Trump's first 100 days

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The_barBEARian said:

FLBear5630 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Guy Noir said:

boognish_bear said:




Inflation will now be on the rise. Unemployment is on the rise too. Is there a recession on the horizon?

It was going to happen sooner or later.

We are a bankrupt country and on track for our interest on debt to double GDP a decade from now... too many years of boomers kicking the can down the road.

This all should have been dealt with in 2008.

Trump is trying to raise additional funds from tariffs to off-set tax cuts.

This is not Trump's fault.


It is partly Trump's fault...

8.4 Trillion is Trump's fault.

$3.6 trillion came from COVID relief laws & EOs
$2.5 trillion from tax cut laws,and
$2.3 trillion from spending increases

This cut, cut, cut only came about after Jan 6th and Biden lawsuits. DOGE is a great way to go after your enemies and have people cheer you.


https://www.crfb.org/blogs/how-much-did-president-trump-add-debt

Renewing the tax cuts needs to happen.

We are already way overtaxed and our society needs to stop penalizing the productive members of society who are keeping things running and should start squeezing the welfare class who live off free housing, food stamps, and Medicaid.

The spending increases came during Biden's Presidency. Prior to Biden the Federal government was spending around $3-4 trillion a year... during Biden is went up to $5-6 trillion, a 50% increase.

I agree with you on COVID as I already mentioned in my previous post.

This is why I always debate you on all these global wars... America is broke and cant afford them!


I do agree with you if we are going to have this tariff policy and cozy up to Russia and China. To help on military side only to stab on trade makes no sense. Bring it home and protect our borders, we are going to need it. Trump has alienated most of our allies.
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william said:

FLBear5630 said:

william said:

meh - it's everyone's fault -

bush 43, soetoro, trump, dementia joe....

both houses of congress have dem and repube the past 25 years.

got corrupt and sloppy.

but - maybe we have some fiscal hope???

- el KKM

get back to zero based budgeting.






I think we need z-based every decade, time it with the census. Can't do every year, but every decade would be good. Should be required.
a little short term pain ain't gonna hurt nobody but the grifters.........

- KKM


They certainly have a lot more to lose than most of us do!

Unfortunately the foreign interest grifters or the grifters at the Pentagon wont be touched
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We just turned over 43 days since Trump took office. A pretty good run so far. Secured the southern border in a record time, exposed the lefties piggy bank of taxpayer's money, gutting the liberal staffing of our security agencies, unweaponizing the DOJ and so much more. And so much more to come!


It's actually incredible when you think about it.
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FLBear5630 said:

The_barBEARian said:

FLBear5630 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Guy Noir said:

boognish_bear said:




Inflation will now be on the rise. Unemployment is on the rise too. Is there a recession on the horizon?

It was going to happen sooner or later.

We are a bankrupt country and on track for our interest on debt to double GDP a decade from now... too many years of boomers kicking the can down the road.

This all should have been dealt with in 2008.

Trump is trying to raise additional funds from tariffs to off-set tax cuts.

This is not Trump's fault.


It is partly Trump's fault...

8.4 Trillion is Trump's fault.

$3.6 trillion came from COVID relief laws & EOs
$2.5 trillion from tax cut laws,and
$2.3 trillion from spending increases

This cut, cut, cut only came about after Jan 6th and Biden lawsuits. DOGE is a great way to go after your enemies and have people cheer you.


https://www.crfb.org/blogs/how-much-did-president-trump-add-debt

Renewing the tax cuts needs to happen.

We are already way overtaxed and our society needs to stop penalizing the productive members of society who are keeping things running and should start squeezing the welfare class who live off free housing, food stamps, and Medicaid.

The spending increases came during Biden's Presidency. Prior to Biden the Federal government was spending around $3-4 trillion a year... during Biden is went up to $5-6 trillion, a 50% increase.

I agree with you on COVID as I already mentioned in my previous post.

This is why I always debate you on all these global wars... America is broke and cant afford them!


I do agree with you if we are going to have this tariff policy and cozy up to Russia and China. To help on military side only to stab on trade makes no sense. Bring it home and protect our borders, we are going to need it. Trump has alienated most of our allies.

Has to be done.

We need to get our own house in order and not be worrying about the welfare of countries like Ukraine while ours is falling apart.
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Assassin said:

william said:

meh - it's everyone's fault -

bush 43, soetoro, trump, dementia joe....

both houses of congress have dem and repube the past 25 years.

got corrupt and sloppy.

but - maybe we have some fiscal hope???

- el KKM

get back to zero based budgeting.
It's not my fault. I support my local Walmart.
of course you do, fool. You mean getting the lowest possible prices available all built on slave labor as you Mercans say. Most all of that chit ain't from here. I wouldn't buy one thing from Wally World.
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J.R. said:

Assassin said:

william said:

meh - it's everyone's fault -

bush 43, soetoro, trump, dementia joe....

both houses of congress have dem and repube the past 25 years.

got corrupt and sloppy.

but - maybe we have some fiscal hope???

- el KKM

get back to zero based budgeting.
It's not my fault. I support my local Walmart.
of course you do, fool. You mean getting the lowest possible prices available all built on slave labor as you Mercans say. Most all of that chit ain't from here. I wouldn't buy one thing from Wally World.
I find wal mart neighborhood to be very useful.....

just the grocery store part of walmart.

don't need paint, fabrics, sheets or pillows, cookware and kitchen gadgetry, electronics, jewelry, bikes, potting soil, clothes, furniture or camping gear.

- KKM

depressing, yes.

practical, somewhat cheap and close by - also a yes.

Go Bears!
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FLBear5630 said:

Assassin said:

william said:

meh - it's everyone's fault -

bush 43, soetoro, trump, dementia joe....

both houses of congress have dem and repube the past 25 years.

got corrupt and sloppy.

but - maybe we have some fiscal hope???

- el KKM

get back to zero based budgeting.
It's not my fault. I support my local Walmart.


Remember when Wal-Mart was evil? Killing Main Street and Ma/Pop stores?
still is.. once a proud made in america store.. now it is all global corporate profit at the expense of the worker and less than 5% is made in america
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The_barBEARian said:

william said:

FLBear5630 said:

william said:

meh - it's everyone's fault -

bush 43, soetoro, trump, dementia joe....

both houses of congress have dem and repube the past 25 years.

got corrupt and sloppy.

but - maybe we have some fiscal hope???

- el KKM

get back to zero based budgeting.






I think we need z-based every decade, time it with the census. Can't do every year, but every decade would be good. Should be required.
a little short term pain ain't gonna hurt nobody but the grifters.........

- KKM


They certainly have a lot more to lose than most of us do!

Unfortunately the foreign interest grifters or the grifters at the Pentagon wont be touched



Disagree, there are a lot of good middle class people that have invested their life serving their country hurt by this. My niece was laid off from IRS, she did nothing but graduate and do her job. She is 32 with 3 kids married to a Pastor. Not much grift there. Know several engineers with USDOT forced to resign. These are normal people. Not high level grifters making a killing or not working. Those engineers fought to make cars safer. That was their big crime. So, this chainsaw act is hurting normal people.

Just a little fact, it is not just new hires that have a probationary period. Any promotion required 6 month probationary period. We are losing alot of capabilities. But that is good, right. Elon says so.
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The_barBEARian said:

FLBear5630 said:

The_barBEARian said:

FLBear5630 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Guy Noir said:

boognish_bear said:




Inflation will now be on the rise. Unemployment is on the rise too. Is there a recession on the horizon?

It was going to happen sooner or later.

We are a bankrupt country and on track for our interest on debt to double GDP a decade from now... too many years of boomers kicking the can down the road.

This all should have been dealt with in 2008.

Trump is trying to raise additional funds from tariffs to off-set tax cuts.

This is not Trump's fault.


It is partly Trump's fault...

8.4 Trillion is Trump's fault.

$3.6 trillion came from COVID relief laws & EOs
$2.5 trillion from tax cut laws,and
$2.3 trillion from spending increases

This cut, cut, cut only came about after Jan 6th and Biden lawsuits. DOGE is a great way to go after your enemies and have people cheer you.


https://www.crfb.org/blogs/how-much-did-president-trump-add-debt

Renewing the tax cuts needs to happen.

We are already way overtaxed and our society needs to stop penalizing the productive members of society who are keeping things running and should start squeezing the welfare class who live off free housing, food stamps, and Medicaid.

The spending increases came during Biden's Presidency. Prior to Biden the Federal government was spending around $3-4 trillion a year... during Biden is went up to $5-6 trillion, a 50% increase.

I agree with you on COVID as I already mentioned in my previous post.

This is why I always debate you on all these global wars... America is broke and cant afford them!


I do agree with you if we are going to have this tariff policy and cozy up to Russia and China. To help on military side only to stab on trade makes no sense. Bring it home and protect our borders, we are going to need it. Trump has alienated most of our allies.

Has to be done.

We need to get our own house in order and not be worrying about the welfare of countries like Ukraine while ours is falling apart.


"allies"

I know they're our allies but they only care about looking out for themselves and don't want to look out for us.

America can transform its communities and quality of life if it can resist the globalists complete sell out and control.
And no that doesn't mean isolationist or avoiding global trade.
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

The_barBEARian said:

FLBear5630 said:

The_barBEARian said:

FLBear5630 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Guy Noir said:

boognish_bear said:




Inflation will now be on the rise. Unemployment is on the rise too. Is there a recession on the horizon?

It was going to happen sooner or later.

We are a bankrupt country and on track for our interest on debt to double GDP a decade from now... too many years of boomers kicking the can down the road.

This all should have been dealt with in 2008.

Trump is trying to raise additional funds from tariffs to off-set tax cuts.

This is not Trump's fault.


It is partly Trump's fault...

8.4 Trillion is Trump's fault.

$3.6 trillion came from COVID relief laws & EOs
$2.5 trillion from tax cut laws,and
$2.3 trillion from spending increases

This cut, cut, cut only came about after Jan 6th and Biden lawsuits. DOGE is a great way to go after your enemies and have people cheer you.


https://www.crfb.org/blogs/how-much-did-president-trump-add-debt

Renewing the tax cuts needs to happen.

We are already way overtaxed and our society needs to stop penalizing the productive members of society who are keeping things running and should start squeezing the welfare class who live off free housing, food stamps, and Medicaid.

The spending increases came during Biden's Presidency. Prior to Biden the Federal government was spending around $3-4 trillion a year... during Biden is went up to $5-6 trillion, a 50% increase.

I agree with you on COVID as I already mentioned in my previous post.

This is why I always debate you on all these global wars... America is broke and cant afford them!


I do agree with you if we are going to have this tariff policy and cozy up to Russia and China. To help on military side only to stab on trade makes no sense. Bring it home and protect our borders, we are going to need it. Trump has alienated most of our allies.

Has to be done.

We need to get our own house in order and not be worrying about the welfare of countries like Ukraine while ours is falling apart.


"allies"

I know they're our allies but they only care about looking out for themselves and don't want to look out for us.

America can transform its communities and quality of life if it can resist the globalists complete sell out and control.
And no that doesn't mean isolationist or avoiding global trade.


But will they avoid us and isolate us? It is a two way street. Hubris is a *****
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FLBear5630 said:

The_barBEARian said:

william said:

FLBear5630 said:

william said:

meh - it's everyone's fault -

bush 43, soetoro, trump, dementia joe....

both houses of congress have dem and repube the past 25 years.

got corrupt and sloppy.

but - maybe we have some fiscal hope???

- el KKM

get back to zero based budgeting.






I think we need z-based every decade, time it with the census. Can't do every year, but every decade would be good. Should be required.
a little short term pain ain't gonna hurt nobody but the grifters.........

- KKM


They certainly have a lot more to lose than most of us do!

Unfortunately the foreign interest grifters or the grifters at the Pentagon wont be touched



Disagree, there are a lot of good middle class people that have invested their life serving their country hurt by this. My niece was laid off from IRS, she did nothing but graduate and do her job. She is 32 with 3 kids married to a Pastor. Not much grift there. Know several engineers with USDOT forced to resign. These are normal people. Not high level grifters making a killing or not working. Those engineers fought to make cars safer. That was their big crime. So, this chainsaw act is hurting normal people.

Just a little fact, it is not just new hires that have a probationary period. Any promotion required 6 month probationary period. We are losing alot of capabilities. But that is good, right. Elon says so.


Just so we're clear, the "act" is something nearly every business goes through.

Leaders frequently have to cut with a broad swath.

Anyone of us could be impacted directly or indirectly by cuts elsewhere. I'm sorry for the people involved, but it doesn't make it evil or wrong.

We are spending more than we take in, you can't micro-cut and hope to make a difference. Our government spending needs to be restructured and prioritized. That sucks for many, doesn't change that we need to do it.

And our benevolent government has done it to the private sector numerous times via legislation, acts and deals.
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FLBear5630 said:

The_barBEARian said:

william said:

FLBear5630 said:

william said:

meh - it's everyone's fault -

bush 43, soetoro, trump, dementia joe....

both houses of congress have dem and repube the past 25 years.

got corrupt and sloppy.

but - maybe we have some fiscal hope???

- el KKM

get back to zero based budgeting.






I think we need z-based every decade, time it with the census. Can't do every year, but every decade would be good. Should be required.
a little short term pain ain't gonna hurt nobody but the grifters.........

- KKM


They certainly have a lot more to lose than most of us do!

Unfortunately the foreign interest grifters or the grifters at the Pentagon wont be touched



Disagree, there are a lot of good middle class people that have invested their life serving their country hurt by this. My niece was laid off from IRS, she did nothing but graduate and do her job. She is 32 with 3 kids married to a Pastor. Not much grift there. Know several engineers with USDOT forced to resign. These are normal people. Not high level grifters making a killing or not working. Those engineers fought to make cars safer. That was their big crime. So, this chainsaw act is hurting normal people.

Just a little fact, it is not just new hires that have a probationary period. Any promotion required 6 month probationary period. We are losing alot of capabilities. But that is good, right. Elon says so.

Not to sound harsh or indifferent... but welcome to the real world.

I have been laid off or fired 3 or 4 times in my life.

It sucks but we live in a capitalist society. And government employees should be treated just like us poor sacks in the private sector.

I feel for you niece with the three kids though... this is why family is important. I hope you are able to help her out if you can.
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

The_barBEARian said:

william said:

FLBear5630 said:

william said:

meh - it's everyone's fault -

bush 43, soetoro, trump, dementia joe....

both houses of congress have dem and repube the past 25 years.

got corrupt and sloppy.

but - maybe we have some fiscal hope???

- el KKM

get back to zero based budgeting.






I think we need z-based every decade, time it with the census. Can't do every year, but every decade would be good. Should be required.
a little short term pain ain't gonna hurt nobody but the grifters.........

- KKM


They certainly have a lot more to lose than most of us do!

Unfortunately the foreign interest grifters or the grifters at the Pentagon wont be touched



Disagree, there are a lot of good middle class people that have invested their life serving their country hurt by this. My niece was laid off from IRS, she did nothing but graduate and do her job. She is 32 with 3 kids married to a Pastor. Not much grift there. Know several engineers with USDOT forced to resign. These are normal people. Not high level grifters making a killing or not working. Those engineers fought to make cars safer. That was their big crime. So, this chainsaw act is hurting normal people.

Just a little fact, it is not just new hires that have a probationary period. Any promotion required 6 month probationary period. We are losing alot of capabilities. But that is good, right. Elon says so.


Just so we're clear, the "act" is something nearly every business goes through.

Leaders frequently have to cut with a broad swath.

Anyone of us could be impacted directly or indirectly by cuts elsewhere. I'm sorry for the people involved, but it doesn't make it evil or wrong.

We are spending more than we take in, you can't micro-cut and hope to make a difference. Our government spending needs to be restructured and prioritized. That sucks for many, doesn't change that we need to do it.

And our benevolent government has done it to the private sector numerous times via legislation, acts and deals.

If u have a job which is doubtful.. I hope and ur ilk get indescribably fired with no due process.
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J.R. said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

The_barBEARian said:

william said:

FLBear5630 said:

william said:

meh - it's everyone's fault -

bush 43, soetoro, trump, dementia joe....

both houses of congress have dem and repube the past 25 years.

got corrupt and sloppy.

but - maybe we have some fiscal hope???

- el KKM

get back to zero based budgeting.






I think we need z-based every decade, time it with the census. Can't do every year, but every decade would be good. Should be required.
a little short term pain ain't gonna hurt nobody but the grifters.........

- KKM


They certainly have a lot more to lose than most of us do!

Unfortunately the foreign interest grifters or the grifters at the Pentagon wont be touched



Disagree, there are a lot of good middle class people that have invested their life serving their country hurt by this. My niece was laid off from IRS, she did nothing but graduate and do her job. She is 32 with 3 kids married to a Pastor. Not much grift there. Know several engineers with USDOT forced to resign. These are normal people. Not high level grifters making a killing or not working. Those engineers fought to make cars safer. That was their big crime. So, this chainsaw act is hurting normal people.

Just a little fact, it is not just new hires that have a probationary period. Any promotion required 6 month probationary period. We are losing alot of capabilities. But that is good, right. Elon says so.


Just so we're clear, the "act" is something nearly every business goes through.

Leaders frequently have to cut with a broad swath.

Anyone of us could be impacted directly or indirectly by cuts elsewhere. I'm sorry for the people involved, but it doesn't make it evil or wrong.

We are spending more than we take in, you can't micro-cut and hope to make a difference. Our government spending needs to be restructured and prioritized. That sucks for many, doesn't change that we need to do it.

And our benevolent government has done it to the private sector numerous times via legislation, acts and deals.

If u have a job which is doubtful.. I hope and ur ilk get indescribably fired with no due process.


1. Private sector doesnt require due process.
2. This is a pretty dark statement from you filled with malice. Pretty sure you are only filled with hatred here because your democrat leaders told you to be super angry that their grifting got cut. Hopefully one day you will detach your emotions from 'your team.'
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Married A Horn said:

J.R. said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

The_barBEARian said:

william said:

FLBear5630 said:

william said:

meh - it's everyone's fault -

bush 43, soetoro, trump, dementia joe....

both houses of congress have dem and repube the past 25 years.

got corrupt and sloppy.

but - maybe we have some fiscal hope???

- el KKM

get back to zero based budgeting.






I think we need z-based every decade, time it with the census. Can't do every year, but every decade would be good. Should be required.
a little short term pain ain't gonna hurt nobody but the grifters.........

- KKM


They certainly have a lot more to lose than most of us do!

Unfortunately the foreign interest grifters or the grifters at the Pentagon wont be touched



Disagree, there are a lot of good middle class people that have invested their life serving their country hurt by this. My niece was laid off from IRS, she did nothing but graduate and do her job. She is 32 with 3 kids married to a Pastor. Not much grift there. Know several engineers with USDOT forced to resign. These are normal people. Not high level grifters making a killing or not working. Those engineers fought to make cars safer. That was their big crime. So, this chainsaw act is hurting normal people.

Just a little fact, it is not just new hires that have a probationary period. Any promotion required 6 month probationary period. We are losing alot of capabilities. But that is good, right. Elon says so.


Just so we're clear, the "act" is something nearly every business goes through.

Leaders frequently have to cut with a broad swath.

Anyone of us could be impacted directly or indirectly by cuts elsewhere. I'm sorry for the people involved, but it doesn't make it evil or wrong.

We are spending more than we take in, you can't micro-cut and hope to make a difference. Our government spending needs to be restructured and prioritized. That sucks for many, doesn't change that we need to do it.

And our benevolent government has done it to the private sector numerous times via legislation, acts and deals.

If u have a job which is doubtful.. I hope and ur ilk get indescribably fired with no due process.
1. Private sector doesnt require due process.
2. This is a pretty dark statement from you filled with malice. Pretty sure you are only filled with hatred here because your democrat leaders told you to be super angry that their grifting got cut. Hopefully one day you will detach your emotions from 'your team.'
Don't pay any attention to JR, he's insignificant...
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Guy Noir said:

boognish_bear said:




Wow, now that is a mandate. I think it is limiting free speech in some cases.

The right to free speech does not include violence. Foreigners in the US don't have the same rights as Americans. If they are here illegally, they have no right to be anywhere in the US. Mostly it's common sense. But fascist universities have made a habit of condoning all gets of unruly and dangerous behavior for decades. It's about time adults said NO!
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Most people suddenly given $400 million would not be able to double it quickly. Most lottery winners blow all of it, whether a few million or 100 million, and are back where they started in short order.
โ€œIncline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!โ€
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historian said:

Most people suddenly given $400 million would not be able to double it quickly. Most lottery winners blow all of it, whether a few million or 100 million, and are back where they started in short order.
I would like to try it out though, see if it fits
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BigGameBaylorBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Guy Noir said:

boognish_bear said:




Inflation will now be on the rise. Unemployment is on the rise too. Is there a recession on the horizon?

It was going to happen sooner or later.

We are a bankrupt country and on track for our interest on debt to double GDP a decade from now... too many years of boomers kicking the can down the road.

This all should have been dealt with in 2008.

Trump is trying to raise additional funds from tariffs to off-set tax cuts.

This is not Trump's fault.


It is partly Trump's fault...

8.4 Trillion is Trump's fault.

$3.6 trillion came from COVID relief laws & EOs
$2.5 trillion from tax cut laws,and
$2.3 trillion from spending increases

This cut, cut, cut only came about after Jan 6th and Biden lawsuits. DOGE is a great way to go after your enemies and have people cheer you.





https://www.crfb.org/blogs/how-much-did-president-trump-add-debt


Biden managed to add $8.4 trillion without a global pandemic

Don't forget the 10+ million illegals the fascists put in luxury hotels on the public dime.
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Agreed. Cut taxes & cut spending. The goal should be a balanced budget every year with surpluses used to pay down debt. In time, the debt will become more manageable. Because the debt is to huge, it will take much longer than otherwise would have been the case. That's the result of decades of irresponsible spending.

I would love to see a strict requirement: cut congressional pay at least 10-20%, freeze it at that level and not allow any raises until the budget remains balanced and at least $10 trillion of the debt is paid down. And then only a moderate increase to be frozen until another $10 trillion is paid off. That might incentivize to hem to use our money more intelligently.
โ€œIncline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!โ€
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Problem with Walmart is almost everything there is made in China.
โ€œIncline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!โ€
Psalm 119:36
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historian said:

Problem with Walmart is almost everything there is made in China.
they did a new project in 2023 designed to buy more American made products. Now, I assume, we will see even more!
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Assassin said:

historian said:

Most people suddenly given $400 million would not be able to double it quickly. Most lottery winners blow all of it, whether a few million or 100 million, and are back where they started in short order.
I would like to try it out though, see if it fits

Most people would and some people could handle it intelligently. Most people wouldn't have the first clue.
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boognish_bear said:




They even say it in the graphic... the oil price and treasury yields are both going in a favorable direction for inflation readings.
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historian said:

Agreed. Cut taxes & cut spending. The goal should be a balanced budget every year with surpluses used to pay down debt. In time, the debt will become more manageable. Because the debt is to huge, it will take much longer than otherwise would have been the case. That's the result of decades of irresponsible spending.

I would love to see a strict requirement: cut congressional pay at least 10-20%, freeze it at that level and not allow any raises until the budget remains balanced and at least $10 trillion of the debt is paid down. And then only a moderate increase to be frozen until another $10 trillion is paid off. That might incentivize to hem to use our money more intelligently.


I dont think that would incentivize them much since they receive most of their earnings from lobbyists
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Maybe. Doesn't matter if there were some way to impose & enforce this mechanism.
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historian said:

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boognish_bear said:




Inflation will now be on the rise. Unemployment is on the rise too. Is there a recession on the horizon?

It was going to happen sooner or later.

We are a bankrupt country and on track for our interest on debt to double GDP a decade from now... too many years of boomers kicking the can down the road.

This all should have been dealt with in 2008.

Trump is trying to raise additional funds from tariffs to off-set tax cuts.

This is not Trump's fault.


It is partly Trump's fault...

8.4 Trillion is Trump's fault.

$3.6 trillion came from COVID relief laws & EOs
$2.5 trillion from tax cut laws,and
$2.3 trillion from spending increases

This cut, cut, cut only came about after Jan 6th and Biden lawsuits. DOGE is a great way to go after your enemies and have people cheer you.





https://www.crfb.org/blogs/how-much-did-president-trump-add-debt


Biden managed to add $8.4 trillion without a global pandemic

Don't forget the 10+ million illegals the fascists put in luxury hotels on the public dime.
The "debt is bigger because of tax cuts" blabber needs to just stop. Income tax revenues were up every year of Trump's first term with the tax cuts enacted. That means there must have been more economic activity during those cuts (maybe even *gasp* because of those cuts) that made up the difference in rates. Likewise, raising rates is a temporary increase in revue as business and consumer activity react to having less to spend on driving the economy. Even the article linked with these numbers is dumb enough to state,
"until the fiscal year 2023, when lower income tax collections driven by Trump's tax cuts pushed overall revenue lower."
The complaint that revenue was suddenly lower in 2023 due to a tax cut from 2017 is a bit asinine. Had tax rates been higher, economic activity would have slowed even more during the recession/not-a-recession of Biden's term. Revenues would more likely been about the same if not lower while the citizens would have been that much poorer.


US tax revenue by year:
FY 2023
$4.44 trillion
FY 2022
$4.90 trillion
FY 2021
$4.05 trillion
FY 2020
$3.42 trillion
FY 2019
$3.46 trillion
FY 2018
$3.33 trillion
FY 2017
$3.32 trillion
FY 2016
$3.27 trillion
FY 2015
$3.25 trillion
FY 2014
$3.02 trillion
FY 2013
$2.78 trillion
FY 2012
$2.45 trillion
FY 2011
$2.30 trillion
FY 2010
$2.16 trillion
FY 2009
$2.11 trillion


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boognish_bear said:


If would have been super if he had mentioned all the PRE-New Tarriff, tariffs that Canada had imposed
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