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Sam Lowry said:
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Sam Lowry said:
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Getting back on topic, let's consider a hypothetical. It's 2036, and Nick Fuentes is running for president against AOC or whichever woke Democrat is popular at the time. Who gets your vote, or do you sit it out? Is Fuentes where your pragmatism draws the line?
Don't know. I am not familiar with Fuentes's positions. If they were anywhere close to Trump's, I suppose I would prefer the white racist to the Hispanic racist.
What I do know is if I was an actual conservative, supporting conservative positions makes far more sense than sitting it out or voting for the antithesis of my positions, which is why your position on Trump is so utterly ridiculous.
I assume you mean you're not familiar with Fuentes' policy positions. We know he admires Hitler and thinks Jews have no place in Western civilization. But he seems to tick all the right conservative boxes as far as immigration, abortion, gay marriage, etc. So is it all about policy, or does it matter that you'd be voting for an actual Nazi?
I'd describe Fuentes as a white supremacist. Not so sure I'd go so far as describing him as a Nazi, though he apparently definitely likes Hitler. Again, I am not familiar with his policy positions.
But if it came down to Fuentes and AOC, as I said, if he held conservative policy positions, I'd absolutely vote for him over AOC any day of the week, and twice on Sunday. Any actual conservative would.
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Sam has difficulty with such pragmatism.
There's just something about voting for a white supremacist that doesn't sit right. It would almost be like, I don't know, "normalizing" it.
While true, there's just something about voting for a race-baiting, socialist, anti-Christian values, supporter of transitioning and mutilating kids that just doesn't sit right. It would almost be like, I don't know, "normalizing" it.
That's why I'd sit that one out. To play devil's advocate, though, I would point out that primaries are driven by the ideological base. If the Republican base, especially young voters, are trending toward extreme nativism, that's a big potential problem. You've acknowledged it yourself. At some point you're going to need someone like Tucker to get ahead of it and start normalizing it for a broader audience if you're going to have any chance against the evildoers in the future. Maybe Tucker has sensed that moment. If so, he's doing you a favor in a way, wouldn't you agree?
I think that is what Tucker has already been doing and it was the main reason he had Nick on. Tucker is working with Vance to get him elected. Nicks audience is who Vance needs as potential voters so Tucker can do like a limited hangout to be kinda like Nick in some ways but not as abrasive.
Good observation. Nick has a growing base which he uses to leverage against the current Republican Party. The GOP is becoming more reliant on Millennials/Gen Z so the goal is to get them to adjust their ideology to fit an American First agenda. They can't win without us going forward
I would sit out in 2026 in order to spook the republicans. Trump has had a lame duck presidency and we need more America first candidates, less neo-cons like Ted Cruz
I am just curious - how do you define America First? What specific policies does it promote?
I want major immigration reform. Something along the lines of the Johnson-Reed Act of 1924. Cut H1-Bs. I want true mass-deportations.
Rework our relationships with our allies, Israel can remain but its need to be reformed in a big way. Im not a total isolationist.
Rework the welfare system. Too many abuse it. Cut the pork out of government (we all want that).
Healthcare seems like something we eventually need to figure out. It's outrageous. I don't have an idea on a solution though.
Sic 'em Bears and Go Birds