Tucker's attempt to normalize Nick Fuentes

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Sam Lowry
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Getting back on topic, let's consider a hypothetical. It's 2036, and Nick Fuentes is running for president against AOC or whichever woke Democrat is popular at the time. Who gets your vote, or do you sit it out? Is Fuentes where your pragmatism draws the line?
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BigGameBaylorBear said:

Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

I find you more than sus.

Expect you have a closet full of brown shirts, mein herr.


When is the last time the orderly at the nursing home kicked the crap out of you?

Its long overdue.

Sooooooooooooooo many mistakes in your post:

1. I am not in a nursing home (perhaps you are in a facility, that would explain a lot)

2. Orderlies do not as a rule 'kick the crap' out of residents (although again you may have experienced such, which again would explain some of your behavior)

3. I notice you did not actually deny having a closet full of brownshirts

4. You also continue to exhibit anti-semitic opinions consistently.

Btw, I may have found an old photo of you and a buddy in your glory days:




You can't even keep track of who you're responding too, lol

I can respond to two different Nazis at the same time. Did you feel left out?
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Sam Lowry said:

Getting back on topic, let's consider a hypothetical. It's 2036, and Nick Fuentes is running for president against AOC or whichever woke Democrat is popular at the time. Who gets your vote, or do you sit it out? Is Fuentes where your pragmatism draws the line?

Fuentes has even less chance of being the GOP nominee than you do, Sam.
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Mothra
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Sam Lowry said:

Getting back on topic, let's consider a hypothetical. It's 2036, and Nick Fuentes is running for president against AOC or whichever woke Democrat is popular at the time. Who gets your vote, or do you sit it out? Is Fuentes where your pragmatism draws the line?

Don't know. I am not familiar with Fuentes's positions. If they were anywhere close to Trump's, I suppose I would prefer the white racist to the Hispanic racist.

What I do know is if I was an actual conservative, supporting conservative positions makes far more sense than sitting it out or voting for the antithesis of my positions, which is why your position on Trump is so utterly ridiculous.
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Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Getting back on topic, let's consider a hypothetical. It's 2036, and Nick Fuentes is running for president against AOC or whichever woke Democrat is popular at the time. Who gets your vote, or do you sit it out? Is Fuentes where your pragmatism draws the line?

Don't know. I am not familiar with Fuentes's positions. If they were anywhere close to Trump's, I suppose I would prefer the white racist to the Hispanic racist.

What I do know is if I was an actual conservative, supporting conservative positions makes far more sense than sitting it out or voting for the antithesis of my positions, which is why your position on Trump is so utterly ridiculous.


https://americafirstfoundation.org/about

Here's a link to his site. The America First Foundation. Summarizes his beliefs
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Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Getting back on topic, let's consider a hypothetical. It's 2036, and Nick Fuentes is running for president against AOC or whichever woke Democrat is popular at the time. Who gets your vote, or do you sit it out? Is Fuentes where your pragmatism draws the line?

Don't know. I am not familiar with Fuentes's positions. If they were anywhere close to Trump's, I suppose I would prefer the white racist to the Hispanic racist.

What I do know is if I was an actual conservative, supporting conservative positions makes far more sense than sitting it out or voting for the antithesis of my positions, which is why your position on Trump is so utterly ridiculous.

I assume you mean you're not familiar with Fuentes' policy positions. We know he admires Hitler and thinks Jews have no place in Western civilization. But he seems to tick all the right conservative boxes as far as immigration, abortion, gay marriage, etc. So is it all about policy, or does it matter that you'd be voting for an actual Nazi?
Mothra
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Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Getting back on topic, let's consider a hypothetical. It's 2036, and Nick Fuentes is running for president against AOC or whichever woke Democrat is popular at the time. Who gets your vote, or do you sit it out? Is Fuentes where your pragmatism draws the line?

Don't know. I am not familiar with Fuentes's positions. If they were anywhere close to Trump's, I suppose I would prefer the white racist to the Hispanic racist.

What I do know is if I was an actual conservative, supporting conservative positions makes far more sense than sitting it out or voting for the antithesis of my positions, which is why your position on Trump is so utterly ridiculous.

I assume you mean you're not familiar with Fuentes' policy positions. We know he admires Hitler and thinks Jews have no place in Western civilization. But he seems to tick all the right conservative boxes as far as immigration, abortion, gay marriage, etc. So is it all about policy, or does it matter that you'd be voting for an actual Nazi?

I'd describe Fuentes as a white supremacist. Not so sure I'd go so far as describing him as a Nazi, though he apparently definitely likes Hitler. Again, I am not familiar with his policy positions.

But if it came down to Fuentes and AOC, as I said, if he held conservative policy positions, I'd absolutely vote for him over AOC any day of the week, and twice on Sunday. Any actual conservative would.
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Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Getting back on topic, let's consider a hypothetical. It's 2036, and Nick Fuentes is running for president against AOC or whichever woke Democrat is popular at the time. Who gets your vote, or do you sit it out? Is Fuentes where your pragmatism draws the line?

Don't know. I am not familiar with Fuentes's positions. If they were anywhere close to Trump's, I suppose I would prefer the white racist to the Hispanic racist.

What I do know is if I was an actual conservative, supporting conservative positions makes far more sense than sitting it out or voting for the antithesis of my positions, which is why your position on Trump is so utterly ridiculous.

I assume you mean you're not familiar with Fuentes' policy positions. We know he admires Hitler and thinks Jews have no place in Western civilization. But he seems to tick all the right conservative boxes as far as immigration, abortion, gay marriage, etc. So is it all about policy, or does it matter that you'd be voting for an actual Nazi?

I'd describe Fuentes as a white supremacist. Not so sure I'd go so far as describing him as a Nazi, though he apparently definitely likes Hitler. Again, I am not familiar with his policy positions.

But if it came down to Fuentes and AOC, as I said, if he held conservative policy positions, I'd absolutely vote for him over AOC any day of the week, and twice on Sunday. Any actual conservative would.


Heck ya!!! Based!!!
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Mothra
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BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Getting back on topic, let's consider a hypothetical. It's 2036, and Nick Fuentes is running for president against AOC or whichever woke Democrat is popular at the time. Who gets your vote, or do you sit it out? Is Fuentes where your pragmatism draws the line?

Don't know. I am not familiar with Fuentes's positions. If they were anywhere close to Trump's, I suppose I would prefer the white racist to the Hispanic racist.

What I do know is if I was an actual conservative, supporting conservative positions makes far more sense than sitting it out or voting for the antithesis of my positions, which is why your position on Trump is so utterly ridiculous.

I assume you mean you're not familiar with Fuentes' policy positions. We know he admires Hitler and thinks Jews have no place in Western civilization. But he seems to tick all the right conservative boxes as far as immigration, abortion, gay marriage, etc. So is it all about policy, or does it matter that you'd be voting for an actual Nazi?

I'd describe Fuentes as a white supremacist. Not so sure I'd go so far as describing him as a Nazi, though he apparently definitely likes Hitler. Again, I am not familiar with his policy positions.

But if it came down to Fuentes and AOC, as I said, if he held conservative policy positions, I'd absolutely vote for him over AOC any day of the week, and twice on Sunday. Any actual conservative would.


Heck ya!!! Based!!!

Sam has difficulty with such pragmatism.
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Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Getting back on topic, let's consider a hypothetical. It's 2036, and Nick Fuentes is running for president against AOC or whichever woke Democrat is popular at the time. Who gets your vote, or do you sit it out? Is Fuentes where your pragmatism draws the line?

Don't know. I am not familiar with Fuentes's positions. If they were anywhere close to Trump's, I suppose I would prefer the white racist to the Hispanic racist.

What I do know is if I was an actual conservative, supporting conservative positions makes far more sense than sitting it out or voting for the antithesis of my positions, which is why your position on Trump is so utterly ridiculous.

I assume you mean you're not familiar with Fuentes' policy positions. We know he admires Hitler and thinks Jews have no place in Western civilization. But he seems to tick all the right conservative boxes as far as immigration, abortion, gay marriage, etc. So is it all about policy, or does it matter that you'd be voting for an actual Nazi?

I'd describe Fuentes as a white supremacist. Not so sure I'd go so far as describing him as a Nazi, though he apparently definitely likes Hitler. Again, I am not familiar with his policy positions.

But if it came down to Fuentes and AOC, as I said, if he held conservative policy positions, I'd absolutely vote for him over AOC any day of the week, and twice on Sunday. Any actual conservative would.


Heck ya!!! Based!!!

Sam has difficulty with such pragmatism.

There's just something about voting for a white supremacist that doesn't sit right. It would almost be like, I don't know, "normalizing" it.
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Oldbear83 said:

Sam Lowry said:

Getting back on topic, let's consider a hypothetical. It's 2036, and Nick Fuentes is running for president against AOC or whichever woke Democrat is popular at the time. Who gets your vote, or do you sit it out? Is Fuentes where your pragmatism draws the line?

Fuentes has even less chance of being the GOP nominee than you do, Sam.


By 2036 you'll be dead so it wont be your problem.
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Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Getting back on topic, let's consider a hypothetical. It's 2036, and Nick Fuentes is running for president against AOC or whichever woke Democrat is popular at the time. Who gets your vote, or do you sit it out? Is Fuentes where your pragmatism draws the line?

Don't know. I am not familiar with Fuentes's positions. If they were anywhere close to Trump's, I suppose I would prefer the white racist to the Hispanic racist.

What I do know is if I was an actual conservative, supporting conservative positions makes far more sense than sitting it out or voting for the antithesis of my positions, which is why your position on Trump is so utterly ridiculous.

I assume you mean you're not familiar with Fuentes' policy positions. We know he admires Hitler and thinks Jews have no place in Western civilization. But he seems to tick all the right conservative boxes as far as immigration, abortion, gay marriage, etc. So is it all about policy, or does it matter that you'd be voting for an actual Nazi?

The only actual (former) Nazis still alive are all over 100 years old so you can stop wetting yourself.
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Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Getting back on topic, let's consider a hypothetical. It's 2036, and Nick Fuentes is running for president against AOC or whichever woke Democrat is popular at the time. Who gets your vote, or do you sit it out? Is Fuentes where your pragmatism draws the line?

Don't know. I am not familiar with Fuentes's positions. If they were anywhere close to Trump's, I suppose I would prefer the white racist to the Hispanic racist.

What I do know is if I was an actual conservative, supporting conservative positions makes far more sense than sitting it out or voting for the antithesis of my positions, which is why your position on Trump is so utterly ridiculous.

I assume you mean you're not familiar with Fuentes' policy positions. We know he admires Hitler and thinks Jews have no place in Western civilization. But he seems to tick all the right conservative boxes as far as immigration, abortion, gay marriage, etc. So is it all about policy, or does it matter that you'd be voting for an actual Nazi?

I'd describe Fuentes as a white supremacist. Not so sure I'd go so far as describing him as a Nazi, though he apparently definitely likes Hitler. Again, I am not familiar with his policy positions.

But if it came down to Fuentes and AOC, as I said, if he held conservative policy positions, I'd absolutely vote for him over AOC any day of the week, and twice on Sunday. Any actual conservative would.


Heck ya!!! Based!!!

Sam has difficulty with such pragmatism.

There's just something about voting for a white supremacist that doesn't sit right. It would almost be like, I don't know, "normalizing" it.

While true, there's just something about voting for a race-baiting, socialist, anti-Christian values, supporter of transitioning and mutilating kids that just doesn't sit right. It would almost be like, I don't know, "normalizing" it.
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Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Getting back on topic, let's consider a hypothetical. It's 2036, and Nick Fuentes is running for president against AOC or whichever woke Democrat is popular at the time. Who gets your vote, or do you sit it out? Is Fuentes where your pragmatism draws the line?

Don't know. I am not familiar with Fuentes's positions. If they were anywhere close to Trump's, I suppose I would prefer the white racist to the Hispanic racist.

What I do know is if I was an actual conservative, supporting conservative positions makes far more sense than sitting it out or voting for the antithesis of my positions, which is why your position on Trump is so utterly ridiculous.

I assume you mean you're not familiar with Fuentes' policy positions. We know he admires Hitler and thinks Jews have no place in Western civilization. But he seems to tick all the right conservative boxes as far as immigration, abortion, gay marriage, etc. So is it all about policy, or does it matter that you'd be voting for an actual Nazi?

I'd describe Fuentes as a white supremacist. Not so sure I'd go so far as describing him as a Nazi, though he apparently definitely likes Hitler. Again, I am not familiar with his policy positions.

But if it came down to Fuentes and AOC, as I said, if he held conservative policy positions, I'd absolutely vote for him over AOC any day of the week, and twice on Sunday. Any actual conservative would.


Heck ya!!! Based!!!

Sam has difficulty with such pragmatism.

There's just something about voting for a white supremacist that doesn't sit right. It would almost be like, I don't know, "normalizing" it.

While true, there's just something about voting for a race-baiting, socialist, anti-Christian values, supporter of transitioning and mutilating kids that just doesn't sit right. It would almost be like, I don't know, "normalizing" it.

That's why I'd sit that one out. To play devil's advocate, though, I would point out that primaries are driven by the ideological base. If the Republican base, especially young voters, are trending toward extreme nativism, that's a big potential problem. You've acknowledged it yourself. At some point you're going to need someone like Tucker to get ahead of it and start normalizing it for a broader audience if you're going to have any chance against the evildoers in the future. Maybe Tucker has sensed that moment. If so, he's doing you a favor in a way, wouldn't you agree?
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Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Getting back on topic, let's consider a hypothetical. It's 2036, and Nick Fuentes is running for president against AOC or whichever woke Democrat is popular at the time. Who gets your vote, or do you sit it out? Is Fuentes where your pragmatism draws the line?

Don't know. I am not familiar with Fuentes's positions. If they were anywhere close to Trump's, I suppose I would prefer the white racist to the Hispanic racist.

What I do know is if I was an actual conservative, supporting conservative positions makes far more sense than sitting it out or voting for the antithesis of my positions, which is why your position on Trump is so utterly ridiculous.

I assume you mean you're not familiar with Fuentes' policy positions. We know he admires Hitler and thinks Jews have no place in Western civilization. But he seems to tick all the right conservative boxes as far as immigration, abortion, gay marriage, etc. So is it all about policy, or does it matter that you'd be voting for an actual Nazi?

I'd describe Fuentes as a white supremacist. Not so sure I'd go so far as describing him as a Nazi, though he apparently definitely likes Hitler. Again, I am not familiar with his policy positions.

But if it came down to Fuentes and AOC, as I said, if he held conservative policy positions, I'd absolutely vote for him over AOC any day of the week, and twice on Sunday. Any actual conservative would.


Heck ya!!! Based!!!

Sam has difficulty with such pragmatism.

There's just something about voting for a white supremacist that doesn't sit right. It would almost be like, I don't know, "normalizing" it.

While true, there's just something about voting for a race-baiting, socialist, anti-Christian values, supporter of transitioning and mutilating kids that just doesn't sit right. It would almost be like, I don't know, "normalizing" it.

That's why I'd sit that one out. To play devil's advocate, though, I would point out that primaries are driven by the ideological base. If the Republican base, especially young voters, are trending toward extreme nativism, that's a big potential problem. You've acknowledged it yourself. At some point you're going to need someone like Tucker to get ahead of it and start normalizing it for a broader audience if you're going to have any chance against the evildoers in the future. Maybe Tucker has sensed that moment. If so, he's doing you a favor in a way, wouldn't you agree?

I think that is what Tucker has already been doing and it was the main reason he had Nick on. Tucker is working with Vance to get him elected. Nicks audience is who Vance needs as potential voters so Tucker can do like a limited hangout to be kinda like Nick in some ways but not as abrasive.
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The question as I've always said comes down to what are the lesser of the evils? If you believe there is no lesser evil than I could see sitting the election out.

But if there is a greater evil, then sitting it out is irresponsible imo.

Of course you're using a very extreme example. That was not the case in 2024. Yet you say it out anyway
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muddybrazos said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Getting back on topic, let's consider a hypothetical. It's 2036, and Nick Fuentes is running for president against AOC or whichever woke Democrat is popular at the time. Who gets your vote, or do you sit it out? Is Fuentes where your pragmatism draws the line?

Don't know. I am not familiar with Fuentes's positions. If they were anywhere close to Trump's, I suppose I would prefer the white racist to the Hispanic racist.

What I do know is if I was an actual conservative, supporting conservative positions makes far more sense than sitting it out or voting for the antithesis of my positions, which is why your position on Trump is so utterly ridiculous.

I assume you mean you're not familiar with Fuentes' policy positions. We know he admires Hitler and thinks Jews have no place in Western civilization. But he seems to tick all the right conservative boxes as far as immigration, abortion, gay marriage, etc. So is it all about policy, or does it matter that you'd be voting for an actual Nazi?

I'd describe Fuentes as a white supremacist. Not so sure I'd go so far as describing him as a Nazi, though he apparently definitely likes Hitler. Again, I am not familiar with his policy positions.

But if it came down to Fuentes and AOC, as I said, if he held conservative policy positions, I'd absolutely vote for him over AOC any day of the week, and twice on Sunday. Any actual conservative would.


Heck ya!!! Based!!!

Sam has difficulty with such pragmatism.

There's just something about voting for a white supremacist that doesn't sit right. It would almost be like, I don't know, "normalizing" it.

While true, there's just something about voting for a race-baiting, socialist, anti-Christian values, supporter of transitioning and mutilating kids that just doesn't sit right. It would almost be like, I don't know, "normalizing" it.

That's why I'd sit that one out. To play devil's advocate, though, I would point out that primaries are driven by the ideological base. If the Republican base, especially young voters, are trending toward extreme nativism, that's a big potential problem. You've acknowledged it yourself. At some point you're going to need someone like Tucker to get ahead of it and start normalizing it for a broader audience if you're going to have any chance against the evildoers in the future. Maybe Tucker has sensed that moment. If so, he's doing you a favor in a way, wouldn't you agree?

I think that is what Tucker has already been doing and it was the main reason he had Nick on. Tucker is working with Vance to get him elected. Nicks audience is who Vance needs as potential voters so Tucker can do like a limited hangout to be kinda like Nick in some ways but not as abrasive.


Yep. Republicans needs every vote they can get + Democrat turn-out to be low in order to win an election.

Ben Shapiro spending his speech at TPUSA gatekeeping the Republican party kinda makes you question whether or not he truly gives a **** if Republicans ever win another national election ever again.

JD Vance is like the last of the Gen Xers so its nice to see him at least pretending to give a **** about the concerns of younger conservatives.... I know I never felt like the previous Boomer candidates ever gave a **** about my generation.... in fact I know they didnt bcs if they did they wouldnt have lied us into the Iraq war or kicked the can down the road bailing out the banks in 2008
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The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

Sam Lowry said:

Getting back on topic, let's consider a hypothetical. It's 2036, and Nick Fuentes is running for president against AOC or whichever woke Democrat is popular at the time. Who gets your vote, or do you sit it out? Is Fuentes where your pragmatism draws the line?

Fuentes has even less chance of being the GOP nominee than you do, Sam.


By 2036 you'll be dead so it wont be your problem.

Sounds like you're making threats now, Adolf.

That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

Sam Lowry said:

Getting back on topic, let's consider a hypothetical. It's 2036, and Nick Fuentes is running for president against AOC or whichever woke Democrat is popular at the time. Who gets your vote, or do you sit it out? Is Fuentes where your pragmatism draws the line?

Fuentes has even less chance of being the GOP nominee than you do, Sam.


By 2036 you'll be dead so it wont be your problem.

Sounds like you're making threats now, Adolf.





Its not a threat. Its an observation.

I didnt make you older than Methuselah.
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muddybrazos said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Getting back on topic, let's consider a hypothetical. It's 2036, and Nick Fuentes is running for president against AOC or whichever woke Democrat is popular at the time. Who gets your vote, or do you sit it out? Is Fuentes where your pragmatism draws the line?

Don't know. I am not familiar with Fuentes's positions. If they were anywhere close to Trump's, I suppose I would prefer the white racist to the Hispanic racist.

What I do know is if I was an actual conservative, supporting conservative positions makes far more sense than sitting it out or voting for the antithesis of my positions, which is why your position on Trump is so utterly ridiculous.

I assume you mean you're not familiar with Fuentes' policy positions. We know he admires Hitler and thinks Jews have no place in Western civilization. But he seems to tick all the right conservative boxes as far as immigration, abortion, gay marriage, etc. So is it all about policy, or does it matter that you'd be voting for an actual Nazi?

I'd describe Fuentes as a white supremacist. Not so sure I'd go so far as describing him as a Nazi, though he apparently definitely likes Hitler. Again, I am not familiar with his policy positions.

But if it came down to Fuentes and AOC, as I said, if he held conservative policy positions, I'd absolutely vote for him over AOC any day of the week, and twice on Sunday. Any actual conservative would.


Heck ya!!! Based!!!

Sam has difficulty with such pragmatism.

There's just something about voting for a white supremacist that doesn't sit right. It would almost be like, I don't know, "normalizing" it.

While true, there's just something about voting for a race-baiting, socialist, anti-Christian values, supporter of transitioning and mutilating kids that just doesn't sit right. It would almost be like, I don't know, "normalizing" it.

That's why I'd sit that one out. To play devil's advocate, though, I would point out that primaries are driven by the ideological base. If the Republican base, especially young voters, are trending toward extreme nativism, that's a big potential problem. You've acknowledged it yourself. At some point you're going to need someone like Tucker to get ahead of it and start normalizing it for a broader audience if you're going to have any chance against the evildoers in the future. Maybe Tucker has sensed that moment. If so, he's doing you a favor in a way, wouldn't you agree?

I think that is what Tucker has already been doing and it was the main reason he had Nick on. Tucker is working with Vance to get him elected. Nicks audience is who Vance needs as potential voters so Tucker can do like a limited hangout to be kinda like Nick in some ways but not as abrasive.


Good observation. Nick has a growing base which he uses to leverage against the current Republican Party. The GOP is becoming more reliant on Millennials/Gen Z so the goal is to get them to adjust their ideology to fit an American First agenda. They can't win without us going forward

I would sit out in 2026 in order to spook the republicans. Trump has had a lame duck presidency and we need more America first candidates, less neo-cons like Ted Cruz
Sic 'em Bears and Go Birds
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BigGameBaylorBear said:

muddybrazos said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Getting back on topic, let's consider a hypothetical. It's 2036, and Nick Fuentes is running for president against AOC or whichever woke Democrat is popular at the time. Who gets your vote, or do you sit it out? Is Fuentes where your pragmatism draws the line?

Don't know. I am not familiar with Fuentes's positions. If they were anywhere close to Trump's, I suppose I would prefer the white racist to the Hispanic racist.

What I do know is if I was an actual conservative, supporting conservative positions makes far more sense than sitting it out or voting for the antithesis of my positions, which is why your position on Trump is so utterly ridiculous.

I assume you mean you're not familiar with Fuentes' policy positions. We know he admires Hitler and thinks Jews have no place in Western civilization. But he seems to tick all the right conservative boxes as far as immigration, abortion, gay marriage, etc. So is it all about policy, or does it matter that you'd be voting for an actual Nazi?

I'd describe Fuentes as a white supremacist. Not so sure I'd go so far as describing him as a Nazi, though he apparently definitely likes Hitler. Again, I am not familiar with his policy positions.

But if it came down to Fuentes and AOC, as I said, if he held conservative policy positions, I'd absolutely vote for him over AOC any day of the week, and twice on Sunday. Any actual conservative would.


Heck ya!!! Based!!!

Sam has difficulty with such pragmatism.

There's just something about voting for a white supremacist that doesn't sit right. It would almost be like, I don't know, "normalizing" it.

While true, there's just something about voting for a race-baiting, socialist, anti-Christian values, supporter of transitioning and mutilating kids that just doesn't sit right. It would almost be like, I don't know, "normalizing" it.

That's why I'd sit that one out. To play devil's advocate, though, I would point out that primaries are driven by the ideological base. If the Republican base, especially young voters, are trending toward extreme nativism, that's a big potential problem. You've acknowledged it yourself. At some point you're going to need someone like Tucker to get ahead of it and start normalizing it for a broader audience if you're going to have any chance against the evildoers in the future. Maybe Tucker has sensed that moment. If so, he's doing you a favor in a way, wouldn't you agree?

I think that is what Tucker has already been doing and it was the main reason he had Nick on. Tucker is working with Vance to get him elected. Nicks audience is who Vance needs as potential voters so Tucker can do like a limited hangout to be kinda like Nick in some ways but not as abrasive.


Good observation. Nick has a growing base which he uses to leverage against the current Republican Party. The GOP is becoming more reliant on Millennials/Gen Z so the goal is to get them to adjust their ideology to fit an American First agenda. They can't win without us going forward

I would sit out in 2026 in order to spook the republicans. Trump has had a lame duck presidency and we need more America first candidates, less neo-cons like Ted Cruz

I am just curious - how do you define America First? What specific policies does it promote?
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Mothra said:

Of course you're using a very extreme example.

But not extreme enough, apparently. What would disqualify a guy like Fuentes in your view? Let's say, for national security reasons, he proposed adding an identifying mark to Jewish Americans' passports. Would that be a deal-breaker? Or could you live with it to keep the Bolshevik Bartender out of the White House?
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Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Getting back on topic, let's consider a hypothetical. It's 2036, and Nick Fuentes is running for president against AOC or whichever woke Democrat is popular at the time. Who gets your vote, or do you sit it out? Is Fuentes where your pragmatism draws the line?

Don't know. I am not familiar with Fuentes's positions. If they were anywhere close to Trump's, I suppose I would prefer the white racist to the Hispanic racist.

What I do know is if I was an actual conservative, supporting conservative positions makes far more sense than sitting it out or voting for the antithesis of my positions, which is why your position on Trump is so utterly ridiculous.

Sorry to break it to you ... but Fuentes is not white. He's Hispanic. His last name is Fuentes for crying out loud.
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The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

Sam Lowry said:

Getting back on topic, let's consider a hypothetical. It's 2036, and Nick Fuentes is running for president against AOC or whichever woke Democrat is popular at the time. Who gets your vote, or do you sit it out? Is Fuentes where your pragmatism draws the line?

Fuentes has even less chance of being the GOP nominee than you do, Sam.


By 2036 you'll be dead so it wont be your problem.

Strange thing to post.

Considering it is just as likely it won't be your 'problem'.
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Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

muddybrazos said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Getting back on topic, let's consider a hypothetical. It's 2036, and Nick Fuentes is running for president against AOC or whichever woke Democrat is popular at the time. Who gets your vote, or do you sit it out? Is Fuentes where your pragmatism draws the line?

Don't know. I am not familiar with Fuentes's positions. If they were anywhere close to Trump's, I suppose I would prefer the white racist to the Hispanic racist.

What I do know is if I was an actual conservative, supporting conservative positions makes far more sense than sitting it out or voting for the antithesis of my positions, which is why your position on Trump is so utterly ridiculous.

I assume you mean you're not familiar with Fuentes' policy positions. We know he admires Hitler and thinks Jews have no place in Western civilization. But he seems to tick all the right conservative boxes as far as immigration, abortion, gay marriage, etc. So is it all about policy, or does it matter that you'd be voting for an actual Nazi?

I'd describe Fuentes as a white supremacist. Not so sure I'd go so far as describing him as a Nazi, though he apparently definitely likes Hitler. Again, I am not familiar with his policy positions.

But if it came down to Fuentes and AOC, as I said, if he held conservative policy positions, I'd absolutely vote for him over AOC any day of the week, and twice on Sunday. Any actual conservative would.


Heck ya!!! Based!!!

Sam has difficulty with such pragmatism.

There's just something about voting for a white supremacist that doesn't sit right. It would almost be like, I don't know, "normalizing" it.

While true, there's just something about voting for a race-baiting, socialist, anti-Christian values, supporter of transitioning and mutilating kids that just doesn't sit right. It would almost be like, I don't know, "normalizing" it.

That's why I'd sit that one out. To play devil's advocate, though, I would point out that primaries are driven by the ideological base. If the Republican base, especially young voters, are trending toward extreme nativism, that's a big potential problem. You've acknowledged it yourself. At some point you're going to need someone like Tucker to get ahead of it and start normalizing it for a broader audience if you're going to have any chance against the evildoers in the future. Maybe Tucker has sensed that moment. If so, he's doing you a favor in a way, wouldn't you agree?

I think that is what Tucker has already been doing and it was the main reason he had Nick on. Tucker is working with Vance to get him elected. Nicks audience is who Vance needs as potential voters so Tucker can do like a limited hangout to be kinda like Nick in some ways but not as abrasive.


Good observation. Nick has a growing base which he uses to leverage against the current Republican Party. The GOP is becoming more reliant on Millennials/Gen Z so the goal is to get them to adjust their ideology to fit an American First agenda. They can't win without us going forward

I would sit out in 2026 in order to spook the republicans. Trump has had a lame duck presidency and we need more America first candidates, less neo-cons like Ted Cruz

I am just curious - how do you define America First? What specific policies does it promote?


I want major immigration reform. Something along the lines of the Johnson-Reed Act of 1924. Cut H1-Bs. I want true mass-deportations.

Rework our relationships with our allies, Israel can remain but its need to be reformed in a big way. Im not a total isolationist.

Rework the welfare system. Too many abuse it. Cut the pork out of government (we all want that).

Healthcare seems like something we eventually need to figure out. It's outrageous. I don't have an idea on a solution though.

Sic 'em Bears and Go Birds
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KaiBear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

Sam Lowry said:

Getting back on topic, let's consider a hypothetical. It's 2036, and Nick Fuentes is running for president against AOC or whichever woke Democrat is popular at the time. Who gets your vote, or do you sit it out? Is Fuentes where your pragmatism draws the line?

Fuentes has even less chance of being the GOP nominee than you do, Sam.


By 2036 you'll be dead so it wont be your problem.

Strange thing to post.

Considering it is just as likely it won't be your 'problem'.


He's afraid of me breathing, for some reason. Or more likely, he's afraid of me voting, since I use critical thinking and don't just join mobs of idiots, as it appears he prefers.

That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Of course you're using a very extreme example.

But not extreme enough, apparently. What would disqualify a guy like Fuentes in your view? Let's say, for national security reasons, he proposed adding an identifying mark to Jewish Americans' passports. Would that be a deal-breaker? Or could you live with it to keep the Bolshevik Bartender out of the White House?

Certainly much more extreme than anything related to Trump, that is for sure. It depends on whether it's more or less extreme than the other side.

I would absolutely consider that a deal breaker. I believe that would be the greater of the evils in my analysis, and would prefer the Bolshevik Bartender.
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BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

muddybrazos said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Getting back on topic, let's consider a hypothetical. It's 2036, and Nick Fuentes is running for president against AOC or whichever woke Democrat is popular at the time. Who gets your vote, or do you sit it out? Is Fuentes where your pragmatism draws the line?

Don't know. I am not familiar with Fuentes's positions. If they were anywhere close to Trump's, I suppose I would prefer the white racist to the Hispanic racist.

What I do know is if I was an actual conservative, supporting conservative positions makes far more sense than sitting it out or voting for the antithesis of my positions, which is why your position on Trump is so utterly ridiculous.

I assume you mean you're not familiar with Fuentes' policy positions. We know he admires Hitler and thinks Jews have no place in Western civilization. But he seems to tick all the right conservative boxes as far as immigration, abortion, gay marriage, etc. So is it all about policy, or does it matter that you'd be voting for an actual Nazi?

I'd describe Fuentes as a white supremacist. Not so sure I'd go so far as describing him as a Nazi, though he apparently definitely likes Hitler. Again, I am not familiar with his policy positions.

But if it came down to Fuentes and AOC, as I said, if he held conservative policy positions, I'd absolutely vote for him over AOC any day of the week, and twice on Sunday. Any actual conservative would.


Heck ya!!! Based!!!

Sam has difficulty with such pragmatism.

There's just something about voting for a white supremacist that doesn't sit right. It would almost be like, I don't know, "normalizing" it.

While true, there's just something about voting for a race-baiting, socialist, anti-Christian values, supporter of transitioning and mutilating kids that just doesn't sit right. It would almost be like, I don't know, "normalizing" it.

That's why I'd sit that one out. To play devil's advocate, though, I would point out that primaries are driven by the ideological base. If the Republican base, especially young voters, are trending toward extreme nativism, that's a big potential problem. You've acknowledged it yourself. At some point you're going to need someone like Tucker to get ahead of it and start normalizing it for a broader audience if you're going to have any chance against the evildoers in the future. Maybe Tucker has sensed that moment. If so, he's doing you a favor in a way, wouldn't you agree?

I think that is what Tucker has already been doing and it was the main reason he had Nick on. Tucker is working with Vance to get him elected. Nicks audience is who Vance needs as potential voters so Tucker can do like a limited hangout to be kinda like Nick in some ways but not as abrasive.


Good observation. Nick has a growing base which he uses to leverage against the current Republican Party. The GOP is becoming more reliant on Millennials/Gen Z so the goal is to get them to adjust their ideology to fit an American First agenda. They can't win without us going forward

I would sit out in 2026 in order to spook the republicans. Trump has had a lame duck presidency and we need more America first candidates, less neo-cons like Ted Cruz

I am just curious - how do you define America First? What specific policies does it promote?


I want major immigration reform. Something along the lines of the Johnson-Reed Act of 1924. Cut H1-Bs. I want true mass-deportations.

Rework our relationships with our allies, Israel can remain but its need to be reformed in a big way. Im not a total isolationist.

Rework the welfare system. Too many abuse it. Cut the pork out of government (we all want that).

Healthcare seems like something we eventually need to figure out. It's outrageous. I don't have an idea on a solution though.



Hmm. Not sure that's much different from what Trump is attempting.
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Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

muddybrazos said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Getting back on topic, let's consider a hypothetical. It's 2036, and Nick Fuentes is running for president against AOC or whichever woke Democrat is popular at the time. Who gets your vote, or do you sit it out? Is Fuentes where your pragmatism draws the line?

Don't know. I am not familiar with Fuentes's positions. If they were anywhere close to Trump's, I suppose I would prefer the white racist to the Hispanic racist.

What I do know is if I was an actual conservative, supporting conservative positions makes far more sense than sitting it out or voting for the antithesis of my positions, which is why your position on Trump is so utterly ridiculous.

I assume you mean you're not familiar with Fuentes' policy positions. We know he admires Hitler and thinks Jews have no place in Western civilization. But he seems to tick all the right conservative boxes as far as immigration, abortion, gay marriage, etc. So is it all about policy, or does it matter that you'd be voting for an actual Nazi?

I'd describe Fuentes as a white supremacist. Not so sure I'd go so far as describing him as a Nazi, though he apparently definitely likes Hitler. Again, I am not familiar with his policy positions.

But if it came down to Fuentes and AOC, as I said, if he held conservative policy positions, I'd absolutely vote for him over AOC any day of the week, and twice on Sunday. Any actual conservative would.


Heck ya!!! Based!!!

Sam has difficulty with such pragmatism.

There's just something about voting for a white supremacist that doesn't sit right. It would almost be like, I don't know, "normalizing" it.

While true, there's just something about voting for a race-baiting, socialist, anti-Christian values, supporter of transitioning and mutilating kids that just doesn't sit right. It would almost be like, I don't know, "normalizing" it.

That's why I'd sit that one out. To play devil's advocate, though, I would point out that primaries are driven by the ideological base. If the Republican base, especially young voters, are trending toward extreme nativism, that's a big potential problem. You've acknowledged it yourself. At some point you're going to need someone like Tucker to get ahead of it and start normalizing it for a broader audience if you're going to have any chance against the evildoers in the future. Maybe Tucker has sensed that moment. If so, he's doing you a favor in a way, wouldn't you agree?

I think that is what Tucker has already been doing and it was the main reason he had Nick on. Tucker is working with Vance to get him elected. Nicks audience is who Vance needs as potential voters so Tucker can do like a limited hangout to be kinda like Nick in some ways but not as abrasive.


Good observation. Nick has a growing base which he uses to leverage against the current Republican Party. The GOP is becoming more reliant on Millennials/Gen Z so the goal is to get them to adjust their ideology to fit an American First agenda. They can't win without us going forward

I would sit out in 2026 in order to spook the republicans. Trump has had a lame duck presidency and we need more America first candidates, less neo-cons like Ted Cruz

I am just curious - how do you define America First? What specific policies does it promote?


I want major immigration reform. Something along the lines of the Johnson-Reed Act of 1924. Cut H1-Bs. I want true mass-deportations.

Rework our relationships with our allies, Israel can remain but its need to be reformed in a big way. Im not a total isolationist.

Rework the welfare system. Too many abuse it. Cut the pork out of government (we all want that).

Healthcare seems like something we eventually need to figure out. It's outrageous. I don't have an idea on a solution though.



Hmm. Not sure that's much different from what Trump is attempting.


Trump is all talk. Approval ratings down? Let me go write a semi-racist rant about Somalians on Truth social and call Tim Walz a ret@rd, the people will love it!

He's a great marketer but his execution sucks, the big beautiful bill is disgusting and his deportation numbers are pitiful. Also, he's hardly a Christian
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" he's hardly a Christian"

Compared to John Paul II, you're right.

Compared to you though, he's a saint.
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BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

muddybrazos said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Getting back on topic, let's consider a hypothetical. It's 2036, and Nick Fuentes is running for president against AOC or whichever woke Democrat is popular at the time. Who gets your vote, or do you sit it out? Is Fuentes where your pragmatism draws the line?

Don't know. I am not familiar with Fuentes's positions. If they were anywhere close to Trump's, I suppose I would prefer the white racist to the Hispanic racist.

What I do know is if I was an actual conservative, supporting conservative positions makes far more sense than sitting it out or voting for the antithesis of my positions, which is why your position on Trump is so utterly ridiculous.

I assume you mean you're not familiar with Fuentes' policy positions. We know he admires Hitler and thinks Jews have no place in Western civilization. But he seems to tick all the right conservative boxes as far as immigration, abortion, gay marriage, etc. So is it all about policy, or does it matter that you'd be voting for an actual Nazi?

I'd describe Fuentes as a white supremacist. Not so sure I'd go so far as describing him as a Nazi, though he apparently definitely likes Hitler. Again, I am not familiar with his policy positions.

But if it came down to Fuentes and AOC, as I said, if he held conservative policy positions, I'd absolutely vote for him over AOC any day of the week, and twice on Sunday. Any actual conservative would.


Heck ya!!! Based!!!

Sam has difficulty with such pragmatism.

There's just something about voting for a white supremacist that doesn't sit right. It would almost be like, I don't know, "normalizing" it.

While true, there's just something about voting for a race-baiting, socialist, anti-Christian values, supporter of transitioning and mutilating kids that just doesn't sit right. It would almost be like, I don't know, "normalizing" it.

That's why I'd sit that one out. To play devil's advocate, though, I would point out that primaries are driven by the ideological base. If the Republican base, especially young voters, are trending toward extreme nativism, that's a big potential problem. You've acknowledged it yourself. At some point you're going to need someone like Tucker to get ahead of it and start normalizing it for a broader audience if you're going to have any chance against the evildoers in the future. Maybe Tucker has sensed that moment. If so, he's doing you a favor in a way, wouldn't you agree?

I think that is what Tucker has already been doing and it was the main reason he had Nick on. Tucker is working with Vance to get him elected. Nicks audience is who Vance needs as potential voters so Tucker can do like a limited hangout to be kinda like Nick in some ways but not as abrasive.


Good observation. Nick has a growing base which he uses to leverage against the current Republican Party. The GOP is becoming more reliant on Millennials/Gen Z so the goal is to get them to adjust their ideology to fit an American First agenda. They can't win without us going forward

I would sit out in 2026 in order to spook the republicans. Trump has had a lame duck presidency and we need more America first candidates, less neo-cons like Ted Cruz

I am just curious - how do you define America First? What specific policies does it promote?


I want major immigration reform. Something along the lines of the Johnson-Reed Act of 1924. Cut H1-Bs. I want true mass-deportations.

Rework our relationships with our allies, Israel can remain but its need to be reformed in a big way. Im not a total isolationist.

Rework the welfare system. Too many abuse it. Cut the pork out of government (we all want that).

Healthcare seems like something we eventually need to figure out. It's outrageous. I don't have an idea on a solution though.



Hmm. Not sure that's much different from what Trump is attempting.


Trump is all talk. Approval ratings down? Let me go write a semi-racist rant about Somalians on Truth social and call Tim Walz a ret@rd, the people will love it!

He's a great marketer but his execution sucks, the big beautiful bill is disgusting and his deportation numbers are pitiful. Also, he's hardly a Christian


Interesting perspective

Mine is that Trump has accomplished more in his first year than any president since FDR.

Have no idea if Trump is a 'good' Christian. Do know he has consistently advocated on the behalf of Christians throughout the United States.
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Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Getting back on topic, let's consider a hypothetical. It's 2036, and Nick Fuentes is running for president against AOC or whichever woke Democrat is popular at the time. Who gets your vote, or do you sit it out? Is Fuentes where your pragmatism draws the line?

Don't know. I am not familiar with Fuentes's positions. If they were anywhere close to Trump's, I suppose I would prefer the white racist to the Hispanic racist.

What I do know is if I was an actual conservative, supporting conservative positions makes far more sense than sitting it out or voting for the antithesis of my positions, which is why your position on Trump is so utterly ridiculous.

I assume you mean you're not familiar with Fuentes' policy positions. We know he admires Hitler and thinks Jews have no place in Western civilization. But he seems to tick all the right conservative boxes as far as immigration, abortion, gay marriage, etc. So is it all about policy, or does it matter that you'd be voting for an actual Nazi?

I'd describe Fuentes as a white supremacist. Not so sure I'd go so far as describing him as a Nazi, though he apparently definitely likes Hitler. Again, I am not familiar with his policy positions.

But if it came down to Fuentes and AOC, as I said, if he held conservative policy positions, I'd absolutely vote for him over AOC any day of the week, and twice on Sunday. Any actual conservative would.

how is a "Beaner" called Fuentes a White Super?
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Matt Gaetz finally gets to tell his story.

"It used to be that an anti-semite was someone who didn't like Jews. Today, an anti-semite is someone Jews don't like."

A money shot from the interview that you see illustrated by multiple posters here.
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J.R. said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Getting back on topic, let's consider a hypothetical. It's 2036, and Nick Fuentes is running for president against AOC or whichever woke Democrat is popular at the time. Who gets your vote, or do you sit it out? Is Fuentes where your pragmatism draws the line?

Don't know. I am not familiar with Fuentes's positions. If they were anywhere close to Trump's, I suppose I would prefer the white racist to the Hispanic racist.

What I do know is if I was an actual conservative, supporting conservative positions makes far more sense than sitting it out or voting for the antithesis of my positions, which is why your position on Trump is so utterly ridiculous.

I assume you mean you're not familiar with Fuentes' policy positions. We know he admires Hitler and thinks Jews have no place in Western civilization. But he seems to tick all the right conservative boxes as far as immigration, abortion, gay marriage, etc. So is it all about policy, or does it matter that you'd be voting for an actual Nazi?

I'd describe Fuentes as a white supremacist. Not so sure I'd go so far as describing him as a Nazi, though he apparently definitely likes Hitler. Again, I am not familiar with his policy positions.

But if it came down to Fuentes and AOC, as I said, if he held conservative policy positions, I'd absolutely vote for him over AOC any day of the week, and twice on Sunday. Any actual conservative would.

how is a "Beaner" called Fuentes a White Super?

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Mine is that Trump has accomplished more in his first year than any president since FDR.



He has, despite being subverted by some of his cabinet.

The bigger problem is that the Congressional GOP has consistently refused to codify his America First agenda.

Which puts us one lost presidential election away from having it all swept away with a President Newsom, VP Buttigieg.
 
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