So, all you can do is throw insults.GoldMind said:Oldbear83 said:I have, actually. You, whether you realize it or not, are doing just what you falsely accuse me of doing.GoldMind said:Oldbear83 said:I am familiar with it, and it does not seem to support what you imply.GoldMind said:Oldbear83 said:
Indeed? Explain please.
No, I won't.
You can go read it though, Luke 16:19-31
I am not a rich man who ignores poor beggars while throwing parties. Neither are you, for that matter. And neither of us is a beggar who lives in abject suffering, so you can forget that notion.
There is one interesting aspect to the story you mention, however. The rich man asks Abraham twice to do things for him, and is twice rejected. The second time, when the rich man asks Abraham to speak to his brothers, Abraham reminds him that the brothers have "Moses and the Prophets", meaning Scripture. So in that story, Abraham is quoted telling the man that Scripture is there for guidance and direction, and we are not to depend on people who no longer live on the earth.
The rich man, even in hell, is still all about himself. Abraham tells him why he's there, and he's still too stupid and selfish to repent. Instead, he asks Abraham to send Lazarus to intercede on his brothers, who are probably *******s as well, behalf.
So, instead of cracking stupid jokes about cell phones, perhaps you can offer something of substance to this discussion.
I get it that you don't like the idea that praying to a dead human might be a bad thing. I get it that you will ignore any explanation that shows that intercessory prayer by someone alive that you know is nowhere near the same thing as praying to a dead person you never met, hoping to improve your standing with God by name-dropping.
I even get it that you resort to spiteful attacks to try to shut up anything that might challenge your habits. That's natural for a lot of people, but this issue is important, in part for the historical impact it had on the creation of the Protestant Reformation, and in part for the erosion of faith in Christ by reaching out to humans instead of our Lord for the things we need.
Yea that's in your head, just like Rhule is a crappy coach.
You've been a complete turd since you joined this board.
Noted.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier