jikespingleton said:
ScottS said:
cms186 said:
FLBear5630 said:
cms186 said:
Seriously disgusting that after everything we, as a fanbase, have been through because of Briles, some people would still welcome him back with open arms because they think it might win us a few more games of Football
Briles didnt care about what his players were doing, he had a duty of care that he just completely disregarded, but lets set aside his repugnant morals and his lip service to Christianity (some of you have done that anyway) and look at it from a purely Football point of view:
His Offence might have been cutting edge at the time, but Football has moved on and lets not forget, whilst his brand of Football was certainly exciting, in arguably the 2 biggest games of his tenure (the Cotton Bowl and the Fiesta Bowl) Briles chunked it through bad preparation and game management. Briles has been out of College Football for nearly 10 years and will be severely out of touch with the game, many coaching staff he might want to hire wont want to work with him and many players he might want to recruit wont want to come play for him because of his richly deserved reputation of being a morally bankrupt *******.
So yeah, stfu about Briles coming back here because even the most ardent Briles fanboi knows with 100% certainty that it will NEVER, EVER happen and nor should it. Utterly disgusted that fans of a supposedly Christian school would even contemplate wanting someone as morally bankrupt as him ever associated with the University again.
What exactly is truth and what is scapegoat? I need someone that was here to fill me in. From the outside it looked like it was an institutional issue, not just football. I really do not have a good enough grasp to pass judgement.
it was institutional, Baylor as a University was rotten, Briles was just a part of that, he wasnt the sole architect of it, it wasnt just the Football team, but the Football team and Briles were a significant part of it.
There was 1 conviction. That's it. And the person with the conviction wasn't named Briles. You like you act like Briles raped 100 women.
There were two rape convictions. Ukwuachu and that scumbag Elliot. A third player, Oakman was accused of rape but not convicted.
So, we had 3 players accused of rape - that is bad enough and would cost most coaches their jobs, even if none were convicted.
Again,
I am not going to relitigate the Art Briles buyout/termination (however you want to describe it)....and I have admitted it was the right of the Regents to move in a different direction with the football program HC.
But look up the history of the Big 10 schools and the SEC schools and get back to us on that bolded point.
Go look up Phil Fulmer at Tennessee as an example.
Just in 2005 alone he had 11 players in trouble with the law..... "Eleven Tennessee football players have been either arrested or cited for crimes ranging from
aggravated assault to underage drinking to sexual assault..."
He even got a joke award named after him.
[
The Fulmer Cup is awarded prior to the start of the regular season to the college football program whose players, during the off-season, collectively accumulate the most points; points are assigned for negative law enforcement contacts (a.k.a arrests,) and are scaled for severity of alleged offense.
To be eligible for Fulmer Cup points, a player must, a) be on the program's roster (no alumni or verbal commitments,) and, b) commit the offense(s) during the off-season.
Points are assessed based upon the severity of each alleged offense, on a scale of 1 (for "drankin', suspended license, and assorted petty misdemeanors") to 5 for murder.... Points are accumulative, and thus a player who steals a pig (petit theft, 1 point) then a car (3 points,) sexually assaults said pig (bestiality, 4 points) before drunkingly wrecking the stolen vehicle (DUI, 2 points) would be assessed a total of 10 points.]
Fulmer was HC from 1992 to 2008 at Tennessee....and they got rid of him because he had lost his coaching touch...not because he was running and out of control program with bad guys.