You do know the background the guy doing the POS polls, don't you?sombear said:
Desantis hasn't launched and has been crucified by Trump and mainstream media for months but still outperforming in key states.Georgia:
— Guy Benson (@guypbenson) May 22, 2023
DeSantis 45
Biden 42
Biden 44
Trump 43https://t.co/J3qlK5PxEI
Arizona:
DeSantis 47
Biden 43
Biden 46
Trump 44https://t.co/iLuo4gHA4h
State polls usually move in the direction of national polls, which are trending in positive direction for both of the candidates in question. I would posit EITHER of them could win.sombearhostile said:
Yes, in fact, he's an acquaintance, and he's one of the best. What are you getting at? And, if you've seen polls showing otherwise, I'd love to see them. The GA and AZ (and PA) numbers have been mostly consistent in showing Desantis outperforming Trump.
So, do you dispute that Desantis has consistently polled better in the battlegrounds?whiterock said:State polls usually move in the direction of national polls, which are trending in positive direction for both of the candidates in question. I would posit EITHER of them could win.sombearhostile said:
Yes, in fact, he's an acquaintance, and he's one of the best. What are you getting at? And, if you've seen polls showing otherwise, I'd love to see them. The GA and AZ (and PA) numbers have been mostly consistent in showing Desantis outperforming Trump.
What am I getting at? His track record with Presidential races is not stellar. Fired from Dole campaign. Lost with McCain. Lost with Romney (and actually had Romney winning). His client list IS the Trump-hostile part of the party......
I wouldn't ignore his work, but it does come with asterisks. I would look for more and better context, as his is certainly not something to hold out as a seminal take on the landscape.
sombear said:So, do you dispute that Desantis has consistently polled better in the battlegrounds?whiterock said:State polls usually move in the direction of national polls, which are trending in positive direction for both of the candidates in question. I would posit EITHER of them could win.sombearhostile said:
Yes, in fact, he's an acquaintance, and he's one of the best. What are you getting at? And, if you've seen polls showing otherwise, I'd love to see them. The GA and AZ (and PA) numbers have been mostly consistent in showing Desantis outperforming Trump.
What am I getting at? His track record with Presidential races is not stellar. Fired from Dole campaign. Lost with McCain. Lost with Romney (and actually had Romney winning). His client list IS the Trump-hostile part of the party......
I wouldn't ignore his work, but it does come with asterisks. I would look for more and better context, as his is certainly not something to hold out as a seminal take on the landscape.
Wait, because he was the pollster for our party's nominee, he's anti-Trump? His polls have actually been among the most Trump friendly.
He was fired by Dole because it was a "him or me" battle between pollsters. Had nothing to do with competency.
Blaming a pollster for a candidate's loss? Very strange.
Yes, his Romney call was awful. He owned it. And, if you followed the polling industry, you'd know that his methodology changes after that election were adopted by the more successful posters. Specifically, modified voter turnout projections and moving away from traditional RDD.
"Officials who work for Gov. Ron DeSantis' administration — not his campaign — have been sending text messages to Florida lobbyists soliciting political contributions for DeSantis' presidential bid..." https://t.co/TTNGvIcE9v pic.twitter.com/iZzfMmzuN1
— The Recount (@therecount) May 26, 2023
Great example of why Governors have an upper hand when running for POTUS.....fundraising leverage with the donor class.boognish_bear said:"Officials who work for Gov. Ron DeSantis' administration — not his campaign — have been sending text messages to Florida lobbyists soliciting political contributions for DeSantis' presidential bid..." https://t.co/TTNGvIcE9v pic.twitter.com/iZzfMmzuN1
— The Recount (@therecount) May 26, 2023
Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL), asked why he doesn't wait until after "Trump's second term":
— The Recount (@therecount) May 29, 2023
"Bc everyone knows if I'm the nominee, I will beat Biden and I will serve two terms. I will be able to destroy leftism in this country and leave woke ideology on the dust bin of history." pic.twitter.com/CoN7tkmoMU
New this evening: Some of Texas’ top Republican donors are turning out for a three-day DeSantis fundraising tour here next week https://t.co/X6nuI7AlAi
— Patrick Svitek (@PatrickSvitek) May 31, 2023
boognish_bear said:New this evening: Some of Texas’ top Republican donors are turning out for a three-day DeSantis fundraising tour here next week https://t.co/X6nuI7AlAi
— Patrick Svitek (@PatrickSvitek) May 31, 2023
i dont think donors are gonna be his issue. He has to get both sides of the GOP and the Indies to vote for him..whiterock said:boognish_bear said:New this evening: Some of Texas’ top Republican donors are turning out for a three-day DeSantis fundraising tour here next week https://t.co/X6nuI7AlAi
— Patrick Svitek (@PatrickSvitek) May 31, 2023
I know a couple in that stratosphere who were not listed and are all in for RDS.
RDS will do exceedingly well with the donor class.
4th and Inches said:i dont think donors are gonna be his issue. He has to get both sides of the GOP and the Indies to vote for him..whiterock said:boognish_bear said:New this evening: Some of Texas’ top Republican donors are turning out for a three-day DeSantis fundraising tour here next week https://t.co/X6nuI7AlAi
— Patrick Svitek (@PatrickSvitek) May 31, 2023
I know a couple in that stratosphere who were not listed and are all in for RDS.
RDS will do exceedingly well with the donor class.
I'm not telling you anything you don't already know, but the donor class covers a lot of ground. It is difficult to generalize. But, yes, a good chunk of them are focused on electability even more than usual. More than that though they are concerned with the GOP brand under Trump. Unfortunately, many are not sold on Desantis either, but he will still do pretty well, and absent an unexpected Scott or Haley charge, most will ultimately coalesce around him.whiterock said:4th and Inches said:i dont think donors are gonna be his issue. He has to get both sides of the GOP and the Indies to vote for him..whiterock said:boognish_bear said:New this evening: Some of Texas’ top Republican donors are turning out for a three-day DeSantis fundraising tour here next week https://t.co/X6nuI7AlAi
— Patrick Svitek (@PatrickSvitek) May 31, 2023
I know a couple in that stratosphere who were not listed and are all in for RDS.
RDS will do exceedingly well with the donor class.
As I feared, the race appears to be headed into a donors v. base dynamic.
Donors seem particularly transfixed on the "culture of losing" argument that the base is rejecting.
What an arrogant ass! Kahleigh was one of his biggest cheerleaders on Fox News. I would bet no more.boognish_bear said:
And he doesn't even know how to spell "milquetoast."RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:What an arrogant ass! Kahleigh was one of his biggest cheerleaders on Fox News. I would bet no more.boognish_bear said:
So ready to move in from this p r i c k.
I kinda wish Biden and Trump would go ahead and go behind the schoolhouse and beat each other into a coma.Mothra said:And he doesn't even know how to spell "milquetoast."RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:What an arrogant ass! Kahleigh was one of his biggest cheerleaders on Fox News. I would bet no more.boognish_bear said:
So ready to move in from this p r i c k.
He's such a buffoon.
I am hoping for Trump's death before 2024.
“We actually just signed legislation protecting students from having teachers force them to pick pronouns, which they are doing in some parts of this country... We’re not competing in the 'pronoun sweepstakes.'”
— The Recount (@therecount) May 31, 2023
— Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) at a presidential campaign event in Iowa pic.twitter.com/vvlk5logUJ
Bizarreboognish_bear said:
Trump will be a lock for junior high class president
Donald Trump claims he will end the war in Ukraine “in 24 hours.” Pressed by Sean Hannity on how, he struggles to respond:
— The Recount (@therecount) June 2, 2023
“I will get them into a room ... and I’m telling you, within 24 hours that whole thing will be settled.” pic.twitter.com/yCygCJ7Yqe
Trump's pollster Tony Fabrizio conducted a poll in the states of AZ, GA, PA, MI, PA and WI (Here are DeSantis numbers before the "informed ballot.")
— InteractivePolls (@IAPolls2022) June 2, 2023
Overall:
(R) DeSantis 47% (+4)
(D) Biden 43%
Independents
(R) DeSantis 48% (+12)
(D) Biden 36%https://t.co/c7UAAFSYqm pic.twitter.com/Ugo4UJQnvo
Kevin Stitt on Saturday became the first governor to endorse Ron DeSantis' bid for president.
— The Recount (@therecount) June 12, 2023
Trump had endorsed Stitt for re-election last year. https://t.co/j87nCrd20e
Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL), when asked whether as president he would appoint judges similar to Trump's appointees:
— The Recount (@therecount) June 12, 2023
“We’ll do better than that. I mean, I respect the three appointees he did, but none of those three are at the same level of Justices Thomas and Justice Alito.” pic.twitter.com/L8NkimW9LR
It's a fair point. None of his three appointments have proven to be as consistently conservative as Alito and Thomas. Kavanaugh and Roberts are more accurately described as centrists.Aliceinbubbleland said:
Holy ****
aint none of them Antonin Scalia.. May he rest in peacewhiterock said:It's a fair point. None of his three appointments have proven to be as consistently conservative as Alito and Thomas. Kavanaugh and Roberts are more accurately described as centrists.Aliceinbubbleland said:
Holy ****
Especially Roberts, but he's a Bush appointee.whiterock said:It's a fair point. None of his three appointments have proven to be as consistently conservative as Alito and Thomas. Kavanaugh and Roberts are more accurately described as centrists.Aliceinbubbleland said:
Holy ****
Gorsuch is more Libertarian than GOP. He has gone against what the GOP wants several time.Sam Lowry said:Especially Roberts, but he's a Bush appointee.whiterock said:It's a fair point. None of his three appointments have proven to be as consistently conservative as Alito and Thomas. Kavanaugh and Roberts are more accurately described as centrists.Aliceinbubbleland said:
Holy ****
He'll always be suspect in my mind after the Bostock decision.FLBear5630 said:Gorsuch is more Libertarian than GOP. He has gone against what the GOP wants several time.Sam Lowry said:Especially Roberts, but he's a Bush appointee.whiterock said:It's a fair point. None of his three appointments have proven to be as consistently conservative as Alito and Thomas. Kavanaugh and Roberts are more accurately described as centrists.Aliceinbubbleland said:
Holy ****
Trump indictment still won’t bump DeSantis in polls.
— Adam Townsend (@adamscrabble) June 13, 2023
Guy has raised $+150m over last 2yrs and all he has to show for it is the old Crossroads scamsters selling ‘blueprint to winning’, buying ad time in advance, etc.
Jeb! campaign all over again.
Buckle up for Nikki
