Why can't young people afford houses?

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sombear
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Redbrickbear said:



Far higher interest rates back then, plus we have far more 2-income households now.

And I still maintain these numbers are skewed by the dramatic increase in the number and cost of higher end homes.

I posted a while back the average starter home costs through the U.S. They are very much affordable.
FLBear5630
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sombear said:

Redbrickbear said:



Far higher interest rates back then, plus we have far more 2-income households now.

And I still maintain these numbers are skewed by the dramatic increase in the number and cost of higher end homes.

I posted a while back the average starter home costs through the U.S. They are very much affordable.

I agree on the high end homes. It is getting ridiculous here in FL. They have destroyed the character of pretty much all waterfront. They buy 2 lots and replace normal homes with McMansions.
boognish_bear
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Not sure how much ripple effect impact this might have on prices and supply in Texas.

I know earlier in the year Trump talked about a carve out for hotel workers and those in agriculture helping farmers. I don't know if anything official happened with that or if construction laborers were ever considered.

https://www.texastribune.org/2025/12/24/south-texas-ice-arrests-home-construction/


"Construction can't continue": South Texas builders say ICE arrests have upended industry
More than 300 people attended an impromptu meeting that industry leaders in the Rio Grande Valley hosted to draw attention to the chilling effect ICE arrests have had on construction.

McALLEN One morning in mid-November, Mario Guerrero, the executive director of the South Texas Builders Association, was checking a group chat when a video of federal agents detaining people from a construction site popped up.

He watched the video of Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents detaining workers who were pouring cement in front of a home in an idyllic neighborhood here in the Rio Grande Valley.

For nearly a year, Guerrero had seen similar videos or read news reports of arrests and raids. This was the last straw.

The raids and the specter of more to come have struck fear in construction workers, causing many to stay home. ICE agents have arrested more than 9,100 people in South Texas nearly one-fifth of all such arrests in the entire state since Trump took office, according to government data provided by ICE in response to a FOIA request to the Deportation Data Project and analyzed by the Texas Tribune.

Without enough workers, construction has slowed, sending a ripple effect throughout the economy. Economists suggest that this will drive housing costs up even as Texas officials focus on bringing such costs down.

Later that afternoon, Guerrero posted a video of his own on the association's Facebook page in which he addressed the construction community, local elected officials and the public.

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"I would like to start off this video by saying that I am an American citizen, and it's crazy that we're living in times where you actually have to state that," Guerrero began.

He said he believed law enforcement should do their jobs, but was disturbed by the fact that ICE agents were operating without arrest warrants which they are legally allowed to do and detaining people who have proper authorization.

"It's what's happening across the Rio Grande Valley at construction sites," he said.

He ended the video by calling on local leaders to attend a meeting later that month to discuss the ongoing challenges facing the construction industry because of ICE raids.

"It's time that we have our leaders show up," he said. "Our people are hurting, our businesses are hurting. There's no labor."

Guerrero's candor about how the construction industry is suffering as a result of ICE raids grabbed the attention of the Rio Grande Valley community. For months, residents openly assumed that the construction industry was being negatively impacted, but had yet to hear anyone in the industry officially acknowledge it. Data from the Federal Reserve of Dallas shows a 5% drop in construction jobs during the third quarter of this year, the single largest dip in jobs in the region.

ICE did not respond to an interview request or list of questions The Texas Tribune sent.

With his comments, Guerrero opened the door for others to finally speak openly about it, catching the attention of state and federal officials.

"Construction can't continue"

When the day of the meeting arrived, more than 380 people filled the room at the Brookhaven Event Center in Pharr. It was packed with people who worked in nearly every facet of construction and development, including concrete, lumber, real estate, and lending. A handful of elected officials also attended.

During the roughly hour and a half that they met, those industry representatives took turns to discuss the hits their businesses had taken because workers were too frightened that ICE would show up at construction sites. They also warned of how the larger Rio Grande Valley economy would suffer if the ICE arrests didn't stop.

"Business is down significantly," Ronnie Cavazos, board presidentof the South Texas Builders Association, told the crowd. "If we continue on this trajectory, we will see a lot of businesses fail."

Isaac Smith, a co-owner of Matt's Building Materials, said his family's stores were struggling to get lumber out the door.

"If job sites are getting raided, at any level, the construction can't continue," Smith told the Tribune. "It's not a fun situation to be in."

Smith said his sales had seen a rate of decline in the double digits since the ICE operations began. He's also seen an increase in late payments from customers with a credit line from the store.

"That takes an adverse effect on our cash flow and how we operate, how we manage expenses, and money coming in, and money going out," Smith said.

"We wish it would stop"

During the Nov. 17 meeting, Cavazos took a moment to bring attention to the people directly affected by the raids the workers.

"Let me tell you about immigrants in this country. Nobody believes in the American dream more than them," Cavazos said in his remarks." The immigrant should be celebrated, treated with dignity and allowed to work and provide for their families."

Every few days, videos of ICE operations gain widespread attention. Jesus, a 42-year-old construction worker who asked his last name not be used because he and his wife are undocumented, said he and his fellow workers keep a lookout for ICE when they're out on a job if they go to work.

Jesus has drastically decreased the number of jobs he takes, just enough to ensure his family can survive.

"We hardly work anymore; we're afraid to go out into the street," he said. "We don't look for work because we're scared."

He estimates he brings in about 60% less than he used to before the raids began. He, his wife and their four children try to survive off the diminished salary that he brings in.

"We wish it would stop, but we don't control these things," Jesus said. "The government does."

Unintended consequences

With fewer construction workers available to build homes, delays in building could result in a shortage of homes and cause home prices to rise.

It would not be the first time that changes in immigration policy could be at least a partial factor in housing unaffordability.

Researchers found that under an Obama-era immigration enforcement program, deportations led to a shortage of labor in the construction sector and, therefore, fewer new homes.

The program, called Secure Communities, was launched during the George W. Bush administration but was expanded under former President Barack Obama, leading to more than 300,000 deportations from 2008 to 2013.

Nationwide, there was a 2% to 3% decrease in labor in the construction industry and a 5.7% decrease in new constructions during that time. The new constructions that were getting built went up in price by 4.4%, according to Dayin Zhang, one of the researchers and an assistant professor at the Wisconsin School of Business.

"It is difficult to forecast the future, as many economic conditions have changed over the past two decades," Zhang said. "However, given the current pace of deportations, it is reasonable to expect that shortages in construction labor and housing will become more severe than the period of Secure Communities."

How that might translate to today will likely depend on the total number of people deported under the Trump administration. The administration claims more than 600,000 have been deported since Trump took office in January, though immigration advocates have questioned the accuracy of their numbers.

Thrust into the spotlight

Since the meeting, Guerrero has received an unusual amount of attention for someone who usually stays off social media.

His video grabbed the attention of U.S. Rep. Henry Cuellar, a Laredo Democrat, who asked to meet. The meeting, held at a seafood restaurant, went well, Guerrero said, with Cuellar expressing a desire to bring awareness to the issue at the congressional level.

On Dec. 10, Guerrero attended a private meeting with Gov. Greg Abbott when the governor swung through the Valley to champion his proposals to cut property taxes.

At the end of the meeting, Guerrero introduced himself to Abbott, but the governor appeared to already know who he was. During their brief exchange, Guerrero handed him a letter and invited him to another builders' meeting in January.

Abbott's office did not respond to a request for comment.

He's gotten some negative feedback, too. People have left messages on social media accusing him of wanting to exploit cheap labor. He strongly pushed back against that accusation, adding that entry-level laborers are paid the equivalent of $15 per hour.

People on social media also commented that he should be prosecuted or investigated, and told him he shouldn't be calling out local elected officials.

Guerrero isn't backing down.

For the January meeting, he has invited more elected officials at all levels of government. He hopes these ongoing public gatherings will bring greater awareness to their plight.

"People maybe don't understand the magnitude of what's happening," Guererror said. "But that's where we have to come together as human beings, and we need to be a little cognizant about the real situation that we're facing."

Reporting in the Rio Grande Valley is supported in part by the Methodist Healthcare Ministries of South Texas, Inc.
Redbrickbear
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nein51
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Yeah it's houses causing that. Not a huge Hispanic population lol.
Redbrickbear
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nein51 said:

Yeah it's houses causing that. Not a huge Hispanic population lol.


Agree

Hispanic (legal population) is helping maintain Texas population level, fertility rate, and economic growth.

And Texas building policies are helping to keep Texas housing prices on the affordable side.

Other States have terrible demographics and terrible housing policies
FLBear5630
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Redbrickbear said:

nein51 said:

Yeah it's houses causing that. Not a huge Hispanic population lol.


Agree

Hispanic (legal population) is helping maintain Texas population level, fertility rate, and economic growth.

And Texas building policies are helping to keep Texas housing prices on the affordable side.

Other States have terrible demographics and terrible housing policies


Texas is lucky in having the land to build. Many states put east do not have that.
boykin_spaniel
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The issue is location. Young people want to live close to work and around other young people. In my area those homes have been bulldozed for two 3 story tall and skinny's that sell for over $500k. Now when an old lady passes or someone moves and an older home goes on the market the surrounding sales have driven up the price of the dirt and a developer or Californian overpays and a young local person is priced out anyway.

Yes there are plenty of more affordable homes in Nebraska or New Hampshire and I've read articles about young folks buying homes there. Many work remote or do very well in a trade.

A core issue are the young people who live in a major city. Unless they buy a home in a high crime area or have a 60-90 minute commute they're pretty much priced out. Young families want a good school system which drives home prices higher.

Neighborhoods evolve over time but a lot of cities have issues with middle housing stock. Those neighborhoods have become too expensive for young people and the have not neighborhoods have stayed the same.

As Florida Bear mentioned, not every state has the space of Texas. If you're already pretty built out then housing will just keep going up without space to build some middle housing.

Not mentioned yet (haven't read every post) is zoning. No one wants cheaper housing being built in their area and driving their home price down. They will combat new cheaper builds with zoning.
FLBear5630
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boykin_spaniel said:

The issue is location. Young people want to live close to work and around other young people. In my area those homes have been bulldozed for two 3 story tall and skinny's that sell for over $500k. Now when an old lady passes or someone moves and an older home goes on the market the surrounding sales have driven up the price of the dirt and a developer or Californian overpays and a young local person is priced out anyway.

Yes there are plenty of more affordable homes in Nebraska or New Hampshire and I've read articles about young folks buying homes there. Many work remote or do very well in a trade.

A core issue are the young people who live in a major city. Unless they buy a home in a high crime area or have a 60-90 minute commute they're pretty much priced out. Young families want a good school system which drives home prices higher.

Neighborhoods evolve over time but a lot of cities have issues with middle housing stock. Those neighborhoods have become too expensive for young people and the have not neighborhoods have stayed the same.

As Florida Bear mentioned, not every state has the space of Texas. If you're already pretty built out then housing will just keep going up without space to build some middle housing.

Not mentioned yet (haven't read every post) is zoning. No one wants cheaper housing being built in their area and driving their home price down. They will combat new cheaper builds with zoning.


yup. The people on this board act like these are new problems, they aren't and occur for reasons. They act like it is a Dem plot. Location and housing have been issues in populous states for decades. The sunbelt is now reaching that point. Either you commute, are not safe or take on debt. Those are your choices. Then we have those that are telling these people to not have any debt. How do you do that on top of the rest.
boognish_bear
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Interesting thread…

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nein51
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Not enough information. People are getting married at a much different rate. So is that chart an indictment of home prices or lack of marriage?
KaiBear
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boognish_bear said:



We are raising rents little or not at all.


Been a great ride these last 8 years but nothing stays golden forever.
J.R.
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KaiBear said:

boognish_bear said:



We are raising rents little or not at all.


Been a great ride these last 8 years but nothing stays golden forever.

We are still getting 5% up rents in the markets we participate. We view the 1st time homebuyer as our #1 competitor.
boognish_bear
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nein51
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That lowers the payment approximately $49 per $100,000 financed.

If the difference in buying and not buying is $147 you can't afford to buy.
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