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I wonder just how constitutional that really is. Possibly sending American citizens to serve a prison sentence in El Salvador seems like it would be well outside the bounds.

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I wonder also. Non-US citizens would likely be the group to go until they can be relocated to their home country. Not sure if any of this will ever happen. May just be a way to incentivize the criminal element of the illegal population to self deport.

It’s cool to have a President that values literally everyone’s opinion, not just self-proclaimed experts and pompous do-nothing bureaucrats. pic.twitter.com/cg6mMmwh3p

— James Laverty (@VillageWest14) February 4, 2025

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nein51 said:

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I wonder just how constitutional that really is. Possibly sending American citizens to serve a prison sentence in El Salvador seems like it would be well outside the bounds.

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agreed, I don't think we should be doing that for citizens. I can imagine democrats sending J6 protestors there.

Only makes sense if it's a hardened illegal (gang or cartel for example). Most illegals should be sent home (at their expense if possible), but there are some home countries that cannot be trusted to keep the really bad ones imprisoned.

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Maybe send our death row inmates permanently so that the Dems don't release them back into society when they get some power...

Prisons should be miserable. Horrible everyday. Hopefully Trump will make them so nasty that criminals are truly feartul of going to them. Many of the illegals have come on TV saying that they get to go inside for a period to get their teeth fixed, healthcare, etc.

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I'm not soft on crime but it should be pointed out that making prisons miserable doesn't actually accomplish much. It makes non violent criminals violent and it creates a de facto criminal organization inside the prison walls that often extends beyond them.

You do get healthcare in prison and they will extract a tooth. They aren't getting braces and tooth whitening after seeing the prison doctor for the sniffles. Prisons ARE horrible places.

Now, ours may be nicer than others, in that we treat people much better, in general on the inside than South America or Asia.

However, I'm not sure I'm ok with the U.S. becoming a place that commits human rights violations just because someone is in prison.

The overlap in the venn diagram of the prison population and the single parent household is huge. We need to heavily disincentivize single parent homes via welfare reforms and a return to the nuclear family. When we do so we will see a reduction in the prison population.

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I'm for building a prison with high walls, dump them all inside and furnish hand held weapons. Think Thunderdome... Nobody wanted to go into Thunderdome

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Jacques Strap said:

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Trade War Over? Mexican President Says Tariffs Delayed For Month After Deploying 10,000 Troops To Border To Halt Fentanyl

Here is a translation of what she said:

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We had a good conversation with President Trump with great respect for our relationship and sovereignty; we reached a series of agreements:
1. Mexico will immediately reinforce the northern border with 10,000 members of the National Guard to prevent drug trafficking from Mexico to the United States, particularly fentanyl.
2. The United States is committed to working to prevent the trafficking of high-powered weapons to Mexico.
3. Our teams will begin working today on two fronts: security and trade.
4. They are pausing tariffs for one month from now.

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Sostuvimos una buena conversación con el presidente Trump con mucho respeto a nuestra relación y la soberanía; llegamos a una serie de acuerdos:

1.México reforzará la frontera norte con 10 mil elementos de la Guardia Nacional de forma inmediata, para evitar el tráfico de drogas…

— Claudia Sheinbaum Pardo (@Claudiashein) February 3, 2025

For three days a lot of the far left has actively rooted against America and argued we’d get nothing out of President Trunp’s demands that Mexico secure its country.

Well, how do you like them apples? pic.twitter.com/NBpkRHXjko

— JD Vance (@JDVance) February 3, 2025

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Got what he wanted. Well played. Credit where credit is due.

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A smart man who's been wrong about everything, like some here, at some point would start to look at what the common denominator is, and realize that his thinking is broken. But that'd take a smart man, we will see where you all fall. I'm suspect it'll be more orange man bad and panic.

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it will depend on what he does.

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Like I said, you've been the common denominator, and you've been wrong, constantly.

Of course it will depend on what he does, for us normies anyway, but for you TDSers, you automatically assume the sky is falling. You can't help yourselves.

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Some things yes, some things no. Can't remember. Please link me to the scorecard.

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You - 0
Trump - all the points

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Funny how you focus only on my disagreements with Trump. Not the things I agree with him on or the stuff about Bide, Harris, or anyone else. You seem singularly focused on Trump, almost obsessed. Let's talk about that. How long have you had a Crush on Donald? Does he know?

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Hah, pretty sure you only focus on your disagreements with Trump. You'll drama all day about what he's doing wrong, but then you won't bother defending him for what he's done right. He's right way more than he's wrong. You just don't like him so you b&m all over him.

As for my crush, I definitely prefer my president's with fake orange tans. Just something so exotic about him don't ya think?

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I actually said he knocked the first 10 days out of the park, that is pretty positive.

You got me on the orange tan...

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nein51 said:

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I wonder just how constitutional that really is. Possibly sending American citizens to serve a prison sentence in El Salvador seems like it would be well outside the bounds.

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agreed, I don't think we should be doing that for citizens. I can imagine democrats sending J6 protestors there.

Only makes sense if it's a hardened illegal (gang or cartel for example). Most illegals should be sent home (at their expense if possible), but there are some home countries that cannot be trusted to keep the really bad ones imprisoned.

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Maybe send our death row inmates permanently so that the Dems don't release them back into society when they get some power...

Prisons should be miserable. Horrible everyday. Hopefully Trump will make them so nasty that criminals are truly feartul of going to them. Many of the illegals have come on TV saying that they get to go inside for a period to get their teeth fixed, healthcare, etc.

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I'm not soft on crime but it should be pointed out that making prisons miserable doesn't actually accomplish much. It makes non violent criminals violent and it creates a de facto criminal organization inside the prison walls that often extends beyond them.

You do get healthcare in prison and they will extract a tooth. They aren't getting braces and tooth whitening after seeing the prison doctor for the sniffles. Prisons ARE horrible places.

Now, ours may be nicer than others, in that we treat people much better, in general on the inside than South America or Asia.

However, I'm not sure I'm ok with the U.S. becoming a place that commits human rights violations just because someone is in prison.

The overlap in the venn diagram of the prison population and the single parent household is huge. We need to heavily disincentivize single parent homes via welfare reforms and a return to the nuclear family. When we do so we will see a reduction in the prison population.

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Yep, no reason an American citizen should be treated differently in a US prison or one we contract with outside of our borders. We should not send our citizens to foreign agents. And I don't think Trump or the US will.

For some context, the US has added $23 TRILLION of debt since 2008, a 230% increase.

Since 2020, total US debt is up $13 trillion or $2.6 trillion PER YEAR for 5 straight years.

Much of this debt was refinanced last year and another major block of it is due in 2025. pic.twitter.com/c4QMAxBGWM

— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) February 4, 2025

As they flood the market with bonds, bond prices fall and yields rise.

It's simple supply and demand.

This is why REAL YIELDS have moved in a straight-line higher since 2022.

Real yields suggest inflation isn't the primary driver behind the recent move higher in rates. pic.twitter.com/bAbMOsYF2l

— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) February 4, 2025

This explains the surge in gold which is pricing-in uncertainty and deficit spending.

On December 20, we posted this bullish alert for our premium members calling for gold to $2850.

Members just cashed in a +$210 rally.

Subscribe below to our alerts:https://t.co/SJRZ4FrfLE pic.twitter.com/V0Rf6fweon

— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) February 4, 2025

The maturity schedule for the $9.2 trillion of US government debt is heavily weighted to the front-half of 2025.

Between January and June 2025, nearly 70% of this $9.2 trillion will need to be refinanced.

The average rate on this debt is set to jump by ~1 percentage point.

— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) February 4, 2025

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Everyone keeps saying porous northern border but from what part of Canada to what part of the U.S.? I live 2 hours from the Canadian border, I've been escorted back into US waters by a Canadian CG ship when we drifted too far. Crossing in NY, Ohio and Michigan is kind of a pain in the ass and most of that terrain would be an utter disaster for like 6-8 months of the year.

Is this on the Washington state side?

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the Montana and North Dakota sectors are guarded by a barbed wire fence in most places, and nothing but signposts in a few areas. My dogs have crossed the border and found birds forcing me to "go international" to fetch them off the point. We've taken pictures standing/sitting at the small statues marking the border. Some of the homesteads (which are served by well-maintained grid roads) are within a few yards of the border. There are hundreds of places where improved state or county roads on either side of the border are separated by yards rather than miles. Visibility is unlimited. The terrain is flat farmland, and every field is accessible in dry weather via two-track paths.. I can think of a few spots where, in dry weather, you could cross the border in a Camaro in 3rd gear and be on a grid road at 70mph in a minute or two, and asphalt in 10 minutes or less.

The southern border, by comparison, mostly rocky or deep sand ranchland poorly served by internal farm roads. Yes, vehicles can and do cross it, but not at any speed, and it might take up to an hour to hit a road improved enough to hit anything approaching highway speeds. Our lease in So. Tx right now is so sandy that it's not traversable in 2wd, even on some of the two-tracks.

All of my USBP contacts are in So. Texas, so I can't speak for Canada, but I can tell you that each of my contacts have a 10mi sector that is "theirs." If a sensor goes off, they have to respond/investigate. Few of them are going to go out alone at night to respond. Might have been a cow walking near a sensor setting it off. Also could be an armed cartel group passing by. Figure it out in the AM.... A group on foot has a long walk (up to 80 miles) to get past the checkpoints, so there will be chances to intercept.

In So. Tx south of the checkpoints, there is a Sheriff, DPS, or USBP vehicle idling at every median crossover. You can blaze past them at 85mph plus and they won't react. They're not there to catch speeders. They're there to spot people picking up groups to ferry them closer to the checkpoints (to reduce the length of the trek on foot). It's a very heavy visible presence. many of the borrow ditches are plowed/dragged to help spot footprints. (Drags are usually a handful of old tires wired together).

There is nothing remotely approaching that on the MT/ND border. Scarcely ever see anybody (LE or not).

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I was in Kingsville for a few years. It was similar to what you are saying. A bit over 100 miles from the border but there was nothing but the massive King Ranch in between. And it is barren. Lived there for three years and never saw a cowboy anywhere except when I went on a tour of the homestead.
Owned property in Kingsville until a couple of years ago. Had our AC stolen by what we think were illegals, not once but three times, not to mention the regular copper stealing. They finally caught them.

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Before the 63 mile long Bush Wall went up seperating Juraez, Mexico; almost 200 vehicles PER WEEK were being stolen from Americans in and around El Paso. Illegals tried to steal my truck twice but it had a special kill switch so both times they gave up and settled for stealing the truck's tailgate.

So many houses were robbed there was a huge business in putting iron bars over the doors and windows of El Paso homes.

On my place ( one mile from the international bridge ) Illegals stole hay, hand tools, my shotgun, shovels, buckets and I even was caught one having sex with a calf.

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lol dude must have been a real loser. It's not like they don't have cattle in Mexico.

once you get a bit further away from the border, most of the "issues" on the ranches are illegals breaking into the house for food, water, or to escape the heat/cold/rain. Early one morning last year, a friend found a young lady curled up at the front gate of the Jones Alta Vista. It was 40-something degrees and she was listless, in hypothermia. She'd made it a minimum of 45mi and was 14mi away from the likely rendezvous point on Hwy 285 It's a grueling trek. Not all of them make it.

our lease camp is AT a major drop off point, which works out to be a good thing. They are wanting to get as far away from the highway as possible as quickly as possible, so we are not an attractive target. Still, when I'm alone (which is often) I pull my Ed Brown 1911 out of the case as I'm approaching the gate and open carry at all times on the property.

I saw USBP inspecting footprints in the plowed borrow ditch as I pulled out of camp on Sunday morning. 200yds from camp. North boundary of our lease is game fenced. You cannot go 10ft on that fence without spotting obvious damage from people scaling it....for 5 miles.

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Everyone keeps saying porous northern border but from what part of Canada to what part of the U.S.? I live 2 hours from the Canadian border, I've been escorted back into US waters by a Canadian CG ship when we drifted too far. Crossing in NY, Ohio and Michigan is kind of a pain in the ass and most of that terrain would be an utter disaster for like 6-8 months of the year.

Is this on the Washington state side?

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the Montana and North Dakota sectors are guarded by a barbed wire fence in most places, and nothing but signposts in a few areas. My dogs have crossed the border and found birds forcing me to "go international" to fetch them off the point. We've taken pictures standing/sitting at the small statues marking the border. Some of the homesteads (which are served by well-maintained grid roads) are within a few yards of the border. There are hundreds of places where improved state or county roads on either side of the border are separated by yards rather than miles. Visibility is unlimited. The terrain is flat farmland, and every field is accessible in dry weather via two-track paths.. I can think of a few spots where, in dry weather, you could cross the border in a Camaro in 3rd gear and be on a grid road at 70mph in a minute or two, and asphalt in 10 minutes or less.

The southern border, by comparison, mostly rocky or deep sand ranchland poorly served by internal farm roads. Yes, vehicles can and do cross it, but not at any speed, and it might take up to an hour to hit a road improved enough to hit anything approaching highway speeds. Our lease in So. Tx right now is so sandy that it's not traversable in 2wd, even on some of the two-tracks.

All of my USBP contacts are in So. Texas, so I can't speak for Canada, but I can tell you that each of my contacts have a 10mi sector that is "theirs." If a sensor goes off, they have to respond/investigate. Few of them are going to go out alone at night to respond. Might have been a cow walking near a sensor setting it off. Also could be an armed cartel group passing by. Figure it out in the AM.... A group on foot has a long walk (up to 80 miles) to get past the checkpoints, so there will be chances to intercept.

In So. Tx south of the checkpoints, there is a Sheriff, DPS, or USBP vehicle idling at every median crossover. You can blaze past them at 85mph plus and they won't react. They're not there to catch speeders. They're there to spot people picking up groups to ferry them closer to the checkpoints (to reduce the length of the trek on foot). It's a very heavy visible presence. many of the borrow ditches are plowed/dragged to help spot footprints. (Drags are usually a handful of old tires wired together).

There is nothing remotely approaching that on the MT/ND border. Scarcely ever see anybody (LE or not).

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I was in Kingsville for a few years. It was similar to what you are saying. A bit over 100 miles from the border but there was nothing but the massive King Ranch in between. And it is barren. Lived there for three years and never saw a cowboy anywhere except when I went on a tour of the homestead.
Owned property in Kingsville until a couple of years ago. Had our AC stolen by what we think were illegals, not once but three times, not to mention the regular copper stealing. They finally caught them.

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Before the 63 mile long Bush Wall went up seperating Juraez, Mexico; almost 200 vehicles PER WEEK were being stolen from Americans in and around El Paso. Illegals tried to steal my truck twice but it had a special kill switch so both times they gave up and settled for stealing the truck's tailgate.

So many houses were robbed there was a huge business in putting iron bars over the doors and windows of El Paso homes.

On my place ( one mile from the international bridge ) Illegals stole hay, hand tools, my shotgun, shovels, buckets and I even was caught one having sex with a calf.

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lol dude must have been a real loser. It's not like they don't have cattle in Mexico.

once you get a bit further away from the border, most of the "issues" on the ranches are illegals breaking into the house for food, water, or to escape the heat/cold/rain. Early one morning last year, a friend found a young lady curled up at the front gate of the Jones Alta Vista. It was 40-something degrees and she was listless, in hypothermia. She'd made it a minimum of 45mi and was 14mi away from the likely rendezvous point on Hwy 285 It's a grueling trek. Not all of them make it.

our lease camp is AT a major drop off point, which works out to be a good thing. They are wanting to get as far away from the highway as possible as quickly as possible, so we are not an attractive target. Still, when I'm alone (which is often) I pull my Ed Brown 1911 out of the case as I'm approaching the gate and open carry at all times on the property.

I saw USBP inspecting footprints in the plowed borrow ditch as I pulled out of camp on Sunday morning. 200yds from camp. North boundary of our lease is game fenced. You cannot go 10ft on that fence without spotting obvious damage from people scaling it....for 5 miles.

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The wet involved lived about 2 miles away...he had 4 kids if I remeber correctly.

On another occasion my foreman reported a wet living in a drainage pipe. Used needles everywhere.
Put him in the back of my truck ( with my foreman ) drove him to a food store 4 miles away. Gave him 20 bucks and dropped him off. Never saw him again.

On another occasion some wets were screwing in their car in the middle of an alfalfa field. Which of course destroyed whatever alfalfa they drove through as the field had just been irrigated.

Had to get a tractor to pull the car out.

Naturally they didn't offer to pay for the damages.

And the list goes on and on.

Redbrickbear said:

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"Trump's tariffs making everything unaffordable is probably something Democrats will be able to capitalize on."

<Checks in on the Democrats>

"Oh wait, never mind." pic.twitter.com/YBJl0rif2u

— Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania) February 2, 2025

BREAKING: The Democrat Party has tanked to 31% favorability. The party has imploded.

I just want to know who the 31% are.

— Gunther Eagleman™ (@GuntherEagleman) February 2, 2025

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Holy shit this is hilarious LOL pic.twitter.com/WQuag6wKgz

— Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) February 5, 2025

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Quick 🧵: I was thinking about how powerful a polemic DOGE is. Liberals are forced to defend every line item because the loss of any single one delegitimizes their systemic power writ large in the eyes of the public and discredits leftism as a method of political power. 1/ https://t.co/mDgUrJaY3q

— Vagrant of Rhodes 🗡️🕯️ (@vagrantwires) February 4, 2025

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Trump is going for the kill shot. And the harder left tries to stop him, the more it will highlight their corruption.

I met with a range of people in New York this week, from right-wing anons to establishment-left reporters. The sense is that the Left will concede on DEI—smart liberals consider it a failure—but they are panicking about the idea of defunding the NGOs. That will be the fight.

— Christopher F. Rufo ⚔️ (@realchrisrufo) February 4, 2025

Agreed

However yesterday's Gaza pronouncement is going to unite leftists and conservatives against Trump.

It was a huge misstep.

Trump better make a unTrump like retreat before his presidential momentum is stopped cold.

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Agreed

However yesterday's Gaza pronouncement is going to unite leftists and conservatives against Trump.

It was a huge misstep.

Trump better make a unTrump like retreat before his presidential momentum is stopped cold.

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No it isn't.

It's entirely about getting the entire Arab world to say they don't want the Palestinians. Out loud and on the record. Everyone knows they don't want them and everyone with a brain knows why; they bring chaos and misery everywhere they go.

There's no chance any Arab states accept them. This is one of the less "***" things of the last 30 days.

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Agreed

However yesterday's Gaza pronouncement is going to unite leftists and conservatives against Trump.

It was a huge misstep.

Trump better make a unTrump like retreat before his presidential momentum is stopped cold.

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No it isn't.

It's entirely about getting the entire Arab world to say they don't want the Palestinians. Out loud and on the record. Everyone knows they don't want them and everyone with a brain knows why; they bring chaos and misery everywhere they go.

There's no chance any Arab states accept them. This is one of the less "***" things of the last 30 days.

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Yeah. I really think trump has an ulterior motive here. I'm not for getting involved over there, but i'm also not currently against whatever he is up to.

But going back to what they've been doing the past century is just stupid. It doesn't work. Change course.

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Holy shit this is hilarious LOL pic.twitter.com/WQuag6wKgz

— Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) February 5, 2025

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He really knows how to handle folks. Thought that was hilarious!

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Agreed

However yesterday's Gaza pronouncement is going to unite leftists and conservatives against Trump.

It was a huge misstep.

Trump better make a unTrump like retreat before his presidential momentum is stopped cold.

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No it isn't.

It's entirely about getting the entire Arab world to say they don't want the Palestinians. Out loud and on the record. Everyone knows they don't want them and everyone with a brain knows why; they bring chaos and misery everywhere they go.

There's no chance any Arab states accept them. This is one of the less "***" things of the last 30 days.

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Yeah. I really think trump has an ulterior motive here. I'm not for getting involved over there, but i'm also not currently against whatever he is up to.

But going back to what they've been doing the past century is just stupid. It doesn't work. Change course.

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He very pro Israel. He wants Arab states to say out loud why they won't take the Palestinians. He knows why they won't do it. He knows they aren't going to do it.

But it sets up really, really well for "look we tried to give you more land but your Arab brothers didn't want to give any up and they wouldn't take you in, so you're going to have to settle for what you get".

Nothing more than setting the table for a giant "I told you so" when the real negotiations start. It very much lets the Palestinian leadership know they don't have any leverage.

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dude learned his lesson from 2016. Came incredibly well-prepared, while his enemies (predictably) totally underestimated him, not prepared for his attack. Too early to tell whether the outcome will be Issus or Gaugamela. Courts have not yet engaged, and the longer it takes for them to deploy, the more difficult it will be to repair the damage he's inflicting. He's already irreparably severed one major artery of funding (USAID) and is moving on to another (Dept of Education).

"The bottom line: Chaos isn't an accident. Trump and his aides know that the tsunami of ideas, executive orders and proclamations makes it hard for opponents to unite around a single message.

Think about you or your friends: Are you more intrigued or worked up by all his… pic.twitter.com/DgnnNddR7C

— Kyle Becker (@kylenabecker) February 5, 2025

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I've been saying this since he came out of the gate. Going slowly would have been giving the liberal left time for their patented disinformation campaigns. He is beating them out of the gates via Twitter and Fox. And it's working. Take down the disinformation campaigns while you are at it