep rising which is an added factor in a home purchase and build.

- people marrying later results in the lack of dual incomes earlier on to buy a house.

- people refusing to move. Can't blame young people who want to live in a city with more career opportunities and mating options, but the housing stock is expensive in the big metros.

- build costs are elevated when energy prices are higher, inflation is up, and taxes are up. This can stop building or make it harder for young people to buy.

- lower wages make saving difficult. Young people still want to live a life. Boomers scoff at fancy coffees and brunches but ignore that a movie ticket was a quarter in their day and not $20 (not including popcorn or dinner) so taking a girl on date today is quite expensive.

- definitely a sub segment of young men blowing their savings on sports betting, day trading, and crypto.

- older generations are not moving as much either. Lack of product going on the market also plays a role.

- Time. Owning a home takes a lot of time. Young folks busting their tails in consulting, IB, tech, or wherever can probably afford a house but can't invest the time or they live in NYC, Chicago, San Francisco, etc and will worry about buying a house when they hit some milestone and move to a sunbelt or western state to settle down.

- life is short. Millennials, especially, love experiences. Buy a house and eat ramen and peanut butter for a few years or while in the prime of your life physically take those bucket list trips to Spain, Japan, Patagonia, etc. Be front row for your favorite band. Thru hike the AT.

- throw in less people dating and sleeping together and you have a generation of single people. Social media doesn't help.

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Movie tickets were a quarter? How old do you think Boomers are?

A movie ticket at Waco Hall was fifty cents. About five times higher at the Ivy Twin unless you were going to a midnight showing of Rocky Horror

A quarter sounds better. The point still stands. It's more expensive for my little cousin to take a girl out on a date. He's a good kid and will take a girl on a nice date but other dudes his age? Lot easier to just play video games. Cheaper and no rejection.

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I am far from a LWNJ and not the one who started this thread but have agreed with parts of the facts shown here about how homes have become out of reasonable price range for many Americans.

Part of the problem is that when talking real estate there is not a set price that can fit the whole country as a "reasonable" price. I pointed that out but he didn't like that answer. He wanted a set price point for the whole country. But that isn't how real estate works.

The facts show that the average age for first time home buyers has gone up. That should be a concern. Same for several of the other facts that have been presented in this thread.

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But what I think is missing is that there is affordable housing - there is just not affordable housing that privileged, young white Gen Z buyers feel is worthy of them. It is not that housing is not affordable - it is the house that the privileged Gen Z buyer feels entitled to is not affordable. There is a difference.

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If what you said were true then there would be a large portion of the population buying houses. You know the other generations and the non whites.

And yet that isn't happening.

There is a large percentage of the millennial, and the end of gen x that don't own, have never owned or bought much later in life and it wasn't for the reasons you gave above.

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Sorry. Maybe you did not read what I typed.

They are choosing to not buy houses that they feel is beneath their sense of entitlement

That is why they're not buying houses.

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Lol. That is not what you typed. You specifically said whites.

But good job at deflecting. What about the other races? The other generations? Where is your proof that your reason is why whites are not buying?

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Apologies - I misread your comment. My brain has been a little foggy lately.

The reality is that whites make up the overwhelming amount of home-buyers, so they really dictate the market. They're are plenty of young black and Latino folks buying homes in their old neighborhoods. Just drive through South Dallas and other areas and you'll see young African-Americans and Latinos trying to improve their neighborhoods.

As usual, it is the racist, privileged white Democrat Gen-Zers that are not buying in "poor" neighborhoods and thus foregoing purchasing.

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More racist remarks from you with no facts.

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LOL said another way: "Your comment made me feel bad so you're a racist."

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Nope. Try again. His remark was racist. He said young white gen z. Those were his words.

I simply pointed out that the entire housing market is not bad because of one group and that there are no facts that back that claim up.

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Maybe RACIAL but not racist.

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calling demographic realities racist does not change demographic realities. But it does distract from an otherwise weak arguing position. That's why LWNJs throw the "r" word around so often..

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I am not a LWNJ. In fact if you paid attention I am far from that.

But saying that people don't buy houses because they might have to live near minorities is absolutely racist. Maybe not by you but is a racist reason someone doesn't want to buy a house.

And to claim the housing market is struggling because democrats are racist (which I would agree with and have often called them out on numerous times like their "blacks can't get IDs) arguments ) is not factual and ignores the fact that the housing market is struggling by people from both parties not buying and not buying in all areas not just bad areas.

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LOL.....read the bolded parts of his post again. It's not a racist comment. It's just a fact. We area +60% of the population, ergo mathematically the driving force in the market.

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Read his post again and think for a second.

He is saying that those 60% of the market are not buying at all. Anywhere. But then highlights they are not buying in specific areas because they don't want to live next to minorities.

He even goes a step further to narrow it down to say Dems aren't buying.

So follow his logic. White Dems (which would not be 60% of the buyers) are not buying at all, anywhere. And yet somehow that 30% or so of the market (according to his narrowly set limits) is causing the market to be bad???

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you're doing what the left does - using the ad hominem attack rather that sticking to the issues.

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I am far from a LWNJ and not the one who started this thread but have agreed with parts of the facts shown here about how homes have become out of reasonable price range for many Americans.

Part of the problem is that when talking real estate there is not a set price that can fit the whole country as a "reasonable" price. I pointed that out but he didn't like that answer. He wanted a set price point for the whole country. But that isn't how real estate works.

The facts show that the average age for first time home buyers has gone up. That should be a concern. Same for several of the other facts that have been presented in this thread.

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But what I think is missing is that there is affordable housing - there is just not affordable housing that privileged, young white Gen Z buyers feel is worthy of them. It is not that housing is not affordable - it is the house that the privileged Gen Z buyer feels entitled to is not affordable. There is a difference.

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If what you said were true then there would be a large portion of the population buying houses. You know the other generations and the non whites.

And yet that isn't happening.

There is a large percentage of the millennial, and the end of gen x that don't own, have never owned or bought much later in life and it wasn't for the reasons you gave above.

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Sorry. Maybe you did not read what I typed.

They are choosing to not buy houses that they feel is beneath their sense of entitlement

That is why they're not buying houses.

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Lol. That is not what you typed. You specifically said whites.

But good job at deflecting. What about the other races? The other generations? Where is your proof that your reason is why whites are not buying?

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Apologies - I misread your comment. My brain has been a little foggy lately.

The reality is that whites make up the overwhelming amount of home-buyers, so they really dictate the market. They're are plenty of young black and Latino folks buying homes in their old neighborhoods. Just drive through South Dallas and other areas and you'll see young African-Americans and Latinos trying to improve their neighborhoods.

As usual, it is the racist, privileged white Democrat Gen-Zers that are not buying in "poor" neighborhoods and thus foregoing purchasing.

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More racist remarks from you with no facts.

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LOL said another way: "Your comment made me feel bad so you're a racist."

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Nope. Try again. His remark was racist. He said young white gen z. Those were his words.

I simply pointed out that the entire housing market is not bad because of one group and that there are no facts that back that claim up.

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Maybe RACIAL but not racist.

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calling demographic realities racist does not change demographic realities. But it does distract from an otherwise weak arguing position. That's why LWNJs throw the "r" word around so often..

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I am not a LWNJ. In fact if you paid attention I am far from that.

But saying that people don't buy houses because they might have to live near minorities is absolutely racist. Maybe not by you but is a racist reason someone doesn't want to buy a house.

And to claim the housing market is struggling because democrats are racist (which I would agree with and have often called them out on numerous times like their "blacks can't get IDs) arguments ) is not factual and ignores the fact that the housing market is struggling by people from both parties not buying and not buying in all areas not just bad areas.

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LOL.....read the bolded parts of his post again. It's not a racist comment. It's just a fact. We area +60% of the population, ergo mathematically the driving force in the market.

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Read his post again and think for a second.

He is saying that those 60% of the market are not buying at all. Anywhere. But then highlights they are not buying in specific areas because they don't want to live next to minorities.

He even goes a step further to narrow it down to say Dems aren't buying.

So follow his logic. White Dems (which would not be 60% of the buyers) are not buying at all, anywhere. And yet somehow that 30% or so of the market (according to his narrowly set limits) is causing the market to be bad???

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you're doing what the left does - using the ad hominem attack rather that sticking to the issues.

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No sorry that is you not sticking to the issue. You see one word in my post and reply to that but ignore the other FACTS I present so you can attack that one word. Reply to the facts provided and stop deflecting.

How is the entire housing market horrible because of a small portion of the buying market (as he defined) and what is keeping the rest of the buyers from buying since they're not impacted by the narrow parameters he set?

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If what you said were true then there would be a large portion of the population buying houses. You know the other generations and the non whites.

And yet that isn't happening.

There is a large percentage of the millennial, and the end of gen x that don't own, have never owned or bought much later in life and it wasn't for the reasons you gave above.

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Sorry. Maybe you did not read what I typed.

They are choosing to not buy houses that they feel is beneath their sense of entitlement

That is why they're not buying houses.

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Lol. That is not what you typed. You specifically said whites.

But good job at deflecting. What about the other races? The other generations? Where is your proof that your reason is why whites are not buying?

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Apologies - I misread your comment. My brain has been a little foggy lately.

The reality is that whites make up the overwhelming amount of home-buyers, so they really dictate the market. They're are plenty of young black and Latino folks buying homes in their old neighborhoods. Just drive through South Dallas and other areas and you'll see young African-Americans and Latinos trying to improve their neighborhoods.

As usual, it is the racist, privileged white Democrat Gen-Zers that are not buying in "poor" neighborhoods and thus foregoing purchasing.

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More racist remarks from you with no facts.

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LOL said another way: "Your comment made me feel bad so you're a racist."

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Nope. Try again. His remark was racist. He said young white gen z. Those were his words.

I simply pointed out that the entire housing market is not bad because of one group and that there are no facts that back that claim up.

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Maybe RACIAL but not racist.

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calling demographic realities racist does not change demographic realities. But it does distract from an otherwise weak arguing position. That's why LWNJs throw the "r" word around so often..

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I am not a LWNJ. In fact if you paid attention I am far from that.

But saying that people don't buy houses because they might have to live near minorities is absolutely racist. Maybe not by you but is a racist reason someone doesn't want to buy a house.

And to claim the housing market is struggling because democrats are racist (which I would agree with and have often called them out on numerous times like their "blacks can't get IDs) arguments ) is not factual and ignores the fact that the housing market is struggling by people from both parties not buying and not buying in all areas not just bad areas.

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LOL.....read the bolded parts of his post again. It's not a racist comment. It's just a fact. We area +60% of the population, ergo mathematically the driving force in the market.

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Read his post again and think for a second.

He is saying that those 60% of the market are not buying at all. Anywhere. But then highlights they are not buying in specific areas because they don't want to live next to minorities.

He even goes a step further to narrow it down to say Dems aren't buying.

So follow his logic. White Dems (which would not be 60% of the buyers) are not buying at all, anywhere. And yet somehow that 30% or so of the market (according to his narrowly set limits) is causing the market to be bad???

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you're doing what the left does - using the ad hominem attack rather that sticking to the issues.

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No sorry that is you not sticking to the issue. You see one word in my post and reply to that but ignore the other FACTS I present so you can attack that one word. Reply to the facts provided and stop deflecting.

How is the entire housing market horrible because of a small portion of the buying market (as he defined) and what is keeping the rest of the buyers from buying since they're not impacted by the narrow parameters he set?

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You seem incapable of understanding what he said. He made the obvious point that whites (implicitly across all generations) are the majority of home buyers, ergo have preponderant influence on the housing market, and that white Democrat Gen Z-ers were not buying in markets they express such care for (ergo were implicitly hypocritical). And you injected a clearly unfounded allegation of racism rather than sticking to the facts (just like Democrats do all the time).

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If what you said were true then there would be a large portion of the population buying houses. You know the other generations and the non whites.

And yet that isn't happening.

There is a large percentage of the millennial, and the end of gen x that don't own, have never owned or bought much later in life and it wasn't for the reasons you gave above.

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Sorry. Maybe you did not read what I typed.

They are choosing to not buy houses that they feel is beneath their sense of entitlement

That is why they're not buying houses.

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Lol. That is not what you typed. You specifically said whites.

But good job at deflecting. What about the other races? The other generations? Where is your proof that your reason is why whites are not buying?

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Apologies - I misread your comment. My brain has been a little foggy lately.

The reality is that whites make up the overwhelming amount of home-buyers, so they really dictate the market. They're are plenty of young black and Latino folks buying homes in their old neighborhoods. Just drive through South Dallas and other areas and you'll see young African-Americans and Latinos trying to improve their neighborhoods.

As usual, it is the racist, privileged white Democrat Gen-Zers that are not buying in "poor" neighborhoods and thus foregoing purchasing.

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More racist remarks from you with no facts.

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LOL said another way: "Your comment made me feel bad so you're a racist."

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Nope. Try again. His remark was racist. He said young white gen z. Those were his words.

I simply pointed out that the entire housing market is not bad because of one group and that there are no facts that back that claim up.

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Maybe RACIAL but not racist.

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calling demographic realities racist does not change demographic realities. But it does distract from an otherwise weak arguing position. That's why LWNJs throw the "r" word around so often..

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I am not a LWNJ. In fact if you paid attention I am far from that.

But saying that people don't buy houses because they might have to live near minorities is absolutely racist. Maybe not by you but is a racist reason someone doesn't want to buy a house.

And to claim the housing market is struggling because democrats are racist (which I would agree with and have often called them out on numerous times like their "blacks can't get IDs) arguments ) is not factual and ignores the fact that the housing market is struggling by people from both parties not buying and not buying in all areas not just bad areas.

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LOL.....read the bolded parts of his post again. It's not a racist comment. It's just a fact. We area +60% of the population, ergo mathematically the driving force in the market.

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Read his post again and think for a second.

He is saying that those 60% of the market are not buying at all. Anywhere. But then highlights they are not buying in specific areas because they don't want to live next to minorities.

He even goes a step further to narrow it down to say Dems aren't buying.

So follow his logic. White Dems (which would not be 60% of the buyers) are not buying at all, anywhere. And yet somehow that 30% or so of the market (according to his narrowly set limits) is causing the market to be bad???

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you're doing what the left does - using the ad hominem attack rather that sticking to the issues.

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No sorry that is you not sticking to the issue. You see one word in my post and reply to that but ignore the other FACTS I present so you can attack that one word. Reply to the facts provided and stop deflecting.

How is the entire housing market horrible because of a small portion of the buying market (as he defined) and what is keeping the rest of the buyers from buying since they're not impacted by the narrow parameters he set?

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You seem incapable of understanding what he said. He made the obvious point that whites (implicitly across all generations) are the majority of home buyers, ergo have preponderant influence on the housing market, and that white Democrat Gen Z-ers were not buying in markets they express such care for (ergo were implicitly hypocritical). And you injected a clearly unfounded allegation of racism rather than sticking to the facts (just like Democrats do all the time).

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And again you are stuck on one word, make your entire post about that one word and ignore my post.

Why is the housing market so bad everywhere if only one small part of the buyers is not buying in specific locale as he claimed?

Ignore the one word that you keep harping on and answer the question. You won't because you can't answer that question without deflecting to that one word again.

Also, I have asked for facts that show that one group is not buying in those locations but other groups are. No one has provided it. Instead you and others want to harp on that one word.

I have also asked for an explanation of how it is not racist to refuse to buy in an area because you might have to live next to minorities. You and everyone else has ignored that.

Instead you want to attack one word in my original post and ignore anything else I have said.

Answer the questions or just admit you don't have facts to back it up.

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More racist remarks from you with no facts.

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LOL said another way: "Your comment made me feel bad so you're a racist."

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Nope. Try again. His remark was racist. He said young white gen z. Those were his words.

I simply pointed out that the entire housing market is not bad because of one group and that there are no facts that back that claim up.

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Maybe RACIAL but not racist.

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calling demographic realities racist does not change demographic realities. But it does distract from an otherwise weak arguing position. That's why LWNJs throw the "r" word around so often..

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I am not a LWNJ. In fact if you paid attention I am far from that.

But saying that people don't buy houses because they might have to live near minorities is absolutely racist. Maybe not by you but is a racist reason someone doesn't want to buy a house.

And to claim the housing market is struggling because democrats are racist (which I would agree with and have often called them out on numerous times like their "blacks can't get IDs) arguments ) is not factual and ignores the fact that the housing market is struggling by people from both parties not buying and not buying in all areas not just bad areas.

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LOL.....read the bolded parts of his post again. It's not a racist comment. It's just a fact. We area +60% of the population, ergo mathematically the driving force in the market.

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Read his post again and think for a second.

He is saying that those 60% of the market are not buying at all. Anywhere. But then highlights they are not buying in specific areas because they don't want to live next to minorities.

He even goes a step further to narrow it down to say Dems aren't buying.

So follow his logic. White Dems (which would not be 60% of the buyers) are not buying at all, anywhere. And yet somehow that 30% or so of the market (according to his narrowly set limits) is causing the market to be bad???

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you're doing what the left does - using the ad hominem attack rather that sticking to the issues.

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No sorry that is you not sticking to the issue. You see one word in my post and reply to that but ignore the other FACTS I present so you can attack that one word. Reply to the facts provided and stop deflecting.

How is the entire housing market horrible because of a small portion of the buying market (as he defined) and what is keeping the rest of the buyers from buying since they're not impacted by the narrow parameters he set?

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You seem incapable of understanding what he said. He made the obvious point that whites (implicitly across all generations) are the majority of home buyers, ergo have preponderant influence on the housing market, and that white Democrat Gen Z-ers were not buying in markets they express such care for (ergo were implicitly hypocritical). And you injected a clearly unfounded allegation of racism rather than sticking to the facts (just like Democrats do all the time).

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And again you are stuck on one word, make your entire post about that one word and ignore my post.


Why is the housing market so bad everywhere if only one small part of the buyers is not buying in specific locale as he claimed?

Ignore the one word that you keep harping on and answer the question. You won't because you can't answer that question without deflecting to that one word again.


Also, I have asked for facts that show that one group is not buying in those locations but other groups are. No one has provided it. Instead you and others want to harp on that one word.

I have also asked for an explanation of how it is not racist to refuse to buy in an area because you might have to live next to minorities. You and everyone else has ignored that.

Instead you want to attack one word in my original post and ignore anything else I have said.

Answer the questions or just admit you don't have facts to back it up.

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Distraction ploy. You threw the race card. Not cool.

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More racist remarks from you with no facts.

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LOL said another way: "Your comment made me feel bad so you're a racist."

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Nope. Try again. His remark was racist. He said young white gen z. Those were his words.

I simply pointed out that the entire housing market is not bad because of one group and that there are no facts that back that claim up.

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Maybe RACIAL but not racist.

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calling demographic realities racist does not change demographic realities. But it does distract from an otherwise weak arguing position. That's why LWNJs throw the "r" word around so often..

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I am not a LWNJ. In fact if you paid attention I am far from that.

But saying that people don't buy houses because they might have to live near minorities is absolutely racist. Maybe not by you but is a racist reason someone doesn't want to buy a house.

And to claim the housing market is struggling because democrats are racist (which I would agree with and have often called them out on numerous times like their "blacks can't get IDs) arguments ) is not factual and ignores the fact that the housing market is struggling by people from both parties not buying and not buying in all areas not just bad areas.

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LOL.....read the bolded parts of his post again. It's not a racist comment. It's just a fact. We area +60% of the population, ergo mathematically the driving force in the market.

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Read his post again and think for a second.

He is saying that those 60% of the market are not buying at all. Anywhere. But then highlights they are not buying in specific areas because they don't want to live next to minorities.

He even goes a step further to narrow it down to say Dems aren't buying.

So follow his logic. White Dems (which would not be 60% of the buyers) are not buying at all, anywhere. And yet somehow that 30% or so of the market (according to his narrowly set limits) is causing the market to be bad???

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you're doing what the left does - using the ad hominem attack rather that sticking to the issues.

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No sorry that is you not sticking to the issue. You see one word in my post and reply to that but ignore the other FACTS I present so you can attack that one word. Reply to the facts provided and stop deflecting.

How is the entire housing market horrible because of a small portion of the buying market (as he defined) and what is keeping the rest of the buyers from buying since they're not impacted by the narrow parameters he set?

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You seem incapable of understanding what he said. He made the obvious point that whites (implicitly across all generations) are the majority of home buyers, ergo have preponderant influence on the housing market, and that white Democrat Gen Z-ers were not buying in markets they express such care for (ergo were implicitly hypocritical). And you injected a clearly unfounded allegation of racism rather than sticking to the facts (just like Democrats do all the time).

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And again you are stuck on one word, make your entire post about that one word and ignore my post.


Why is the housing market so bad everywhere if only one small part of the buyers is not buying in specific locale as he claimed?

Ignore the one word that you keep harping on and answer the question. You won't because you can't answer that question without deflecting to that one word again.


Also, I have asked for facts that show that one group is not buying in those locations but other groups are. No one has provided it. Instead you and others want to harp on that one word.

I have also asked for an explanation of how it is not racist to refuse to buy in an area because you might have to live next to minorities. You and everyone else has ignored that.

Instead you want to attack one word in my original post and ignore anything else I have said.

Answer the questions or just admit you don't have facts to back it up.

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Distraction ploy. You threw the race card. Not cool.

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Lol. I threw truth but you can't handle it. That is why you won't actually discuss the facts I have presented and are stuck on one word.

Discuss the questions I have asked.

To all the people complaining about not being able to buy a home. These are a few examples of what’s in store for you when you earn the privilege of home ownership.

— Fright on Floyd (@FrightOnFloyd) December 11, 2025

BREAKING: US rent prices declined -0.2% MoM in November, to $1,706, recording the largest November drop in at least 15 years.

This also marks the 5th consecutive month of flat or negative rent changes.

Annual rent growth slowed to +0.7%, down from +1.5% in Q1 2025.

This comes… pic.twitter.com/JD26fBwAIH

— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) December 11, 2025

boognish_bear said:

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BREAKING: US rent prices declined -0.2% MoM in November, to $1,706, recording the largest November drop in at least 15 years.

This also marks the 5th consecutive month of flat or negative rent changes.

Annual rent growth slowed to +0.7%, down from +1.5% in Q1 2025.

This comes… pic.twitter.com/JD26fBwAIH

— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) December 11, 2025

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Totally believe this.

We are raising rents very little or not at all.

our rents increased 6 percent last year and occupancy is strong. We have specifically tailored our multifamily business concentrated in Texas, OK, FL,NC,AZ. a little downtick in rates help.

J.R. said:

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our rents increased 6 percent last year and occupancy is strong. We have specifically tailored our multifamily business concentrated in Texas, OK, FL,NC,AZ. a little downtick in rates help.

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We are traveling a lot lately, so attempting to keep our move outs to an absolute minimum.

A few extra nickels is just not worth the risk.

Definitely not seeing 6% increases in my markets. We're just excited that the drops have begun leveling out.

"Housing is going to be a problem," Fed Chair Powell said. "We can raise and lower interest rates, but we don't really have the tools to address a secular housing shortage, structural housing shortage. pic.twitter.com/neMU2W4N7s

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) December 13, 2025

boognish_bear said:

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"Housing is going to be a problem," Fed Chair Powell said. "We can raise and lower interest rates, but we don't really have the tools to address a secular housing shortage, structural housing shortage. pic.twitter.com/neMU2W4N7s

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) December 13, 2025

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It's easy….mass build and mass deport

boognish_bear said:

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BREAKING: US rent prices declined -0.2% MoM in November, to $1,706, recording the largest November drop in at least 15 years.

This also marks the 5th consecutive month of flat or negative rent changes.

Annual rent growth slowed to +0.7%, down from +1.5% in Q1 2025.

This comes… pic.twitter.com/JD26fBwAIH

— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) December 11, 2025

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we remove +2m illegal aliens from the country and the rental housing market softens.

Isn't it funny how that works.