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Fascinating poll. A shame the Democrats are giving RFK, Jr. the Tulsi Gabbard treatment. Would love to see him debate China Joe but the Dem power brokers don't dare allow that to happen.

I would be interested in learning more about him.

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Same here.

RFK is worth some attention.

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Psychiatric attention in particular.

I do like him on some issues, though.

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Pay no attention to Sam. RFK disagrees with Sam's narrative that all vaccines are safe and necessary for all people all of the time.

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As opposed to those who believe all vaccines are unsafe and unnecessary for all people all of the time?

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I'd suggest doing some research on Robert Kennedy if that's what you think he believes. You couldn't be more wrong.

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Wrong about what? He's your vax boy, not mine

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Do you not remember what you said? Seriously?

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I thought you would misquote me for fun

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Huh? You just a ****ing troll. Blow it out your ass.

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Classy
Tell 47 hello at church tomorrow
And lay off the alcohol

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Stop behaving like a troll, and I will stop treating you like one.

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Ah yes, the Fruit of the Spirit. I'll post answers to you before 5:00 PM

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Says the guy who started with the ad homs in the first place. Pot, meet kettle.

I'd suggest if you don't want to be treated the same way you treat people, then change your behavior.

Fruit of the spirit indeed, hypocrite.

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Fascinating poll. A shame the Democrats are giving RFK, Jr. the Tulsi Gabbard treatment. Would love to see him debate China Joe but the Dem power brokers don't dare allow that to happen.

I would be interested in learning more about him.

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Same here.

RFK is worth some attention.

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Psychiatric attention in particular.

I do like him on some issues, though.

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Pay no attention to Sam. RFK disagrees with Sam's narrative that all vaccines are safe and necessary for all people all of the time.

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As opposed to those who believe all vaccines are unsafe and unnecessary for all people all of the time?

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I'd suggest doing some research on Robert Kennedy if that's what you think he believes. You couldn't be more wrong.

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Wrong about what? He's your vax boy, not mine

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Do you not remember what you said? Seriously?

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I thought you would misquote me for fun

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Huh? You just a ****ing troll. Blow it out your ass.

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Classy
Tell 47 hello at church tomorrow
And lay off the alcohol

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Stop behaving like a troll, and I will stop treating you like one.

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Ah yes, the Fruit of the Spirit. I'll post answers to you before 5:00 PM

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Says the guy who started with the ad homs in the first place. Pot, meet kettle.

I'd suggest if you don't want to be treated the same way you treat people, then change your behavior.

Fruit of the spirit indeed, hypocrite.

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You have more in common with RFK, Jr than I.

I believe vaccines have been a great gift to mankind

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Fascinating poll. A shame the Democrats are giving RFK, Jr. the Tulsi Gabbard treatment. Would love to see him debate China Joe but the Dem power brokers don't dare allow that to happen.

I would be interested in learning more about him.

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Same here.

RFK is worth some attention.

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Psychiatric attention in particular.

I do like him on some issues, though.

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Pay no attention to Sam. RFK disagrees with Sam's narrative that all vaccines are safe and necessary for all people all of the time.

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As opposed to those who believe all vaccines are unsafe and unnecessary for all people all of the time?

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I'd suggest doing some research on Robert Kennedy if that's what you think he believes. You couldn't be more wrong.

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Wrong about what? He's your vax boy, not mine

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Do you not remember what you said? Seriously?

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I thought you would misquote me for fun

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Huh? You just a ****ing troll. Blow it out your ass.

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Classy
Tell 47 hello at church tomorrow
And lay off the alcohol

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Stop behaving like a troll, and I will stop treating you like one.

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Ah yes, the Fruit of the Spirit. I'll post answers to you before 5:00 PM

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Says the guy who started with the ad homs in the first place. Pot, meet kettle.

I'd suggest if you don't want to be treated the same way you treat people, then change your behavior.

Fruit of the spirit indeed, hypocrite.

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You have more in common with RFK, Jr than I.

I believe vaccines have been a great gift to mankind

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Yes, I am a free thinker and not one of the sheep, that is true. Having experienced the downside of some vaccines, my eyes have been opened.

My point was, RFK, like me, doesn't believe that all vaccines are bad and shouldn't be given. That is why I suggested doing a little research to educate yourself. You don't appear to know what he believes.

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Fascinating poll. A shame the Democrats are giving RFK, Jr. the Tulsi Gabbard treatment. Would love to see him debate China Joe but the Dem power brokers don't dare allow that to happen.

I would be interested in learning more about him.

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Same here.

RFK is worth some attention.

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Psychiatric attention in particular.

I do like him on some issues, though.

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Pay no attention to Sam. RFK disagrees with Sam's narrative that all vaccines are safe and necessary for all people all of the time.

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As opposed to those who believe all vaccines are unsafe and unnecessary for all people all of the time?

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I'd suggest doing some research on Robert Kennedy if that's what you think he believes. You couldn't be more wrong.

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Wrong about what? He's your vax boy, not mine

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Do you not remember what you said? Seriously?

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I thought you would misquote me for fun

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Huh? You just a ****ing troll. Blow it out your ass.

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Classy
Tell 47 hello at church tomorrow
And lay off the alcohol

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Stop behaving like a troll, and I will stop treating you like one.

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Ah yes, the Fruit of the Spirit. I'll post answers to you before 5:00 PM

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Says the guy who started with the ad homs in the first place. Pot, meet kettle.

I'd suggest if you don't want to be treated the same way you treat people, then change your behavior.

Fruit of the spirit indeed, hypocrite.

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You have more in common with RFK, Jr than I.

I believe vaccines have been a great gift to mankind

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Yes, I am a free thinker and not one of the sheep, that is true. Having experienced the downside of some vaccines, my eyes have been opened.

My point was, RFK, like me, doesn't believe that all vaccines are bad and shouldn't be given. That is why I suggested doing a little research to educate yourself. You don't appear to know what he believes.

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I read his book on Fauci. Which vaccines are bad and shouldn't be given?

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Fascinating poll. A shame the Democrats are giving RFK, Jr. the Tulsi Gabbard treatment. Would love to see him debate China Joe but the Dem power brokers don't dare allow that to happen.

I would be interested in learning more about him.

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Same here.

RFK is worth some attention.

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Psychiatric attention in particular.

I do like him on some issues, though.

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Pay no attention to Sam. RFK disagrees with Sam's narrative that all vaccines are safe and necessary for all people all of the time.

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As opposed to those who believe all vaccines are unsafe and unnecessary for all people all of the time?

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I'd suggest doing some research on Robert Kennedy if that's what you think he believes. You couldn't be more wrong.

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Wrong about what? He's your vax boy, not mine

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Do you not remember what you said? Seriously?

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I thought you would misquote me for fun

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Huh? You just a ****ing troll. Blow it out your ass.

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Classy
Tell 47 hello at church tomorrow
And lay off the alcohol

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Stop behaving like a troll, and I will stop treating you like one.

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Ah yes, the Fruit of the Spirit. I'll post answers to you before 5:00 PM

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Says the guy who started with the ad homs in the first place. Pot, meet kettle.

I'd suggest if you don't want to be treated the same way you treat people, then change your behavior.

Fruit of the spirit indeed, hypocrite.

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You have more in common with RFK, Jr than I.

I believe vaccines have been a great gift to mankind

---

Yes, I am a free thinker and not one of the sheep, that is true. Having experienced the downside of some vaccines, my eyes have been opened.

My point was, RFK, like me, doesn't believe that all vaccines are bad and shouldn't be given. That is why I suggested doing a little research to educate yourself. You don't appear to know what he believes.

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I read his book on Fauci. Which vaccines are bad and shouldn't be given?

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Yes, he pretty much nailed Fauci.

I don't know. You can google his thoughts.

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Fascinating poll. A shame the Democrats are giving RFK, Jr. the Tulsi Gabbard treatment. Would love to see him debate China Joe but the Dem power brokers don't dare allow that to happen.

I would be interested in learning more about him.

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Same here.

RFK is worth some attention.

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Psychiatric attention in particular.

I do like him on some issues, though.

---

Pay no attention to Sam. RFK disagrees with Sam's narrative that all vaccines are safe and necessary for all people all of the time.

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As opposed to those who believe all vaccines are unsafe and unnecessary for all people all of the time?

---

I'd suggest doing some research on Robert Kennedy if that's what you think he believes. You couldn't be more wrong.

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Wrong about what? He's your vax boy, not mine

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Do you not remember what you said? Seriously?

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I thought you would misquote me for fun

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Huh? You just a ****ing troll. Blow it out your ass.

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Classy
Tell 47 hello at church tomorrow
And lay off the alcohol

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Stop behaving like a troll, and I will stop treating you like one.

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Ah yes, the Fruit of the Spirit. I'll post answers to you before 5:00 PM

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Says the guy who started with the ad homs in the first place. Pot, meet kettle.

I'd suggest if you don't want to be treated the same way you treat people, then change your behavior.

Fruit of the spirit indeed, hypocrite.

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You have more in common with RFK, Jr than I.

I believe vaccines have been a great gift to mankind

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My point was, RFK, like me, doesn't believe that all vaccines are bad and shouldn't be given. That is why I suggested doing a little research to educate yourself. You don't appear to know what he believes.

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I'm hoping you will help educate me.
What vaccines are bad and shouldn't be given?

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Sam Lowry said:

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KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Fascinating poll. A shame the Democrats are giving RFK, Jr. the Tulsi Gabbard treatment. Would love to see him debate China Joe but the Dem power brokers don't dare allow that to happen.

I would be interested in learning more about him.

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Same here.

RFK is worth some attention.

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Psychiatric attention in particular.

I do like him on some issues, though.

---

Pay no attention to Sam. RFK disagrees with Sam's narrative that all vaccines are safe and necessary for all people all of the time.

---

As opposed to those who believe all vaccines are unsafe and unnecessary for all people all of the time?

---

I'd suggest doing some research on Robert Kennedy if that's what you think he believes. You couldn't be more wrong.

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Wrong about what? He's your vax boy, not mine

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Do you not remember what you said? Seriously?

---

I thought you would misquote me for fun

---

Huh? You just a ****ing troll. Blow it out your ass.

---

Classy
Tell 47 hello at church tomorrow
And lay off the alcohol

---

Stop behaving like a troll, and I will stop treating you like one.

---

Ah yes, the Fruit of the Spirit. I'll post answers to you before 5:00 PM

---

Says the guy who started with the ad homs in the first place. Pot, meet kettle.

I'd suggest if you don't want to be treated the same way you treat people, then change your behavior.

Fruit of the spirit indeed, hypocrite.

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You have more in common with RFK, Jr than I.

I believe vaccines have been a great gift to mankind

---

My point was, RFK, like me, doesn't believe that all vaccines are bad and shouldn't be given. That is why I suggested doing a little research to educate yourself. You don't appear to know what he believes.

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I'm hoping you will help educate me.
What vaccines are bad and shouldn't be given?

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Nah, I have no desire to educate someone that denies others' experiences and calls them liars. If you want to know what RFK really thinks, I'd suggest doing some research. He has other books on this subject.

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Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Fascinating poll. A shame the Democrats are giving RFK, Jr. the Tulsi Gabbard treatment. Would love to see him debate China Joe but the Dem power brokers don't dare allow that to happen.

I would be interested in learning more about him.

---

Same here.

RFK is worth some attention.

---

Psychiatric attention in particular.

I do like him on some issues, though.

---

Pay no attention to Sam. RFK disagrees with Sam's narrative that all vaccines are safe and necessary for all people all of the time.

---

As opposed to those who believe all vaccines are unsafe and unnecessary for all people all of the time?

---

I'd suggest doing some research on Robert Kennedy if that's what you think he believes. You couldn't be more wrong.

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Wrong about what? He's your vax boy, not mine

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Do you not remember what you said? Seriously?

---

I thought you would misquote me for fun

---

Huh? You just a ****ing troll. Blow it out your ass.

---

Classy
Tell 47 hello at church tomorrow
And lay off the alcohol

---

Stop behaving like a troll, and I will stop treating you like one.

---

Ah yes, the Fruit of the Spirit. I'll post answers to you before 5:00 PM

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Says the guy who started with the ad homs in the first place. Pot, meet kettle.

I'd suggest if you don't want to be treated the same way you treat people, then change your behavior.

Fruit of the spirit indeed, hypocrite.

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You have more in common with RFK, Jr than I.

I believe vaccines have been a great gift to mankind

---

My point was, RFK, like me, doesn't believe that all vaccines are bad and shouldn't be given. That is why I suggested doing a little research to educate yourself. You don't appear to know what he believes.

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I'm hoping you will help educate me.
What vaccines are bad and shouldn't be given?

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Nah, I have no desire to educate someone that denies others' experiences and calls them liars. If you want to know what RFK really thinks, I'd suggest doing some research. He has other books on this subject.

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I understand. It isn't defensible

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Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Fascinating poll. A shame the Democrats are giving RFK, Jr. the Tulsi Gabbard treatment. Would love to see him debate China Joe but the Dem power brokers don't dare allow that to happen.

I would be interested in learning more about him.

---

Same here.

RFK is worth some attention.

---

Psychiatric attention in particular.

I do like him on some issues, though.

---

Pay no attention to Sam. RFK disagrees with Sam's narrative that all vaccines are safe and necessary for all people all of the time.

---

As opposed to those who believe all vaccines are unsafe and unnecessary for all people all of the time?

---

I'd suggest doing some research on Robert Kennedy if that's what you think he believes. You couldn't be more wrong.

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Wrong about what? He's your vax boy, not mine

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Do you not remember what you said? Seriously?

---

I thought you would misquote me for fun

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Huh? You just a ****ing troll. Blow it out your ass.

---

Classy
Tell 47 hello at church tomorrow
And lay off the alcohol

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Stop behaving like a troll, and I will stop treating you like one.

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Ah yes, the Fruit of the Spirit. I'll post answers to you before 5:00 PM

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Says the guy who started with the ad homs in the first place. Pot, meet kettle.

I'd suggest if you don't want to be treated the same way you treat people, then change your behavior.

Fruit of the spirit indeed, hypocrite.

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You have more in common with RFK, Jr than I.

I believe vaccines have been a great gift to mankind

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My point was, RFK, like me, doesn't believe that all vaccines are bad and shouldn't be given. That is why I suggested doing a little research to educate yourself. You don't appear to know what he believes.

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I'm hoping you will help educate me.
What vaccines are bad and shouldn't be given?

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Nah, I have no desire to educate someone that denies others' experiences and calls them liars. If you want to know what RFK really thinks, I'd suggest doing some research. He has other books on this subject.

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I understand. It isn't defensible

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Tell that to my son, pin cushion.

BTW, did your research for you, pin cushion:

https://www.science.org/content/article/exclusive-qa-robert-f-kennedy-jr-trumps-proposed-vaccine-commission

RFK: I am for vaccines. I have been tracking mercury in fish for 30 years and nobody has called me antifish. I am pro-vaccine. I had all my kids vaccinated. I think vaccines save lives. But we are also seeing an explosion in neurodevelopmental disorders and we ought to be able to do a cost-benefit analysis and see what's causing them. We ought to have robust, transparent science and an independent regulatory agency. Nobody is trying to get rid of vaccines here. I just want safe vaccines.

Watched the Trump interviews.

Too bad he is such a trainwreck.

I do agree with his policies. But, it is the rest of him that is just political poison.

If he was smart, he would focus on China. China is kicking Biden's ass around the planet. Stay away from the other stuff, China alone is a big enough mess up by Biden to get him the WH.

That said, I do believe DeSantis, Halley, and Pompeo would be just as strong on China. Biden cannot win again or China will own the world.

Mothra said:

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BTW, did your research for you, pin cushion:

https://www.science.org/content/article/exclusive-qa-robert-f-kennedy-jr-trumps-proposed-vaccine-commission

RFK: I am for vaccines. I have been tracking mercury in fish for 30 years and nobody has called me antifish. I am pro-vaccine. I had all my kids vaccinated. I think vaccines save lives. But we are also seeing an explosion in neurodevelopmental disorders and we ought to be able to do a cost-benefit analysis and see what's causing them. We ought to have robust, transparent science and an independent regulatory agency. Nobody is trying to get rid of vaccines here. I just want safe vaccines.

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I won't reply after 5:00 PM

It's best for your own protection

I understand. It isn't defensible.

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Yeah, it was peaceful...

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has "really underperformed" in his 2024 presidential campaign, former GOP Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan says, calling it "one of the worst" campaigns he's seen so far.@MajorCBS: "Is it over for DeSantis?"

Hogan: "I think it's getting close to being over." pic.twitter.com/Krx8AX9L0x

— CBS News (@CBSNews) June 21, 2023

Doc Holliday said:

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has "really underperformed" in his 2024 presidential campaign, former GOP Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan says, calling it "one of the worst" campaigns he's seen so far.@MajorCBS: "Is it over for DeSantis?"

Hogan: "I think it's getting close to being over." pic.twitter.com/Krx8AX9L0x

— CBS News (@CBSNews) June 21, 2023

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The rumors of the death of Ron DeSantis have been greatly exaggerated. Once Biden exits the race, things will get REALLY interesting.

The talk of a dual party Independent ticket with Joe Manchin running for President and a Republican VP running mate is fascinating to me. Should the Dems and Republicans not abandon a Biden vs. Trump rematch that nobody wants, such a ticket could have a real shot. I certainly would consider it. We shall see.

Over on Truth Social, Trump responds to DeSantis’ Eagle Pass visit pic.twitter.com/axfoq74yiZ

— Patrick Svitek (@PatrickSvitek) June 26, 2023

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Doc Holliday said:

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has "really underperformed" in his 2024 presidential campaign, former GOP Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan says, calling it "one of the worst" campaigns he's seen so far.@MajorCBS: "Is it over for DeSantis?"

Hogan: "I think it's getting close to being over." pic.twitter.com/Krx8AX9L0x

— CBS News (@CBSNews) June 21, 2023

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The rumors of the death of Ron DeSantis have been greatly exaggerated. Once Biden exits the race, things will get REALLY interesting.

The talk of a dual party Independent ticket with Joe Manchin running for President and a Republican VP running mate is fascinating to me. Should the Dems and Republicans not abandon a Biden vs. Trump rematch that nobody wants, such a ticket could have a real shot. I certainly would consider it. We shall see.

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RDS has struggled. It is really, really, really hard to step up from state politics to national politics. He hasta get better. And he may do exactly that. Or he may not. He does have time to do so. The bigger problem is just the emerging perception that, because of his stumbles and overall under-performance to expectations, he's not ready for the big-stage. He's got to break that cycle sooner rather than later, or perception will set in & become reality.

Frankly, if he doesn't get a lot better, he might even miss the ticket altogether.

whiterock said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has "really underperformed" in his 2024 presidential campaign, former GOP Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan says, calling it "one of the worst" campaigns he's seen so far.@MajorCBS: "Is it over for DeSantis?"

Hogan: "I think it's getting close to being over." pic.twitter.com/Krx8AX9L0x

— CBS News (@CBSNews) June 21, 2023

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The rumors of the death of Ron DeSantis have been greatly exaggerated. Once Biden exits the race, things will get REALLY interesting.

The talk of a dual party Independent ticket with Joe Manchin running for President and a Republican VP running mate is fascinating to me. Should the Dems and Republicans not abandon a Biden vs. Trump rematch that nobody wants, such a ticket could have a real shot. I certainly would consider it. We shall see.

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RDS has struggled. It is really, really, really hard to step up from state politics to national politics. He hasta get better. And he may do exactly that. Or he may not. He does have time to do so. The bigger problem is just the emerging perception that, because of his stumbles and overall under-performance to expectations, he's not ready for the big-stage. He's got to break that cycle sooner rather than later, or perception will set in & become reality.

Frankly, if he doesn't get a lot better, he might even miss the ticket altogether.

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You gotta remember, this may be the toughest stretch for DeSantis to endure. He is under siege from Donald Trump, the Democrat Party, the mainstream media, his fellow Republican candidates, and even wannabe Presidential candidate governors from failed blue states. Some of his campaign events aren't covered by the news media. Quite a contrast from Donald Trump who the news media follows into the bathroom stall every time he has to poop.

Other than Biden exiting the race, I don't expect a whole lot of movement in the polling until after the first Republican Party debate in August.

whiterock said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has "really underperformed" in his 2024 presidential campaign, former GOP Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan says, calling it "one of the worst" campaigns he's seen so far.@MajorCBS: "Is it over for DeSantis?"

Hogan: "I think it's getting close to being over." pic.twitter.com/Krx8AX9L0x

— CBS News (@CBSNews) June 21, 2023

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The rumors of the death of Ron DeSantis have been greatly exaggerated. Once Biden exits the race, things will get REALLY interesting.

The talk of a dual party Independent ticket with Joe Manchin running for President and a Republican VP running mate is fascinating to me. Should the Dems and Republicans not abandon a Biden vs. Trump rematch that nobody wants, such a ticket could have a real shot. I certainly would consider it. We shall see.

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RDS has struggled. It is really, really, really hard to step up from state politics to national politics. He hasta get better. And he may do exactly that. Or he may not. He does have time to do so. The bigger problem is just the emerging perception that, because of his stumbles and overall under-performance to expectations, he's not ready for the big-stage. He's got to break that cycle sooner rather than later, or perception will set in & become reality.

Frankly, if he doesn't get a lot better, he might even miss the ticket altogether.

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I don't think he's struggled at all. His fundraising has been solid. He remains a clear #2 in the primary, and virtually every poll continues to show him performing better against Biden, particularly among independents and in swing states.

And, yes, Trump's broadsides (mostly lies) against him have hurt, but the primary reason Trump remains so far ahead is very simple. The lawsuits and criminal charges have galvanized his supporters like nothing else could do.

If RDS was struggling, he'd be losing ground to Haley, Scott, Pence, etc., but he's not. It's all about Trump right now. Unfortunately, I think it is unlikely anyone will catch Trump in the primary, but it's not because anyone else is struggling.

Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL), when asked if Donald Trump violated the peaceful transfer of power on January 6th:

“I wasn’t anywhere near Washington that day. I have nothing to do with what happened that day. Obviously, I didn’t enjoy seeing what happened.” pic.twitter.com/386NGQ87qk

— The Recount (@therecount) June 27, 2023

whiterock said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has "really underperformed" in his 2024 presidential campaign, former GOP Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan says, calling it "one of the worst" campaigns he's seen so far.@MajorCBS: "Is it over for DeSantis?"

Hogan: "I think it's getting close to being over." pic.twitter.com/Krx8AX9L0x

— CBS News (@CBSNews) June 21, 2023

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The rumors of the death of Ron DeSantis have been greatly exaggerated. Once Biden exits the race, things will get REALLY interesting.

The talk of a dual party Independent ticket with Joe Manchin running for President and a Republican VP running mate is fascinating to me. Should the Dems and Republicans not abandon a Biden vs. Trump rematch that nobody wants, such a ticket could have a real shot. I certainly would consider it. We shall see.

---

RDS has struggled. It is really, really, really hard to step up from state politics to national politics. He hasta get better. And he may do exactly that. Or he may not. He does have time to do so. The bigger problem is just the emerging perception that, because of his stumbles and overall under-performance to expectations, he's not ready for the big-stage. He's got to break that cycle sooner rather than later, or perception will set in & become reality.

Frankly, if he doesn't get a lot better, he might even miss the ticket altogether.

---

He's basically hired a Jeb Bush campaign blueprint and it absolutely sucks.

The guy is missing out on populist messaging. He's also too formal with his public speaking. He needs to talk personal and bring the fire.

I'd choose RFK Jr. over Desantis at this point.

Leftists have no convening force other hate for Republicans

DeSantis’ites and Leftists
meet in the middle like a venn diagram in they both want Biden re-elected, although veneer displays differently.
DeSantis’ites get to be cowards but ‘moral’, Left gets to gulag its foes https://t.co/f32zWewPGl

— Adam Townsend (@adamscrabble) June 27, 2023

Doc Holliday said:

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whiterock said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has "really underperformed" in his 2024 presidential campaign, former GOP Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan says, calling it "one of the worst" campaigns he's seen so far.@MajorCBS: "Is it over for DeSantis?"

Hogan: "I think it's getting close to being over." pic.twitter.com/Krx8AX9L0x

— CBS News (@CBSNews) June 21, 2023

---

The rumors of the death of Ron DeSantis have been greatly exaggerated. Once Biden exits the race, things will get REALLY interesting.

The talk of a dual party Independent ticket with Joe Manchin running for President and a Republican VP running mate is fascinating to me. Should the Dems and Republicans not abandon a Biden vs. Trump rematch that nobody wants, such a ticket could have a real shot. I certainly would consider it. We shall see.

---

RDS has struggled. It is really, really, really hard to step up from state politics to national politics. He hasta get better. And he may do exactly that. Or he may not. He does have time to do so. The bigger problem is just the emerging perception that, because of his stumbles and overall under-performance to expectations, he's not ready for the big-stage. He's got to break that cycle sooner rather than later, or perception will set in & become reality.

Frankly, if he doesn't get a lot better, he might even miss the ticket altogether.

---

He's basically hired a Jeb Bush campaign blueprint and it absolutely sucks.

The guy is missing out on populist messaging. He's also too formal with his public speaking. He needs to talk personal and bring the fire.

I'd choose RFK Jr. over Desantis at this point.

Leftists have no convening force other hate for Republicans

DeSantis’ites and Leftists
meet in the middle like a venn diagram in they both want Biden re-elected, although veneer displays differently.
DeSantis’ites get to be cowards but ‘moral’, Left gets to gulag its foes https://t.co/f32zWewPGl

— Adam Townsend (@adamscrabble) June 27, 2023

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What exactly has RDS been moderate on? He's actually getting hammered by the moderate, corporate types for campaigning to the right of Trump.

Doc Holliday said:

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whiterock said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has "really underperformed" in his 2024 presidential campaign, former GOP Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan says, calling it "one of the worst" campaigns he's seen so far.@MajorCBS: "Is it over for DeSantis?"

Hogan: "I think it's getting close to being over." pic.twitter.com/Krx8AX9L0x

— CBS News (@CBSNews) June 21, 2023

---

The rumors of the death of Ron DeSantis have been greatly exaggerated. Once Biden exits the race, things will get REALLY interesting.

The talk of a dual party Independent ticket with Joe Manchin running for President and a Republican VP running mate is fascinating to me. Should the Dems and Republicans not abandon a Biden vs. Trump rematch that nobody wants, such a ticket could have a real shot. I certainly would consider it. We shall see.

---

RDS has struggled. It is really, really, really hard to step up from state politics to national politics. He hasta get better. And he may do exactly that. Or he may not. He does have time to do so. The bigger problem is just the emerging perception that, because of his stumbles and overall under-performance to expectations, he's not ready for the big-stage. He's got to break that cycle sooner rather than later, or perception will set in & become reality.

Frankly, if he doesn't get a lot better, he might even miss the ticket altogether.

---

He's basically hired a Jeb Bush campaign blueprint and it absolutely sucks.

The guy is missing out on populist messaging. He's also too formal with his public speaking. He needs to talk personal and bring the fire.

I'd choose RFK Jr. over Desantis at this point.

Leftists have no convening force other hate for Republicans

DeSantis’ites and Leftists
meet in the middle like a venn diagram in they both want Biden re-elected, although veneer displays differently.
DeSantis’ites get to be cowards but ‘moral’, Left gets to gulag its foes https://t.co/f32zWewPGl

— Adam Townsend (@adamscrabble) June 27, 2023

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Agreed. Desantis is already done. Maga wont vote for him and he comes across as a nerd operated by the Bush/Rove establishment that will do anything to steer the party away from populism. That said, I like some of the things Ron has done but signing the Florida law in Israel that would criminalize speech critical of Israel is ridiculous. I'm going to vote for RFK in the S. Carolina open primary bc Trump should run away with this state.

The fact this thread is eight pages is terrifying.

In any Republican would vote for Trump over DeSantis at this point deserves what it wants good and hard ... four more years of regressive authoritarianism.

sombear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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whiterock said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has "really underperformed" in his 2024 presidential campaign, former GOP Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan says, calling it "one of the worst" campaigns he's seen so far.@MajorCBS: "Is it over for DeSantis?"

Hogan: "I think it's getting close to being over." pic.twitter.com/Krx8AX9L0x

— CBS News (@CBSNews) June 21, 2023

---

The rumors of the death of Ron DeSantis have been greatly exaggerated. Once Biden exits the race, things will get REALLY interesting.

The talk of a dual party Independent ticket with Joe Manchin running for President and a Republican VP running mate is fascinating to me. Should the Dems and Republicans not abandon a Biden vs. Trump rematch that nobody wants, such a ticket could have a real shot. I certainly would consider it. We shall see.

---

RDS has struggled. It is really, really, really hard to step up from state politics to national politics. He hasta get better. And he may do exactly that. Or he may not. He does have time to do so. The bigger problem is just the emerging perception that, because of his stumbles and overall under-performance to expectations, he's not ready for the big-stage. He's got to break that cycle sooner rather than later, or perception will set in & become reality.

Frankly, if he doesn't get a lot better, he might even miss the ticket altogether.

---

He's basically hired a Jeb Bush campaign blueprint and it absolutely sucks.

The guy is missing out on populist messaging. He's also too formal with his public speaking. He needs to talk personal and bring the fire.

I'd choose RFK Jr. over Desantis at this point.

Leftists have no convening force other hate for Republicans

DeSantis’ites and Leftists
meet in the middle like a venn diagram in they both want Biden re-elected, although veneer displays differently.
DeSantis’ites get to be cowards but ‘moral’, Left gets to gulag its foes https://t.co/f32zWewPGl

— Adam Townsend (@adamscrabble) June 27, 2023

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What exactly has RDS been moderate on? He's actually getting hammered by the moderate, corporate types for campaigning to the right of Trump.

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I didn't say he was moderate, but his campaign messaging is.

Good breakdown on why:
https://www.adamtownsend.me/desantis-campaign/?clear-cache

Doc Holliday said:

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sombear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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whiterock said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has "really underperformed" in his 2024 presidential campaign, former GOP Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan says, calling it "one of the worst" campaigns he's seen so far.@MajorCBS: "Is it over for DeSantis?"

Hogan: "I think it's getting close to being over." pic.twitter.com/Krx8AX9L0x

— CBS News (@CBSNews) June 21, 2023

---

The rumors of the death of Ron DeSantis have been greatly exaggerated. Once Biden exits the race, things will get REALLY interesting.

The talk of a dual party Independent ticket with Joe Manchin running for President and a Republican VP running mate is fascinating to me. Should the Dems and Republicans not abandon a Biden vs. Trump rematch that nobody wants, such a ticket could have a real shot. I certainly would consider it. We shall see.

---

RDS has struggled. It is really, really, really hard to step up from state politics to national politics. He hasta get better. And he may do exactly that. Or he may not. He does have time to do so. The bigger problem is just the emerging perception that, because of his stumbles and overall under-performance to expectations, he's not ready for the big-stage. He's got to break that cycle sooner rather than later, or perception will set in & become reality.

Frankly, if he doesn't get a lot better, he might even miss the ticket altogether.

---

He's basically hired a Jeb Bush campaign blueprint and it absolutely sucks.

The guy is missing out on populist messaging. He's also too formal with his public speaking. He needs to talk personal and bring the fire.

I'd choose RFK Jr. over Desantis at this point.

Leftists have no convening force other hate for Republicans

DeSantis’ites and Leftists
meet in the middle like a venn diagram in they both want Biden re-elected, although veneer displays differently.
DeSantis’ites get to be cowards but ‘moral’, Left gets to gulag its foes https://t.co/f32zWewPGl

— Adam Townsend (@adamscrabble) June 27, 2023

---

What exactly has RDS been moderate on? He's actually getting hammered by the moderate, corporate types for campaigning to the right of Trump.

---

I didn't say he was moderate, but his campaign messaging is.

Good breakdown on why:
https://www.adamtownsend.me/desantis-campaign/?clear-cache

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Trump is attacking DeSantis only from the left ... when his not making moronic comments.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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sombear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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whiterock said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has "really underperformed" in his 2024 presidential campaign, former GOP Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan says, calling it "one of the worst" campaigns he's seen so far.@MajorCBS: "Is it over for DeSantis?"

Hogan: "I think it's getting close to being over." pic.twitter.com/Krx8AX9L0x

— CBS News (@CBSNews) June 21, 2023

---

The rumors of the death of Ron DeSantis have been greatly exaggerated. Once Biden exits the race, things will get REALLY interesting.

The talk of a dual party Independent ticket with Joe Manchin running for President and a Republican VP running mate is fascinating to me. Should the Dems and Republicans not abandon a Biden vs. Trump rematch that nobody wants, such a ticket could have a real shot. I certainly would consider it. We shall see.

---

RDS has struggled. It is really, really, really hard to step up from state politics to national politics. He hasta get better. And he may do exactly that. Or he may not. He does have time to do so. The bigger problem is just the emerging perception that, because of his stumbles and overall under-performance to expectations, he's not ready for the big-stage. He's got to break that cycle sooner rather than later, or perception will set in & become reality.

Frankly, if he doesn't get a lot better, he might even miss the ticket altogether.

---

He's basically hired a Jeb Bush campaign blueprint and it absolutely sucks.

The guy is missing out on populist messaging. He's also too formal with his public speaking. He needs to talk personal and bring the fire.

I'd choose RFK Jr. over Desantis at this point.

Leftists have no convening force other hate for Republicans

DeSantis’ites and Leftists
meet in the middle like a venn diagram in they both want Biden re-elected, although veneer displays differently.
DeSantis’ites get to be cowards but ‘moral’, Left gets to gulag its foes https://t.co/f32zWewPGl

— Adam Townsend (@adamscrabble) June 27, 2023

---

What exactly has RDS been moderate on? He's actually getting hammered by the moderate, corporate types for campaigning to the right of Trump.

---

I didn't say he was moderate, but his campaign messaging is.

Good breakdown on why:
https://www.adamtownsend.me/desantis-campaign/?clear-cache

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Trump is attacking DeSantis only from the left ... when his not making moronic comments.

---

What helped Trump is that he said sh i t that people were thinking but we're too afraid to say and it gave him loads of publicity.

"Because you'd be in jail". He straight up talked sh it like the general public does. Desantis won't do that. He behaves like a corporate stooge being watched by HR.

This also brings up another point about GOP and many GOP voters who think "we need to bring respect and formalism back". They don't get it. You can't allow democrats to be ruthless and try to appear like you won't stoop down to their level, it's a losing strategy.

Doc Holliday said:

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sombear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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whiterock said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has "really underperformed" in his 2024 presidential campaign, former GOP Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan says, calling it "one of the worst" campaigns he's seen so far.@MajorCBS: "Is it over for DeSantis?"

Hogan: "I think it's getting close to being over." pic.twitter.com/Krx8AX9L0x

— CBS News (@CBSNews) June 21, 2023

---

The rumors of the death of Ron DeSantis have been greatly exaggerated. Once Biden exits the race, things will get REALLY interesting.

The talk of a dual party Independent ticket with Joe Manchin running for President and a Republican VP running mate is fascinating to me. Should the Dems and Republicans not abandon a Biden vs. Trump rematch that nobody wants, such a ticket could have a real shot. I certainly would consider it. We shall see.

---

RDS has struggled. It is really, really, really hard to step up from state politics to national politics. He hasta get better. And he may do exactly that. Or he may not. He does have time to do so. The bigger problem is just the emerging perception that, because of his stumbles and overall under-performance to expectations, he's not ready for the big-stage. He's got to break that cycle sooner rather than later, or perception will set in & become reality.

Frankly, if he doesn't get a lot better, he might even miss the ticket altogether.

---

He's basically hired a Jeb Bush campaign blueprint and it absolutely sucks.

The guy is missing out on populist messaging. He's also too formal with his public speaking. He needs to talk personal and bring the fire.

I'd choose RFK Jr. over Desantis at this point.

Leftists have no convening force other hate for Republicans

DeSantis’ites and Leftists
meet in the middle like a venn diagram in they both want Biden re-elected, although veneer displays differently.
DeSantis’ites get to be cowards but ‘moral’, Left gets to gulag its foes https://t.co/f32zWewPGl

— Adam Townsend (@adamscrabble) June 27, 2023

---

What exactly has RDS been moderate on? He's actually getting hammered by the moderate, corporate types for campaigning to the right of Trump.

---

I didn't say he was moderate, but his campaign messaging is.

Good breakdown on why:
https://www.adamtownsend.me/desantis-campaign/?clear-cache

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I read the whole thing. I saw nothing about being too moderate. It's mostly a critique of his website, materials, and ads. And BTW, I love the ads and the flyer that this guy criticizes. His website is fine. No worse than Trump's.

Doc Holliday said:

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whiterock said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has "really underperformed" in his 2024 presidential campaign, former GOP Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan says, calling it "one of the worst" campaigns he's seen so far.@MajorCBS: "Is it over for DeSantis?"

Hogan: "I think it's getting close to being over." pic.twitter.com/Krx8AX9L0x

— CBS News (@CBSNews) June 21, 2023

---

The rumors of the death of Ron DeSantis have been greatly exaggerated. Once Biden exits the race, things will get REALLY interesting.

The talk of a dual party Independent ticket with Joe Manchin running for President and a Republican VP running mate is fascinating to me. Should the Dems and Republicans not abandon a Biden vs. Trump rematch that nobody wants, such a ticket could have a real shot. I certainly would consider it. We shall see.

---

RDS has struggled. It is really, really, really hard to step up from state politics to national politics. He hasta get better. And he may do exactly that. Or he may not. He does have time to do so. The bigger problem is just the emerging perception that, because of his stumbles and overall under-performance to expectations, he's not ready for the big-stage. He's got to break that cycle sooner rather than later, or perception will set in & become reality.

Frankly, if he doesn't get a lot better, he might even miss the ticket altogether.

---

He's basically hired a Jeb Bush campaign blueprint and it absolutely sucks.

The guy is missing out on populist messaging. He's also too formal with his public speaking. He needs to talk personal and bring the fire.

I'd choose RFK Jr. over Desantis at this point.

Leftists have no convening force other hate for Republicans

DeSantis’ites and Leftists
meet in the middle like a venn diagram in they both want Biden re-elected, although veneer displays differently.
DeSantis’ites get to be cowards but ‘moral’, Left gets to gulag its foes https://t.co/f32zWewPGl

— Adam Townsend (@adamscrabble) June 27, 2023

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Stay strong my friend. We are still very early in the game. I hate to say it, but DeSantis' bulldog, attack dog message needs to be tempered somewhat. He is going to need to pull in the moderate , sane Democrats that remain.

Tim Scott is the opposite. He needs to find a little bit of a mean streak if he is going to stand a chance and make a serious run.

RFK, Jr. has already been torpedoed by the Democrats, much like they did Tulsi Gabbard in 2020. Only sooner. The only way he has an impact is if he runs Independent or Third Party.

Doc Holliday said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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sombear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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whiterock said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has "really underperformed" in his 2024 presidential campaign, former GOP Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan says, calling it "one of the worst" campaigns he's seen so far.@MajorCBS: "Is it over for DeSantis?"

Hogan: "I think it's getting close to being over." pic.twitter.com/Krx8AX9L0x

— CBS News (@CBSNews) June 21, 2023

---

The rumors of the death of Ron DeSantis have been greatly exaggerated. Once Biden exits the race, things will get REALLY interesting.

The talk of a dual party Independent ticket with Joe Manchin running for President and a Republican VP running mate is fascinating to me. Should the Dems and Republicans not abandon a Biden vs. Trump rematch that nobody wants, such a ticket could have a real shot. I certainly would consider it. We shall see.

---

RDS has struggled. It is really, really, really hard to step up from state politics to national politics. He hasta get better. And he may do exactly that. Or he may not. He does have time to do so. The bigger problem is just the emerging perception that, because of his stumbles and overall under-performance to expectations, he's not ready for the big-stage. He's got to break that cycle sooner rather than later, or perception will set in & become reality.

Frankly, if he doesn't get a lot better, he might even miss the ticket altogether.

---

He's basically hired a Jeb Bush campaign blueprint and it absolutely sucks.

The guy is missing out on populist messaging. He's also too formal with his public speaking. He needs to talk personal and bring the fire.

I'd choose RFK Jr. over Desantis at this point.

Leftists have no convening force other hate for Republicans

DeSantis’ites and Leftists
meet in the middle like a venn diagram in they both want Biden re-elected, although veneer displays differently.
DeSantis’ites get to be cowards but ‘moral’, Left gets to gulag its foes https://t.co/f32zWewPGl

— Adam Townsend (@adamscrabble) June 27, 2023

---

What exactly has RDS been moderate on? He's actually getting hammered by the moderate, corporate types for campaigning to the right of Trump.

---

I didn't say he was moderate, but his campaign messaging is.

Good breakdown on why:
https://www.adamtownsend.me/desantis-campaign/?clear-cache

---

Trump is attacking DeSantis only from the left ... when his not making moronic comments.

---

What helped Trump is that he said sh i t that people were thinking but we're too afraid to say and it gave him loads of publicity.

"Because you'd be in jail". He straight up talked sh it like the general public does. Desantis won't do that. He behaves like a corporate stooge being watched by HR.

This also brings up another point about GOP and many GOP voters who think "we need to bring respect and formalism back". They don't get it. You can't allow democrats to be ruthless and try to appear like you won't stoop down to their level, it's a losing strategy.

---

1. Trump barely beat one of the least likely politicians in history.
2. Trump lost to a corpse.
3. Virtually every Trump-backed candidate lost in 2022.

Trump is a loser.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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sombear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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whiterock said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has "really underperformed" in his 2024 presidential campaign, former GOP Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan says, calling it "one of the worst" campaigns he's seen so far.@MajorCBS: "Is it over for DeSantis?"

Hogan: "I think it's getting close to being over." pic.twitter.com/Krx8AX9L0x

— CBS News (@CBSNews) June 21, 2023

---

The rumors of the death of Ron DeSantis have been greatly exaggerated. Once Biden exits the race, things will get REALLY interesting.

The talk of a dual party Independent ticket with Joe Manchin running for President and a Republican VP running mate is fascinating to me. Should the Dems and Republicans not abandon a Biden vs. Trump rematch that nobody wants, such a ticket could have a real shot. I certainly would consider it. We shall see.

---

RDS has struggled. It is really, really, really hard to step up from state politics to national politics. He hasta get better. And he may do exactly that. Or he may not. He does have time to do so. The bigger problem is just the emerging perception that, because of his stumbles and overall under-performance to expectations, he's not ready for the big-stage. He's got to break that cycle sooner rather than later, or perception will set in & become reality.

Frankly, if he doesn't get a lot better, he might even miss the ticket altogether.

---

He's basically hired a Jeb Bush campaign blueprint and it absolutely sucks.

The guy is missing out on populist messaging. He's also too formal with his public speaking. He needs to talk personal and bring the fire.

I'd choose RFK Jr. over Desantis at this point.

Leftists have no convening force other hate for Republicans

DeSantis’ites and Leftists
meet in the middle like a venn diagram in they both want Biden re-elected, although veneer displays differently.
DeSantis’ites get to be cowards but ‘moral’, Left gets to gulag its foes https://t.co/f32zWewPGl

— Adam Townsend (@adamscrabble) June 27, 2023

---

What exactly has RDS been moderate on? He's actually getting hammered by the moderate, corporate types for campaigning to the right of Trump.

---

I didn't say he was moderate, but his campaign messaging is.

Good breakdown on why:
https://www.adamtownsend.me/desantis-campaign/?clear-cache

---

Trump is attacking DeSantis only from the left ... when his not making moronic comments.

---

What helped Trump is that he said sh i t that people were thinking but we're too afraid to say and it gave him loads of publicity.

"Because you'd be in jail". He straight up talked sh it like the general public does. Desantis won't do that. He behaves like a corporate stooge being watched by HR.

This also brings up another point about GOP and many GOP voters who think "we need to bring respect and formalism back". They don't get it. You can't allow democrats to be ruthless and try to appear like you won't stoop down to their level, it's a losing strategy.

---

1. Trump barely beat one of the least likely politicians in history.
2. Trump lost to a corpse.
3. Virtually every Trump-backed candidate lost in 2022.

Trump is a loser.

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Agreed, we don't need Trump.

Desantis is smart and he wields his power to crush the left, but he's got to bring up his polling and appeal to a massive audience or he's not gonna make it.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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sombear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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whiterock said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has "really underperformed" in his 2024 presidential campaign, former GOP Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan says, calling it "one of the worst" campaigns he's seen so far.@MajorCBS: "Is it over for DeSantis?"

Hogan: "I think it's getting close to being over." pic.twitter.com/Krx8AX9L0x

— CBS News (@CBSNews) June 21, 2023

---

The rumors of the death of Ron DeSantis have been greatly exaggerated. Once Biden exits the race, things will get REALLY interesting.

The talk of a dual party Independent ticket with Joe Manchin running for President and a Republican VP running mate is fascinating to me. Should the Dems and Republicans not abandon a Biden vs. Trump rematch that nobody wants, such a ticket could have a real shot. I certainly would consider it. We shall see.

---

RDS has struggled. It is really, really, really hard to step up from state politics to national politics. He hasta get better. And he may do exactly that. Or he may not. He does have time to do so. The bigger problem is just the emerging perception that, because of his stumbles and overall under-performance to expectations, he's not ready for the big-stage. He's got to break that cycle sooner rather than later, or perception will set in & become reality.

Frankly, if he doesn't get a lot better, he might even miss the ticket altogether.

---

He's basically hired a Jeb Bush campaign blueprint and it absolutely sucks.

The guy is missing out on populist messaging. He's also too formal with his public speaking. He needs to talk personal and bring the fire.

I'd choose RFK Jr. over Desantis at this point.

Leftists have no convening force other hate for Republicans

DeSantis’ites and Leftists
meet in the middle like a venn diagram in they both want Biden re-elected, although veneer displays differently.
DeSantis’ites get to be cowards but ‘moral’, Left gets to gulag its foes https://t.co/f32zWewPGl

— Adam Townsend (@adamscrabble) June 27, 2023

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What exactly has RDS been moderate on? He's actually getting hammered by the moderate, corporate types for campaigning to the right of Trump.

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I didn't say he was moderate, but his campaign messaging is.

Good breakdown on why:
https://www.adamtownsend.me/desantis-campaign/?clear-cache

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Trump is attacking DeSantis only from the left ... when his not making moronic comments.

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What helped Trump is that he said sh i t that people were thinking but we're too afraid to say and it gave him loads of publicity.

"Because you'd be in jail". He straight up talked sh it like the general public does. Desantis won't do that. He behaves like a corporate stooge being watched by HR.

This also brings up another point about GOP and many GOP voters who think "we need to bring respect and formalism back". They don't get it. You can't allow democrats to be ruthless and try to appear like you won't stoop down to their level, it's a losing strategy.

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1. Trump barely beat one of the least likely politicians in history.
2. Trump lost to a corpse.
3. Virtually every Trump-backed candidate lost in 2022.

Trump is a loser.

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It's hard to win a rigged election.

Doc Holliday said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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sombear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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whiterock said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has "really underperformed" in his 2024 presidential campaign, former GOP Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan says, calling it "one of the worst" campaigns he's seen so far.@MajorCBS: "Is it over for DeSantis?"

Hogan: "I think it's getting close to being over." pic.twitter.com/Krx8AX9L0x

— CBS News (@CBSNews) June 21, 2023

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The rumors of the death of Ron DeSantis have been greatly exaggerated. Once Biden exits the race, things will get REALLY interesting.

The talk of a dual party Independent ticket with Joe Manchin running for President and a Republican VP running mate is fascinating to me. Should the Dems and Republicans not abandon a Biden vs. Trump rematch that nobody wants, such a ticket could have a real shot. I certainly would consider it. We shall see.

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RDS has struggled. It is really, really, really hard to step up from state politics to national politics. He hasta get better. And he may do exactly that. Or he may not. He does have time to do so. The bigger problem is just the emerging perception that, because of his stumbles and overall under-performance to expectations, he's not ready for the big-stage. He's got to break that cycle sooner rather than later, or perception will set in & become reality.

Frankly, if he doesn't get a lot better, he might even miss the ticket altogether.

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He's basically hired a Jeb Bush campaign blueprint and it absolutely sucks.

The guy is missing out on populist messaging. He's also too formal with his public speaking. He needs to talk personal and bring the fire.

I'd choose RFK Jr. over Desantis at this point.

Leftists have no convening force other hate for Republicans

DeSantis’ites and Leftists
meet in the middle like a venn diagram in they both want Biden re-elected, although veneer displays differently.
DeSantis’ites get to be cowards but ‘moral’, Left gets to gulag its foes https://t.co/f32zWewPGl

— Adam Townsend (@adamscrabble) June 27, 2023

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What exactly has RDS been moderate on? He's actually getting hammered by the moderate, corporate types for campaigning to the right of Trump.

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I didn't say he was moderate, but his campaign messaging is.

Good breakdown on why:
https://www.adamtownsend.me/desantis-campaign/?clear-cache

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Trump is attacking DeSantis only from the left ... when his not making moronic comments.

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What helped Trump is that he said sh i t that people were thinking but we're too afraid to say and it gave him loads of publicity.

"Because you'd be in jail". He straight up talked sh it like the general public does. Desantis won't do that. He behaves like a corporate stooge being watched by HR.

This also brings up another point about GOP and many GOP voters who think "we need to bring respect and formalism back". They don't get it. You can't allow democrats to be ruthless and try to appear like you won't stoop down to their level, it's a losing strategy.

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1. Trump barely beat one of the least likely politicians in history.
2. Trump lost to a corpse.
3. Virtually every Trump-backed candidate lost in 2022.

Trump is a loser.

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Agreed, we don't need Trump.

Desantis is smart and he wields his power to crush the left, but he's got to bring up his polling and appeal to a massive audience or he's not gonna make it.

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So you like DeSantis, but you'd choose RFK because DeSantis isn't emotional enough? I don't get it.

muddybrazos said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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sombear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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whiterock said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has "really underperformed" in his 2024 presidential campaign, former GOP Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan says, calling it "one of the worst" campaigns he's seen so far.@MajorCBS: "Is it over for DeSantis?"

Hogan: "I think it's getting close to being over." pic.twitter.com/Krx8AX9L0x

— CBS News (@CBSNews) June 21, 2023

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The rumors of the death of Ron DeSantis have been greatly exaggerated. Once Biden exits the race, things will get REALLY interesting.

The talk of a dual party Independent ticket with Joe Manchin running for President and a Republican VP running mate is fascinating to me. Should the Dems and Republicans not abandon a Biden vs. Trump rematch that nobody wants, such a ticket could have a real shot. I certainly would consider it. We shall see.

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RDS has struggled. It is really, really, really hard to step up from state politics to national politics. He hasta get better. And he may do exactly that. Or he may not. He does have time to do so. The bigger problem is just the emerging perception that, because of his stumbles and overall under-performance to expectations, he's not ready for the big-stage. He's got to break that cycle sooner rather than later, or perception will set in & become reality.

Frankly, if he doesn't get a lot better, he might even miss the ticket altogether.

---

He's basically hired a Jeb Bush campaign blueprint and it absolutely sucks.

The guy is missing out on populist messaging. He's also too formal with his public speaking. He needs to talk personal and bring the fire.

I'd choose RFK Jr. over Desantis at this point.

Leftists have no convening force other hate for Republicans

DeSantis’ites and Leftists
meet in the middle like a venn diagram in they both want Biden re-elected, although veneer displays differently.
DeSantis’ites get to be cowards but ‘moral’, Left gets to gulag its foes https://t.co/f32zWewPGl

— Adam Townsend (@adamscrabble) June 27, 2023

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What exactly has RDS been moderate on? He's actually getting hammered by the moderate, corporate types for campaigning to the right of Trump.

---

I didn't say he was moderate, but his campaign messaging is.

Good breakdown on why:
https://www.adamtownsend.me/desantis-campaign/?clear-cache

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Trump is attacking DeSantis only from the left ... when his not making moronic comments.

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What helped Trump is that he said sh i t that people were thinking but we're too afraid to say and it gave him loads of publicity.

"Because you'd be in jail". He straight up talked sh it like the general public does. Desantis won't do that. He behaves like a corporate stooge being watched by HR.

This also brings up another point about GOP and many GOP voters who think "we need to bring respect and formalism back". They don't get it. You can't allow democrats to be ruthless and try to appear like you won't stoop down to their level, it's a losing strategy.

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1. Trump barely beat one of the least likely politicians in history.
2. Trump lost to a corpse.
3. Virtually every Trump-backed candidate lost in 2022.

Trump is a loser.

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It's hard to win a rigged election.

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Okay. Let's grant your correct. What specifically is Trump's plan to ensure the 2024 election is not rigged?