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whiterock said:

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boognish_bear said:

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THOMAS MASSIE EXPOSES AIPAC:

“AIPAC is very persuasive. If you look at my colleagues' feeds now, they all look the same, they're all tweeting the same message.”

He’s 100% right. pic.twitter.com/eAE96H9wt2

— ADAM (@AdameMedia) February 16, 2026

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it's really, really easy to stay on message when the message conforms to reality, which in this case is that Israel's interests and ours are usually closely aligned, and that Israel as a policy proxy is a tremendous bang for the buck.

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It's not a question of cooperating with other nations when interests align.

It's a question of politicians who are supposed to represent the interests of American citizens giving a foreign nation billions of dollars so they can collect a commission and acting against the interests of those citizens.

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false dilemma. the interests of American citizens and Israeli citizens are closely aligned on a broad number of foreign policy matters, and Israel repeatedly puts its sons & daughters in harm's way in pursuit of those policy interests (which of course means American sons & daughters don't have to).

It's quite difficult to find a foreign policy investment which has generated as much positive impact as our aid to Israel. One must be quite the isolationist not to see the benefits of it.

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Nobody under 40 believes this propaganda.

I cant think of a single way my life has improved bcs Boomers spent my entire life worshipping Israel and blowing up our national debt to historic, unrecoverable levels.

If Israel is the bang for our buck you say they are, now is the time for a ROI... this country needs the money!

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everyone goes thru a young and stupid phase.
most grow out of it.

You are making a childish faulty assumption that nothing abroad matters to us. Nothing could be further from the truth.

To the extent that one wishes to not get directly involved solving a whole bunch of minor potential threats, so as to save powder for manifest larger threats, then one needs highly motivated and capable allies to do the work instead. And in that role, few allies of anyone at any time in history have been more cost-effective than Israel.

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lol. As we are literally about to fight another costly and pointless war for Israel with Iran... Israel didn't send a single troop to Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, or Afganistan.... with allies like these, who needs enemies?

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Such a profoundly dumb comment. Israel is a tiny country with an existential war to fight every single day surrounded by a vast array hostiles. Moreover, only an idiot would send Jewish troops to help occupy an islamic country. Would be highly inflammatory to Arab sensibilities, making pacification as well as broader coalition building harder.

We do not need any Israeli encouragement to bomb the hell out of Iran to the point of regime change. It is long, long overdue, for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with Israel. I do appreciate their help, however. They're pretty damned capable and are usually willing to do the riskiest parts of the mission so we don't have to.

It's like you completely missed that time Iran held our diplomats hostages for over a year. or that time Iranian proxies bombed the Marine barracks in Beirut. or that Iranian terrorism has purposely killed thousands of Americans. But no. You love you some Iranians. Probably because they killed or ran off all their Jews. It's always about the Jew, for you.

Where does all this hate come from....did a Jew steal your wife or something?

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Why the hell would anyone be interested in bombing Iran for the sole reason of regime change? Our involvement in this conflict has everything to do with Israel. It's the reason Bibi keeps coming back to the Whitehouse

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have you been asleep in a cave somewhere since 1980?

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Are you Jewish?

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no, but why would that matter? The issues are the issues. The interests are the interests. Religion really doesn't have much to do with it, except for the Middle East, where rabid anti-semitism occludes all reason. Even then, we find a way to work with both Arabs and Jews on common interests. Countries do typically work on common interests, regardless how other stuff lines up. That's how you find Israel partnering with the USA but allying with Azerbaijan against Armenia.....why is that? Because the Azeris hate the Iranians. The Iranians know this and ally with the Armenians. Ergo, Israel has more in common with a country full of muslims than country full of Christians. Religion is LESS important than national interest.

You Israel haters here sound exactly like all those 80-range IQ arabs I worked around overseas. One crude Jewish trope after another. That "running of the Jew" scene in Borat was the funniest part of the entire movie because it fairly accurately represents the caricaturish nature of Arab antisemitism (and yours).

Geopoltics is not hard to understand, but one does have to try.

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That's your problem, you assume anyone who disagrees with you is uneducated or an anti-semite. Perhaps most Americans are tired of playing in the sandbox and want to focus on issues stateside. The sandbox is lost cause and Bibi's endless visits to the WH have made it clear why we are still involved over there…

Quick question. Do you understand sea lanes and trade routes at all?

Your phobia of Jews seems to suggest the answer is no.

Only leftists believe America goes to war over sea lanes and trade routes. We fight for democracy and democracy alone...or so I'm told.

Oldbear83 said:

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Quick question. Do you understand sea lanes and trade routes at all?

Your phobia of Jews seems to suggest the answer is no.

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Explain it to us Boomer.

I want you to quantify exactly how many dollars the United States generates in economic benefit from these sea lanes and trade routes.

Then subtract the billions of dollars of printed money that we flood into the region on an annual basis propping up half the countries there.

I want hard numbers.

And I want to know where the money we make goes.

We have increased our spending and presence in the region exponentially over my adult life and the only number that truly matter, our national debt, has continuous skyrocketed to historic end-of-empire levels.

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I'm going to make a prediction. Once we knock off Iran on behalf of bibi and the zios then Turkey will be the next problem that we will need handle for them. I wonder who will be after that.

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yeah, Turkey is indeed a potential problem, because it does see itself as the rightful predominant power in the Mediterranean and Arab peninsula. Erdogan is working steadily toward that aim. He overstepped a bit in Syria, installing a pro-Turkish proxy that is discomfitting to allies.* But there are an array of counter-balances. Saudi Arabia is a counter-balance. Egypt is a counter-balance. Nato is a counter-balance. For that matter, Russia is a counter-balance (regardless of US/Russia relations). Same for Iran. It's a counter-balance to Turkish policy whether it is friendly toward us or not. Nothing remarkable about any of that. It's geopolitics. And in in this particular area, the basic pieces have been at play for millennia.

Our interest is not to dominate anything, but rather to prevent any of those powers from doing so. Israel is an incredibly useful tool in that regard. They take most of the risk. Do most of the hard work. We get the benefit. It's a shame so many people let old hatreds and faulty premises blind them to good policy at work.

*but our troops are coming home, so perhaps the regime in Damascus isn't so unpalatable as it might have at first appeared.

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I dont have any old hatreds and was a typical evangelical bapist type until I became an Anglican and now I kind of want to be catholic. I have started noticing how the zionists and the bolshevik type jews operate and they both hate Christ and have a 2000 year old blood fued against Rome aka Christendom. Bibi himself admitted as much. I have seen debates with several different jews and they even said they prefer muslims to Christians. I have several friends that are jewish so obvioulsy i dont really discuss these topics. Theyre good people and very smart but theyre also way more liberal but I always enjoy hearing their perspectives. They are the atheist types and I dont really want to get into any sort of theological discussions with them so as not to offend. I dont know any muslims and im not really looking to meet any of them bc I like dogs, bacon and bourbon...lol.

I do not trust bibi and Isreal one bit. They did lie about wmds, they did have prior knowledge of 911 (all of them luckily got the memo to not be at the tower that day) and they do use and abuse us.

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so you're saying some Jews hate Christians just like you and barBEARean hate Jews?

I have a hunting buddy who's Jewish. He runs an enormous business that is overwhelmingly staffed by Christians. His CEO is a Christian. His best friend is a Christian. Vast majority of his friends are Christians. Nearly all of his vendors and customers are Christians. And put him in any group/organization you want, he'll probably end up in leadership of it. Not because he's Jewish. Because he's a born leader. Despite all of his talents, like most Jews, he thinks Christians are a bit wacko for elevating the Jesus guy to mythical status. Nothing abnormal about that.

Here's a tip: to build a relationship with someone, you have to focus on what you have in common with someone rather than what you don't. Life is easier that way, and things usually make a lot more sense.

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Oldbear83 said:

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Quick question. Do you understand sea lanes and trade routes at all?

Your phobia of Jews seems to suggest the answer is no.

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Explain it to us Boomer.

I want you to quantify exactly how many dollars the United States generates in economic benefit from these sea lanes and trade routes.

Then subtract the billions of dollars of printed money that we flood into the region on an annual basis propping up half the countries there.

I want hard numbers.

And I want to know where the money we make goes.

We have increased our spending and presence in the region exponentially over my adult life and the only number that truly matter, our national debt, has continuous skyrocketed to historic end-of-empire levels.

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Trade is 14% of GDP.

Please explain how trade routes are irrelevant.

BigGameBaylorBear said:

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whiterock said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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whiterock said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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whiterock said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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whiterock said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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whiterock said:

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Realitybites said:

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whiterock said:

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boognish_bear said:

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THOMAS MASSIE EXPOSES AIPAC:

“AIPAC is very persuasive. If you look at my colleagues' feeds now, they all look the same, they're all tweeting the same message.”

He’s 100% right. pic.twitter.com/eAE96H9wt2

— ADAM (@AdameMedia) February 16, 2026

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it's really, really easy to stay on message when the message conforms to reality, which in this case is that Israel's interests and ours are usually closely aligned, and that Israel as a policy proxy is a tremendous bang for the buck.

---

It's not a question of cooperating with other nations when interests align.

It's a question of politicians who are supposed to represent the interests of American citizens giving a foreign nation billions of dollars so they can collect a commission and acting against the interests of those citizens.

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false dilemma. the interests of American citizens and Israeli citizens are closely aligned on a broad number of foreign policy matters, and Israel repeatedly puts its sons & daughters in harm's way in pursuit of those policy interests (which of course means American sons & daughters don't have to).

It's quite difficult to find a foreign policy investment which has generated as much positive impact as our aid to Israel. One must be quite the isolationist not to see the benefits of it.

---

Nobody under 40 believes this propaganda.

I cant think of a single way my life has improved bcs Boomers spent my entire life worshipping Israel and blowing up our national debt to historic, unrecoverable levels.

If Israel is the bang for our buck you say they are, now is the time for a ROI... this country needs the money!

---

everyone goes thru a young and stupid phase.
most grow out of it.

You are making a childish faulty assumption that nothing abroad matters to us. Nothing could be further from the truth.

To the extent that one wishes to not get directly involved solving a whole bunch of minor potential threats, so as to save powder for manifest larger threats, then one needs highly motivated and capable allies to do the work instead. And in that role, few allies of anyone at any time in history have been more cost-effective than Israel.

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lol. As we are literally about to fight another costly and pointless war for Israel with Iran... Israel didn't send a single troop to Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, or Afganistan.... with allies like these, who needs enemies?

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Such a profoundly dumb comment. Israel is a tiny country with an existential war to fight every single day surrounded by a vast array hostiles. Moreover, only an idiot would send Jewish troops to help occupy an islamic country. Would be highly inflammatory to Arab sensibilities, making pacification as well as broader coalition building harder.

We do not need any Israeli encouragement to bomb the hell out of Iran to the point of regime change. It is long, long overdue, for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with Israel. I do appreciate their help, however. They're pretty damned capable and are usually willing to do the riskiest parts of the mission so we don't have to.

It's like you completely missed that time Iran held our diplomats hostages for over a year. or that time Iranian proxies bombed the Marine barracks in Beirut. or that Iranian terrorism has purposely killed thousands of Americans. But no. You love you some Iranians. Probably because they killed or ran off all their Jews. It's always about the Jew, for you.

Where does all this hate come from....did a Jew steal your wife or something?

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Why the hell would anyone be interested in bombing Iran for the sole reason of regime change? Our involvement in this conflict has everything to do with Israel. It's the reason Bibi keeps coming back to the Whitehouse

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have you been asleep in a cave somewhere since 1980?

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Are you Jewish?

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no, but why would that matter? The issues are the issues. The interests are the interests. Religion really doesn't have much to do with it, except for the Middle East, where rabid anti-semitism occludes all reason. Even then, we find a way to work with both Arabs and Jews on common interests. Countries do typically work on common interests, regardless how other stuff lines up. That's how you find Israel partnering with the USA but allying with Azerbaijan against Armenia.....why is that? Because the Azeris hate the Iranians. The Iranians know this and ally with the Armenians. Ergo, Israel has more in common with a country full of muslims than country full of Christians. Religion is LESS important than national interest.

You Israel haters here sound exactly like all those 80-range IQ arabs I worked around overseas. One crude Jewish trope after another. That "running of the Jew" scene in Borat was the funniest part of the entire movie because it fairly accurately represents the caricaturish nature of Arab antisemitism (and yours).

Geopoltics is not hard to understand, but one does have to try.

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That's your problem, you assume anyone who disagrees with you is uneducated or an anti-semite. Perhaps most Americans are tired of playing in the sandbox and want to focus on issues stateside. The sandbox is lost cause and Bibi's endless visits to the WH have made it clear why we are still involved over there…

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I'm tired of playing in the sand box, too. That doesn't mean the sand box is irrelevant to us.

Remove Israel from the map. Tell us how that makes the world a better place. Tell us how that makes AQ go away. Tell us how that makes Iranian nuclear ballistic missiles go away. Tell us how it makes Turkey any less important to us (as a counter-balance to Russia). (and on and on and on....) The answer is, an Israel-free world makes none of those problems evaporate. Just harder to work on.

Anyone who think's Israel is responsible for all of our foreign policy missteps is profoundly uneducated. Latent anti-Semitism is the only plausible explanation for such lunacy.

Oldbear83 said:

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Quick question. Do you understand sea lanes and trade routes at all?

Your phobia of Jews seems to suggest the answer is no.

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Haven't you heard? Trade is a Jewish conspiracy to control the entire world!

Sam Lowry said:

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Only leftists believe America goes to war over sea lanes and trade routes. We fight for democracy and democracy alone...or so I'm told.

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LOL. Your strawmen are always funny.

BigGameBaylorBear said:

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whiterock said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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whiterock said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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whiterock said:

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Realitybites said:

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whiterock said:

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boognish_bear said:

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THOMAS MASSIE EXPOSES AIPAC:

“AIPAC is very persuasive. If you look at my colleagues' feeds now, they all look the same, they're all tweeting the same message.”

He’s 100% right. pic.twitter.com/eAE96H9wt2

— ADAM (@AdameMedia) February 16, 2026

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it's really, really easy to stay on message when the message conforms to reality, which in this case is that Israel's interests and ours are usually closely aligned, and that Israel as a policy proxy is a tremendous bang for the buck.

---

It's not a question of cooperating with other nations when interests align.

It's a question of politicians who are supposed to represent the interests of American citizens giving a foreign nation billions of dollars so they can collect a commission and acting against the interests of those citizens.

---

false dilemma. the interests of American citizens and Israeli citizens are closely aligned on a broad number of foreign policy matters, and Israel repeatedly puts its sons & daughters in harm's way in pursuit of those policy interests (which of course means American sons & daughters don't have to).

It's quite difficult to find a foreign policy investment which has generated as much positive impact as our aid to Israel. One must be quite the isolationist not to see the benefits of it.

---

Nobody under 40 believes this propaganda.

I cant think of a single way my life has improved bcs Boomers spent my entire life worshipping Israel and blowing up our national debt to historic, unrecoverable levels.

If Israel is the bang for our buck you say they are, now is the time for a ROI... this country needs the money!

---

everyone goes thru a young and stupid phase.
most grow out of it.

You are making a childish faulty assumption that nothing abroad matters to us. Nothing could be further from the truth.

To the extent that one wishes to not get directly involved solving a whole bunch of minor potential threats, so as to save powder for manifest larger threats, then one needs highly motivated and capable allies to do the work instead. And in that role, few allies of anyone at any time in history have been more cost-effective than Israel.

---

lol. As we are literally about to fight another costly and pointless war for Israel with Iran... Israel didn't send a single troop to Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, or Afganistan.... with allies like these, who needs enemies?

---

Such a profoundly dumb comment. Israel is a tiny country with an existential war to fight every single day surrounded by a vast array hostiles. Moreover, only an idiot would send Jewish troops to help occupy an islamic country. Would be highly inflammatory to Arab sensibilities, making pacification as well as broader coalition building harder.

We do not need any Israeli encouragement to bomb the hell out of Iran to the point of regime change. It is long, long overdue, for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with Israel. I do appreciate their help, however. They're pretty damned capable and are usually willing to do the riskiest parts of the mission so we don't have to.

It's like you completely missed that time Iran held our diplomats hostages for over a year. or that time Iranian proxies bombed the Marine barracks in Beirut. or that Iranian terrorism has purposely killed thousands of Americans. But no. You love you some Iranians. Probably because they killed or ran off all their Jews. It's always about the Jew, for you.

Where does all this hate come from....did a Jew steal your wife or something?

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Why the hell would anyone be interested in bombing Iran for the sole reason of regime change? Our involvement in this conflict has everything to do with Israel. It's the reason Bibi keeps coming back to the Whitehouse

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Well, I guess it depends. Is the regime the number one sponsor of state terrorism in the world today, exporting same around the globe?

⚡️🇺🇸🇮🇱JUST IN:

Reporter: "Should Israel be expected to even pay one penny to rebuild Gaza?"

The US ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee: "Absolutely not, & if anything, there ought to be reparations for Israel"pic.twitter.com/bj9GTBYkNo

— Suppressed News. (@SuppressedNws1) February 20, 2026

Let me guess, Americans will get to pay repararations. I'm sure huckleberry alreaedy agreed to that.

A Testimony About The Purging of Christians From The Holy Land

The testimony of a brother in Christ.

Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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whiterock said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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whiterock said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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whiterock said:

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Realitybites said:

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whiterock said:

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boognish_bear said:

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THOMAS MASSIE EXPOSES AIPAC:

“AIPAC is very persuasive. If you look at my colleagues' feeds now, they all look the same, they're all tweeting the same message.”

He’s 100% right. pic.twitter.com/eAE96H9wt2

— ADAM (@AdameMedia) February 16, 2026

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it's really, really easy to stay on message when the message conforms to reality, which in this case is that Israel's interests and ours are usually closely aligned, and that Israel as a policy proxy is a tremendous bang for the buck.

---

It's not a question of cooperating with other nations when interests align.

It's a question of politicians who are supposed to represent the interests of American citizens giving a foreign nation billions of dollars so they can collect a commission and acting against the interests of those citizens.

---

false dilemma. the interests of American citizens and Israeli citizens are closely aligned on a broad number of foreign policy matters, and Israel repeatedly puts its sons & daughters in harm's way in pursuit of those policy interests (which of course means American sons & daughters don't have to).

It's quite difficult to find a foreign policy investment which has generated as much positive impact as our aid to Israel. One must be quite the isolationist not to see the benefits of it.

---

Nobody under 40 believes this propaganda.

I cant think of a single way my life has improved bcs Boomers spent my entire life worshipping Israel and blowing up our national debt to historic, unrecoverable levels.

If Israel is the bang for our buck you say they are, now is the time for a ROI... this country needs the money!

---

everyone goes thru a young and stupid phase.
most grow out of it.

You are making a childish faulty assumption that nothing abroad matters to us. Nothing could be further from the truth.

To the extent that one wishes to not get directly involved solving a whole bunch of minor potential threats, so as to save powder for manifest larger threats, then one needs highly motivated and capable allies to do the work instead. And in that role, few allies of anyone at any time in history have been more cost-effective than Israel.

---

lol. As we are literally about to fight another costly and pointless war for Israel with Iran... Israel didn't send a single troop to Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, or Afganistan.... with allies like these, who needs enemies?

---

Such a profoundly dumb comment. Israel is a tiny country with an existential war to fight every single day surrounded by a vast array hostiles. Moreover, only an idiot would send Jewish troops to help occupy an islamic country. Would be highly inflammatory to Arab sensibilities, making pacification as well as broader coalition building harder.

We do not need any Israeli encouragement to bomb the hell out of Iran to the point of regime change. It is long, long overdue, for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with Israel. I do appreciate their help, however. They're pretty damned capable and are usually willing to do the riskiest parts of the mission so we don't have to.

It's like you completely missed that time Iran held our diplomats hostages for over a year. or that time Iranian proxies bombed the Marine barracks in Beirut. or that Iranian terrorism has purposely killed thousands of Americans. But no. You love you some Iranians. Probably because they killed or ran off all their Jews. It's always about the Jew, for you.

Where does all this hate come from....did a Jew steal your wife or something?

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Why the hell would anyone be interested in bombing Iran for the sole reason of regime change? Our involvement in this conflict has everything to do with Israel. It's the reason Bibi keeps coming back to the Whitehouse

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Well, I guess it depends. Is the regime the number one sponsor of state terrorism in the world today, exporting same around the globe?

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Not yet, but I suppose it could happen if we succeed in toppling the regime and replacing it with a bunch of fanatics like we did in Syria.

Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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whiterock said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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whiterock said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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whiterock said:

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Realitybites said:

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whiterock said:

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boognish_bear said:

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THOMAS MASSIE EXPOSES AIPAC:

“AIPAC is very persuasive. If you look at my colleagues' feeds now, they all look the same, they're all tweeting the same message.”

He’s 100% right. pic.twitter.com/eAE96H9wt2

— ADAM (@AdameMedia) February 16, 2026

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it's really, really easy to stay on message when the message conforms to reality, which in this case is that Israel's interests and ours are usually closely aligned, and that Israel as a policy proxy is a tremendous bang for the buck.

---

It's not a question of cooperating with other nations when interests align.

It's a question of politicians who are supposed to represent the interests of American citizens giving a foreign nation billions of dollars so they can collect a commission and acting against the interests of those citizens.

---

false dilemma. the interests of American citizens and Israeli citizens are closely aligned on a broad number of foreign policy matters, and Israel repeatedly puts its sons & daughters in harm's way in pursuit of those policy interests (which of course means American sons & daughters don't have to).

It's quite difficult to find a foreign policy investment which has generated as much positive impact as our aid to Israel. One must be quite the isolationist not to see the benefits of it.

---

Nobody under 40 believes this propaganda.

I cant think of a single way my life has improved bcs Boomers spent my entire life worshipping Israel and blowing up our national debt to historic, unrecoverable levels.

If Israel is the bang for our buck you say they are, now is the time for a ROI... this country needs the money!

---

everyone goes thru a young and stupid phase.
most grow out of it.

You are making a childish faulty assumption that nothing abroad matters to us. Nothing could be further from the truth.

To the extent that one wishes to not get directly involved solving a whole bunch of minor potential threats, so as to save powder for manifest larger threats, then one needs highly motivated and capable allies to do the work instead. And in that role, few allies of anyone at any time in history have been more cost-effective than Israel.

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lol. As we are literally about to fight another costly and pointless war for Israel with Iran... Israel didn't send a single troop to Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, or Afganistan.... with allies like these, who needs enemies?

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Such a profoundly dumb comment. Israel is a tiny country with an existential war to fight every single day surrounded by a vast array hostiles. Moreover, only an idiot would send Jewish troops to help occupy an islamic country. Would be highly inflammatory to Arab sensibilities, making pacification as well as broader coalition building harder.

We do not need any Israeli encouragement to bomb the hell out of Iran to the point of regime change. It is long, long overdue, for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with Israel. I do appreciate their help, however. They're pretty damned capable and are usually willing to do the riskiest parts of the mission so we don't have to.

It's like you completely missed that time Iran held our diplomats hostages for over a year. or that time Iranian proxies bombed the Marine barracks in Beirut. or that Iranian terrorism has purposely killed thousands of Americans. But no. You love you some Iranians. Probably because they killed or ran off all their Jews. It's always about the Jew, for you.

Where does all this hate come from....did a Jew steal your wife or something?

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Why the hell would anyone be interested in bombing Iran for the sole reason of regime change? Our involvement in this conflict has everything to do with Israel. It's the reason Bibi keeps coming back to the Whitehouse

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Well, I guess it depends. Is the regime the number one sponsor of state terrorism in the world today, exporting same around the globe?

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Not yet, but I suppose it could happen if we succeed in toppling the regime and replacing it with a bunch of fanatics like we did in Syria.

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To the contrary, they achieved that distinction years ago.

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202412132588

I know you're proud.

Oldbear83 said:

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Quick question. Do you understand sea lanes and trade routes at all?

Your phobia of Jews seems to suggest the answer is no.

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Okay so you clearly have no idea what's going on right now.

While the Strait is important, this current conflict has little to do with trade than it does Irans nuclear program and how it threatens Israel. Trade is a mere byproduct of it.

And sure enough youre back to throwing insults around when someone disagrees with you (taken right out of the left's playbook). It really weakens your argument

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whiterock said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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whiterock said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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whiterock said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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whiterock said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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whiterock said:

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Realitybites said:

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whiterock said:

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boognish_bear said:

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THOMAS MASSIE EXPOSES AIPAC:

“AIPAC is very persuasive. If you look at my colleagues' feeds now, they all look the same, they're all tweeting the same message.”

He’s 100% right. pic.twitter.com/eAE96H9wt2

— ADAM (@AdameMedia) February 16, 2026

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it's really, really easy to stay on message when the message conforms to reality, which in this case is that Israel's interests and ours are usually closely aligned, and that Israel as a policy proxy is a tremendous bang for the buck.

---

It's not a question of cooperating with other nations when interests align.

It's a question of politicians who are supposed to represent the interests of American citizens giving a foreign nation billions of dollars so they can collect a commission and acting against the interests of those citizens.

---

false dilemma. the interests of American citizens and Israeli citizens are closely aligned on a broad number of foreign policy matters, and Israel repeatedly puts its sons & daughters in harm's way in pursuit of those policy interests (which of course means American sons & daughters don't have to).

It's quite difficult to find a foreign policy investment which has generated as much positive impact as our aid to Israel. One must be quite the isolationist not to see the benefits of it.

---

Nobody under 40 believes this propaganda.

I cant think of a single way my life has improved bcs Boomers spent my entire life worshipping Israel and blowing up our national debt to historic, unrecoverable levels.

If Israel is the bang for our buck you say they are, now is the time for a ROI... this country needs the money!

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everyone goes thru a young and stupid phase.
most grow out of it.

You are making a childish faulty assumption that nothing abroad matters to us. Nothing could be further from the truth.

To the extent that one wishes to not get directly involved solving a whole bunch of minor potential threats, so as to save powder for manifest larger threats, then one needs highly motivated and capable allies to do the work instead. And in that role, few allies of anyone at any time in history have been more cost-effective than Israel.

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lol. As we are literally about to fight another costly and pointless war for Israel with Iran... Israel didn't send a single troop to Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, or Afganistan.... with allies like these, who needs enemies?

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Such a profoundly dumb comment. Israel is a tiny country with an existential war to fight every single day surrounded by a vast array hostiles. Moreover, only an idiot would send Jewish troops to help occupy an islamic country. Would be highly inflammatory to Arab sensibilities, making pacification as well as broader coalition building harder.

We do not need any Israeli encouragement to bomb the hell out of Iran to the point of regime change. It is long, long overdue, for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with Israel. I do appreciate their help, however. They're pretty damned capable and are usually willing to do the riskiest parts of the mission so we don't have to.

It's like you completely missed that time Iran held our diplomats hostages for over a year. or that time Iranian proxies bombed the Marine barracks in Beirut. or that Iranian terrorism has purposely killed thousands of Americans. But no. You love you some Iranians. Probably because they killed or ran off all their Jews. It's always about the Jew, for you.

Where does all this hate come from....did a Jew steal your wife or something?

---

Why the hell would anyone be interested in bombing Iran for the sole reason of regime change? Our involvement in this conflict has everything to do with Israel. It's the reason Bibi keeps coming back to the Whitehouse

---

have you been asleep in a cave somewhere since 1980?

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Are you Jewish?

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no, but why would that matter? The issues are the issues. The interests are the interests. Religion really doesn't have much to do with it, except for the Middle East, where rabid anti-semitism occludes all reason. Even then, we find a way to work with both Arabs and Jews on common interests. Countries do typically work on common interests, regardless how other stuff lines up. That's how you find Israel partnering with the USA but allying with Azerbaijan against Armenia.....why is that? Because the Azeris hate the Iranians. The Iranians know this and ally with the Armenians. Ergo, Israel has more in common with a country full of muslims than country full of Christians. Religion is LESS important than national interest.

You Israel haters here sound exactly like all those 80-range IQ arabs I worked around overseas. One crude Jewish trope after another. That "running of the Jew" scene in Borat was the funniest part of the entire movie because it fairly accurately represents the caricaturish nature of Arab antisemitism (and yours).

Geopoltics is not hard to understand, but one does have to try.

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That's your problem, you assume anyone who disagrees with you is uneducated or an anti-semite. Perhaps most Americans are tired of playing in the sandbox and want to focus on issues stateside. The sandbox is lost cause and Bibi's endless visits to the WH have made it clear why we are still involved over there…

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I'm tired of playing in the sand box, too. That doesn't mean the sand box is irrelevant to us.

Remove Israel from the map. Tell us how that makes the world a better place. Tell us how that makes AQ go away. Tell us how that makes Iranian nuclear ballistic missiles go away. Tell us how it makes Turkey any less important to us (as a counter-balance to Russia). (and on and on and on....) The answer is, an Israel-free world makes none of those problems evaporate. Just harder to work on.

Anyone who think's Israel is responsible for all of our foreign policy missteps is profoundly uneducated. Latent anti-Semitism is the only plausible explanation for such lunacy.

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Oh yeah, you're definitely Jewish… it's so obvious. The way you continuously drool over "Israel's brave sons and daughters", or how you call someone anti-semitic anytime this disagree with our foreign policy. That or I'm severely underestimating the meat-riding Zio-Christians do for their rulers

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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whiterock said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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whiterock said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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whiterock said:

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Realitybites said:

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whiterock said:

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boognish_bear said:

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THOMAS MASSIE EXPOSES AIPAC:

“AIPAC is very persuasive. If you look at my colleagues' feeds now, they all look the same, they're all tweeting the same message.”

He’s 100% right. pic.twitter.com/eAE96H9wt2

— ADAM (@AdameMedia) February 16, 2026

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it's really, really easy to stay on message when the message conforms to reality, which in this case is that Israel's interests and ours are usually closely aligned, and that Israel as a policy proxy is a tremendous bang for the buck.

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It's not a question of cooperating with other nations when interests align.

It's a question of politicians who are supposed to represent the interests of American citizens giving a foreign nation billions of dollars so they can collect a commission and acting against the interests of those citizens.

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false dilemma. the interests of American citizens and Israeli citizens are closely aligned on a broad number of foreign policy matters, and Israel repeatedly puts its sons & daughters in harm's way in pursuit of those policy interests (which of course means American sons & daughters don't have to).

It's quite difficult to find a foreign policy investment which has generated as much positive impact as our aid to Israel. One must be quite the isolationist not to see the benefits of it.

---

Nobody under 40 believes this propaganda.

I cant think of a single way my life has improved bcs Boomers spent my entire life worshipping Israel and blowing up our national debt to historic, unrecoverable levels.

If Israel is the bang for our buck you say they are, now is the time for a ROI... this country needs the money!

---

everyone goes thru a young and stupid phase.
most grow out of it.

You are making a childish faulty assumption that nothing abroad matters to us. Nothing could be further from the truth.

To the extent that one wishes to not get directly involved solving a whole bunch of minor potential threats, so as to save powder for manifest larger threats, then one needs highly motivated and capable allies to do the work instead. And in that role, few allies of anyone at any time in history have been more cost-effective than Israel.

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lol. As we are literally about to fight another costly and pointless war for Israel with Iran... Israel didn't send a single troop to Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, or Afganistan.... with allies like these, who needs enemies?

---

Such a profoundly dumb comment. Israel is a tiny country with an existential war to fight every single day surrounded by a vast array hostiles. Moreover, only an idiot would send Jewish troops to help occupy an islamic country. Would be highly inflammatory to Arab sensibilities, making pacification as well as broader coalition building harder.

We do not need any Israeli encouragement to bomb the hell out of Iran to the point of regime change. It is long, long overdue, for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with Israel. I do appreciate their help, however. They're pretty damned capable and are usually willing to do the riskiest parts of the mission so we don't have to.

It's like you completely missed that time Iran held our diplomats hostages for over a year. or that time Iranian proxies bombed the Marine barracks in Beirut. or that Iranian terrorism has purposely killed thousands of Americans. But no. You love you some Iranians. Probably because they killed or ran off all their Jews. It's always about the Jew, for you.

Where does all this hate come from....did a Jew steal your wife or something?

---

Why the hell would anyone be interested in bombing Iran for the sole reason of regime change? Our involvement in this conflict has everything to do with Israel. It's the reason Bibi keeps coming back to the Whitehouse

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Well, I guess it depends. Is the regime the number one sponsor of state terrorism in the world today, exporting same around the globe?

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Not yet, but I suppose it could happen if we succeed in toppling the regime and replacing it with a bunch of fanatics like we did in Syria.

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To the contrary, they achieved that distinction years ago.

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202412132588

I know you're proud.

---

We've all heard the propaganda, thanks.

---

Predictable response. Anytime the US says it, it's propaganda, while the dictators and despots are credible and to be believed.

Same old Sam. Your country is always the bad guy, while Putin fights Just Wars.

LOL.

BigGameBaylorBear said:

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whiterock said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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whiterock said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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whiterock said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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whiterock said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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whiterock said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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whiterock said:

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Realitybites said:

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whiterock said:

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boognish_bear said:

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THOMAS MASSIE EXPOSES AIPAC:

“AIPAC is very persuasive. If you look at my colleagues' feeds now, they all look the same, they're all tweeting the same message.”

He’s 100% right. pic.twitter.com/eAE96H9wt2

— ADAM (@AdameMedia) February 16, 2026

---

it's really, really easy to stay on message when the message conforms to reality, which in this case is that Israel's interests and ours are usually closely aligned, and that Israel as a policy proxy is a tremendous bang for the buck.

---

It's not a question of cooperating with other nations when interests align.

It's a question of politicians who are supposed to represent the interests of American citizens giving a foreign nation billions of dollars so they can collect a commission and acting against the interests of those citizens.

---

false dilemma. the interests of American citizens and Israeli citizens are closely aligned on a broad number of foreign policy matters, and Israel repeatedly puts its sons & daughters in harm's way in pursuit of those policy interests (which of course means American sons & daughters don't have to).

It's quite difficult to find a foreign policy investment which has generated as much positive impact as our aid to Israel. One must be quite the isolationist not to see the benefits of it.

---

Nobody under 40 believes this propaganda.

I cant think of a single way my life has improved bcs Boomers spent my entire life worshipping Israel and blowing up our national debt to historic, unrecoverable levels.

If Israel is the bang for our buck you say they are, now is the time for a ROI... this country needs the money!

---

everyone goes thru a young and stupid phase.
most grow out of it.

You are making a childish faulty assumption that nothing abroad matters to us. Nothing could be further from the truth.

To the extent that one wishes to not get directly involved solving a whole bunch of minor potential threats, so as to save powder for manifest larger threats, then one needs highly motivated and capable allies to do the work instead. And in that role, few allies of anyone at any time in history have been more cost-effective than Israel.

---

lol. As we are literally about to fight another costly and pointless war for Israel with Iran... Israel didn't send a single troop to Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, or Afganistan.... with allies like these, who needs enemies?

---

Such a profoundly dumb comment. Israel is a tiny country with an existential war to fight every single day surrounded by a vast array hostiles. Moreover, only an idiot would send Jewish troops to help occupy an islamic country. Would be highly inflammatory to Arab sensibilities, making pacification as well as broader coalition building harder.

We do not need any Israeli encouragement to bomb the hell out of Iran to the point of regime change. It is long, long overdue, for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with Israel. I do appreciate their help, however. They're pretty damned capable and are usually willing to do the riskiest parts of the mission so we don't have to.

It's like you completely missed that time Iran held our diplomats hostages for over a year. or that time Iranian proxies bombed the Marine barracks in Beirut. or that Iranian terrorism has purposely killed thousands of Americans. But no. You love you some Iranians. Probably because they killed or ran off all their Jews. It's always about the Jew, for you.

Where does all this hate come from....did a Jew steal your wife or something?

---

Why the hell would anyone be interested in bombing Iran for the sole reason of regime change? Our involvement in this conflict has everything to do with Israel. It's the reason Bibi keeps coming back to the Whitehouse

---

have you been asleep in a cave somewhere since 1980?

---

Are you Jewish?

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no, but why would that matter? The issues are the issues. The interests are the interests. Religion really doesn't have much to do with it, except for the Middle East, where rabid anti-semitism occludes all reason. Even then, we find a way to work with both Arabs and Jews on common interests. Countries do typically work on common interests, regardless how other stuff lines up. That's how you find Israel partnering with the USA but allying with Azerbaijan against Armenia.....why is that? Because the Azeris hate the Iranians. The Iranians know this and ally with the Armenians. Ergo, Israel has more in common with a country full of muslims than country full of Christians. Religion is LESS important than national interest.

You Israel haters here sound exactly like all those 80-range IQ arabs I worked around overseas. One crude Jewish trope after another. That "running of the Jew" scene in Borat was the funniest part of the entire movie because it fairly accurately represents the caricaturish nature of Arab antisemitism (and yours).

Geopoltics is not hard to understand, but one does have to try.

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That's your problem, you assume anyone who disagrees with you is uneducated or an anti-semite. Perhaps most Americans are tired of playing in the sandbox and want to focus on issues stateside. The sandbox is lost cause and Bibi's endless visits to the WH have made it clear why we are still involved over there…

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I'm tired of playing in the sand box, too. That doesn't mean the sand box is irrelevant to us.

Remove Israel from the map. Tell us how that makes the world a better place. Tell us how that makes AQ go away. Tell us how that makes Iranian nuclear ballistic missiles go away. Tell us how it makes Turkey any less important to us (as a counter-balance to Russia). (and on and on and on....) The answer is, an Israel-free world makes none of those problems evaporate. Just harder to work on.

Anyone who think's Israel is responsible for all of our foreign policy missteps is profoundly uneducated. Latent anti-Semitism is the only plausible explanation for such lunacy.

---

Oh yeah, you're definitely Jewish… it's so obvious. The way you continuously drool over "Israel's brave sons and daughters", or how you call someone anti-semitic anytime this disagree with our foreign policy. That or I'm severely underestimating the meat-riding Zio-Christians do for their rulers

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If believing Israel is generally a force for good makes one a Zionist, then believing it's a force for evil must mean you hate Jews?

I'd suggest there are gradients in between those two extremes. But this new brand of "conservative" sure does sound a lot like the woke left.

Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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whiterock said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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whiterock said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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whiterock said:

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Realitybites said:

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whiterock said:

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boognish_bear said:

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THOMAS MASSIE EXPOSES AIPAC:

“AIPAC is very persuasive. If you look at my colleagues' feeds now, they all look the same, they're all tweeting the same message.”

He’s 100% right. pic.twitter.com/eAE96H9wt2

— ADAM (@AdameMedia) February 16, 2026

---

it's really, really easy to stay on message when the message conforms to reality, which in this case is that Israel's interests and ours are usually closely aligned, and that Israel as a policy proxy is a tremendous bang for the buck.

---

It's not a question of cooperating with other nations when interests align.

It's a question of politicians who are supposed to represent the interests of American citizens giving a foreign nation billions of dollars so they can collect a commission and acting against the interests of those citizens.

---

false dilemma. the interests of American citizens and Israeli citizens are closely aligned on a broad number of foreign policy matters, and Israel repeatedly puts its sons & daughters in harm's way in pursuit of those policy interests (which of course means American sons & daughters don't have to).

It's quite difficult to find a foreign policy investment which has generated as much positive impact as our aid to Israel. One must be quite the isolationist not to see the benefits of it.

---

Nobody under 40 believes this propaganda.

I cant think of a single way my life has improved bcs Boomers spent my entire life worshipping Israel and blowing up our national debt to historic, unrecoverable levels.

If Israel is the bang for our buck you say they are, now is the time for a ROI... this country needs the money!

---

everyone goes thru a young and stupid phase.
most grow out of it.

You are making a childish faulty assumption that nothing abroad matters to us. Nothing could be further from the truth.

To the extent that one wishes to not get directly involved solving a whole bunch of minor potential threats, so as to save powder for manifest larger threats, then one needs highly motivated and capable allies to do the work instead. And in that role, few allies of anyone at any time in history have been more cost-effective than Israel.

---

lol. As we are literally about to fight another costly and pointless war for Israel with Iran... Israel didn't send a single troop to Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, or Afganistan.... with allies like these, who needs enemies?

---

Such a profoundly dumb comment. Israel is a tiny country with an existential war to fight every single day surrounded by a vast array hostiles. Moreover, only an idiot would send Jewish troops to help occupy an islamic country. Would be highly inflammatory to Arab sensibilities, making pacification as well as broader coalition building harder.

We do not need any Israeli encouragement to bomb the hell out of Iran to the point of regime change. It is long, long overdue, for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with Israel. I do appreciate their help, however. They're pretty damned capable and are usually willing to do the riskiest parts of the mission so we don't have to.

It's like you completely missed that time Iran held our diplomats hostages for over a year. or that time Iranian proxies bombed the Marine barracks in Beirut. or that Iranian terrorism has purposely killed thousands of Americans. But no. You love you some Iranians. Probably because they killed or ran off all their Jews. It's always about the Jew, for you.

Where does all this hate come from....did a Jew steal your wife or something?

---

Why the hell would anyone be interested in bombing Iran for the sole reason of regime change? Our involvement in this conflict has everything to do with Israel. It's the reason Bibi keeps coming back to the Whitehouse

---

Well, I guess it depends. Is the regime the number one sponsor of state terrorism in the world today, exporting same around the globe?

---

Not yet, but I suppose it could happen if we succeed in toppling the regime and replacing it with a bunch of fanatics like we did in Syria.

---

To the contrary, they achieved that distinction years ago.

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202412132588

I know you're proud.

---

We've all heard the propaganda, thanks.

---

Predictable response. Anytime the US says it, it's propaganda, while the dictators and despots are credible and to be believed.

Same old Sam. Your country is always the bad guy, while Putin fights Just Wars.

LOL.

---

I mean, the designation was literally invented as a way to single out Iran. I'm sure it's totally objective, though.

Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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whiterock said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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whiterock said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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whiterock said:

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Realitybites said:

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whiterock said:

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boognish_bear said:

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THOMAS MASSIE EXPOSES AIPAC:

“AIPAC is very persuasive. If you look at my colleagues' feeds now, they all look the same, they're all tweeting the same message.”

He’s 100% right. pic.twitter.com/eAE96H9wt2

— ADAM (@AdameMedia) February 16, 2026

---

it's really, really easy to stay on message when the message conforms to reality, which in this case is that Israel's interests and ours are usually closely aligned, and that Israel as a policy proxy is a tremendous bang for the buck.

---

It's not a question of cooperating with other nations when interests align.

It's a question of politicians who are supposed to represent the interests of American citizens giving a foreign nation billions of dollars so they can collect a commission and acting against the interests of those citizens.

---

false dilemma. the interests of American citizens and Israeli citizens are closely aligned on a broad number of foreign policy matters, and Israel repeatedly puts its sons & daughters in harm's way in pursuit of those policy interests (which of course means American sons & daughters don't have to).

It's quite difficult to find a foreign policy investment which has generated as much positive impact as our aid to Israel. One must be quite the isolationist not to see the benefits of it.

---

Nobody under 40 believes this propaganda.

I cant think of a single way my life has improved bcs Boomers spent my entire life worshipping Israel and blowing up our national debt to historic, unrecoverable levels.

If Israel is the bang for our buck you say they are, now is the time for a ROI... this country needs the money!

---

everyone goes thru a young and stupid phase.
most grow out of it.

You are making a childish faulty assumption that nothing abroad matters to us. Nothing could be further from the truth.

To the extent that one wishes to not get directly involved solving a whole bunch of minor potential threats, so as to save powder for manifest larger threats, then one needs highly motivated and capable allies to do the work instead. And in that role, few allies of anyone at any time in history have been more cost-effective than Israel.

---

lol. As we are literally about to fight another costly and pointless war for Israel with Iran... Israel didn't send a single troop to Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, or Afganistan.... with allies like these, who needs enemies?

---

Such a profoundly dumb comment. Israel is a tiny country with an existential war to fight every single day surrounded by a vast array hostiles. Moreover, only an idiot would send Jewish troops to help occupy an islamic country. Would be highly inflammatory to Arab sensibilities, making pacification as well as broader coalition building harder.

We do not need any Israeli encouragement to bomb the hell out of Iran to the point of regime change. It is long, long overdue, for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with Israel. I do appreciate their help, however. They're pretty damned capable and are usually willing to do the riskiest parts of the mission so we don't have to.

It's like you completely missed that time Iran held our diplomats hostages for over a year. or that time Iranian proxies bombed the Marine barracks in Beirut. or that Iranian terrorism has purposely killed thousands of Americans. But no. You love you some Iranians. Probably because they killed or ran off all their Jews. It's always about the Jew, for you.

Where does all this hate come from....did a Jew steal your wife or something?

---

Why the hell would anyone be interested in bombing Iran for the sole reason of regime change? Our involvement in this conflict has everything to do with Israel. It's the reason Bibi keeps coming back to the Whitehouse

---

Well, I guess it depends. Is the regime the number one sponsor of state terrorism in the world today, exporting same around the globe?

---

Not yet, but I suppose it could happen if we succeed in toppling the regime and replacing it with a bunch of fanatics like we did in Syria.

---

To the contrary, they achieved that distinction years ago.

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202412132588

I know you're proud.

---

We've all heard the propaganda, thanks.

---

Predictable response. Anytime the US says it, it's propaganda, while the dictators and despots are credible and to be believed.

Same old Sam. Your country is always the bad guy, while Putin fights Just Wars.

LOL.

---

I mean, the designation was literally invented as a way to single out Iran. I'm sure it's totally objective, though.

---

Yup, 39 years of propaganda. We'll just simply ignore their funding and arming of proxies like Hezbollah, Hamas, Iraqi militias and various other proxies we know they've used to conduct attacks across the globe. We'll ignore the over 360 targeted assassinations and bombings in more than 40 countries, targeting dissidents, Western interests, and Israel. We'll ignore the 1983 U.S. Embassy and Marine barracks bombings in Beirut, the 1992 Israeli Embassy attack and 1994 AMIA bombing in Argentina, and ongoing rocket/drone attacks on U.S. bases in Iraq and Syria. We'll ignore the support of the Assad regime in Syria, the backing of Houthi attacks on Saudi Arabia and maritime targets, and their work to destabilize Iraq and kill US soldiers there. We'll ignore their supplying hundreds of unmanned aerial vehicles and, increasingly, ballistic missiles, which Russia uses to target Ukrainian civilian infrastructure.

All just "propaganda" and a figment of our imaginations.

You are a hoot.

Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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whiterock said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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whiterock said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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whiterock said:

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Realitybites said:

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whiterock said:

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boognish_bear said:

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THOMAS MASSIE EXPOSES AIPAC:

“AIPAC is very persuasive. If you look at my colleagues' feeds now, they all look the same, they're all tweeting the same message.”

He’s 100% right. pic.twitter.com/eAE96H9wt2

— ADAM (@AdameMedia) February 16, 2026

---

it's really, really easy to stay on message when the message conforms to reality, which in this case is that Israel's interests and ours are usually closely aligned, and that Israel as a policy proxy is a tremendous bang for the buck.

---

It's not a question of cooperating with other nations when interests align.

It's a question of politicians who are supposed to represent the interests of American citizens giving a foreign nation billions of dollars so they can collect a commission and acting against the interests of those citizens.

---

false dilemma. the interests of American citizens and Israeli citizens are closely aligned on a broad number of foreign policy matters, and Israel repeatedly puts its sons & daughters in harm's way in pursuit of those policy interests (which of course means American sons & daughters don't have to).

It's quite difficult to find a foreign policy investment which has generated as much positive impact as our aid to Israel. One must be quite the isolationist not to see the benefits of it.

---

Nobody under 40 believes this propaganda.

I cant think of a single way my life has improved bcs Boomers spent my entire life worshipping Israel and blowing up our national debt to historic, unrecoverable levels.

If Israel is the bang for our buck you say they are, now is the time for a ROI... this country needs the money!

---

everyone goes thru a young and stupid phase.
most grow out of it.

You are making a childish faulty assumption that nothing abroad matters to us. Nothing could be further from the truth.

To the extent that one wishes to not get directly involved solving a whole bunch of minor potential threats, so as to save powder for manifest larger threats, then one needs highly motivated and capable allies to do the work instead. And in that role, few allies of anyone at any time in history have been more cost-effective than Israel.

---

lol. As we are literally about to fight another costly and pointless war for Israel with Iran... Israel didn't send a single troop to Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, or Afganistan.... with allies like these, who needs enemies?

---

Such a profoundly dumb comment. Israel is a tiny country with an existential war to fight every single day surrounded by a vast array hostiles. Moreover, only an idiot would send Jewish troops to help occupy an islamic country. Would be highly inflammatory to Arab sensibilities, making pacification as well as broader coalition building harder.

We do not need any Israeli encouragement to bomb the hell out of Iran to the point of regime change. It is long, long overdue, for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with Israel. I do appreciate their help, however. They're pretty damned capable and are usually willing to do the riskiest parts of the mission so we don't have to.

It's like you completely missed that time Iran held our diplomats hostages for over a year. or that time Iranian proxies bombed the Marine barracks in Beirut. or that Iranian terrorism has purposely killed thousands of Americans. But no. You love you some Iranians. Probably because they killed or ran off all their Jews. It's always about the Jew, for you.

Where does all this hate come from....did a Jew steal your wife or something?

---

Why the hell would anyone be interested in bombing Iran for the sole reason of regime change? Our involvement in this conflict has everything to do with Israel. It's the reason Bibi keeps coming back to the Whitehouse

---

Well, I guess it depends. Is the regime the number one sponsor of state terrorism in the world today, exporting same around the globe?

---

Not yet, but I suppose it could happen if we succeed in toppling the regime and replacing it with a bunch of fanatics like we did in Syria.

---

To the contrary, they achieved that distinction years ago.

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202412132588

I know you're proud.

---

We've all heard the propaganda, thanks.

---

Predictable response. Anytime the US says it, it's propaganda, while the dictators and despots are credible and to be believed.

Same old Sam. Your country is always the bad guy, while Putin fights Just Wars.

LOL.

---

I mean, the designation was literally invented as a way to single out Iran. I'm sure it's totally objective, though.

---

Yup, 39 years of propaganda. We'll just simply ignore their funding and arming of proxies like Hezbollah, Hamas, Iraqi militias and various other proxies we know they've used to conduct attacks across the globe. We'll ignore the over 360 targeted assassinations and bombings in more than 40 countries, targeting dissidents, Western interests, and Israel. We'll ignore the 1983 U.S. Embassy and Marine barracks bombings in Beirut, the 1992 Israeli Embassy attack and 1994 AMIA bombing in Argentina, and ongoing rocket/drone attacks on U.S. bases in Iraq and Syria. We'll ignore the support of the Assad regime in Syria, the backing of Houthi attacks on Saudi Arabia and maritime targets, and their work to destabilize Iraq and kill US soldiers there. We'll ignore their supplying hundreds of unmanned aerial vehicles and, increasingly, ballistic missiles, which Russia uses to target Ukrainian civilian infrastructure.

All just "propaganda" and a figment of our imaginations.

You are a hoot.

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If you can ignore the US and its allies funding Al Qaeda, ISIS, and Hamas, assassinating journalists and scientists, bombing and starving civilians, and destabilizing countries around the world, sure.

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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whiterock said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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boognish_bear said:

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THOMAS MASSIE EXPOSES AIPAC:

“AIPAC is very persuasive. If you look at my colleagues' feeds now, they all look the same, they're all tweeting the same message.”

He’s 100% right. pic.twitter.com/eAE96H9wt2

— ADAM (@AdameMedia) February 16, 2026

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it's really, really easy to stay on message when the message conforms to reality, which in this case is that Israel's interests and ours are usually closely aligned, and that Israel as a policy proxy is a tremendous bang for the buck.

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It's not a question of cooperating with other nations when interests align.

It's a question of politicians who are supposed to represent the interests of American citizens giving a foreign nation billions of dollars so they can collect a commission and acting against the interests of those citizens.

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false dilemma. the interests of American citizens and Israeli citizens are closely aligned on a broad number of foreign policy matters, and Israel repeatedly puts its sons & daughters in harm's way in pursuit of those policy interests (which of course means American sons & daughters don't have to).

It's quite difficult to find a foreign policy investment which has generated as much positive impact as our aid to Israel. One must be quite the isolationist not to see the benefits of it.

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Nobody under 40 believes this propaganda.

I cant think of a single way my life has improved bcs Boomers spent my entire life worshipping Israel and blowing up our national debt to historic, unrecoverable levels.

If Israel is the bang for our buck you say they are, now is the time for a ROI... this country needs the money!

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everyone goes thru a young and stupid phase.
most grow out of it.

You are making a childish faulty assumption that nothing abroad matters to us. Nothing could be further from the truth.

To the extent that one wishes to not get directly involved solving a whole bunch of minor potential threats, so as to save powder for manifest larger threats, then one needs highly motivated and capable allies to do the work instead. And in that role, few allies of anyone at any time in history have been more cost-effective than Israel.

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lol. As we are literally about to fight another costly and pointless war for Israel with Iran... Israel didn't send a single troop to Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, or Afganistan.... with allies like these, who needs enemies?

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Such a profoundly dumb comment. Israel is a tiny country with an existential war to fight every single day surrounded by a vast array hostiles. Moreover, only an idiot would send Jewish troops to help occupy an islamic country. Would be highly inflammatory to Arab sensibilities, making pacification as well as broader coalition building harder.

We do not need any Israeli encouragement to bomb the hell out of Iran to the point of regime change. It is long, long overdue, for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with Israel. I do appreciate their help, however. They're pretty damned capable and are usually willing to do the riskiest parts of the mission so we don't have to.

It's like you completely missed that time Iran held our diplomats hostages for over a year. or that time Iranian proxies bombed the Marine barracks in Beirut. or that Iranian terrorism has purposely killed thousands of Americans. But no. You love you some Iranians. Probably because they killed or ran off all their Jews. It's always about the Jew, for you.

Where does all this hate come from....did a Jew steal your wife or something?

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Why the hell would anyone be interested in bombing Iran for the sole reason of regime change? Our involvement in this conflict has everything to do with Israel. It's the reason Bibi keeps coming back to the Whitehouse

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Well, I guess it depends. Is the regime the number one sponsor of state terrorism in the world today, exporting same around the globe?

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Not yet, but I suppose it could happen if we succeed in toppling the regime and replacing it with a bunch of fanatics like we did in Syria.

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To the contrary, they achieved that distinction years ago.

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202412132588

I know you're proud.

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We've all heard the propaganda, thanks.

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Predictable response. Anytime the US says it, it's propaganda, while the dictators and despots are credible and to be believed.

Same old Sam. Your country is always the bad guy, while Putin fights Just Wars.

LOL.

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I mean, the designation was literally invented as a way to single out Iran. I'm sure it's totally objective, though.

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Yup, 39 years of propaganda. We'll just simply ignore their funding and arming of proxies like Hezbollah, Hamas, Iraqi militias and various other proxies we know they've used to conduct attacks across the globe. We'll ignore the over 360 targeted assassinations and bombings in more than 40 countries, targeting dissidents, Western interests, and Israel. We'll ignore the 1983 U.S. Embassy and Marine barracks bombings in Beirut, the 1992 Israeli Embassy attack and 1994 AMIA bombing in Argentina, and ongoing rocket/drone attacks on U.S. bases in Iraq and Syria. We'll ignore the support of the Assad regime in Syria, the backing of Houthi attacks on Saudi Arabia and maritime targets, and their work to destabilize Iraq and kill US soldiers there. We'll ignore their supplying hundreds of unmanned aerial vehicles and, increasingly, ballistic missiles, which Russia uses to target Ukrainian civilian infrastructure.

All just "propaganda" and a figment of our imaginations.

You are a hoot.

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If you can ignore the US and its allies funding Al Qaeda, ISIS, and Hamas, assassinating journalists and scientists, bombing and starving civilians, and destabilizing countries around the world, sure.

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And that's not propaganda at all and entirely true, right?

You just keep confirming what I am saying. America bad. Dictators and Islamists, good. Our assessment of them is propaganda. Their assessment of us is the gospel.

Same old ****, different day.

Piers: “Iran is no threat to the US?”

John Mearsheimer: “No.”

Morgan: “They fund terrorist groups bent on Israel’s destruction.”

John: “You’re baking the idea that Iran is a threat to Israel, and that any threat to Israel is a threat to the U.S. I don’t buy that argument.” pic.twitter.com/1cBQLKgVAi

— illuminatibot (@iluminatibot) February 18, 2026

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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whiterock said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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whiterock said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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whiterock said:

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Realitybites said:

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whiterock said:

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boognish_bear said:

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THOMAS MASSIE EXPOSES AIPAC:

“AIPAC is very persuasive. If you look at my colleagues' feeds now, they all look the same, they're all tweeting the same message.”

He’s 100% right. pic.twitter.com/eAE96H9wt2

— ADAM (@AdameMedia) February 16, 2026

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it's really, really easy to stay on message when the message conforms to reality, which in this case is that Israel's interests and ours are usually closely aligned, and that Israel as a policy proxy is a tremendous bang for the buck.

---

It's not a question of cooperating with other nations when interests align.

It's a question of politicians who are supposed to represent the interests of American citizens giving a foreign nation billions of dollars so they can collect a commission and acting against the interests of those citizens.

---

false dilemma. the interests of American citizens and Israeli citizens are closely aligned on a broad number of foreign policy matters, and Israel repeatedly puts its sons & daughters in harm's way in pursuit of those policy interests (which of course means American sons & daughters don't have to).

It's quite difficult to find a foreign policy investment which has generated as much positive impact as our aid to Israel. One must be quite the isolationist not to see the benefits of it.

---

Nobody under 40 believes this propaganda.

I cant think of a single way my life has improved bcs Boomers spent my entire life worshipping Israel and blowing up our national debt to historic, unrecoverable levels.

If Israel is the bang for our buck you say they are, now is the time for a ROI... this country needs the money!

---

everyone goes thru a young and stupid phase.
most grow out of it.

You are making a childish faulty assumption that nothing abroad matters to us. Nothing could be further from the truth.

To the extent that one wishes to not get directly involved solving a whole bunch of minor potential threats, so as to save powder for manifest larger threats, then one needs highly motivated and capable allies to do the work instead. And in that role, few allies of anyone at any time in history have been more cost-effective than Israel.

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lol. As we are literally about to fight another costly and pointless war for Israel with Iran... Israel didn't send a single troop to Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, or Afganistan.... with allies like these, who needs enemies?

---

Such a profoundly dumb comment. Israel is a tiny country with an existential war to fight every single day surrounded by a vast array hostiles. Moreover, only an idiot would send Jewish troops to help occupy an islamic country. Would be highly inflammatory to Arab sensibilities, making pacification as well as broader coalition building harder.

We do not need any Israeli encouragement to bomb the hell out of Iran to the point of regime change. It is long, long overdue, for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with Israel. I do appreciate their help, however. They're pretty damned capable and are usually willing to do the riskiest parts of the mission so we don't have to.

It's like you completely missed that time Iran held our diplomats hostages for over a year. or that time Iranian proxies bombed the Marine barracks in Beirut. or that Iranian terrorism has purposely killed thousands of Americans. But no. You love you some Iranians. Probably because they killed or ran off all their Jews. It's always about the Jew, for you.

Where does all this hate come from....did a Jew steal your wife or something?

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Why the hell would anyone be interested in bombing Iran for the sole reason of regime change? Our involvement in this conflict has everything to do with Israel. It's the reason Bibi keeps coming back to the Whitehouse

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Well, I guess it depends. Is the regime the number one sponsor of state terrorism in the world today, exporting same around the globe?

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Not yet, but I suppose it could happen if we succeed in toppling the regime and replacing it with a bunch of fanatics like we did in Syria.

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To the contrary, they achieved that distinction years ago.

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202412132588

I know you're proud.

---

We've all heard the propaganda, thanks.

---

Predictable response. Anytime the US says it, it's propaganda, while the dictators and despots are credible and to be believed.

Same old Sam. Your country is always the bad guy, while Putin fights Just Wars.

LOL.

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I mean, the designation was literally invented as a way to single out Iran. I'm sure it's totally objective, though.

---

Yup, 39 years of propaganda. We'll just simply ignore their funding and arming of proxies like Hezbollah, Hamas, Iraqi militias and various other proxies we know they've used to conduct attacks across the globe. We'll ignore the over 360 targeted assassinations and bombings in more than 40 countries, targeting dissidents, Western interests, and Israel. We'll ignore the 1983 U.S. Embassy and Marine barracks bombings in Beirut, the 1992 Israeli Embassy attack and 1994 AMIA bombing in Argentina, and ongoing rocket/drone attacks on U.S. bases in Iraq and Syria. We'll ignore the support of the Assad regime in Syria, the backing of Houthi attacks on Saudi Arabia and maritime targets, and their work to destabilize Iraq and kill US soldiers there. We'll ignore their supplying hundreds of unmanned aerial vehicles and, increasingly, ballistic missiles, which Russia uses to target Ukrainian civilian infrastructure.

All just "propaganda" and a figment of our imaginations.

You are a hoot.

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If you can ignore the US and its allies funding Al Qaeda, ISIS, and Hamas, assassinating journalists and scientists, bombing and starving civilians, and destabilizing countries around the world, sure.

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And that's not propaganda at all and entirely true, right?

You just keep confirming what I am saying. America bad. Dictators and Islamists, good. Our assessment of them is propaganda. Their assessment of us is the gospel.

Same old ****, different day.

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If it were up to me, we wouldn't support dictators or Islamists. But that's where you and I disagree.

Tucker playing the drama queen.

Standard procedure for the clown.

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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whiterock said:

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Realitybites said:

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boognish_bear said:

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THOMAS MASSIE EXPOSES AIPAC:

“AIPAC is very persuasive. If you look at my colleagues' feeds now, they all look the same, they're all tweeting the same message.”

He’s 100% right. pic.twitter.com/eAE96H9wt2

— ADAM (@AdameMedia) February 16, 2026

---

it's really, really easy to stay on message when the message conforms to reality, which in this case is that Israel's interests and ours are usually closely aligned, and that Israel as a policy proxy is a tremendous bang for the buck.

---

It's not a question of cooperating with other nations when interests align.

It's a question of politicians who are supposed to represent the interests of American citizens giving a foreign nation billions of dollars so they can collect a commission and acting against the interests of those citizens.

---

false dilemma. the interests of American citizens and Israeli citizens are closely aligned on a broad number of foreign policy matters, and Israel repeatedly puts its sons & daughters in harm's way in pursuit of those policy interests (which of course means American sons & daughters don't have to).

It's quite difficult to find a foreign policy investment which has generated as much positive impact as our aid to Israel. One must be quite the isolationist not to see the benefits of it.

---

Nobody under 40 believes this propaganda.

I cant think of a single way my life has improved bcs Boomers spent my entire life worshipping Israel and blowing up our national debt to historic, unrecoverable levels.

If Israel is the bang for our buck you say they are, now is the time for a ROI... this country needs the money!

---

everyone goes thru a young and stupid phase.
most grow out of it.

You are making a childish faulty assumption that nothing abroad matters to us. Nothing could be further from the truth.

To the extent that one wishes to not get directly involved solving a whole bunch of minor potential threats, so as to save powder for manifest larger threats, then one needs highly motivated and capable allies to do the work instead. And in that role, few allies of anyone at any time in history have been more cost-effective than Israel.

---

lol. As we are literally about to fight another costly and pointless war for Israel with Iran... Israel didn't send a single troop to Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, or Afganistan.... with allies like these, who needs enemies?

---

Such a profoundly dumb comment. Israel is a tiny country with an existential war to fight every single day surrounded by a vast array hostiles. Moreover, only an idiot would send Jewish troops to help occupy an islamic country. Would be highly inflammatory to Arab sensibilities, making pacification as well as broader coalition building harder.

We do not need any Israeli encouragement to bomb the hell out of Iran to the point of regime change. It is long, long overdue, for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with Israel. I do appreciate their help, however. They're pretty damned capable and are usually willing to do the riskiest parts of the mission so we don't have to.

It's like you completely missed that time Iran held our diplomats hostages for over a year. or that time Iranian proxies bombed the Marine barracks in Beirut. or that Iranian terrorism has purposely killed thousands of Americans. But no. You love you some Iranians. Probably because they killed or ran off all their Jews. It's always about the Jew, for you.

Where does all this hate come from....did a Jew steal your wife or something?

---

Why the hell would anyone be interested in bombing Iran for the sole reason of regime change? Our involvement in this conflict has everything to do with Israel. It's the reason Bibi keeps coming back to the Whitehouse

---

Well, I guess it depends. Is the regime the number one sponsor of state terrorism in the world today, exporting same around the globe?

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Not yet, but I suppose it could happen if we succeed in toppling the regime and replacing it with a bunch of fanatics like we did in Syria.

---

To the contrary, they achieved that distinction years ago.

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202412132588

I know you're proud.

---

We've all heard the propaganda, thanks.

---

Predictable response. Anytime the US says it, it's propaganda, while the dictators and despots are credible and to be believed.

Same old Sam. Your country is always the bad guy, while Putin fights Just Wars.

LOL.

---

I mean, the designation was literally invented as a way to single out Iran. I'm sure it's totally objective, though.

---

Yup, 39 years of propaganda. We'll just simply ignore their funding and arming of proxies like Hezbollah, Hamas, Iraqi militias and various other proxies we know they've used to conduct attacks across the globe. We'll ignore the over 360 targeted assassinations and bombings in more than 40 countries, targeting dissidents, Western interests, and Israel. We'll ignore the 1983 U.S. Embassy and Marine barracks bombings in Beirut, the 1992 Israeli Embassy attack and 1994 AMIA bombing in Argentina, and ongoing rocket/drone attacks on U.S. bases in Iraq and Syria. We'll ignore the support of the Assad regime in Syria, the backing of Houthi attacks on Saudi Arabia and maritime targets, and their work to destabilize Iraq and kill US soldiers there. We'll ignore their supplying hundreds of unmanned aerial vehicles and, increasingly, ballistic missiles, which Russia uses to target Ukrainian civilian infrastructure.

All just "propaganda" and a figment of our imaginations.

You are a hoot.

---

If you can ignore the US and its allies funding Al Qaeda, ISIS, and Hamas, assassinating journalists and scientists, bombing and starving civilians, and destabilizing countries around the world, sure.

---

And that's not propaganda at all and entirely true, right?

You just keep confirming what I am saying. America bad. Dictators and Islamists, good. Our assessment of them is propaganda. Their assessment of us is the gospel.

Same old ****, different day.

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If it were up to me, we wouldn't support dictators or Islamists. But that's where you and I disagree.

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Well, we know this is a big, fat lie. You LOVE supporting Islamists and dictators. Have for years.

Been on your knees for Putin from the get-go.

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Shifting to a different topic, can you explain to me why Jared Kushner is effectively acting as a second Secretary of State?

Was he vetted by congress?

Why is this clown being given complete authority over our foreign policy?

What are his qualifications? Other than he is a jew and a fervent zionist of course...

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I understand why you'd like to change the subject. Your position on this issue isn't exactly sound.

As for Kushner, I am not a racist, and don't hyperventilate about all things Jew, so I really don't know and don't care. I trust that Trump will make the right decision.

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Blissfully ignorant.

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No, I'm just not a racist such as yourself, and don't assume nefarious motives as you do every time a Jew is involved.

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Sometimes I have to remind myself you are a 50 year old man and not a precocious toddler with your childlike worldview... there is no precedent for a President's unelected, un-vetted son-in-law negotiating American foreign policy... or a casino/real estate operator like Witkoff... it is so brazen and absurd the fact that the media isnt questioning it is another sign this country is a corrupt ****hole...

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Sometimes I have to remind myself I am dealing with a aggrieved, white, 30-something who's never had a girlfriend and still living in his Boomer parents' basement. It makes the typical millennial finger-pointing for your lot in life much more understandable.

Let's not pretend you're upset because unelected and unvetted people are assisting Trump. You didn't have a problem with Elon, or the myriad of other people who've assisted Trump, despite being unelected and unvetted.

Your just angry because you're a racist Jew-hater, and because these individuals are Jews, whom you despise and wish dead or subjugated.

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Elon was attempting to cut government spending... I would celebrate anyone who can reduce our superfluous spending and get us back to balanced budgets!

Why is it Kushner and Witkoff only seem interested in creating new wars and stealing from the tax payer rather than doing something constructive like reducing government fraud and waste?

Its ironic that you claim I am the one wanting murder and subjugation when Judaism is literally an ethnosupremacist cult. There is a reason why they have never been able to integrate into any civilized society. Its because they believe they are a master race and ordained by some fake God to rule over humanity. The Talmud considers gentiles as unclean subhumans that jews are allowed to commit unspeakable depravities upon.

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Sam Lowry said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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whiterock said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Realitybites said:

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whiterock said:

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boognish_bear said:

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THOMAS MASSIE EXPOSES AIPAC:

“AIPAC is very persuasive. If you look at my colleagues' feeds now, they all look the same, they're all tweeting the same message.”

He’s 100% right. pic.twitter.com/eAE96H9wt2

— ADAM (@AdameMedia) February 16, 2026

---

it's really, really easy to stay on message when the message conforms to reality, which in this case is that Israel's interests and ours are usually closely aligned, and that Israel as a policy proxy is a tremendous bang for the buck.

---

It's not a question of cooperating with other nations when interests align.

It's a question of politicians who are supposed to represent the interests of American citizens giving a foreign nation billions of dollars so they can collect a commission and acting against the interests of those citizens.

---

false dilemma. the interests of American citizens and Israeli citizens are closely aligned on a broad number of foreign policy matters, and Israel repeatedly puts its sons & daughters in harm's way in pursuit of those policy interests (which of course means American sons & daughters don't have to).

It's quite difficult to find a foreign policy investment which has generated as much positive impact as our aid to Israel. One must be quite the isolationist not to see the benefits of it.

---

Nobody under 40 believes this propaganda.

I cant think of a single way my life has improved bcs Boomers spent my entire life worshipping Israel and blowing up our national debt to historic, unrecoverable levels.

If Israel is the bang for our buck you say they are, now is the time for a ROI... this country needs the money!

---

everyone goes thru a young and stupid phase.
most grow out of it.

You are making a childish faulty assumption that nothing abroad matters to us. Nothing could be further from the truth.

To the extent that one wishes to not get directly involved solving a whole bunch of minor potential threats, so as to save powder for manifest larger threats, then one needs highly motivated and capable allies to do the work instead. And in that role, few allies of anyone at any time in history have been more cost-effective than Israel.

---

lol. As we are literally about to fight another costly and pointless war for Israel with Iran... Israel didn't send a single troop to Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, or Afganistan.... with allies like these, who needs enemies?

---

Such a profoundly dumb comment. Israel is a tiny country with an existential war to fight every single day surrounded by a vast array hostiles. Moreover, only an idiot would send Jewish troops to help occupy an islamic country. Would be highly inflammatory to Arab sensibilities, making pacification as well as broader coalition building harder.

We do not need any Israeli encouragement to bomb the hell out of Iran to the point of regime change. It is long, long overdue, for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with Israel. I do appreciate their help, however. They're pretty damned capable and are usually willing to do the riskiest parts of the mission so we don't have to.

It's like you completely missed that time Iran held our diplomats hostages for over a year. or that time Iranian proxies bombed the Marine barracks in Beirut. or that Iranian terrorism has purposely killed thousands of Americans. But no. You love you some Iranians. Probably because they killed or ran off all their Jews. It's always about the Jew, for you.

Where does all this hate come from....did a Jew steal your wife or something?

---

Why the hell would anyone be interested in bombing Iran for the sole reason of regime change? Our involvement in this conflict has everything to do with Israel. It's the reason Bibi keeps coming back to the Whitehouse

---

Well, I guess it depends. Is the regime the number one sponsor of state terrorism in the world today, exporting same around the globe?

---

Not yet, but I suppose it could happen if we succeed in toppling the regime and replacing it with a bunch of fanatics like we did in Syria.

---

To the contrary, they achieved that distinction years ago.

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202412132588

I know you're proud.

---

We've all heard the propaganda, thanks.

---

Predictable response. Anytime the US says it, it's propaganda, while the dictators and despots are credible and to be believed.

Same old Sam. Your country is always the bad guy, while Putin fights Just Wars.

LOL.

---

I mean, the designation was literally invented as a way to single out Iran. I'm sure it's totally objective, though.

---

Yup, 39 years of propaganda. We'll just simply ignore their funding and arming of proxies like Hezbollah, Hamas, Iraqi militias and various other proxies we know they've used to conduct attacks across the globe. We'll ignore the over 360 targeted assassinations and bombings in more than 40 countries, targeting dissidents, Western interests, and Israel. We'll ignore the 1983 U.S. Embassy and Marine barracks bombings in Beirut, the 1992 Israeli Embassy attack and 1994 AMIA bombing in Argentina, and ongoing rocket/drone attacks on U.S. bases in Iraq and Syria. We'll ignore the support of the Assad regime in Syria, the backing of Houthi attacks on Saudi Arabia and maritime targets, and their work to destabilize Iraq and kill US soldiers there. We'll ignore their supplying hundreds of unmanned aerial vehicles and, increasingly, ballistic missiles, which Russia uses to target Ukrainian civilian infrastructure.

All just "propaganda" and a figment of our imaginations.

You are a hoot.

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Given all the evidence we now have of Israeli subversion and deception, it wouldnt surprise me in the slightest if the Beruit bombing was a false flag done by Israel.

That would actually explain why Reagan pulled out of the Middle East rather than doubling down and destroying the Islamists in Lebanon.

We're not doing anything to support Putin. However, the US/UK have crushed at least two major democratic movements in Iran, once at the end of the monarchy and again after WW2. We're now talking about reviving the hated Pahlavi dynasty, with no regard for Iranians' wishes, naturally. Meanwhile your buddy Zelenski continues in office unelected, having outlawed his political opposition and assassinated hundreds of his enemies. These are only two of many examples, all with the direct support and participation of the West. Not to mention our policies of illegal invasion, extrajudicial killing, extraordinary rendition, torture, and assorted other crimes that you've celebrated over the years. You have no credibility whatsoever on this topic.

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Quick question. Do you understand sea lanes and trade routes at all?

Your phobia of Jews seems to suggest the answer is no.

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Okay so you clearly have no idea what's going on right now.

While the Strait is important, this current conflict has little to do with trade than it does Irans nuclear program and how it threatens Israel. Trade is a mere byproduct of it.

And sure enough youre back to throwing insults around when someone disagrees with you (taken right out of the left's playbook). It really weakens your argument

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I shall address the cheap shot at the end of your post first:

Throughout this thread, people who hate Jews have used every trick and slimy claim to show their malice in print, even as they pretend they are simply 'criticizing' the Israeli government. It's a thing I have seen many times before in my life, whether the people targeted were Black, Hispanic, Roma, Women, Homeless, or Jews.

Funny how often the same tactics and methods are used; only the target gets changed according to the hate group doing the cruelties.

So to my mind, it's not 'throwing insults around' to note antisemitism in these posts, especially when that malice seeps into the tone of them.

And let's not forget you both started and ended with a cheap lie: That I 'don't know what's going on' when I have raised a very salient point in the context of this thread, and then of course that calling someone out on their bigotry means I have a 'playbook' of using insults.

I use insults, but only in reply or when the recipient has richly earned his rebuke.

With that out of the way, it's actually amusing to see people try to wave away or just ignore the lessons of History. Consider if you would the importance of the Middle East, especially between 1800 and 1973.

Everyone today is aware of Islamic Fundamentalism (which has always been around - just look up the various 'Mahdi' movements and the violence they generated) , which found its heyday during the Crusade years which so many on the Left pretend was not Islam's fault in any way. But pretty much between Jefferson sending troops to establish the Marine Corps legend and the OPEC Oil Crisis, the tribes and clans of the Middle East would seem to have no value to the major nations, yet from Napoleon to DeGaulle, Bismarck to Rommel, Jefferson to Nixon, Europe and America have both shown constant and frequently strong interests in the Middle East. This does not make sense unless and until you look at the geography of the region and the impact of land and sea routes.

I could go on in specifics, but if someone chooses to reject the logic of geography such effort would be wasted.

I get it now. If I say we're in the Middle East to steal land and resources, you say we have to defend our allies. If he says we're there to defend Israel, you say we need the land and resources. Brilliant!

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Quick question. Do you understand sea lanes and trade routes at all?

Your phobia of Jews seems to suggest the answer is no.

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Okay so you clearly have no idea what's going on right now.

While the Strait is important, this current conflict has little to do with trade than it does Irans nuclear program and how it threatens Israel. Trade is a mere byproduct of it.

And sure enough youre back to throwing insults around when someone disagrees with you (taken right out of the left's playbook). It really weakens your argument

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I shall address the cheap shot at the end of your post first:

Throughout this thread, people who hate Jews have used every trick and slimy claim to show their malice in print, even as they pretend they are simply 'criticizing' the Israeli government. It's a thing I have seen many times before in my life, whether the people targeted were Black, Hispanic, Roma, Women, Homeless, or Jews.

Funny how often the same tactics and methods are used; only the target gets changed according to the hate group doing the cruelties.

So to my mind, it's not 'throwing insults around' to note antisemitism in these posts, especially when that malice seeps into the tone of them.

And let's not forget you both started and ended with a cheap lie: That I 'don't know what's going on' when I have raised a very salient point in the context of this thread, and then of course that calling someone out on their bigotry means I have a 'playbook' of using insults.

I use insults, but only in reply or when the recipient has richly earned his rebuke.

With that out of the way, it's actually amusing to see people try to wave away or just ignore the lessons of History. Consider if you would the importance of the Middle East, especially between 1800 and 1973.

Everyone today is aware of Islamic Fundamentalism (which has always been around - just look up the various 'Mahdi' movements and the violence they generated) , which found its heyday during the Crusade years which so many on the Left pretend was not Islam's fault in any way. But pretty much between Jefferson sending troops to establish the Marine Corps legend and the OPEC Oil Crisis, the tribes and clans of the Middle East would seem to have no value to the major nations, yet from Napoleon to DeGaulle, Bismarck to Rommel, Jefferson to Nixon, Europe and America have both shown constant and frequently strong interests in the Middle East. This does not make sense unless and until you look at the geography of the region and the impact of land and sea routes.

I could go on in specifics, but if someone chooses to reject the logic of geography such effort would be wasted.

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I asked you for a detailed cost-benefit analysis on the economic benefits America receives from pouring ungodly amounts of resources into the region... instead I get vagueries about historical importance and geography and a diatribe about how being a ******* is acceptable when you do it.

The $1 trillion defense budget is unstainable and it is strangling the lifeforce out of the American people. Inflation is going to lead to societal collapse... but why would you care when you won't be alive to experience it?

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THOMAS MASSIE EXPOSES AIPAC:

“AIPAC is very persuasive. If you look at my colleagues' feeds now, they all look the same, they're all tweeting the same message.”

He’s 100% right. pic.twitter.com/eAE96H9wt2

— ADAM (@AdameMedia) February 16, 2026

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it's really, really easy to stay on message when the message conforms to reality, which in this case is that Israel's interests and ours are usually closely aligned, and that Israel as a policy proxy is a tremendous bang for the buck.

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It's not a question of cooperating with other nations when interests align.

It's a question of politicians who are supposed to represent the interests of American citizens giving a foreign nation billions of dollars so they can collect a commission and acting against the interests of those citizens.

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false dilemma. the interests of American citizens and Israeli citizens are closely aligned on a broad number of foreign policy matters, and Israel repeatedly puts its sons & daughters in harm's way in pursuit of those policy interests (which of course means American sons & daughters don't have to).

It's quite difficult to find a foreign policy investment which has generated as much positive impact as our aid to Israel. One must be quite the isolationist not to see the benefits of it.

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Nobody under 40 believes this propaganda.

I cant think of a single way my life has improved bcs Boomers spent my entire life worshipping Israel and blowing up our national debt to historic, unrecoverable levels.

If Israel is the bang for our buck you say they are, now is the time for a ROI... this country needs the money!

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everyone goes thru a young and stupid phase.
most grow out of it.

You are making a childish faulty assumption that nothing abroad matters to us. Nothing could be further from the truth.

To the extent that one wishes to not get directly involved solving a whole bunch of minor potential threats, so as to save powder for manifest larger threats, then one needs highly motivated and capable allies to do the work instead. And in that role, few allies of anyone at any time in history have been more cost-effective than Israel.

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lol. As we are literally about to fight another costly and pointless war for Israel with Iran... Israel didn't send a single troop to Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, or Afganistan.... with allies like these, who needs enemies?

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Such a profoundly dumb comment. Israel is a tiny country with an existential war to fight every single day surrounded by a vast array hostiles. Moreover, only an idiot would send Jewish troops to help occupy an islamic country. Would be highly inflammatory to Arab sensibilities, making pacification as well as broader coalition building harder.

We do not need any Israeli encouragement to bomb the hell out of Iran to the point of regime change. It is long, long overdue, for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with Israel. I do appreciate their help, however. They're pretty damned capable and are usually willing to do the riskiest parts of the mission so we don't have to.

It's like you completely missed that time Iran held our diplomats hostages for over a year. or that time Iranian proxies bombed the Marine barracks in Beirut. or that Iranian terrorism has purposely killed thousands of Americans. But no. You love you some Iranians. Probably because they killed or ran off all their Jews. It's always about the Jew, for you.

Where does all this hate come from....did a Jew steal your wife or something?

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Why the hell would anyone be interested in bombing Iran for the sole reason of regime change? Our involvement in this conflict has everything to do with Israel. It's the reason Bibi keeps coming back to the Whitehouse

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Well, I guess it depends. Is the regime the number one sponsor of state terrorism in the world today, exporting same around the globe?

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Not yet, but I suppose it could happen if we succeed in toppling the regime and replacing it with a bunch of fanatics like we did in Syria.

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To the contrary, they achieved that distinction years ago.

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202412132588

I know you're proud.

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We've all heard the propaganda, thanks.

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Predictable response. Anytime the US says it, it's propaganda, while the dictators and despots are credible and to be believed.

Same old Sam. Your country is always the bad guy, while Putin fights Just Wars.

LOL.

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I mean, the designation was literally invented as a way to single out Iran. I'm sure it's totally objective, though.

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Yup, 39 years of propaganda. We'll just simply ignore their funding and arming of proxies like Hezbollah, Hamas, Iraqi militias and various other proxies we know they've used to conduct attacks across the globe. We'll ignore the over 360 targeted assassinations and bombings in more than 40 countries, targeting dissidents, Western interests, and Israel. We'll ignore the 1983 U.S. Embassy and Marine barracks bombings in Beirut, the 1992 Israeli Embassy attack and 1994 AMIA bombing in Argentina, and ongoing rocket/drone attacks on U.S. bases in Iraq and Syria. We'll ignore the support of the Assad regime in Syria, the backing of Houthi attacks on Saudi Arabia and maritime targets, and their work to destabilize Iraq and kill US soldiers there. We'll ignore their supplying hundreds of unmanned aerial vehicles and, increasingly, ballistic missiles, which Russia uses to target Ukrainian civilian infrastructure.

All just "propaganda" and a figment of our imaginations.

You are a hoot.

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Kinda like how you ignore all the war crimes and betrayals the Israelis have committed against the American people?

Lets not forget how Israel "funds" our corrupt politicians to steal from their constituents and oppress them. Or how they "fund" anti-white American hate groups like the ADL and SPLC...