Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Married A Horn said:

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230 million people in a highly successful clinical trial in uttar pradesh.

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Why are you opposed to the best option we have right now at preventing a deadly virus from killing people?

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Why are you trying to convince someone to try a medical intervention they have no interest in?

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I am not trying to convince him to try anything. For all I know, he's already had COVID and getting a vaccine would only be very slightly better than the immunity he already has. Maybe he is allergic to ingredients in the vaccines or has a medical history that would be disqualifying. However, I find assorted falsehood he offers as facts, like 300 athletes dead from vaccines(!) or the false claim that vaccines don't do anything to be annoying and, for those unfortunate enough to believe it, dangerous.

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Natural immunity is far better than any immunity the vaccine could provide.

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Not for 800,000 Americans.

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Yes, our focus on preventing the illness has left us with our pants down when it comes to treating the illness. The downplay of therapeutics by those in power is despicable.

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They're going with the best evidence available. Personal success stories aren't the same as controlled studies. That is basic science. I am constantly amazed that people with college degrees don't understand it.

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If there is evidence available that other countries, which have used therapeutics to treat the illness, have a far better death rate, would you consider that some evidence that the therapeutics might work?

We were dealing with a unique virus and were learning on the fly. We should have thrown every safe and available option at it, even if a controlled study did not provide definitive proof it worked. Discrediting safe therapeutics that may have worked was a mistake.

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Married A Horn said:

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Wrong. Try again.

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D. C. Bear said:

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Mothra said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Married A Horn said:

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230 million people in a highly successful clinical trial in uttar pradesh.

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Why are you opposed to the best option we have right now at preventing a deadly virus from killing people?

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Why are you trying to convince someone to try a medical intervention they have no interest in?

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I am not trying to convince him to try anything. For all I know, he's already had COVID and getting a vaccine would only be very slightly better than the immunity he already has. Maybe he is allergic to ingredients in the vaccines or has a medical history that would be disqualifying. However, I find assorted falsehood he offers as facts, like 300 athletes dead from vaccines(!) or the false claim that vaccines don't do anything to be annoying and, for those unfortunate enough to believe it, dangerous.

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Natural immunity is far better than any immunity the vaccine could provide.

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"Natural immunity" is only better once you have recovered from the virus, and then not by much.

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Mothra said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Married A Horn said:

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230 million people in a highly successful clinical trial in uttar pradesh.

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Why are you opposed to the best option we have right now at preventing a deadly virus from killing people?

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Why are you trying to convince someone to try a medical intervention they have no interest in?

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I am not trying to convince him to try anything. For all I know, he's already had COVID and getting a vaccine would only be very slightly better than the immunity he already has. Maybe he is allergic to ingredients in the vaccines or has a medical history that would be disqualifying. However, I find assorted falsehood he offers as facts, like 300 athletes dead from vaccines(!) or the false claim that vaccines don't do anything to be annoying and, for those unfortunate enough to believe it, dangerous.

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Natural immunity is far better than any immunity the vaccine could provide.

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"Natural immunity" is only better once you have recovered from the virus, and then not by much.

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Now you are clowning. Natural immunity is more robust than the jab and longer lasting. God did a much better on our immune system than the pharma companies.

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clubhi said:

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Mothra said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Married A Horn said:

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230 million people in a highly successful clinical trial in uttar pradesh.

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Why are you opposed to the best option we have right now at preventing a deadly virus from killing people?

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Why are you trying to convince someone to try a medical intervention they have no interest in?

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I am not trying to convince him to try anything. For all I know, he's already had COVID and getting a vaccine would only be very slightly better than the immunity he already has. Maybe he is allergic to ingredients in the vaccines or has a medical history that would be disqualifying. However, I find assorted falsehood he offers as facts, like 300 athletes dead from vaccines(!) or the false claim that vaccines don't do anything to be annoying and, for those unfortunate enough to believe it, dangerous.

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Natural immunity is far better than any immunity the vaccine could provide.

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"Natural immunity" is only better once you have recovered from the virus, and then not by much.

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Now you are clowning. Natural immunity is more robust than the jab and longer lasting. God did a much better on our immune system than the pharma companies.

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God ****ed up so much on our immune systems that he forgot to even give them to some of us

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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clubhi said:

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Mothra said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Married A Horn said:

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230 million people in a highly successful clinical trial in uttar pradesh.

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Why are you opposed to the best option we have right now at preventing a deadly virus from killing people?

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Why are you trying to convince someone to try a medical intervention they have no interest in?

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I am not trying to convince him to try anything. For all I know, he's already had COVID and getting a vaccine would only be very slightly better than the immunity he already has. Maybe he is allergic to ingredients in the vaccines or has a medical history that would be disqualifying. However, I find assorted falsehood he offers as facts, like 300 athletes dead from vaccines(!) or the false claim that vaccines don't do anything to be annoying and, for those unfortunate enough to believe it, dangerous.

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Natural immunity is far better than any immunity the vaccine could provide.

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"Natural immunity" is only better once you have recovered from the virus, and then not by much.

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Now you are clowning. Natural immunity is more robust than the jab and longer lasting. God did a much better on our immune system than the pharma companies.

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God ****ed up so much on our immune systems that he forgot to even give them to some of us

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Sorry for your luck.

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Married A Horn said:

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I was salutatorian of my class. How did you fare?

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RMF5630 said:

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Mothra said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Married A Horn said:

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230 million people in a highly successful clinical trial in uttar pradesh.

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Why are you opposed to the best option we have right now at preventing a deadly virus from killing people?

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Why are you trying to convince someone to try a medical intervention they have no interest in?

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I am not trying to convince him to try anything. For all I know, he's already had COVID and getting a vaccine would only be very slightly better than the immunity he already has. Maybe he is allergic to ingredients in the vaccines or has a medical history that would be disqualifying. However, I find assorted falsehood he offers as facts, like 300 athletes dead from vaccines(!) or the false claim that vaccines don't do anything to be annoying and, for those unfortunate enough to believe it, dangerous.

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Natural immunity is far better than any immunity the vaccine could provide.

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I think you are missing the point of vaccines. Some people's natural immunity may be better, but it is not consistent and sporadic. Inoculations give a standard level across the board at scale without killing or making very sick 1% of the population. Even if they don't die, we can't have large portions of the work force out for extended periods of time. Vaccines give a low risk option, not no risk but low risk for the whole.

You do not make public policy based on you or any individual, inoculations allow a base level protection for the Country. That is why we need a policy, implemented through the States as stipulated in Constitution. Health is for the States to handle, all for it.

If you choose not to get it, fine. Your choice, but it could impact conveniences and livelihoods.

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Married A Horn said:

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230 million people in a highly successful clinical trial in uttar pradesh.

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Why are you opposed to the best option we have right now at preventing a deadly virus from killing people?

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Why are you trying to convince someone to try a medical intervention they have no interest in?

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I am not trying to convince him to try anything. For all I know, he's already had COVID and getting a vaccine would only be very slightly better than the immunity he already has. Maybe he is allergic to ingredients in the vaccines or has a medical history that would be disqualifying. However, I find assorted falsehood he offers as facts, like 300 athletes dead from vaccines(!) or the false claim that vaccines don't do anything to be annoying and, for those unfortunate enough to believe it, dangerous.

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Natural immunity is far better than any immunity the vaccine could provide.

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Not for 800,000 Americans.

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Yes, our focus on preventing the illness has left us with our pants down when it comes to treating the illness. The downplay of therapeutics by those in power is despicable.

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They're going with the best evidence available. Personal success stories aren't the same as controlled studies. That is basic science. I am constantly amazed that people with college degrees don't understand it.

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If there is evidence available that other countries, which have used therapeutics to treat the illness, have a far better death rate, would you consider that some evidence that the therapeutics might work?

We were dealing with a unique virus and were learning on the fly. We should have thrown every safe and available option at it, even if a controlled study did not provide definitive proof it worked. Discrediting safe therapeutics that may have worked was a mistake.

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Married A Horn said:

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I was salutatorian of my class. How did you fare?

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Mothra said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Married A Horn said:

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230 million people in a highly successful clinical trial in uttar pradesh.

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Why are you opposed to the best option we have right now at preventing a deadly virus from killing people?

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Why are you trying to convince someone to try a medical intervention they have no interest in?

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I am not trying to convince him to try anything. For all I know, he's already had COVID and getting a vaccine would only be very slightly better than the immunity he already has. Maybe he is allergic to ingredients in the vaccines or has a medical history that would be disqualifying. However, I find assorted falsehood he offers as facts, like 300 athletes dead from vaccines(!) or the false claim that vaccines don't do anything to be annoying and, for those unfortunate enough to believe it, dangerous.

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Natural immunity is far better than any immunity the vaccine could provide.

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"Natural immunity" is only better once you have recovered from the virus, and then not by much.

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Natural immunity is more robust than the jab and longer lasting.

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Married A Horn said:

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230 million people in a highly successful clinical trial in uttar pradesh.

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Why are you opposed to the best option we have right now at preventing a deadly virus from killing people?

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Why are you trying to convince someone to try a medical intervention they have no interest in?

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I am not trying to convince him to try anything. For all I know, he's already had COVID and getting a vaccine would only be very slightly better than the immunity he already has. Maybe he is allergic to ingredients in the vaccines or has a medical history that would be disqualifying. However, I find assorted falsehood he offers as facts, like 300 athletes dead from vaccines(!) or the false claim that vaccines don't do anything to be annoying and, for those unfortunate enough to believe it, dangerous.

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Natural immunity is far better than any immunity the vaccine could provide.

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Not for 800,000 Americans.

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Yes, our focus on preventing the illness has left us with our pants down when it comes to treating the illness. The downplay of therapeutics by those in power is despicable.

---

They're going with the best evidence available. Personal success stories aren't the same as controlled studies. That is basic science. I am constantly amazed that people with college degrees don't understand it.

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If there is evidence available that other countries, which have used therapeutics to treat the illness, have a far better death rate, would you consider that some evidence that the therapeutics might work?

We were dealing with a unique virus and were learning on the fly. We should have thrown every safe and available option at it, even if a controlled study did not provide definitive proof it worked. Discrediting safe therapeutics that may have worked was a mistake.

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Sam Lowry said:

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Mothra said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Married A Horn said:

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230 million people in a highly successful clinical trial in uttar pradesh.

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Why are you opposed to the best option we have right now at preventing a deadly virus from killing people?

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Why are you trying to convince someone to try a medical intervention they have no interest in?

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I am not trying to convince him to try anything. For all I know, he's already had COVID and getting a vaccine would only be very slightly better than the immunity he already has. Maybe he is allergic to ingredients in the vaccines or has a medical history that would be disqualifying. However, I find assorted falsehood he offers as facts, like 300 athletes dead from vaccines(!) or the false claim that vaccines don't do anything to be annoying and, for those unfortunate enough to believe it, dangerous.

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Natural immunity is far better than any immunity the vaccine could provide.

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"Natural immunity" is only better once you have recovered from the virus, and then not by much.

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Natural immunity is more robust than the jab and longer lasting.

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There is mixed evidence on that.

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Mothra said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Married A Horn said:

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230 million people in a highly successful clinical trial in uttar pradesh.

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Why are you opposed to the best option we have right now at preventing a deadly virus from killing people?

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Why are you trying to convince someone to try a medical intervention they have no interest in?

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I am not trying to convince him to try anything. For all I know, he's already had COVID and getting a vaccine would only be very slightly better than the immunity he already has. Maybe he is allergic to ingredients in the vaccines or has a medical history that would be disqualifying. However, I find assorted falsehood he offers as facts, like 300 athletes dead from vaccines(!) or the false claim that vaccines don't do anything to be annoying and, for those unfortunate enough to believe it, dangerous.

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Natural immunity is far better than any immunity the vaccine could provide.

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"Natural immunity" is only better once you have recovered from the virus, and then not by much.

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Natural immunity is more robust than the jab and longer lasting.

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There is mixed evidence on that.

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Go get your next shot. Just keep getting the next suggested or mandated round of shots. That tells me all I need to know about the shot's effectiveness.

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Married A Horn said:

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Oldest was Valedictorian. Youngest was salutatorian. 3rd kid ranked 3rd. Public school - so yeah I guess that's not saying much.

How'd you do again?

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Mothra said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Married A Horn said:

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230 million people in a highly successful clinical trial in uttar pradesh.

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Why are you opposed to the best option we have right now at preventing a deadly virus from killing people?

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Why are you trying to convince someone to try a medical intervention they have no interest in?

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I am not trying to convince him to try anything. For all I know, he's already had COVID and getting a vaccine would only be very slightly better than the immunity he already has. Maybe he is allergic to ingredients in the vaccines or has a medical history that would be disqualifying. However, I find assorted falsehood he offers as facts, like 300 athletes dead from vaccines(!) or the false claim that vaccines don't do anything to be annoying and, for those unfortunate enough to believe it, dangerous.

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Natural immunity is far better than any immunity the vaccine could provide.

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"Natural immunity" is only better once you have recovered from the virus, and then not by much.

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Natural immunity is more robust than the jab and longer lasting.

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There is mixed evidence on that.

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Go get your next shot. Just keep getting the next suggested or mandated round of shots. That tells me all I need to know about the shot's effectiveness.

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Mothra said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Married A Horn said:

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230 million people in a highly successful clinical trial in uttar pradesh.

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Why are you opposed to the best option we have right now at preventing a deadly virus from killing people?

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Why are you trying to convince someone to try a medical intervention they have no interest in?

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I am not trying to convince him to try anything. For all I know, he's already had COVID and getting a vaccine would only be very slightly better than the immunity he already has. Maybe he is allergic to ingredients in the vaccines or has a medical history that would be disqualifying. However, I find assorted falsehood he offers as facts, like 300 athletes dead from vaccines(!) or the false claim that vaccines don't do anything to be annoying and, for those unfortunate enough to believe it, dangerous.

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Natural immunity is far better than any immunity the vaccine could provide.

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"Natural immunity" is only better once you have recovered from the virus, and then not by much.

---

Natural immunity is more robust than the jab and longer lasting.

---

There is mixed evidence on that.

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Go get your next shot. Just keep getting the next suggested or mandated round of shots. That tells me all I need to know about the shot's effectiveness.

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D. C. Bear said:

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Mothra said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Married A Horn said:

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230 million people in a highly successful clinical trial in uttar pradesh.

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Why are you opposed to the best option we have right now at preventing a deadly virus from killing people?

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Why are you trying to convince someone to try a medical intervention they have no interest in?

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I am not trying to convince him to try anything. For all I know, he's already had COVID and getting a vaccine would only be very slightly better than the immunity he already has. Maybe he is allergic to ingredients in the vaccines or has a medical history that would be disqualifying. However, I find assorted falsehood he offers as facts, like 300 athletes dead from vaccines(!) or the false claim that vaccines don't do anything to be annoying and, for those unfortunate enough to believe it, dangerous.

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Natural immunity is far better than any immunity the vaccine could provide.

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"Natural immunity" is only better once you have recovered from the virus, and then not by much.

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Natural immunity is more robust than the jab and longer lasting.

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There is mixed evidence on that.

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Go get your next shot. Just keep getting the next suggested or mandated round of shots. That tells me all I need to know about the shot's effectiveness.

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And that tells me you don't know what you need to know.

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Married A Horn said:

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Yeah, 230 million people with almost zero cases after a full moon

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Married A Horn said:

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Yeah, 230 million people with almost zero cases after implementing ivermectin is terrible.

Edit: just checked - they have 144 total cases. 144 out of 230 million. Down from 100,000 a day back in the spring before ivm.

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Married A Horn said:

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230 million people in a highly successful clinical trial in uttar pradesh.

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Why are you opposed to the best option we have right now at preventing a deadly virus from killing people?

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Why are you trying to convince someone to try a medical intervention they have no interest in?

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I am not trying to convince him to try anything. For all I know, he's already had COVID and getting a vaccine would only be very slightly better than the immunity he already has. Maybe he is allergic to ingredients in the vaccines or has a medical history that would be disqualifying. However, I find assorted falsehood he offers as facts, like 300 athletes dead from vaccines(!) or the false claim that vaccines don't do anything to be annoying and, for those unfortunate enough to believe it, dangerous.

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Natural immunity is far better than any immunity the vaccine could provide.

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Not for 800,000 Americans.

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Yes, our focus on preventing the illness has left us with our pants down when it comes to treating the illness. The downplay of therapeutics by those in power is despicable.

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They're going with the best evidence available. Personal success stories aren't the same as controlled studies. That is basic science. I am constantly amazed that people with college degrees don't understand it.

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If there is evidence available that other countries, which have used therapeutics to treat the illness, have a far better death rate, would you consider that some evidence that the therapeutics might work?

We were dealing with a unique virus and were learning on the fly. We should have thrown every safe and available option at it, even if a controlled study did not provide definitive proof it worked. Discrediting safe therapeutics that may have worked was a mistake.

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It would be some evidence, but it could be influenced by other variables. That's why we need controlled studies.

It's not as if therapeutics weren't tried. Many doctors have prescribed them all along. There have also been lots of claims that sounded too good to be true, and sure enough they were.

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D. C. Bear said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Married A Horn said:

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230 million people in a highly successful clinical trial in uttar pradesh.

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Why are you opposed to the best option we have right now at preventing a deadly virus from killing people?

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Why are you trying to convince someone to try a medical intervention they have no interest in?

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I am not trying to convince him to try anything. For all I know, he's already had COVID and getting a vaccine would only be very slightly better than the immunity he already has. Maybe he is allergic to ingredients in the vaccines or has a medical history that would be disqualifying. However, I find assorted falsehood he offers as facts, like 300 athletes dead from vaccines(!) or the false claim that vaccines don't do anything to be annoying and, for those unfortunate enough to believe it, dangerous.

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Natural immunity is far better than any immunity the vaccine could provide.

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Not for 800,000 Americans.

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Yes, our focus on preventing the illness has left us with our pants down when it comes to treating the illness. The downplay of therapeutics by those in power is despicable.

---

They're going with the best evidence available. Personal success stories aren't the same as controlled studies. That is basic science. I am constantly amazed that people with college degrees don't understand it.

---

If there is evidence available that other countries, which have used therapeutics to treat the illness, have a far better death rate, would you consider that some evidence that the therapeutics might work?

We were dealing with a unique virus and were learning on the fly. We should have thrown every safe and available option at it, even if a controlled study did not provide definitive proof it worked. Discrediting safe therapeutics that may have worked was a mistake.

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As is discrediting the single best option we have right now to prevent COVID: vaccines.

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Married A Horn said:

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230 million people in a highly successful clinical trial in uttar pradesh.

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Why are you opposed to the best option we have right now at preventing a deadly virus from killing people?

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Why are you trying to convince someone to try a medical intervention they have no interest in?

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I am not trying to convince him to try anything. For all I know, he's already had COVID and getting a vaccine would only be very slightly better than the immunity he already has. Maybe he is allergic to ingredients in the vaccines or has a medical history that would be disqualifying. However, I find assorted falsehood he offers as facts, like 300 athletes dead from vaccines(!) or the false claim that vaccines don't do anything to be annoying and, for those unfortunate enough to believe it, dangerous.

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Natural immunity is far better than any immunity the vaccine could provide.

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Not for 800,000 Americans.

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Yes, our focus on preventing the illness has left us with our pants down when it comes to treating the illness. The downplay of therapeutics by those in power is despicable.

---

They're going with the best evidence available. Personal success stories aren't the same as controlled studies. That is basic science. I am constantly amazed that people with college degrees don't understand it.

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If there is evidence available that other countries, which have used therapeutics to treat the illness, have a far better death rate, would you consider that some evidence that the therapeutics might work?

We were dealing with a unique virus and were learning on the fly. We should have thrown every safe and available option at it, even if a controlled study did not provide definitive proof it worked. Discrediting safe therapeutics that may have worked was a mistake.

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It would be some evidence, but it could be influenced by other variables. That's why we need controlled studies.

It's not as if therapeutics weren't tried. Many doctors have prescribed them all along. There have also been lots of claims that sounded too good to be true, and sure enough they were.

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Sometimes we don't have time for controlled or long term studies. Recall this was an emergency, and vaccines were rushed out to fight it.

While some doctors have prescribed things like Ivermectic, and have seen amazing results, the vast majority have not and have been prevented from doing so.

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D. C. Bear said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Married A Horn said:

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230 million people in a highly successful clinical trial in uttar pradesh.

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Why are you opposed to the best option we have right now at preventing a deadly virus from killing people?

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Why are you trying to convince someone to try a medical intervention they have no interest in?

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I am not trying to convince him to try anything. For all I know, he's already had COVID and getting a vaccine would only be very slightly better than the immunity he already has. Maybe he is allergic to ingredients in the vaccines or has a medical history that would be disqualifying. However, I find assorted falsehood he offers as facts, like 300 athletes dead from vaccines(!) or the false claim that vaccines don't do anything to be annoying and, for those unfortunate enough to believe it, dangerous.

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Natural immunity is far better than any immunity the vaccine could provide.

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Not for 800,000 Americans.

---

Yes, our focus on preventing the illness has left us with our pants down when it comes to treating the illness. The downplay of therapeutics by those in power is despicable.

---

They're going with the best evidence available. Personal success stories aren't the same as controlled studies. That is basic science. I am constantly amazed that people with college degrees don't understand it.

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If there is evidence available that other countries, which have used therapeutics to treat the illness, have a far better death rate, would you consider that some evidence that the therapeutics might work?

We were dealing with a unique virus and were learning on the fly. We should have thrown every safe and available option at it, even if a controlled study did not provide definitive proof it worked. Discrediting safe therapeutics that may have worked was a mistake.

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It might.
However, compared with the United States, many of these other countries have very different population profiles so that a comparison may not be meaningful. (And the evidence from India for Ivermectin, for example, is, unfortunately, not really good).

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Mothra said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Mothra said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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230 million people in a highly successful clinical trial in uttar pradesh.

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Why are you opposed to the best option we have right now at preventing a deadly virus from killing people?

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Why are you trying to convince someone to try a medical intervention they have no interest in?

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I am not trying to convince him to try anything. For all I know, he's already had COVID and getting a vaccine would only be very slightly better than the immunity he already has. Maybe he is allergic to ingredients in the vaccines or has a medical history that would be disqualifying. However, I find assorted falsehood he offers as facts, like 300 athletes dead from vaccines(!) or the false claim that vaccines don't do anything to be annoying and, for those unfortunate enough to believe it, dangerous.

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Natural immunity is far better than any immunity the vaccine could provide.

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Not for 800,000 Americans.

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Yes, our focus on preventing the illness has left us with our pants down when it comes to treating the illness. The downplay of therapeutics by those in power is despicable.

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They're going with the best evidence available. Personal success stories aren't the same as controlled studies. That is basic science. I am constantly amazed that people with college degrees don't understand it.

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If there is evidence available that other countries, which have used therapeutics to treat the illness, have a far better death rate, would you consider that some evidence that the therapeutics might work?

We were dealing with a unique virus and were learning on the fly. We should have thrown every safe and available option at it, even if a controlled study did not provide definitive proof it worked. Discrediting safe therapeutics that may have worked was a mistake.

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It might.
However, compared with the United States, many of these other countries have very different population profiles so that a comparison may not be meaningful. (And the evidence from India for Ivermectin, for example, is, unfortunately, not really good).

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Who knows

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D. C. Bear said:

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RMF5630 said:

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Mothra said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Married A Horn said:

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230 million people in a highly successful clinical trial in uttar pradesh.

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Why are you opposed to the best option we have right now at preventing a deadly virus from killing people?

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Why are you trying to convince someone to try a medical intervention they have no interest in?

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I am not trying to convince him to try anything. For all I know, he's already had COVID and getting a vaccine would only be very slightly better than the immunity he already has. Maybe he is allergic to ingredients in the vaccines or has a medical history that would be disqualifying. However, I find assorted falsehood he offers as facts, like 300 athletes dead from vaccines(!) or the false claim that vaccines don't do anything to be annoying and, for those unfortunate enough to believe it, dangerous.

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Natural immunity is far better than any immunity the vaccine could provide.

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I think you are missing the point of vaccines. Some people's natural immunity may be better, but it is not consistent and sporadic. Inoculations give a standard level across the board at scale without killing or making very sick 1% of the population. Even if they don't die, we can't have large portions of the work force out for extended periods of time. Vaccines give a low risk option, not no risk but low risk for the whole.

You do not make public policy based on you or any individual, inoculations allow a base level protection for the Country. That is why we need a policy, implemented through the States as stipulated in Constitution. Health is for the States to handle, all for it.

If you choose not to get it, fine. Your choice, but it could impact conveniences and livelihoods.

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He isn't talking about natural immunity prior to infection. He is talking about immunity acquired by getting the virus vs immunity acquired by getting the vaccine.

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RMF5630 said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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RMF5630 said:

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Mothra said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Married A Horn said:

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230 million people in a highly successful clinical trial in uttar pradesh.

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Why are you opposed to the best option we have right now at preventing a deadly virus from killing people?

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Why are you trying to convince someone to try a medical intervention they have no interest in?

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I am not trying to convince him to try anything. For all I know, he's already had COVID and getting a vaccine would only be very slightly better than the immunity he already has. Maybe he is allergic to ingredients in the vaccines or has a medical history that would be disqualifying. However, I find assorted falsehood he offers as facts, like 300 athletes dead from vaccines(!) or the false claim that vaccines don't do anything to be annoying and, for those unfortunate enough to believe it, dangerous.

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Natural immunity is far better than any immunity the vaccine could provide.

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I think you are missing the point of vaccines. Some people's natural immunity may be better, but it is not consistent and sporadic. Inoculations give a standard level across the board at scale without killing or making very sick 1% of the population. Even if they don't die, we can't have large portions of the work force out for extended periods of time. Vaccines give a low risk option, not no risk but low risk for the whole.

You do not make public policy based on you or any individual, inoculations allow a base level protection for the Country. That is why we need a policy, implemented through the States as stipulated in Constitution. Health is for the States to handle, all for it.

If you choose not to get it, fine. Your choice, but it could impact conveniences and livelihoods.

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He isn't talking about natural immunity prior to infection. He is talking about immunity acquired by getting the virus vs immunity acquired by getting the vaccine.

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I get that. I am talking the same. Natural immunity after getting a disease varies from person to person. I am talking public policy decisions for a Nation of 360 million versus an individual decision based on individual factors. Vaccines provide a documentable level in a method that can be put out to the masses. Therapeutics and natural immunity don't do that or provide the mechanism to bring a disease under control.

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D. C. Bear said:

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RMF5630 said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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RMF5630 said:

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Mothra said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Married A Horn said:

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230 million people in a highly successful clinical trial in uttar pradesh.

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Why are you opposed to the best option we have right now at preventing a deadly virus from killing people?

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Why are you trying to convince someone to try a medical intervention they have no interest in?

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I am not trying to convince him to try anything. For all I know, he's already had COVID and getting a vaccine would only be very slightly better than the immunity he already has. Maybe he is allergic to ingredients in the vaccines or has a medical history that would be disqualifying. However, I find assorted falsehood he offers as facts, like 300 athletes dead from vaccines(!) or the false claim that vaccines don't do anything to be annoying and, for those unfortunate enough to believe it, dangerous.

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Natural immunity is far better than any immunity the vaccine could provide.

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I think you are missing the point of vaccines. Some people's natural immunity may be better, but it is not consistent and sporadic. Inoculations give a standard level across the board at scale without killing or making very sick 1% of the population. Even if they don't die, we can't have large portions of the work force out for extended periods of time. Vaccines give a low risk option, not no risk but low risk for the whole.

You do not make public policy based on you or any individual, inoculations allow a base level protection for the Country. That is why we need a policy, implemented through the States as stipulated in Constitution. Health is for the States to handle, all for it.

If you choose not to get it, fine. Your choice, but it could impact conveniences and livelihoods.

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He isn't talking about natural immunity prior to infection. He is talking about immunity acquired by getting the virus vs immunity acquired by getting the vaccine.

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I get that. I am talking the same. Natural immunity after getting a disease varies from person to person. I am talking public policy decisions for a Nation of 360 million versus an individual decision based on individual factors. Vaccines provide a documentable level in a method that can be put out to the masses. Therapeutics and natural immunity don't do that or provide the mechanism to bring a disease under control.

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Reinfection rates are very, very low from everything I have seen reported, so it appears "natural immunity" would bring the pandemic under control as will vaccination (and as would effective treatments). However, vaccination would bring it under control with far fewer deaths and hospitalizations given the data we see today.

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clubhi said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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RMF5630 said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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RMF5630 said:

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Mothra said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Married A Horn said:

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230 million people in a highly successful clinical trial in uttar pradesh.

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Why are you opposed to the best option we have right now at preventing a deadly virus from killing people?

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Why are you trying to convince someone to try a medical intervention they have no interest in?

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I am not trying to convince him to try anything. For all I know, he's already had COVID and getting a vaccine would only be very slightly better than the immunity he already has. Maybe he is allergic to ingredients in the vaccines or has a medical history that would be disqualifying. However, I find assorted falsehood he offers as facts, like 300 athletes dead from vaccines(!) or the false claim that vaccines don't do anything to be annoying and, for those unfortunate enough to believe it, dangerous.

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Natural immunity is far better than any immunity the vaccine could provide.

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I think you are missing the point of vaccines. Some people's natural immunity may be better, but it is not consistent and sporadic. Inoculations give a standard level across the board at scale without killing or making very sick 1% of the population. Even if they don't die, we can't have large portions of the work force out for extended periods of time. Vaccines give a low risk option, not no risk but low risk for the whole.

You do not make public policy based on you or any individual, inoculations allow a base level protection for the Country. That is why we need a policy, implemented through the States as stipulated in Constitution. Health is for the States to handle, all for it.

If you choose not to get it, fine. Your choice, but it could impact conveniences and livelihoods.

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He isn't talking about natural immunity prior to infection. He is talking about immunity acquired by getting the virus vs immunity acquired by getting the vaccine.

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I get that. I am talking the same. Natural immunity after getting a disease varies from person to person. I am talking public policy decisions for a Nation of 360 million versus an individual decision based on individual factors. Vaccines provide a documentable level in a method that can be put out to the masses. Therapeutics and natural immunity don't do that or provide the mechanism to bring a disease under control.

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Reinfection rates are very, very low from everything I have seen reported, so it appears "natural immunity" would bring the pandemic under control as will vaccination (and as would effective treatments). However, vaccination would bring it under control with far fewer deaths and hospitalizations given the data we see today.

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maga is going to be throwing COVID parties every year to keep that natural immunity going

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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clubhi said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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RMF5630 said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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RMF5630 said:

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Mothra said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Married A Horn said:

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230 million people in a highly successful clinical trial in uttar pradesh.

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Why are you opposed to the best option we have right now at preventing a deadly virus from killing people?

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Why are you trying to convince someone to try a medical intervention they have no interest in?

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I am not trying to convince him to try anything. For all I know, he's already had COVID and getting a vaccine would only be very slightly better than the immunity he already has. Maybe he is allergic to ingredients in the vaccines or has a medical history that would be disqualifying. However, I find assorted falsehood he offers as facts, like 300 athletes dead from vaccines(!) or the false claim that vaccines don't do anything to be annoying and, for those unfortunate enough to believe it, dangerous.

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Natural immunity is far better than any immunity the vaccine could provide.

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I think you are missing the point of vaccines. Some people's natural immunity may be better, but it is not consistent and sporadic. Inoculations give a standard level across the board at scale without killing or making very sick 1% of the population. Even if they don't die, we can't have large portions of the work force out for extended periods of time. Vaccines give a low risk option, not no risk but low risk for the whole.

You do not make public policy based on you or any individual, inoculations allow a base level protection for the Country. That is why we need a policy, implemented through the States as stipulated in Constitution. Health is for the States to handle, all for it.

If you choose not to get it, fine. Your choice, but it could impact conveniences and livelihoods.

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He isn't talking about natural immunity prior to infection. He is talking about immunity acquired by getting the virus vs immunity acquired by getting the vaccine.

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I get that. I am talking the same. Natural immunity after getting a disease varies from person to person. I am talking public policy decisions for a Nation of 360 million versus an individual decision based on individual factors. Vaccines provide a documentable level in a method that can be put out to the masses. Therapeutics and natural immunity don't do that or provide the mechanism to bring a disease under control.

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Reinfection rates are very, very low from everything I have seen reported, so it appears "natural immunity" would bring the pandemic under control as will vaccination (and as would effective treatments). However, vaccination would bring it under control with far fewer deaths and hospitalizations given the data we see today.

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maga is going to be throwing COVID parties every year to keep that natural immunity going

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Not a bad idea

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clubhi said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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RMF5630 said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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RMF5630 said:

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Mothra said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Amal Shuq-Up said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Married A Horn said:

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230 million people in a highly successful clinical trial in uttar pradesh.

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Why are you opposed to the best option we have right now at preventing a deadly virus from killing people?

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Why are you trying to convince someone to try a medical intervention they have no interest in?

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I am not trying to convince him to try anything. For all I know, he's already had COVID and getting a vaccine would only be very slightly better than the immunity he already has. Maybe he is allergic to ingredients in the vaccines or has a medical history that would be disqualifying. However, I find assorted falsehood he offers as facts, like 300 athletes dead from vaccines(!) or the false claim that vaccines don't do anything to be annoying and, for those unfortunate enough to believe it, dangerous.

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Natural immunity is far better than any immunity the vaccine could provide.

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I think you are missing the point of vaccines. Some people's natural immunity may be better, but it is not consistent and sporadic. Inoculations give a standard level across the board at scale without killing or making very sick 1% of the population. Even if they don't die, we can't have large portions of the work force out for extended periods of time. Vaccines give a low risk option, not no risk but low risk for the whole.

You do not make public policy based on you or any individual, inoculations allow a base level protection for the Country. That is why we need a policy, implemented through the States as stipulated in Constitution. Health is for the States to handle, all for it.

If you choose not to get it, fine. Your choice, but it could impact conveniences and livelihoods.

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He isn't talking about natural immunity prior to infection. He is talking about immunity acquired by getting the virus vs immunity acquired by getting the vaccine.

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I get that. I am talking the same. Natural immunity after getting a disease varies from person to person. I am talking public policy decisions for a Nation of 360 million versus an individual decision based on individual factors. Vaccines provide a documentable level in a method that can be put out to the masses. Therapeutics and natural immunity don't do that or provide the mechanism to bring a disease under control.

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Reinfection rates are very, very low from everything I have seen reported, so it appears "natural immunity" would bring the pandemic under control as will vaccination (and as would effective treatments). However, vaccination would bring it under control with far fewer deaths and hospitalizations given the data we see today.

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maga is going to be throwing COVID parties every year to keep that natural immunity going

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