Tucker's attempt to normalize Nick Fuentes

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Do you agree with him?
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The old cliche saying, "history is written by the victors" is so evident when studying WW2. I encourage all history buffs to make an attempt to study 20th century history from a true neutral perspective, read from the axis side, the translated Hitler speeches are real interesting to listen to as well

Big Hitler fan I see.


I had a feeling you would respond, I should've threw a disclaimer in my post. Figured yall could have mature conversations without pointing fingers

Just giving you a hard time. I don't share your admiration of Hitler, of course, but am happy to have a discussion, as you're more reasonable (and intelligent) than the other Groypers on this website.

There's still hope for you.


There is still hope for him to adopt my dying Boomer ideology that only white people - especially white German people - can be bad and that white people should not be proud of themselves at the risk of offending others, but should instead be as weak, pathetic, and cowardly as possible.

And if you say anything even approaching criticism of my sacred Boomer idol, Israel... I will rage at you with the intensity of a thousand suns... criticizing America and Europe is strongly encouraged however.

Speaking of boomer ideology, your ideology died off with the Nazis, lol.


Tell that to your son's football team.

The good news is that most of the team disagreed with the handful of racist neo-Nazis. Most still adhere to common human decency and morality.

So "boomer" of them.

I'm sure they'll be wearing balaclavas and burning down historical monuments in no time!

You'll be a proud Boomer!

Honestly, the fact that you would call teenagers "racist neo-nazis" for being edgy and counter-culture just proves what a ****** and POS you are....

If a white, impotent racist neo-nazi POS dislikes me, that's a good thing.

So thanks.


You are one of those Boomers who won't say Merry Christmas, arent you?

Oh, I am definitely a proud boomer who says Happy Holidays, though I will make an exception and wish the Jews Happy Hannukah.








The irony here? You admittedly don't even believe in him.


I believe Jesus existed and his story and message manifested as Christianity changed the world for the better.

But no, I do not believe in a deity or an afterlife, but I don't throw the baby out with the bathwater bcs of that.


So you like the thought of Jesus, you just don't believe in him or follow his teachings. This is of course no surprise to any Christian who had read your posts.

As I said, I pray you find him.
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Sam Lowry said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Osodecentx said:

Bruisers Burner Phone said:

The_barBEARian said:


Churchill was the chief villain of WW2.



Aaaand you can stop reading there.

Tucker Carlson version of 'history for the weak minded'

Certainly it is podcaster Daryl Cooper's view of history, and Tucker seems to buy it hook, line, and sinker.

I've listened to Cooper and read Buchanan's book many years ago, and from what I recall of Buchanan and my understanding of Cooper's position, they are focused on what was essentially Churchill's unwillingness to agree to Hitler's desire to expand and conquer much of Eastern Europe. I know Buchanan didn't like the treatment of Germany post WWI, and posits that had Churchill been willing to allow Germany to conquer Eastern Europe, then a global conflict would likely not have happened, and the Holocaust would likely not have happened, because the Final Solution was a product of Hitler feeling the noose tightening.

Of course, what Buchanan ignores is that the Nazis' occupation of Poland was exceptionally brutal from the get-go. The Nazis targeted the educated Polish, including the teachers, clergy, doctors and govt. leaders, executing tens of thousands of them. They also had disdain for the Slavic background of the Polish, considering them an inferior race, which is why they killed millions of them indiscriminately. It is estimated that in addition to the 3 million Polish Jews who were exterminated at the hands of the Nazis, approximately 2 million ethnic Poles were likewise executed. This genocide began long before Hitler's Final Solution was put into effect, which of course completely undermines Buchanan's position. Hitler had plans to march through the rest of Eastern Europe and do the same thing as he did in Poland, and undoubtedly would have done so if not met with resistance.

Now, Buchanan is correct that Hitler didn't want war with GB. Indeed, he was a fan of Anglophiles (feeling they were also a superior race), and didn't have the disdain for them that he had for the Slavs and Jews, who he felt could be killed with abandon. So, in a sense, Buchanan is right that Churchill's refusal to allow Germany to march across Eastern Europe is what contributed to WWII becoming a global conflict. But it is an extremely ethnocentric (and, quite frankly, despicable) view in which Buchanan essentially demonstrated that it was more important in his mind for the Anglophiles to unite instead of war with one another. And that was more important than a few million dead Slavs and Jews.

Of course, you can see why it has so many fans on this board.

Buchanan's point is that Poland was either going to the Nazis or the communists. Both were brutal, but there was nothing we could do about it. That has nothing to do with why we fought the war.

Just FYI, we did something about it.

And sure it does. It was the catalyst that led GB's involvement, and helped turn the regional war into a more global conflict.

There was nothing we could do about it. Poland became part of the Eastern Bloc, and so it remained until the end of the Cold War.

Again, we DID do something about it. And while Poland became part of the Eastern Bloc, it doesn't change the fact that GB went to war with Germany in large part because of its invasion of Poland. These are undisputed facts.

Now, was it ultimately successful in freeing Poland from any type of foreign interference? No. Was it a foolish thing to go to war because of Hitler's invasion of Poland? Perhaps. Should we have pushed back on the Soviet Union instead of allowing it to vastly expand its territory? I believe so. But these are different arguments that don't change any of the facts I said above, regardless of what you feel about whether it was a foolish endeavor.

Moreover, from what I recall of Buchanan's book, he assumed that Hitler would stop there, when there was pretty substantial evidence that his plans included incorporating much of Eastern Europe into Germany. There wasn't much evidence to suggest that Hitler's territorial ambitions ended with occupying Poland, and we saw that first hand given his behavior for the rest of the war.

Buchanan's point is that either the Germans or the Russians were going to take Poland. Nothing we did changed that. So while you might assume it was unthinkable to walk away and let Poland fall under tyranny, and that therefore we had no choice but to enter the war, the end result was always going to be the same.

Buchanan may have been right. But he also may have been wrong.

As for me, I've offered no opinion on the subject of whether it was a poor decision or the correct one. I've simply commented on the reason it expanded into a world war, and the invasion of Poland was certainly the catalyst.

There is also no question in my mind that Buchanan's view was affected by his ethnocentrism.
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Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Bruisers Burner Phone said:

The_barBEARian said:


Churchill was the chief villain of WW2.



Aaaand you can stop reading there.

Tucker Carlson version of 'history for the weak minded'

Certainly it is podcaster Daryl Cooper's view of history, and Tucker seems to buy it hook, line, and sinker.

I've listened to Cooper and read Buchanan's book many years ago, and from what I recall of Buchanan and my understanding of Cooper's position, they are focused on what was essentially Churchill's unwillingness to agree to Hitler's desire to expand and conquer much of Eastern Europe. I know Buchanan didn't like the treatment of Germany post WWI, and posits that had Churchill been willing to allow Germany to conquer Eastern Europe, then a global conflict would likely not have happened, and the Holocaust would likely not have happened, because the Final Solution was a product of Hitler feeling the noose tightening.

Of course, what Buchanan ignores is that the Nazis' occupation of Poland was exceptionally brutal from the get-go. The Nazis targeted the educated Polish, including the teachers, clergy, doctors and govt. leaders, executing tens of thousands of them. They also had disdain for the Slavic background of the Polish, considering them an inferior race, which is why they killed millions of them indiscriminately. It is estimated that in addition to the 3 million Polish Jews who were exterminated at the hands of the Nazis, approximately 2 million ethnic Poles were likewise executed. This genocide began long before Hitler's Final Solution was put into effect, which of course completely undermines Buchanan's position. Hitler had plans to march through the rest of Eastern Europe and do the same thing as he did in Poland, and undoubtedly would have done so if not met with resistance.

Now, Buchanan is correct that Hitler didn't want war with GB. Indeed, he was a fan of Anglophiles (feeling they were also a superior race), and didn't have the disdain for them that he had for the Slavs and Jews, who he felt could be killed with abandon. So, in a sense, Buchanan is right that Churchill's refusal to allow Germany to march across Eastern Europe is what contributed to WWII becoming a global conflict. But it is an extremely ethnocentric (and, quite frankly, despicable) view in which Buchanan essentially demonstrated that it was more important in his mind for the Anglophiles to unite instead of war with one another. And that was more important than a few million dead Slavs and Jews.

Of course, you can see why it has so many fans on this board.

Buchanan's point is that Poland was either going to the Nazis or the communists. Both were brutal, but there was nothing we could do about it. That has nothing to do with why we fought the war.

Just FYI, we did something about it.

And sure it does. It was the catalyst that led GB's involvement, and helped turn the regional war into a more global conflict.

There was nothing we could do about it. Poland became part of the Eastern Bloc, and so it remained until the end of the Cold War.

Again, we DID do something about it. And while Poland became part of the Eastern Bloc, it doesn't change the fact that GB went to war with Germany in large part because of its invasion of Poland. These are undisputed facts.

Now, was it ultimately successful in freeing Poland from any type of foreign interference? No. Was it a foolish thing to go to war because of Hitler's invasion of Poland? Perhaps. Should we have pushed back on the Soviet Union instead of allowing it to vastly expand its territory? I believe so. But these are different arguments that don't change any of the facts I said above, regardless of what you feel about whether it was a foolish endeavor.

Moreover, from what I recall of Buchanan's book, he assumed that Hitler would stop there, when there was pretty substantial evidence that his plans included incorporating much of Eastern Europe into Germany. There wasn't much evidence to suggest that Hitler's territorial ambitions ended with occupying Poland, and we saw that first hand given his behavior for the rest of the war.

Buchanan's point is that either the Germans or the Russians were going to take Poland. Nothing we did changed that. So while you might assume it was unthinkable to walk away and let Poland fall under tyranny, and that therefore we had no choice but to enter the war, the end result was always going to be the same.

Buchanan may have been right. But he also may have been wrong.

As for me, I've offered no opinion on the subject of whether it was a poor decision or the correct one. I've simply commented on the reason it expanded into a world war, and the invasion of Poland was certainly the catalyst.

There is also no question in my mind that Buchanan's view was affected by his ethnocentrism.

Buchanan apparently forgot that Poland at times in its history was a peer power with Russian and/or Germany.
A Polish cavalry charge shattered the Turkish army at the gates of Vienna, ending centuries of Ottoman threats to East & Central Europe.

A strong case can be made that a strong Poland is a very, very good thing.......
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Do you agree with him?

I cant say I disagree with JFK.

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Kennedy did not admire Hitler.

Such a premise is mere internet pulp.

Kennedy's older brother….Joe Jr…..died fighting the Nazis.
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Every day I read about a new jewish terror attack from the beginning of the 20th century that I had never heard about before.

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Kennedy did not admire Hitler.

Such a premise is mere internet pulp.

Kennedy's older brother….Joe Jr…..died fighting the Nazis.


Kennedy did not admire Israel stealing enriched uranium to develop their nuclear weapons program.

When a U.S. president demanded inspections of a nuclear facility in the Middle East (and failed)

"American commitment and support of Israel could be seriously jeopardized if Israel does not let the United States obtain reliable information about Israel's efforts in the nuclear field." - JFK

JFK was conveniently assassinated three months later.
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They covered it up for decades and when it got revealed Israel only had to pay the families of the victims and the survivors a few million dollars.... that same year Israel received a billion dollars in aid from US tax payers.
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If I ever win the lottery, I will use the money to produce a band of brothers style movie about the Attack on the USS Liberty... it was basically the Alamo on water and one of the most heroic moments in American military history. The fact that anyone survived and they foiled the false flag attack is a testament to the bravery and competence of the crew.
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Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Bruisers Burner Phone said:

The_barBEARian said:


Churchill was the chief villain of WW2.



Aaaand you can stop reading there.

Tucker Carlson version of 'history for the weak minded'

Certainly it is podcaster Daryl Cooper's view of history, and Tucker seems to buy it hook, line, and sinker.

I've listened to Cooper and read Buchanan's book many years ago, and from what I recall of Buchanan and my understanding of Cooper's position, they are focused on what was essentially Churchill's unwillingness to agree to Hitler's desire to expand and conquer much of Eastern Europe. I know Buchanan didn't like the treatment of Germany post WWI, and posits that had Churchill been willing to allow Germany to conquer Eastern Europe, then a global conflict would likely not have happened, and the Holocaust would likely not have happened, because the Final Solution was a product of Hitler feeling the noose tightening.

Of course, what Buchanan ignores is that the Nazis' occupation of Poland was exceptionally brutal from the get-go. The Nazis targeted the educated Polish, including the teachers, clergy, doctors and govt. leaders, executing tens of thousands of them. They also had disdain for the Slavic background of the Polish, considering them an inferior race, which is why they killed millions of them indiscriminately. It is estimated that in addition to the 3 million Polish Jews who were exterminated at the hands of the Nazis, approximately 2 million ethnic Poles were likewise executed. This genocide began long before Hitler's Final Solution was put into effect, which of course completely undermines Buchanan's position. Hitler had plans to march through the rest of Eastern Europe and do the same thing as he did in Poland, and undoubtedly would have done so if not met with resistance.

Now, Buchanan is correct that Hitler didn't want war with GB. Indeed, he was a fan of Anglophiles (feeling they were also a superior race), and didn't have the disdain for them that he had for the Slavs and Jews, who he felt could be killed with abandon. So, in a sense, Buchanan is right that Churchill's refusal to allow Germany to march across Eastern Europe is what contributed to WWII becoming a global conflict. But it is an extremely ethnocentric (and, quite frankly, despicable) view in which Buchanan essentially demonstrated that it was more important in his mind for the Anglophiles to unite instead of war with one another. And that was more important than a few million dead Slavs and Jews.

Of course, you can see why it has so many fans on this board.

Buchanan's point is that Poland was either going to the Nazis or the communists. Both were brutal, but there was nothing we could do about it. That has nothing to do with why we fought the war.

Just FYI, we did something about it.

And sure it does. It was the catalyst that led GB's involvement, and helped turn the regional war into a more global conflict.

There was nothing we could do about it. Poland became part of the Eastern Bloc, and so it remained until the end of the Cold War.

Again, we DID do something about it. And while Poland became part of the Eastern Bloc, it doesn't change the fact that GB went to war with Germany in large part because of its invasion of Poland. These are undisputed facts.

Now, was it ultimately successful in freeing Poland from any type of foreign interference? No. Was it a foolish thing to go to war because of Hitler's invasion of Poland? Perhaps. Should we have pushed back on the Soviet Union instead of allowing it to vastly expand its territory? I believe so. But these are different arguments that don't change any of the facts I said above, regardless of what you feel about whether it was a foolish endeavor.

Moreover, from what I recall of Buchanan's book, he assumed that Hitler would stop there, when there was pretty substantial evidence that his plans included incorporating much of Eastern Europe into Germany. There wasn't much evidence to suggest that Hitler's territorial ambitions ended with occupying Poland, and we saw that first hand given his behavior for the rest of the war.

Buchanan's point is that either the Germans or the Russians were going to take Poland. Nothing we did changed that. So while you might assume it was unthinkable to walk away and let Poland fall under tyranny, and that therefore we had no choice but to enter the war, the end result was always going to be the same.

Buchanan may have been right. But he also may have been wrong.

As for me, I've offered no opinion on the subject of whether it was a poor decision or the correct one. I've simply commented on the reason it expanded into a world war, and the invasion of Poland was certainly the catalyst.

There is also no question in my mind that Buchanan's view was affected by his ethnocentrism.

Poland was a catalyst in the true sense, as it precipitated the event without any change in its own fate. The real action and reaction were elsewhere.
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1) Finish High School
2) Get a Job
3) Get Married
4) Have Kids
5) Go to Church

.... this guy is suppose to be some type of savant?.... an intellectual heavyweight?... this is the type of checklist for life that a 5 year old would come up with.

What he is really saying is I dont give a **** if you are unhappy with the current state of the union. Be the perfect obedient slave and pay 30% of your income to Israel.
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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

The old cliche saying, "history is written by the victors" is so evident when studying WW2. I encourage all history buffs to make an attempt to study 20th century history from a true neutral perspective, read from the axis side, the translated Hitler speeches are real interesting to listen to as well

Big Hitler fan I see.


I had a feeling you would respond, I should've threw a disclaimer in my post. Figured yall could have mature conversations without pointing fingers

Just giving you a hard time. I don't share your admiration of Hitler, of course, but am happy to have a discussion, as you're more reasonable (and intelligent) than the other Groypers on this website.

There's still hope for you.


There is still hope for him to adopt my dying Boomer ideology that only white people - especially white German people - can be bad and that white people should not be proud of themselves at the risk of offending others, but should instead be as weak, pathetic, and cowardly as possible.

And if you say anything even approaching criticism of my sacred Boomer idol, Israel... I will rage at you with the intensity of a thousand suns... criticizing America and Europe is strongly encouraged however.

Speaking of boomer ideology, your ideology died off with the Nazis, lol.


Tell that to your son's football team.

The good news is that most of the team disagreed with the handful of racist neo-Nazis. Most still adhere to common human decency and morality.

So "boomer" of them.

I'm sure they'll be wearing balaclavas and burning down historical monuments in no time!

You'll be a proud Boomer!

Honestly, the fact that you would call teenagers "racist neo-nazis" for being edgy and counter-culture just proves what a ****** and POS you are....

If a white, impotent racist neo-nazi POS dislikes me, that's a good thing.

So thanks.


You are one of those Boomers who won't say Merry Christmas, arent you?

Oh, I am definitely a proud boomer who says Happy Holidays, though I will make an exception and wish the Jews Happy Hannukah.








The irony here? You admittedly don't even believe in him.


I believe Jesus existed and his story and message manifested as Christianity changed the world for the better.

But no, I do not believe in a deity or an afterlife, but I don't throw the baby out with the bathwater bcs of that.


So you like the thought of Jesus, you just don't believe in him or follow his teachings. This is of course no surprise to any Christian who had read your posts.

As I said, I pray you find him.



I am honest about my position on organized religion, which is admirable.

The really loathsome people are the ones who attempt to speak for god and manipulate scripture to promote or endorse their personal interests

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The_barBEARian said:

Every day I read about a new jewish terror attack from the beginning of the 20th century that I had never heard about before.



If international jewry was responsible for communism, why isn't Israel a communist state?
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muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:




Do you agree with him?

I cant say I disagree with JFK.




As I figured. What did you like best about him? How many Jews he killed?
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Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Bruisers Burner Phone said:

The_barBEARian said:


Churchill was the chief villain of WW2.



Aaaand you can stop reading there.

Tucker Carlson version of 'history for the weak minded'

Certainly it is podcaster Daryl Cooper's view of history, and Tucker seems to buy it hook, line, and sinker.

I've listened to Cooper and read Buchanan's book many years ago, and from what I recall of Buchanan and my understanding of Cooper's position, they are focused on what was essentially Churchill's unwillingness to agree to Hitler's desire to expand and conquer much of Eastern Europe. I know Buchanan didn't like the treatment of Germany post WWI, and posits that had Churchill been willing to allow Germany to conquer Eastern Europe, then a global conflict would likely not have happened, and the Holocaust would likely not have happened, because the Final Solution was a product of Hitler feeling the noose tightening.

Of course, what Buchanan ignores is that the Nazis' occupation of Poland was exceptionally brutal from the get-go. The Nazis targeted the educated Polish, including the teachers, clergy, doctors and govt. leaders, executing tens of thousands of them. They also had disdain for the Slavic background of the Polish, considering them an inferior race, which is why they killed millions of them indiscriminately. It is estimated that in addition to the 3 million Polish Jews who were exterminated at the hands of the Nazis, approximately 2 million ethnic Poles were likewise executed. This genocide began long before Hitler's Final Solution was put into effect, which of course completely undermines Buchanan's position. Hitler had plans to march through the rest of Eastern Europe and do the same thing as he did in Poland, and undoubtedly would have done so if not met with resistance.

Now, Buchanan is correct that Hitler didn't want war with GB. Indeed, he was a fan of Anglophiles (feeling they were also a superior race), and didn't have the disdain for them that he had for the Slavs and Jews, who he felt could be killed with abandon. So, in a sense, Buchanan is right that Churchill's refusal to allow Germany to march across Eastern Europe is what contributed to WWII becoming a global conflict. But it is an extremely ethnocentric (and, quite frankly, despicable) view in which Buchanan essentially demonstrated that it was more important in his mind for the Anglophiles to unite instead of war with one another. And that was more important than a few million dead Slavs and Jews.

Of course, you can see why it has so many fans on this board.

Buchanan's point is that Poland was either going to the Nazis or the communists. Both were brutal, but there was nothing we could do about it. That has nothing to do with why we fought the war.

Just FYI, we did something about it.

And sure it does. It was the catalyst that led GB's involvement, and helped turn the regional war into a more global conflict.

There was nothing we could do about it. Poland became part of the Eastern Bloc, and so it remained until the end of the Cold War.

Again, we DID do something about it. And while Poland became part of the Eastern Bloc, it doesn't change the fact that GB went to war with Germany in large part because of its invasion of Poland. These are undisputed facts.

Now, was it ultimately successful in freeing Poland from any type of foreign interference? No. Was it a foolish thing to go to war because of Hitler's invasion of Poland? Perhaps. Should we have pushed back on the Soviet Union instead of allowing it to vastly expand its territory? I believe so. But these are different arguments that don't change any of the facts I said above, regardless of what you feel about whether it was a foolish endeavor.

Moreover, from what I recall of Buchanan's book, he assumed that Hitler would stop there, when there was pretty substantial evidence that his plans included incorporating much of Eastern Europe into Germany. There wasn't much evidence to suggest that Hitler's territorial ambitions ended with occupying Poland, and we saw that first hand given his behavior for the rest of the war.

Buchanan's point is that either the Germans or the Russians were going to take Poland. Nothing we did changed that. So while you might assume it was unthinkable to walk away and let Poland fall under tyranny, and that therefore we had no choice but to enter the war, the end result was always going to be the same.

Buchanan may have been right. But he also may have been wrong.

As for me, I've offered no opinion on the subject of whether it was a poor decision or the correct one. I've simply commented on the reason it expanded into a world war, and the invasion of Poland was certainly the catalyst.

There is also no question in my mind that Buchanan's view was affected by his ethnocentrism.

Poland was a catalyst in the true sense, as it precipitated the event without any change in its own fate. The real action and reaction were elsewhere.


What's crazy is it took this many posts for you to come out and agree with my original statement.

Ever the obtuse contrarian. You waste so much bandwidth.
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whiterock said:

The_barBEARian said:

Every day I read about a new jewish terror attack from the beginning of the 20th century that I had never heard about before.



If international jewry was responsible for communism, why isn't Israel a communist state?


Probably because of the failure of the kibbutzim. By the 1980s, most had been privatized.
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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

The old cliche saying, "history is written by the victors" is so evident when studying WW2. I encourage all history buffs to make an attempt to study 20th century history from a true neutral perspective, read from the axis side, the translated Hitler speeches are real interesting to listen to as well

Big Hitler fan I see.


I had a feeling you would respond, I should've threw a disclaimer in my post. Figured yall could have mature conversations without pointing fingers

Just giving you a hard time. I don't share your admiration of Hitler, of course, but am happy to have a discussion, as you're more reasonable (and intelligent) than the other Groypers on this website.

There's still hope for you.


There is still hope for him to adopt my dying Boomer ideology that only white people - especially white German people - can be bad and that white people should not be proud of themselves at the risk of offending others, but should instead be as weak, pathetic, and cowardly as possible.

And if you say anything even approaching criticism of my sacred Boomer idol, Israel... I will rage at you with the intensity of a thousand suns... criticizing America and Europe is strongly encouraged however.

Speaking of boomer ideology, your ideology died off with the Nazis, lol.


Tell that to your son's football team.

The good news is that most of the team disagreed with the handful of racist neo-Nazis. Most still adhere to common human decency and morality.

So "boomer" of them.

I'm sure they'll be wearing balaclavas and burning down historical monuments in no time!

You'll be a proud Boomer!

Honestly, the fact that you would call teenagers "racist neo-nazis" for being edgy and counter-culture just proves what a ****** and POS you are....

If a white, impotent racist neo-nazi POS dislikes me, that's a good thing.

So thanks.


You are one of those Boomers who won't say Merry Christmas, arent you?

Oh, I am definitely a proud boomer who says Happy Holidays, though I will make an exception and wish the Jews Happy Hannukah.








The irony here? You admittedly don't even believe in him.


I believe Jesus existed and his story and message manifested as Christianity changed the world for the better.

But no, I do not believe in a deity or an afterlife, but I don't throw the baby out with the bathwater bcs of that.


So you like the thought of Jesus, you just don't believe in him or follow his teachings. This is of course no surprise to any Christian who had read your posts.

As I said, I pray you find him.



I am honest about my position on organized religion, which is admirable.

The really loathsome people are the ones who attempt to speak for god and manipulate scripture to promote or endorse their personal interests




I would respectfully submit there's nothing "admirable" about rejecting Christ as your lord and savior of the world, but as we age we mellow and I pray that you find him as I did in my adult years.

As for Tucker, unfortunately, he is one of the people you just described. His rudimentary, understanding of scripture, and his misguided interpretations have caused him to take some positions that are simply not grounded in scripture. He is a very baby Christian if he's a Christian at all (as he admits in his comments). Anyone who's looking at him for spiritual guidance needs to take what he says with a huge grain of salt. He is most definitely wrong and has twisted scripture with his position on replacement theology. His comments here are largely strawmen.

He is also an extremely vile and hateful person, which of course, violates Christ second command. It's hard to see any fruit of the spirit in Tucker.
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Realitybites said:

whiterock said:

The_barBEARian said:

Every day I read about a new jewish terror attack from the beginning of the 20th century that I had never heard about before.



If international jewry was responsible for communism, why isn't Israel a communist state?


Probably because of the failure of the kibbutzim. By the 1980s, most had been privatized.


Israel has never been on a path toward communism. They've had a few liberal prime ministers over the years, but the idea that they've ever toyed with or considered communism is just utter bull*****
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Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

whiterock said:

The_barBEARian said:

Every day I read about a new jewish terror attack from the beginning of the 20th century that I had never heard about before.



If international jewry was responsible for communism, why isn't Israel a communist state?


Probably because of the failure of the kibbutzim. By the 1980s, most had been privatized.


Israel has never been on a path toward communism. They've had a few liberal prime ministers over the years, but the idea that they've ever toyed with or considered communism is just utter bull*****


You know, at this point you're just a Zionist shill.

Clearly, Israel history shows that many residents of that country held collectivist views, which is why there were some 275 Kibbutz formed. It's also clear that the decline in support for Labor and Meretz (forcing a merger) shows there are far fewer ones today than there used to be 75 years ago.

But you can't even discuss objective facts about Israeli history, or the US-Israeli relationship without interjecting a "Reeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Anti-semite!"
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Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

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Do you agree with him?

I cant say I disagree with JFK.




As I figured. What did you like best about him? How many Jews he killed?

I like Fanta. The euro fanta bc the American version is trash.
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muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:




Do you agree with him?

I cant say I disagree with JFK.




As I figured. What did you like best about him? How many Jews he killed?

I like Fanta. The euro fanta bc the American version is trash.

Is the American version made by Jews?

Seriously, you can't tell everyone why you like and/or respect Hitler, and think he's a legend?

Huh. Never figured you for a coward.
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Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:




Do you agree with him?

I cant say I disagree with JFK.




As I figured. What did you like best about him? How many Jews he killed?

I like Fanta. The euro fanta bc the American version is trash.

Is the American version made by Jews?

Seriously, you can't tell everyone why you like and/or respect Hitler, and think he's a legend?

Huh. Never figured you for a coward.

I wouldnt say I like him. I do like Rommel and the Wehrmacht was a good army. I like German shepherds too.
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Realitybites said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

whiterock said:

The_barBEARian said:

Every day I read about a new jewish terror attack from the beginning of the 20th century that I had never heard about before.



If international jewry was responsible for communism, why isn't Israel a communist state?


Probably because of the failure of the kibbutzim. By the 1980s, most had been privatized.


Israel has never been on a path toward communism. They've had a few liberal prime ministers over the years, but the idea that they've ever toyed with or considered communism is just utter bull*****


You know, at this point you're just a Zionist shill.

Clearly, Israel history shows that many residents of that country held collectivist views, which is why there were some 275 Kibbutz formed. It's also clear that the decline in support for Labor and Meretz (forcing a merger) shows there are far fewer ones today than there used to be 75 years ago.

But you can't even discuss objective facts about Israeli history, or the US-Israeli relationship without interjecting a "Reeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Anti-semite!"

And you're an uninformed, pseudo-intellectual Sam Lowry starter kit. You just lack his intellect, and unlike him, will run from a debate (probably for the same reason).

Refuting the bull**** you spew on these boards on a daily basis is like shooting fish in a barrel. At no point in Israel's 70 plus year history was communism or socialism ever considered by any majority of the population. And suggesting otherwise is just one of the many lies you tell on these boards.

Stating undisputed fact typically doesn't make one a Zionist. It's just stating fact. Just like believing replacement theory is complete and utter bull**** is stating fact, and doesn't make one a Zionist.

I remember when I was young, and full of piss and vinegar such as yourself. I hope it dissipates, and you can speak rationally at some point in the future.
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muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:




Do you agree with him?

I cant say I disagree with JFK.




As I figured. What did you like best about him? How many Jews he killed?

I like Fanta. The euro fanta bc the American version is trash.

Is the American version made by Jews?

Seriously, you can't tell everyone why you like and/or respect Hitler, and think he's a legend?

Huh. Never figured you for a coward.

I wouldnt say I like him. I do like Rommel and the Wehrmacht was a good army. I like German shepherds too.

So, don't necessarily "like" him, but respect and admire? What did you respect and admire about Hitler?

German shepherds are great dogs. I love German food, and make a mean schnitzel.

Liking and respecting Nazis on the other hand? Just a tad bit different muddy.
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Well, this will be triggering for some of our resident Jew dislikers, but Shapiro is spot on with a brutal takedown of both Candace Owens and the pudgy, doughboy, Tucker Carlson:

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Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Bruisers Burner Phone said:

The_barBEARian said:


Churchill was the chief villain of WW2.



Aaaand you can stop reading there.

Tucker Carlson version of 'history for the weak minded'

Certainly it is podcaster Daryl Cooper's view of history, and Tucker seems to buy it hook, line, and sinker.

I've listened to Cooper and read Buchanan's book many years ago, and from what I recall of Buchanan and my understanding of Cooper's position, they are focused on what was essentially Churchill's unwillingness to agree to Hitler's desire to expand and conquer much of Eastern Europe. I know Buchanan didn't like the treatment of Germany post WWI, and posits that had Churchill been willing to allow Germany to conquer Eastern Europe, then a global conflict would likely not have happened, and the Holocaust would likely not have happened, because the Final Solution was a product of Hitler feeling the noose tightening.

Of course, what Buchanan ignores is that the Nazis' occupation of Poland was exceptionally brutal from the get-go. The Nazis targeted the educated Polish, including the teachers, clergy, doctors and govt. leaders, executing tens of thousands of them. They also had disdain for the Slavic background of the Polish, considering them an inferior race, which is why they killed millions of them indiscriminately. It is estimated that in addition to the 3 million Polish Jews who were exterminated at the hands of the Nazis, approximately 2 million ethnic Poles were likewise executed. This genocide began long before Hitler's Final Solution was put into effect, which of course completely undermines Buchanan's position. Hitler had plans to march through the rest of Eastern Europe and do the same thing as he did in Poland, and undoubtedly would have done so if not met with resistance.

Now, Buchanan is correct that Hitler didn't want war with GB. Indeed, he was a fan of Anglophiles (feeling they were also a superior race), and didn't have the disdain for them that he had for the Slavs and Jews, who he felt could be killed with abandon. So, in a sense, Buchanan is right that Churchill's refusal to allow Germany to march across Eastern Europe is what contributed to WWII becoming a global conflict. But it is an extremely ethnocentric (and, quite frankly, despicable) view in which Buchanan essentially demonstrated that it was more important in his mind for the Anglophiles to unite instead of war with one another. And that was more important than a few million dead Slavs and Jews.

Of course, you can see why it has so many fans on this board.

Buchanan's point is that Poland was either going to the Nazis or the communists. Both were brutal, but there was nothing we could do about it. That has nothing to do with why we fought the war.

Just FYI, we did something about it.

And sure it does. It was the catalyst that led GB's involvement, and helped turn the regional war into a more global conflict.

There was nothing we could do about it. Poland became part of the Eastern Bloc, and so it remained until the end of the Cold War.

Again, we DID do something about it. And while Poland became part of the Eastern Bloc, it doesn't change the fact that GB went to war with Germany in large part because of its invasion of Poland. These are undisputed facts.

Now, was it ultimately successful in freeing Poland from any type of foreign interference? No. Was it a foolish thing to go to war because of Hitler's invasion of Poland? Perhaps. Should we have pushed back on the Soviet Union instead of allowing it to vastly expand its territory? I believe so. But these are different arguments that don't change any of the facts I said above, regardless of what you feel about whether it was a foolish endeavor.

Moreover, from what I recall of Buchanan's book, he assumed that Hitler would stop there, when there was pretty substantial evidence that his plans included incorporating much of Eastern Europe into Germany. There wasn't much evidence to suggest that Hitler's territorial ambitions ended with occupying Poland, and we saw that first hand given his behavior for the rest of the war.

Buchanan's point is that either the Germans or the Russians were going to take Poland. Nothing we did changed that. So while you might assume it was unthinkable to walk away and let Poland fall under tyranny, and that therefore we had no choice but to enter the war, the end result was always going to be the same.

Buchanan may have been right. But he also may have been wrong.

As for me, I've offered no opinion on the subject of whether it was a poor decision or the correct one. I've simply commented on the reason it expanded into a world war, and the invasion of Poland was certainly the catalyst.

There is also no question in my mind that Buchanan's view was affected by his ethnocentrism.

Poland was a catalyst in the true sense, as it precipitated the event without any change in its own fate. The real action and reaction were elsewhere.


What's crazy is it took this many posts for you to come out and agree with my original statement.

Ever the obtuse contrarian. You waste so much bandwidth.
Again, the pearl-clutching over Poland is a poor substitute for analysis. Buchanan and others have debunked the myth that we entered the war to liberate Eastern Europe.
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Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

whiterock said:

The_barBEARian said:

Every day I read about a new jewish terror attack from the beginning of the 20th century that I had never heard about before.



If international jewry was responsible for communism, why isn't Israel a communist state?


Probably because of the failure of the kibbutzim. By the 1980s, most had been privatized.


Israel has never been on a path toward communism. They've had a few liberal prime ministers over the years, but the idea that they've ever toyed with or considered communism is just utter bull*****


You know, at this point you're just a Zionist shill.

Clearly, Israel history shows that many residents of that country held collectivist views, which is why there were some 275 Kibbutz formed. It's also clear that the decline in support for Labor and Meretz (forcing a merger) shows there are far fewer ones today than there used to be 75 years ago.

But you can't even discuss objective facts about Israeli history, or the US-Israeli relationship without interjecting a "Reeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Anti-semite!"

And you're an uninformed, pseudo-intellectual Sam Lowry starter kit. You just lack his intellect, and unlike him, will run from a debate (probably for the same reason).

Refuting the bull**** you spew on these boards on a daily basis is like shooting fish in a barrel. At no point in Israel's 70 plus year history was communism or socialism ever considered by any majority of the population. And suggesting otherwise is just one of the many lies you tell on these boards.

Stating undisputed fact typically doesn't make one a Zionist. It's just stating fact. Just like believing replacement theory is complete and utter bull**** is stating fact, and doesn't make one a Zionist.

I remember when I was young, and full of piss and vinegar such as yourself. I hope it dissipates, and you can speak rationally at some point in the future.
Socialism was the dominant ideology of the Zionist movement from the early 20th century until the rise of the Likud Party in the 1970s. That doesn't make the scapegoating of Jews any less wrong or ridiculous, but it is a historical fact.
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Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Bruisers Burner Phone said:

The_barBEARian said:


Churchill was the chief villain of WW2.



Aaaand you can stop reading there.

Tucker Carlson version of 'history for the weak minded'

Certainly it is podcaster Daryl Cooper's view of history, and Tucker seems to buy it hook, line, and sinker.

I've listened to Cooper and read Buchanan's book many years ago, and from what I recall of Buchanan and my understanding of Cooper's position, they are focused on what was essentially Churchill's unwillingness to agree to Hitler's desire to expand and conquer much of Eastern Europe. I know Buchanan didn't like the treatment of Germany post WWI, and posits that had Churchill been willing to allow Germany to conquer Eastern Europe, then a global conflict would likely not have happened, and the Holocaust would likely not have happened, because the Final Solution was a product of Hitler feeling the noose tightening.

Of course, what Buchanan ignores is that the Nazis' occupation of Poland was exceptionally brutal from the get-go. The Nazis targeted the educated Polish, including the teachers, clergy, doctors and govt. leaders, executing tens of thousands of them. They also had disdain for the Slavic background of the Polish, considering them an inferior race, which is why they killed millions of them indiscriminately. It is estimated that in addition to the 3 million Polish Jews who were exterminated at the hands of the Nazis, approximately 2 million ethnic Poles were likewise executed. This genocide began long before Hitler's Final Solution was put into effect, which of course completely undermines Buchanan's position. Hitler had plans to march through the rest of Eastern Europe and do the same thing as he did in Poland, and undoubtedly would have done so if not met with resistance.

Now, Buchanan is correct that Hitler didn't want war with GB. Indeed, he was a fan of Anglophiles (feeling they were also a superior race), and didn't have the disdain for them that he had for the Slavs and Jews, who he felt could be killed with abandon. So, in a sense, Buchanan is right that Churchill's refusal to allow Germany to march across Eastern Europe is what contributed to WWII becoming a global conflict. But it is an extremely ethnocentric (and, quite frankly, despicable) view in which Buchanan essentially demonstrated that it was more important in his mind for the Anglophiles to unite instead of war with one another. And that was more important than a few million dead Slavs and Jews.

Of course, you can see why it has so many fans on this board.

Buchanan's point is that Poland was either going to the Nazis or the communists. Both were brutal, but there was nothing we could do about it. That has nothing to do with why we fought the war.

Just FYI, we did something about it.

And sure it does. It was the catalyst that led GB's involvement, and helped turn the regional war into a more global conflict.

There was nothing we could do about it. Poland became part of the Eastern Bloc, and so it remained until the end of the Cold War.

Again, we DID do something about it. And while Poland became part of the Eastern Bloc, it doesn't change the fact that GB went to war with Germany in large part because of its invasion of Poland. These are undisputed facts.

Now, was it ultimately successful in freeing Poland from any type of foreign interference? No. Was it a foolish thing to go to war because of Hitler's invasion of Poland? Perhaps. Should we have pushed back on the Soviet Union instead of allowing it to vastly expand its territory? I believe so. But these are different arguments that don't change any of the facts I said above, regardless of what you feel about whether it was a foolish endeavor.

Moreover, from what I recall of Buchanan's book, he assumed that Hitler would stop there, when there was pretty substantial evidence that his plans included incorporating much of Eastern Europe into Germany. There wasn't much evidence to suggest that Hitler's territorial ambitions ended with occupying Poland, and we saw that first hand given his behavior for the rest of the war.

Buchanan's point is that either the Germans or the Russians were going to take Poland. Nothing we did changed that. So while you might assume it was unthinkable to walk away and let Poland fall under tyranny, and that therefore we had no choice but to enter the war, the end result was always going to be the same.

Buchanan may have been right. But he also may have been wrong.

As for me, I've offered no opinion on the subject of whether it was a poor decision or the correct one. I've simply commented on the reason it expanded into a world war, and the invasion of Poland was certainly the catalyst.

There is also no question in my mind that Buchanan's view was affected by his ethnocentrism.

Poland was a catalyst in the true sense, as it precipitated the event without any change in its own fate. The real action and reaction were elsewhere.


What's crazy is it took this many posts for you to come out and agree with my original statement.

Ever the obtuse contrarian. You waste so much bandwidth.

Again, the pearl-clutching over Poland is a poor substitute for analysis. Buchanan and others have debunked the myth that we entered the war to liberate Eastern Europe.

Who is pearl-clutching over Poland? Who said we entered the war to liberate Eastern Europe?

Not I. This is what you would call a straw man.
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whiterock said:

The_barBEARian said:

Every day I read about a new jewish terror attack from the beginning of the 20th century that I had never heard about before.



If international jewry was responsible for communism, why isn't Israel a communist state?


Communism is just a tool used to take power... just bcs they promoted communism doesnt mean they actually believe in it.

They certainly dont have any shame about taking other countries money, which is a very communist attitude to take.

They've sucked Germany dry with a trillion in reparations and sucked US tax payers dry for another trillion by exploiting the vulnerabilities in the US political system.
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Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

whiterock said:

The_barBEARian said:

Every day I read about a new jewish terror attack from the beginning of the 20th century that I had never heard about before.



If international jewry was responsible for communism, why isn't Israel a communist state?


Probably because of the failure of the kibbutzim. By the 1980s, most had been privatized.


Israel has never been on a path toward communism. They've had a few liberal prime ministers over the years, but the idea that they've ever toyed with or considered communism is just utter bull*****


You know, at this point you're just a Zionist shill.

Clearly, Israel history shows that many residents of that country held collectivist views, which is why there were some 275 Kibbutz formed. It's also clear that the decline in support for Labor and Meretz (forcing a merger) shows there are far fewer ones today than there used to be 75 years ago.

But you can't even discuss objective facts about Israeli history, or the US-Israeli relationship without interjecting a "Reeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Anti-semite!"

And you're an uninformed, pseudo-intellectual Sam Lowry starter kit. You just lack his intellect, and unlike him, will run from a debate (probably for the same reason).

Refuting the bull**** you spew on these boards on a daily basis is like shooting fish in a barrel. At no point in Israel's 70 plus year history was communism or socialism ever considered by any majority of the population. And suggesting otherwise is just one of the many lies you tell on these boards.

Stating undisputed fact typically doesn't make one a Zionist. It's just stating fact. Just like believing replacement theory is complete and utter bull**** is stating fact, and doesn't make one a Zionist.

I remember when I was young, and full of piss and vinegar such as yourself. I hope it dissipates, and you can speak rationally at some point in the future.

Socialism was the dominant ideology of the Zionist movement from the early 20th century until the rise of the Likud Party in the 1970s. That doesn't make the scapegoating of Jews any less wrong or ridiculous, but it is a historical fact.

I don't disagree that some of the early Zionists were strong advocates of socialist ideology. But that is a different argument altogether, and certainly doesn't refute any of my positions.
 
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