COVID Vaccine Inrease Risk of Heart Inflammation?

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BearTruth13 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

BearTruth13 said:

OP is now into Russian sources. Completely fallen off the deep end over the vax. Sad.
As far as I can tell, the American Heart Association is not a Russian source. You are officially a Branch Covidian. You are a good and loyal foot soldier.


Nah. I don't post one way or another about the vax nearly as much as you or Mothra. Nearly every post of y'all's is related to the vax.


Clearly you don't read many of my posts. In either regard it's not terribly unusual to see a lost of posts on whatever topic is relevant to society at the moment.
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Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

clubhi said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

https://news.yahoo.com/most-reported-u-omicron-cases-182642515.html

What a farce! Never seen so many people just giddy over something that does not work. And it appears they will continue to stand in line come back for more.


We will just continue to get the jab every time a variant comes out. Numerous vaccinations are perfectly safe!
Agreed. Glad to see you've come around.

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Only a few months of testing?
lmao. you are going to use this line until you die of measles
I took the sheep dewormer, and it ended up about as bad as a very mild cold.
Post hoc ergo propter hoc.


No I rely on the advice of my doctor. She has treated around 2,300 patients with a similar protocol including my 81 year old in-laws. Only one patient has died and he got to her on day 14 and was in ICU. I've listened to a lot of doctors with similar stories.

I realize your only solution to this illness is jabs ad infinitum. I prefer to listen to the advice of a physician who believe ivermectin has saved a lot of people. And I'm thankful for the natural immunity which is far superior to your jabs ad infinitum.
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BearTruth13 said:

OP is now into Russian sources. Completely fallen off the deep end over the vax. Sad.


You're engaging in an ad hominem, just FYI.

I'd suggest verifying what the link said and cross referencing other sources. If you feel what was said was inaccurate I'll gladly eat crow.

And I'll save you the suspense - there are lots of domestic news sources that report the exact same thing. But let me know if you dispute it. Otherwise I'll just assume you didn't read it.
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Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

clubhi said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

https://news.yahoo.com/most-reported-u-omicron-cases-182642515.html

What a farce! Never seen so many people just giddy over something that does not work. And it appears they will continue to stand in line come back for more.


We will just continue to get the jab every time a variant comes out. Numerous vaccinations are perfectly safe!
Agreed. Glad to see you've come around.

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Only a few months of testing?
lmao. you are going to use this line until you die of measles
I took the sheep dewormer, and it ended up about as bad as a very mild cold.
Post hoc ergo propter hoc.


No I rely on the advice of my doctor. She has treated around 2,300 patients with a similar protocol including my 81 year old in-laws. Only one patient has died and he got to her on day 14 and was in ICU. I've listened to a number of doctors with similar stories.

I realize your only solution to this illness is jabs ad infinitum. I prefer to listen to the advice of a physician who believe ivermectin has saved a lot of people. And I'm thankful for the natural immunity which is far superior to your jabs ad infinitum.
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Mothra said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

clubhi said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

https://news.yahoo.com/most-reported-u-omicron-cases-182642515.html

What a farce! Never seen so many people just giddy over something that does not work. And it appears they will continue to stand in line come back for more.


We will just continue to get the jab every time a variant comes out. Numerous vaccinations are perfectly safe!
Agreed. Glad to see you've come around.

]

Only a few months of testing?
lmao. you are going to use this line until you die of measles
I took the sheep dewormer, and it ended up about as bad as a very mild cold.
Post hoc ergo propter hoc.


No I rely on the advice of my doctor. She has treated around 2,300 patients with a similar protocol including my 81 year old in-laws. Only one patient has died and he got to her on day 14 and was in ICU. I've listened to a number of doctors with similar stories.

I realize your only solution to this illness is jabs ad infinitum. I prefer to listen to the advice of a physician who believe ivermectin has saved a lot of people. And I'm thankful for the natural immunity which is far superior to your jabs ad infinitum.



In the population as a whole, "natural immunity" to COVID is not superior to that provided by a vaccination for first-time infections. If it was, we would not have had a pandemic. Both are highly effective against later infections, with reinfection rates being very low whether someone is vaccinated or not.
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Mothra said:

BearTruth13 said:

OP is now into Russian sources. Completely fallen off the deep end over the vax. Sad.


You're engaging in an ad hominem, just FYI.

I'd suggest verifying what the link said and cross referencing other sources. If you feel what was said was inaccurate I'll gladly eat crow.

And I'll save you the suspense - there are lots of domestic news sources that report the exact same thing. But let me know if you dispute it. Otherwise I'll just assume you didn't read it.


"Report the exact same thing?" What would that "exact same thing be?" The American Heart Association says that it printed a abstract for a poster presentation that turned out to be garbage. You posted it as though the poster itself was a warning from the American Heart Association instead of a flawed poster from a former cardiac surgeon who sells dietary supplements.
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Mothra said:

D. C. Bear said:

Mothra said:

D. C. Bear said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

https://news.yahoo.com/most-reported-u-omicron-cases-182642515.html

What a farce! Never seen so many people just giddy over something that does not work. And it appears they will continue to stand in line come back for more.


We will just continue to get the jab every time a variant comes out. Numerous vaccinations are perfectly safe!
Agreed. Glad to see you've come around.

I'd suggest you get jabbed as much as possible.
I'll do a risk benefit analysis. Right now the benefit far outweighs the risk, not even close


Good. I think you really need to get jabbbed all the time. Covid is pretty scary.
You've received 2 vaccinations; I've received 3.

Tell me about my medical history


You must have misunderstood. I've received no vaccinations for covid. I got it about a month and a half ago, and it was about as bad as a very mild cold but unlike a lot of people, I did my research on treatments and have a doctor that knows that to prescribe. Took ivermectin, high dose vitamin C, D and zinc, aspirin and a z pac. Knocked it out in about 2 weeks. Only lingering issue is my smell hasn't completely returned.


For most people, it is like a mild cold whether you treat it or not.


Most of the people I've talked to described it as more akin to the flu. Pretty high fever for a day or two and body aches. Some had bad chest congestion. I didn't even get fever, thankfully, but as I said, my doctor knows how to treat it.


"Most of the people" we talk aren't a random sample. People with more symptoms are more likely to talk about it. A lot of people get it and don't know it.


Mere conclusory statements aren't a random sample either, just FYI. You have no more evidence to support your position than I do.



There is plenty of evidence that many COVID cases don't display symptoms. If someone does not know that they have the virus, they cannot talk to you about it. Since the vast majority of COVID cases resolve without intervention of any kind, it is impossible to know whether your course of treatment made any difference in the course of your particular case. This is what clinical trials are for.
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Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:


https://www.rt.com/news/542078-twitter-heart-association-unsafe-vaccines/

Good to know an organ of Russian propaganda (RT.com) is concerned about American vaccines

RT (formerly Russia Today) is a Russian state-controlled[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rt.com#cite_note-state_media-1][1][/url] international television network funded by the federal tax budget of the Russian government.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network)

It's interesting (and perhaps, telling) that your initial inclination was to attack the messenger.

There are plenty of articles regarding twitter censoring the information in question. A simple google search would have revealed that (see below), if you were concerned the article was posting false info. I am not sure if you read the article, but that's the reason it was posted. The RT article doesn't express concern over American vaccines, but merely talks about the AHA abstract and the twitter censorship.
It's interesting that you chose RT.com and not "plenty of articles" to support your case. You have access to Google, but chose Rt.com. That Putin is a rascal
I am trying to understand your argument, if you in fact have one. Do you dispute that twitter put a warning label on the abstract from the American Heart Association?

If you want to engage in an irrelevant ad hominem on RT, you are welcome to it. I don't really care, as long as you don't dispute the substance. It's always easier to attack the messenger, as it takes the focus off the lack of substance in your posts.


Back to the top. YES, Twitter did post a warning "on an abstract from the American Heart Association," BUT the American Heart Association also placed a warning on that same abstract.
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Mothra said:

clubhi said:

I agree, ivermectin is amazing. I just don't see what it had to do with a conversation in treating Covid, milk toast


Of course you don't understand. You're pretty glib on most subjects and willing to swallow whatever the powers that be feed you.

My internist has treated around 2300 people with covid with a very similar protocol. Only one has died and he got to her on day 14. And her patients include my 81 year old in laws. They came out just fine.

But please if you get it, don't use a drug that might be able to help you fight the illness. You continue to rely on those jabs ad infinitum.
I wonder if I should believe the virologist I grew up with or the loser that takes horse medicine based off anecdotal and politics. lmao
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clubhi said:

Mothra said:

clubhi said:

I agree, ivermectin is amazing. I just don't see what it had to do with a conversation in treating Covid, milk toast


Of course you don't understand. You're pretty glib on most subjects and willing to swallow whatever the powers that be feed you.

My internist has treated around 2300 people with covid with a very similar protocol. Only one has died and he got to her on day 14. And her patients include my 81 year old in laws. They came out just fine.

But please if you get it, don't use a drug that might be able to help you fight the illness. You continue to rely on those jabs ad infinitum.
I wonder if I should believe the virologist I grew up with or the loser that takes horse medicine based off anecdotal and politics. lmao


I don't give a **** who you believe, cinque. I believe my internist and the results.
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D. C. Bear said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:


https://www.rt.com/news/542078-twitter-heart-association-unsafe-vaccines/

Good to know an organ of Russian propaganda (RT.com) is concerned about American vaccines

RT (formerly Russia Today) is a Russian state-controlled[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rt.com#cite_note-state_media-1][1][/url] international television network funded by the federal tax budget of the Russian government.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network)

It's interesting (and perhaps, telling) that your initial inclination was to attack the messenger.

There are plenty of articles regarding twitter censoring the information in question. A simple google search would have revealed that (see below), if you were concerned the article was posting false info. I am not sure if you read the article, but that's the reason it was posted. The RT article doesn't express concern over American vaccines, but merely talks about the AHA abstract and the twitter censorship.
It's interesting that you chose RT.com and not "plenty of articles" to support your case. You have access to Google, but chose Rt.com. That Putin is a rascal
I am trying to understand your argument, if you in fact have one. Do you dispute that twitter put a warning label on the abstract from the American Heart Association?

If you want to engage in an irrelevant ad hominem on RT, you are welcome to it. I don't really care, as long as you don't dispute the substance. It's always easier to attack the messenger, as it takes the focus off the lack of substance in your posts.


Back to the top. YES, Twitter did post a warning "on an abstract from the American Heart Association," BUT the American Heart Association also placed a warning on that same abstract.


Never disputed that. Glad you agree that the link from RT is accurate. Some here believe it's Russian propaganda.
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Mothra said:

clubhi said:

Mothra said:

clubhi said:

I agree, ivermectin is amazing. I just don't see what it had to do with a conversation in treating Covid, milk toast


Of course you don't understand. You're pretty glib on most subjects and willing to swallow whatever the powers that be feed you.

My internist has treated around 2300 people with covid with a very similar protocol. Only one has died and he got to her on day 14. And her patients include my 81 year old in laws. They came out just fine.

But please if you get it, don't use a drug that might be able to help you fight the illness. You continue to rely on those jabs ad infinitum.
I wonder if I should believe the virologist I grew up with or the loser that takes horse medicine based off anecdotal and politics. lmao


I don't give a **** who you believe, cinque. I believe my internist and the results.
I know you are new to the forums but we already established I'm not your boyfriend cinque. It doesn't surprise me that you cling to conspiracy theories with proof right in front of you.
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Uh huh.
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Mothra said:

Uh huh.
Does your "internist" also confuse milquetoast with milk-toast? lmao what a joke you are
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Mothra said:

D. C. Bear said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:


https://www.rt.com/news/542078-twitter-heart-association-unsafe-vaccines/

Good to know an organ of Russian propaganda (RT.com) is concerned about American vaccines

RT (formerly Russia Today) is a Russian state-controlled[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rt.com#cite_note-state_media-1][1][/url] international television network funded by the federal tax budget of the Russian government.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network)

It's interesting (and perhaps, telling) that your initial inclination was to attack the messenger.

There are plenty of articles regarding twitter censoring the information in question. A simple google search would have revealed that (see below), if you were concerned the article was posting false info. I am not sure if you read the article, but that's the reason it was posted. The RT article doesn't express concern over American vaccines, but merely talks about the AHA abstract and the twitter censorship.
It's interesting that you chose RT.com and not "plenty of articles" to support your case. You have access to Google, but chose Rt.com. That Putin is a rascal
I am trying to understand your argument, if you in fact have one. Do you dispute that twitter put a warning label on the abstract from the American Heart Association?

If you want to engage in an irrelevant ad hominem on RT, you are welcome to it. I don't really care, as long as you don't dispute the substance. It's always easier to attack the messenger, as it takes the focus off the lack of substance in your posts.


Back to the top. YES, Twitter did post a warning "on an abstract from the American Heart Association," BUT the American Heart Association also placed a warning on that same abstract.


Never disputed that. Glad you agree that the link from RT is accurate. Some here believe it's Russian propaganda.


It is more fair and balanced than your deceptive post was, there is no doubt about that.
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clubhi said:

Mothra said:

Uh huh.
Does your "internist" also confuse milquetoast with milk-toast? lmao what a joke you are


You still yipping sheep humper? It's interesting I still live inside your head.

I'd suggest taking a break and getting some fresh air. It's not healthy to hang onto my every word.
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Mothra said:

clubhi said:

Mothra said:

Uh huh.
Does your "internist" also confuse milquetoast with milk-toast? lmao what a joke you are


You still yipping sheep humper? It's interesting I still live inside your head.

I'd suggest taking a break and getting some fresh air. It's not healthy to hang onto my every word.
It's like 35 degrees out. Welcome to the board milktoast
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D. C. Bear said:

Mothra said:

D. C. Bear said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:


https://www.rt.com/news/542078-twitter-heart-association-unsafe-vaccines/

Good to know an organ of Russian propaganda (RT.com) is concerned about American vaccines

RT (formerly Russia Today) is a Russian state-controlled[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rt.com#cite_note-state_media-1][1][/url] international television network funded by the federal tax budget of the Russian government.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network)

It's interesting (and perhaps, telling) that your initial inclination was to attack the messenger.

There are plenty of articles regarding twitter censoring the information in question. A simple google search would have revealed that (see below), if you were concerned the article was posting false info. I am not sure if you read the article, but that's the reason it was posted. The RT article doesn't express concern over American vaccines, but merely talks about the AHA abstract and the twitter censorship.
It's interesting that you chose RT.com and not "plenty of articles" to support your case. You have access to Google, but chose Rt.com. That Putin is a rascal
I am trying to understand your argument, if you in fact have one. Do you dispute that twitter put a warning label on the abstract from the American Heart Association?

If you want to engage in an irrelevant ad hominem on RT, you are welcome to it. I don't really care, as long as you don't dispute the substance. It's always easier to attack the messenger, as it takes the focus off the lack of substance in your posts.


Back to the top. YES, Twitter did post a warning "on an abstract from the American Heart Association," BUT the American Heart Association also placed a warning on that same abstract.


Never disputed that. Glad you agree that the link from RT is accurate. Some here believe it's Russian propaganda.


It is more fair and balanced than your deceptive post was, there is no doubt about that.


Not going to debate your lies again. Go find a brick wall.
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clubhi said:

Mothra said:

clubhi said:

Mothra said:

Uh huh.
Does your "internist" also confuse milquetoast with milk-toast? lmao what a joke you are


You still yipping sheep humper? It's interesting I still live inside your head.

I'd suggest taking a break and getting some fresh air. It's not healthy to hang onto my every word.
It's like 35 degrees out. Welcome to the board milktoast


Too cold for you little guy? Interesting. I already jogged 3 miles.

To each his own.
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Mothra said:

clubhi said:

Mothra said:

clubhi said:

Mothra said:

Uh huh.
Does your "internist" also confuse milquetoast with milk-toast? lmao what a joke you are


You still yipping sheep humper? It's interesting I still live inside your head.

I'd suggest taking a break and getting some fresh air. It's not healthy to hang onto my every word.
It's like 35 degrees out. Welcome to the board milktoast


Too cold for you little guy? Interesting. I already jogged 3 miles.

To each his own.
You should move your medicine barn closer to the trailer
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D. C. Bear said:

Mothra said:

D. C. Bear said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:


https://www.rt.com/news/542078-twitter-heart-association-unsafe-vaccines/

Good to know an organ of Russian propaganda (RT.com) is concerned about American vaccines

RT (formerly Russia Today) is a Russian state-controlled[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rt.com#cite_note-state_media-1][1][/url] international television network funded by the federal tax budget of the Russian government.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network)

It's interesting (and perhaps, telling) that your initial inclination was to attack the messenger.

There are plenty of articles regarding twitter censoring the information in question. A simple google search would have revealed that (see below), if you were concerned the article was posting false info. I am not sure if you read the article, but that's the reason it was posted. The RT article doesn't express concern over American vaccines, but merely talks about the AHA abstract and the twitter censorship.
It's interesting that you chose RT.com and not "plenty of articles" to support your case. You have access to Google, but chose Rt.com. That Putin is a rascal
I am trying to understand your argument, if you in fact have one. Do you dispute that twitter put a warning label on the abstract from the American Heart Association?

If you want to engage in an irrelevant ad hominem on RT, you are welcome to it. I don't really care, as long as you don't dispute the substance. It's always easier to attack the messenger, as it takes the focus off the lack of substance in your posts.


Back to the top. YES, Twitter did post a warning "on an abstract from the American Heart Association," BUT the American Heart Association also placed a warning on that same abstract.


Never disputed that. Glad you agree that the link from RT is accurate. Some here believe it's Russian propaganda.


It is more fair and balanced than your deceptive post was, there is no doubt about that.
True
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Mothra said:

D. C. Bear said:

Mothra said:

D. C. Bear said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:


https://www.rt.com/news/542078-twitter-heart-association-unsafe-vaccines/

Good to know an organ of Russian propaganda (RT.com) is concerned about American vaccines

RT (formerly Russia Today) is a Russian state-controlled[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rt.com#cite_note-state_media-1][1][/url] international television network funded by the federal tax budget of the Russian government.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network)

It's interesting (and perhaps, telling) that your initial inclination was to attack the messenger.

There are plenty of articles regarding twitter censoring the information in question. A simple google search would have revealed that (see below), if you were concerned the article was posting false info. I am not sure if you read the article, but that's the reason it was posted. The RT article doesn't express concern over American vaccines, but merely talks about the AHA abstract and the twitter censorship.
It's interesting that you chose RT.com and not "plenty of articles" to support your case. You have access to Google, but chose Rt.com. That Putin is a rascal
I am trying to understand your argument, if you in fact have one. Do you dispute that twitter put a warning label on the abstract from the American Heart Association?

If you want to engage in an irrelevant ad hominem on RT, you are welcome to it. I don't really care, as long as you don't dispute the substance. It's always easier to attack the messenger, as it takes the focus off the lack of substance in your posts.


Back to the top. YES, Twitter did post a warning "on an abstract from the American Heart Association," BUT the American Heart Association also placed a warning on that same abstract.


Never disputed that. Glad you agree that the link from RT is accurate. Some here believe it's Russian propaganda.


It is more fair and balanced than your deceptive post was, there is no doubt about that.


Not going to debate your lies again. Go find a brick wall.


Anyone reading your post and those that follow knows where the deception in this thread is coming from: you.

You started a thread to tell us how bad Twitter was for putting a warning on the truth that the American Heart Association, a generally credible source, was sharing. Your post was deceptive because Twitter wasn't doing anything that the American Heart Association wasn't doing with the same abstract. What you have done in this instance is both deceptive and despicable, and you should be ashamed of yourself for it.
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Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

BearTruth13 said:

OP is now into Russian sources. Completely fallen off the deep end over the vax. Sad.
As far as I can tell, the American Heart Association is not a Russian source.
So you believe them when they said the vaccine fear-mongering is garbage?
i condemn fear mongering on all levels, Sam. You should too. I am not scared of the vaccine because I have not taken it and don't have to worry about it! The vaccine is your worry, not mine.
Is that a yes or a no?
Have you stopped beating your spouse, yes or no?
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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D. C. Bear said:

Mothra said:

D. C. Bear said:

Mothra said:

D. C. Bear said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:


https://www.rt.com/news/542078-twitter-heart-association-unsafe-vaccines/

Good to know an organ of Russian propaganda (RT.com) is concerned about American vaccines

RT (formerly Russia Today) is a Russian state-controlled[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rt.com#cite_note-state_media-1][1][/url] international television network funded by the federal tax budget of the Russian government.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network)

It's interesting (and perhaps, telling) that your initial inclination was to attack the messenger.

There are plenty of articles regarding twitter censoring the information in question. A simple google search would have revealed that (see below), if you were concerned the article was posting false info. I am not sure if you read the article, but that's the reason it was posted. The RT article doesn't express concern over American vaccines, but merely talks about the AHA abstract and the twitter censorship.
It's interesting that you chose RT.com and not "plenty of articles" to support your case. You have access to Google, but chose Rt.com. That Putin is a rascal
I am trying to understand your argument, if you in fact have one. Do you dispute that twitter put a warning label on the abstract from the American Heart Association?

If you want to engage in an irrelevant ad hominem on RT, you are welcome to it. I don't really care, as long as you don't dispute the substance. It's always easier to attack the messenger, as it takes the focus off the lack of substance in your posts.


Back to the top. YES, Twitter did post a warning "on an abstract from the American Heart Association," BUT the American Heart Association also placed a warning on that same abstract.


Never disputed that. Glad you agree that the link from RT is accurate. Some here believe it's Russian propaganda.


It is more fair and balanced than your deceptive post was, there is no doubt about that.


Not going to debate your lies again. Go find a brick wall.


Anyone reading your post and those that follow knows where the deception in this thread is coming from: you.

You started a thread to tell us how bad Twitter was for putting a warning on the truth that the American Heart Association, a generally credible source, was sharing. Your post was deceptive because Twitter wasn't doing anything that the American Heart Association wasn't doing with the same abstract. What you have done in this instance is both deceptive and despicable, and you should be ashamed of yourself for it.


I know how much your enormous ego hates being told you are wrong, but you're wrong again.

The purpose of my post was to discuss the abstract. I posed a question on the OP and then posted the abstract. At the end I posted a link to an article discussing the Twitter warning.

If you research the abstract, Twitter first posted the warning after a number of people complained about it. AHA quickly followed suit (after all we can't have anyone who questions the safety of the vaccine) and has been backtracking ever since.

Of course all of this info was included in the links in the OP. But you think I created a deceptive impression. You vax Nazis are a hoot.
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Osodecentx said:

D. C. Bear said:

Mothra said:

D. C. Bear said:

Mothra said:

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https://www.rt.com/news/542078-twitter-heart-association-unsafe-vaccines/

Good to know an organ of Russian propaganda (RT.com) is concerned about American vaccines

RT (formerly Russia Today) is a Russian state-controlled[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rt.com#cite_note-state_media-1][1][/url] international television network funded by the federal tax budget of the Russian government.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network)

It's interesting (and perhaps, telling) that your initial inclination was to attack the messenger.

There are plenty of articles regarding twitter censoring the information in question. A simple google search would have revealed that (see below), if you were concerned the article was posting false info. I am not sure if you read the article, but that's the reason it was posted. The RT article doesn't express concern over American vaccines, but merely talks about the AHA abstract and the twitter censorship.
It's interesting that you chose RT.com and not "plenty of articles" to support your case. You have access to Google, but chose Rt.com. That Putin is a rascal
I am trying to understand your argument, if you in fact have one. Do you dispute that twitter put a warning label on the abstract from the American Heart Association?

If you want to engage in an irrelevant ad hominem on RT, you are welcome to it. I don't really care, as long as you don't dispute the substance. It's always easier to attack the messenger, as it takes the focus off the lack of substance in your posts.


Back to the top. YES, Twitter did post a warning "on an abstract from the American Heart Association," BUT the American Heart Association also placed a warning on that same abstract.


Never disputed that. Glad you agree that the link from RT is accurate. Some here believe it's Russian propaganda.


It is more fair and balanced than your deceptive post was, there is no doubt about that.
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Pete and repeat. Telling how much my thread has created angst among the VN.
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BearTruth13 said:

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OP is now into Russian sources. Completely fallen off the deep end over the vax. Sad.
As far as I can tell, the American Heart Association is not a Russian source. You are officially a Branch Covidian. You are a good and loyal foot soldier.


Nah. I don't post one way or another about the vax nearly as much as you or Mothra. Nearly every post of y'all's is related to the vax.
Do you have an opinion on the vax? (Not a trick question.) *****!


I think it doesn't really prevent infection all that much. Based on evidence so far, it does greatly reduce hospitalization or death. I'm not for mandates. But I find the fear over the vaccine very strange. Just like soccer moms that spent time on Internet forums and convinced themselves that vaccinations cause autism. That used to be considered a silly group of people.

Conservatives used to rail against slow government regulation. Now some seem to be pissed the FDA was able to cut through some of that red tape.

I do know that I know a couple thousand people personally (school, church, work, etc). I know of several that have died of COVID. I know of only a few that haven't taken the vaccine (they tend to be vocal about it). I know of no one that has died or been seriously impaired by the vaccine.

*****? Really?
You know several thousand people personally that have caught Covid? My, my you are quite the social butterfly.

I call bull s h i t !!!! I know less than 24. And I have about 24 years on you. And I know LOT of folks!

Yes. P USSY!!!! That is my final answer.


You asked for an answer and we're nothing but insulting in return.

Find a church to attend tomorrow morning. You'll be thankful you did.
I was out of line with you last night. Sorry. The Covid fear mongering and seeing people afraid of their own shadows is just frustrating. I would have hoped people would have figured out what is really going on at this point, but they haven't, and I don't think they ever will.

Once again, sorry for calling you the P word. That was uncalled for.
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

BearTruth13 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

BearTruth13 said:

OP is now into Russian sources. Completely fallen off the deep end over the vax. Sad.
As far as I can tell, the American Heart Association is not a Russian source. You are officially a Branch Covidian. You are a good and loyal foot soldier.


Nah. I don't post one way or another about the vax nearly as much as you or Mothra. Nearly every post of y'all's is related to the vax.
Do you have an opinion on the vax? (Not a trick question.) *****!


I think it doesn't really prevent infection all that much. Based on evidence so far, it does greatly reduce hospitalization or death. I'm not for mandates. But I find the fear over the vaccine very strange. Just like soccer moms that spent time on Internet forums and convinced themselves that vaccinations cause autism. That used to be considered a silly group of people.

Conservatives used to rail against slow government regulation. Now some seem to be pissed the FDA was able to cut through some of that red tape.

I do know that I know a couple thousand people personally (school, church, work, etc). I know of several that have died of COVID. I know of only a few that haven't taken the vaccine (they tend to be vocal about it). I know of no one that has died or been seriously impaired by the vaccine.

*****? Really?
You know several thousand people personally that have caught Covid? My, my you are quite the social butterfly.

I call bull s h i t !!!! I know less than 24. And I have about 24 years on you. And I know LOT of folks!

Yes. P USSY!!!! That is my final answer.


You asked for an answer and we're nothing but insulting in return.

Find a church to attend tomorrow morning. You'll be thankful you did.
people afraid of their own shadows
I think people are more afraid of morons being a constant drain to our healthcare.
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

BearTruth13 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

BearTruth13 said:

OP is now into Russian sources. Completely fallen off the deep end over the vax. Sad.
As far as I can tell, the American Heart Association is not a Russian source. You are officially a Branch Covidian. You are a good and loyal foot soldier.


Nah. I don't post one way or another about the vax nearly as much as you or Mothra. Nearly every post of y'all's is related to the vax.
Do you have an opinion on the vax? (Not a trick question.) *****!


I think it doesn't really prevent infection all that much. Based on evidence so far, it does greatly reduce hospitalization or death. I'm not for mandates. But I find the fear over the vaccine very strange. Just like soccer moms that spent time on Internet forums and convinced themselves that vaccinations cause autism. That used to be considered a silly group of people.

Conservatives used to rail against slow government regulation. Now some seem to be pissed the FDA was able to cut through some of that red tape.

I do know that I know a couple thousand people personally (school, church, work, etc). I know of several that have died of COVID. I know of only a few that haven't taken the vaccine (they tend to be vocal about it). I know of no one that has died or been seriously impaired by the vaccine.

*****? Really?
You know several thousand people personally that have caught Covid? My, my you are quite the social butterfly.

I call bull s h i t !!!! I know less than 24. And I have about 24 years on you. And I know LOT of folks!

Yes. P USSY!!!! That is my final answer.


You asked for an answer and we're nothing but insulting in return.

Find a church to attend tomorrow morning. You'll be thankful you did.
I was out of line with you last night. Sorry. The Covid fear mongering and seeing people afraid of their own shadows is just frustrating. I would have hoped people would have figured out what is really going on at this point, but they haven't, and I don't think they ever will.

Once again, sorry for calling you the P word. That was uncalled for.


Serious question in return. What is exactly going on? Is there any chance you are wrong?

I'm not fearful of COVID in any way. I live my life regularly and have the entire time. Travel, movies, eating out, bowling, whatever. No fear over here.

If anything, I see a lot of fearmongering over a shot. And I find it very odd.
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BearTruth13 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

BearTruth13 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

BearTruth13 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

BearTruth13 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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OP is now into Russian sources. Completely fallen off the deep end over the vax. Sad.
As far as I can tell, the American Heart Association is not a Russian source. You are officially a Branch Covidian. You are a good and loyal foot soldier.


Nah. I don't post one way or another about the vax nearly as much as you or Mothra. Nearly every post of y'all's is related to the vax.
Do you have an opinion on the vax? (Not a trick question.) *****!


I think it doesn't really prevent infection all that much. Based on evidence so far, it does greatly reduce hospitalization or death. I'm not for mandates. But I find the fear over the vaccine very strange. Just like soccer moms that spent time on Internet forums and convinced themselves that vaccinations cause autism. That used to be considered a silly group of people.

Conservatives used to rail against slow government regulation. Now some seem to be pissed the FDA was able to cut through some of that red tape.

I do know that I know a couple thousand people personally (school, church, work, etc). I know of several that have died of COVID. I know of only a few that haven't taken the vaccine (they tend to be vocal about it). I know of no one that has died or been seriously impaired by the vaccine.

*****? Really?
You know several thousand people personally that have caught Covid? My, my you are quite the social butterfly.

I call bull s h i t !!!! I know less than 24. And I have about 24 years on you. And I know LOT of folks!

Yes. P USSY!!!! That is my final answer.


You asked for an answer and we're nothing but insulting in return.

Find a church to attend tomorrow morning. You'll be thankful you did.
I was out of line with you last night. Sorry. The Covid fear mongering and seeing people afraid of their own shadows is just frustrating. I would have hoped people would have figured out what is really going on at this point, but they haven't, and I don't think they ever will.

Once again, sorry for calling you the P word. That was uncalled for.


Serious question in return. What is exactly going on? Is there any chance you are wrong?

I'm not fearful of COVID in any way. I live my life regularly and have the entire time. Travel, movies, eating out, bowling, whatever. No fear over here.

If anything, I see a lot of fearmongering over a shot. And I find it very odd.
I can't speak for him, but I suspect he's referring to lockdowns, mask mandates, forced closures of businesses that don't comply with vax mandates, etc. as the fear mongering he is referencing. Luckily, Texas has avoided most of this, but it's prevalent in other states and countries.
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Mothra said:

BearTruth13 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

BearTruth13 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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OP is now into Russian sources. Completely fallen off the deep end over the vax. Sad.
As far as I can tell, the American Heart Association is not a Russian source. You are officially a Branch Covidian. You are a good and loyal foot soldier.


Nah. I don't post one way or another about the vax nearly as much as you or Mothra. Nearly every post of y'all's is related to the vax.
Do you have an opinion on the vax? (Not a trick question.) *****!


I think it doesn't really prevent infection all that much. Based on evidence so far, it does greatly reduce hospitalization or death. I'm not for mandates. But I find the fear over the vaccine very strange. Just like soccer moms that spent time on Internet forums and convinced themselves that vaccinations cause autism. That used to be considered a silly group of people.

Conservatives used to rail against slow government regulation. Now some seem to be pissed the FDA was able to cut through some of that red tape.

I do know that I know a couple thousand people personally (school, church, work, etc). I know of several that have died of COVID. I know of only a few that haven't taken the vaccine (they tend to be vocal about it). I know of no one that has died or been seriously impaired by the vaccine.

*****? Really?
You know several thousand people personally that have caught Covid? My, my you are quite the social butterfly.

I call bull s h i t !!!! I know less than 24. And I have about 24 years on you. And I know LOT of folks!

Yes. P USSY!!!! That is my final answer.


You asked for an answer and we're nothing but insulting in return.

Find a church to attend tomorrow morning. You'll be thankful you did.
I was out of line with you last night. Sorry. The Covid fear mongering and seeing people afraid of their own shadows is just frustrating. I would have hoped people would have figured out what is really going on at this point, but they haven't, and I don't think they ever will.

Once again, sorry for calling you the P word. That was uncalled for.


Serious question in return. What is exactly going on? Is there any chance you are wrong?

I'm not fearful of COVID in any way. I live my life regularly and have the entire time. Travel, movies, eating out, bowling, whatever. No fear over here.

If anything, I see a lot of fearmongering over a shot. And I find it very odd.
I can't speak for him, but I suspect he's referring to lockdowns, mask mandates, forced closures of businesses that don't comply with vax mandates, etc. as the fear mongering he is referencing. Luckily, Texas has avoided most of this, but it's prevalent in other states and countries.


Except you guys live in Texas. So I don't really know what fearmongering you run into on a daily basis. I don't even know anyone that wears masks anymore. I see a lot more fearmongering from the few oddballs that haven't gotten the vaccine because they think it will kill them. It's all they talk about.

If you spend a lot of time watching cable news, you probably see an unhealthy dose of fearmongering. I suggest unplugging.
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BearTruth13 said:

Mothra said:

BearTruth13 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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OP is now into Russian sources. Completely fallen off the deep end over the vax. Sad.
As far as I can tell, the American Heart Association is not a Russian source. You are officially a Branch Covidian. You are a good and loyal foot soldier.


Nah. I don't post one way or another about the vax nearly as much as you or Mothra. Nearly every post of y'all's is related to the vax.
Do you have an opinion on the vax? (Not a trick question.) *****!


I think it doesn't really prevent infection all that much. Based on evidence so far, it does greatly reduce hospitalization or death. I'm not for mandates. But I find the fear over the vaccine very strange. Just like soccer moms that spent time on Internet forums and convinced themselves that vaccinations cause autism. That used to be considered a silly group of people.

Conservatives used to rail against slow government regulation. Now some seem to be pissed the FDA was able to cut through some of that red tape.

I do know that I know a couple thousand people personally (school, church, work, etc). I know of several that have died of COVID. I know of only a few that haven't taken the vaccine (they tend to be vocal about it). I know of no one that has died or been seriously impaired by the vaccine.

*****? Really?
You know several thousand people personally that have caught Covid? My, my you are quite the social butterfly.

I call bull s h i t !!!! I know less than 24. And I have about 24 years on you. And I know LOT of folks!

Yes. P USSY!!!! That is my final answer.


You asked for an answer and we're nothing but insulting in return.

Find a church to attend tomorrow morning. You'll be thankful you did.
I was out of line with you last night. Sorry. The Covid fear mongering and seeing people afraid of their own shadows is just frustrating. I would have hoped people would have figured out what is really going on at this point, but they haven't, and I don't think they ever will.

Once again, sorry for calling you the P word. That was uncalled for.


Serious question in return. What is exactly going on? Is there any chance you are wrong?

I'm not fearful of COVID in any way. I live my life regularly and have the entire time. Travel, movies, eating out, bowling, whatever. No fear over here.

If anything, I see a lot of fearmongering over a shot. And I find it very odd.
I can't speak for him, but I suspect he's referring to lockdowns, mask mandates, forced closures of businesses that don't comply with vax mandates, etc. as the fear mongering he is referencing. Luckily, Texas has avoided most of this, but it's prevalent in other states and countries.


Except you guys live in Texas. So I don't really know what fearmongering you run into on a daily basis. I don't even know anyone that wears masks anymore. I see a lot more fearmongering from the few oddballs that haven't gotten the vaccine because they think it will kill them. It's all they talk about.

If you spend a lot of time watching cable news, you probably see an unhealthy dose of fearmongering. I suggest unplugging.
I can make you a promise. When I die, it won't be due to the Covid vaccine.

Make sure you get that booster! The mighty Omicron variant is lurking. THE HORRRRORRR!!!!!!!!
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"

-- Barack Obama
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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OP is now into Russian sources. Completely fallen off the deep end over the vax. Sad.
As far as I can tell, the American Heart Association is not a Russian source. You are officially a Branch Covidian. You are a good and loyal foot soldier.


Nah. I don't post one way or another about the vax nearly as much as you or Mothra. Nearly every post of y'all's is related to the vax.
Do you have an opinion on the vax? (Not a trick question.) *****!


I think it doesn't really prevent infection all that much. Based on evidence so far, it does greatly reduce hospitalization or death. I'm not for mandates. But I find the fear over the vaccine very strange. Just like soccer moms that spent time on Internet forums and convinced themselves that vaccinations cause autism. That used to be considered a silly group of people.

Conservatives used to rail against slow government regulation. Now some seem to be pissed the FDA was able to cut through some of that red tape.

I do know that I know a couple thousand people personally (school, church, work, etc). I know of several that have died of COVID. I know of only a few that haven't taken the vaccine (they tend to be vocal about it). I know of no one that has died or been seriously impaired by the vaccine.

*****? Really?
You know several thousand people personally that have caught Covid? My, my you are quite the social butterfly.

I call bull s h i t !!!! I know less than 24. And I have about 24 years on you. And I know LOT of folks!

Yes. P USSY!!!! That is my final answer.


You asked for an answer and we're nothing but insulting in return.

Find a church to attend tomorrow morning. You'll be thankful you did.
I was out of line with you last night. Sorry. The Covid fear mongering and seeing people afraid of their own shadows is just frustrating. I would have hoped people would have figured out what is really going on at this point, but they haven't, and I don't think they ever will.

Once again, sorry for calling you the P word. That was uncalled for.


Serious question in return. What is exactly going on? Is there any chance you are wrong?

I'm not fearful of COVID in any way. I live my life regularly and have the entire time. Travel, movies, eating out, bowling, whatever. No fear over here.

If anything, I see a lot of fearmongering over a shot. And I find it very odd.
I can't speak for him, but I suspect he's referring to lockdowns, mask mandates, forced closures of businesses that don't comply with vax mandates, etc. as the fear mongering he is referencing. Luckily, Texas has avoided most of this, but it's prevalent in other states and countries.


Except you guys live in Texas. So I don't really know what fearmongering you run into on a daily basis. I don't even know anyone that wears masks anymore. I see a lot more fearmongering from the few oddballs that haven't gotten the vaccine because they think it will kill them. It's all they talk about.

If you spend a lot of time watching cable news, you probably see an unhealthy dose of fearmongering. I suggest unplugging.
I can make you a promise. When I die, it won't be due to the Covid vaccine.

Make sure you get that booster! The mighty Omicron variant is lurking. THE HORRRRORRR!!!!!!!!


Might want to knock on wood. Over the past 2 years, it has been the 3rd leading cause of death (especially for 50 and over). You probably won't but it isn't that unlikely. That's not fearmongering just an observation.

Can you answer though? What exactly is happening? I want your true perspective. No jokes.
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clubhi said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

BearTruth13 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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OP is now into Russian sources. Completely fallen off the deep end over the vax. Sad.
As far as I can tell, the American Heart Association is not a Russian source. You are officially a Branch Covidian. You are a good and loyal foot soldier.


Nah. I don't post one way or another about the vax nearly as much as you or Mothra. Nearly every post of y'all's is related to the vax.
Do you have an opinion on the vax? (Not a trick question.) *****!


I think it doesn't really prevent infection all that much. Based on evidence so far, it does greatly reduce hospitalization or death. I'm not for mandates. But I find the fear over the vaccine very strange. Just like soccer moms that spent time on Internet forums and convinced themselves that vaccinations cause autism. That used to be considered a silly group of people.

Conservatives used to rail against slow government regulation. Now some seem to be pissed the FDA was able to cut through some of that red tape.

I do know that I know a couple thousand people personally (school, church, work, etc). I know of several that have died of COVID. I know of only a few that haven't taken the vaccine (they tend to be vocal about it). I know of no one that has died or been seriously impaired by the vaccine.

*****? Really?
You know several thousand people personally that have caught Covid? My, my you are quite the social butterfly.

I call bull s h i t !!!! I know less than 24. And I have about 24 years on you. And I know LOT of folks!

Yes. P USSY!!!! That is my final answer.


You asked for an answer and we're nothing but insulting in return.

Find a church to attend tomorrow morning. You'll be thankful you did.
people afraid of their own shadows
I think people are more afraid of morons being a constant drain to our healthcare.


No, there are many people are whose fear of COVID is massively out of proportion to the risk COVID actually entails, particularly in the presence of vaccines and treatments. Has nothing to do with "drain to our healthcare." Has everything to do with being terrified for no good reason.
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BearTruth13 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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OP is now into Russian sources. Completely fallen off the deep end over the vax. Sad.
As far as I can tell, the American Heart Association is not a Russian source. You are officially a Branch Covidian. You are a good and loyal foot soldier.


Nah. I don't post one way or another about the vax nearly as much as you or Mothra. Nearly every post of y'all's is related to the vax.
Do you have an opinion on the vax? (Not a trick question.) *****!


I think it doesn't really prevent infection all that much. Based on evidence so far, it does greatly reduce hospitalization or death. I'm not for mandates. But I find the fear over the vaccine very strange. Just like soccer moms that spent time on Internet forums and convinced themselves that vaccinations cause autism. That used to be considered a silly group of people.

Conservatives used to rail against slow government regulation. Now some seem to be pissed the FDA was able to cut through some of that red tape.

I do know that I know a couple thousand people personally (school, church, work, etc). I know of several that have died of COVID. I know of only a few that haven't taken the vaccine (they tend to be vocal about it). I know of no one that has died or been seriously impaired by the vaccine.

*****? Really?
You know several thousand people personally that have caught Covid? My, my you are quite the social butterfly.

I call bull s h i t !!!! I know less than 24. And I have about 24 years on you. And I know LOT of folks!

Yes. P USSY!!!! That is my final answer.


You asked for an answer and we're nothing but insulting in return.

Find a church to attend tomorrow morning. You'll be thankful you did.
I was out of line with you last night. Sorry. The Covid fear mongering and seeing people afraid of their own shadows is just frustrating. I would have hoped people would have figured out what is really going on at this point, but they haven't, and I don't think they ever will.

Once again, sorry for calling you the P word. That was uncalled for.


Serious question in return. What is exactly going on? Is there any chance you are wrong?

I'm not fearful of COVID in any way. I live my life regularly and have the entire time. Travel, movies, eating out, bowling, whatever. No fear over here.

If anything, I see a lot of fearmongering over a shot. And I find it very odd.
I can't speak for him, but I suspect he's referring to lockdowns, mask mandates, forced closures of businesses that don't comply with vax mandates, etc. as the fear mongering he is referencing. Luckily, Texas has avoided most of this, but it's prevalent in other states and countries.


Except you guys live in Texas. So I don't really know what fearmongering you run into on a daily basis. I don't even know anyone that wears masks anymore. I see a lot more fearmongering from the few oddballs that haven't gotten the vaccine because they think it will kill them. It's all they talk about.

If you spend a lot of time watching cable news, you probably see an unhealthy dose of fearmongering. I suggest unplugging.
I can make you a promise. When I die, it won't be due to the Covid vaccine.

Make sure you get that booster! The mighty Omicron variant is lurking. THE HORRRRORRR!!!!!!!!


Might want to knock on wood. Over the past 2 years, it has been the 3rd leading cause of death (especially for 50 and over). You probably won't but it isn't that unlikely. That's not fearmongering just an observation.

Can you answer though? What exactly is happening? I want your true perspective. No jokes.
To me, there is greater risk taking the vaccine than catching Covid. (My doctor thinks I had it early on and got over it).


https://fyi.com/living/health-fitness/cdc-admits-almost-80-of-omicron-cases-are-from-the-fully-vaccinated/
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

BearTruth13 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

BearTruth13 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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OP is now into Russian sources. Completely fallen off the deep end over the vax. Sad.
As far as I can tell, the American Heart Association is not a Russian source. You are officially a Branch Covidian. You are a good and loyal foot soldier.


Nah. I don't post one way or another about the vax nearly as much as you or Mothra. Nearly every post of y'all's is related to the vax.
Do you have an opinion on the vax? (Not a trick question.) *****!


I think it doesn't really prevent infection all that much. Based on evidence so far, it does greatly reduce hospitalization or death. I'm not for mandates. But I find the fear over the vaccine very strange. Just like soccer moms that spent time on Internet forums and convinced themselves that vaccinations cause autism. That used to be considered a silly group of people.

Conservatives used to rail against slow government regulation. Now some seem to be pissed the FDA was able to cut through some of that red tape.

I do know that I know a couple thousand people personally (school, church, work, etc). I know of several that have died of COVID. I know of only a few that haven't taken the vaccine (they tend to be vocal about it). I know of no one that has died or been seriously impaired by the vaccine.

*****? Really?
You know several thousand people personally that have caught Covid? My, my you are quite the social butterfly.

I call bull s h i t !!!! I know less than 24. And I have about 24 years on you. And I know LOT of folks!

Yes. P USSY!!!! That is my final answer.


You asked for an answer and we're nothing but insulting in return.

Find a church to attend tomorrow morning. You'll be thankful you did.
I was out of line with you last night. Sorry. The Covid fear mongering and seeing people afraid of their own shadows is just frustrating. I would have hoped people would have figured out what is really going on at this point, but they haven't, and I don't think they ever will.

Once again, sorry for calling you the P word. That was uncalled for.


Serious question in return. What is exactly going on? Is there any chance you are wrong?

I'm not fearful of COVID in any way. I live my life regularly and have the entire time. Travel, movies, eating out, bowling, whatever. No fear over here.

If anything, I see a lot of fearmongering over a shot. And I find it very odd.
I can't speak for him, but I suspect he's referring to lockdowns, mask mandates, forced closures of businesses that don't comply with vax mandates, etc. as the fear mongering he is referencing. Luckily, Texas has avoided most of this, but it's prevalent in other states and countries.


Except you guys live in Texas. So I don't really know what fearmongering you run into on a daily basis. I don't even know anyone that wears masks anymore. I see a lot more fearmongering from the few oddballs that haven't gotten the vaccine because they think it will kill them. It's all they talk about.

If you spend a lot of time watching cable news, you probably see an unhealthy dose of fearmongering. I suggest unplugging.
I can make you a promise. When I die, it won't be due to the Covid vaccine.

Make sure you get that booster! The mighty Omicron variant is lurking. THE HORRRRORRR!!!!!!!!


Might want to knock on wood. Over the past 2 years, it has been the 3rd leading cause of death (especially for 50 and over). You probably won't but it isn't that unlikely. That's not fearmongering just an observation.

Can you answer though? What exactly is happening? I want your true perspective. No jokes.
To me, there is greater risk taking the vaccine than catching Covid.
 
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