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So what?

Every generation has swindlers and con men, and not all of them go into politics, so the average Joe or Jane has to be careful.

A lot of stupid ideas predated the Boomers by a long time. Ever hear of Ponzi or the Dutch Bulb mania?

So when you point to this guy or that making ridiculous money while regular people struggle, Cornelius Vanderbilt says hi while DuPont and Rockefeller laughs at you.

Blaming everyone in a generation or praising everyone just because you think that time was great or horrible, only proves you have a limited perspective and can't be bothered to think very deep on matters.

There are important lessons here, but spite and arrogance blind a lot of people. Ignoring your options then blaming others for the outcome is simply a bad plan that goes to a bad end.


Don't be that guy.

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Some people need a bogeyman. And in this particular instance, this poster needs large groups of people to hate, blame and demonize for his lot in life - whether Jews, blacks, Boomers or GenX.

It's a coping mechanism for shortcomings and personal failings. It allows him to blame anyone but himself.

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The “Civil War” in the GOP between its donors & its voters is about one singular issue and that is whether the US will continue to support Israel unconditionally.

They will try to gaslight you into thinking it’s about literally everything & anything else. But that’s it.

— Nicholas J. Fuentes (@NickJFuentes) November 7, 2025

No matter what you think of Nick he is right about this. People are starting to notice that the party's main priority is Israel and its become tiresome to say the least.

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While there may be a significant number of Republicans who support Israel unconditionally, this is about far more than mere financial and military support. This is about allowing racism and white supremacy to take a hold in the Republican Party - two things Nick preaches. It is a sure fire way to kill your party, and ensure you never win another election.

And make no mistake, despite your ignorance of his views, and although those terms have been misused for years to attack conservatives, Nick is an actual racist and a white supremacist. You really need to educate yourself on some of the vile things he has said about Jews and other races. Listen to his ideas that only a handful of Jews were killed during the Holocaust. Listen to him refer to the Holocaust as merely "baking cookies." Listen to his scathing attacks on JD Vance for marrying an Indian wife. Listen to him make fun of Vance's mixed children. Listen to his praise for Joseph Stalin. Listen to his scathing attacks on Charlie Kirk. While if you listened only to Tucker's interview you would think the guy is a good dude with good ideas, the guy is a hate monger who also holds absolutely vile and despicable views as well.

Be careful not to fall under the spell of my enemy's enemy is my friend. Just because you may, like me, agree with him on a number of things doesn't mean we should be giving a white supremacist and racist a voice in the conservative movement. One can be against unconditional support of Israel and also against the hateful things Nick preaches to young people on a daily basis.

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Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts apologized for releasing a video last week defending Tucker Carlson for hosting white supremacist and avowed antisemite Nick Fuentes:

“I didn’t know much about this Fuentes guy. I still don’t, which underscores the mistake… The term… pic.twitter.com/XXpRoPQJDf

— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) November 6, 2025

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He was for free speech until he got the call and now made a hostage video. This is our country in a nutshell.

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Hilarious that you see this as a "free speech" issue. Let me dispel your ignorance - there is no govt actor here.

Criticizing a POS like Tucker for soft pedaling a POS is not a restriction on free speech rights.

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correct. it's moral argument. which can be painful when you make bad arguments.

I was on a private forum for a while that had a tag line on the landing page:
"Welcome here. Say anything you want, but don't come whining to the mods when you get kicked in the nuts."

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There's no good argument - moral or otherwise - for the normalization of Nick Fuentes.

I'd suggest actually watching the interview if you are under the impression that Tucker exposed his bad ideas.

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"normalization"

I don't think engaging in a conversation with objectionable views normalizes them per se. In fact, engagement is necessary to win the moral argument. E.G. Charlie Kirk. What normalizes objectionable views is agreeing with them. Calmly dissecting them like a gelid frog on a well-lit stage in front of millions is the best medicine of all.

Suppression is not a terribly reliable tool. Some organisms thrive in dark, damp places. Stick that gelid frog between the couch cushions and it'll cause all kinds of unpleasantness.

The best tool of all is policy which achieves common good. It sucks energy out of pathological ecosystems.

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I am curious which of Nick Fuentes' objectionable views you believe Tucker engaged with?

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All of them. He asked questions and let Fuentes talk. Now, millions of people are discussing the substance. Will Fuentes gain some supporters? Yeah. But who? I suspect mostly people who already think like him but just didn't know who he was. I doubt Fuentes converted masses of minds. More likely lost ground. Most people are going to reject odious little trolls like Fuentes. That's classical liberalism. Messy. Efforts to make it tidy run the risk of becoming another insult of intolerance.

Implicit in the argument for cancellation is that the assumption that the evil being cancelled is a mortal risk to good. I don't buy that argument at all. Good vs Evil is not a contest we should be terribly worried about. We should seek it early and more often, to win it via debate rather other means.

Firmly believe that repressive tolerance is intolerance.

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No, he didn't. You either clearly didn't listen to the interview or you're just lying. Tucker didn't discuss, much less challenge, a single objectionable view of Nick's, which is why you won't (and indeed, can't) name them.

In other words, he didn't talk about his horrible comments about Jews and the Holocaust, his racist comments about blacks, his awful comments about women, his awful comments about JD Vance's wife, his praise of Hitler, or his awful comments about Charlie Kirk. At one point I thought he might actually broach one of those subjects when Nick disclosed that Stalin was one of his heroes. Tucker promised to circle back on that idea, but then never did. He let is go. Not a SINGLE objectionable viewpoint was discussed or challenged.

I know you have a long history of overlooking and failing to acknowledge conservative's bad acts, and will defend the Republican who you think helps you get elected, but Nick isn't going to help us win any elections.

FTR, nobody here suggested cancelling Nick. Some of you keep using that term when nobody has suggested it. Not even Ben Shapiro suggested it. What they suggested is not to soft-pedal a racist and white supremacist and give him a bigger platform to spew his toxic ideas. And no, it didn't hurt Fuentes in the least. I read the other day that his audience this week has increased like three-fold.

It was a bad idea to interview this guy if you weren't going to ask him about some of his more incendiary and hateful ideas. Gives the Dems just another talking point in the trope that Republicans are racists, white supremacists.

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Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts apologized for releasing a video last week defending Tucker Carlson for hosting white supremacist and avowed antisemite Nick Fuentes:

“I didn’t know much about this Fuentes guy. I still don’t, which underscores the mistake… The term… pic.twitter.com/XXpRoPQJDf

— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) November 6, 2025

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He was for free speech until he got the call and now made a hostage video. This is our country in a nutshell.

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Hilarious that you see this as a "free speech" issue. Let me dispel your ignorance - there is no govt actor here.

Criticizing a POS like Tucker for soft pedaling a POS is not a restriction on free speech rights.

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correct. it's moral argument. which can be painful when you make bad arguments.

I was on a private forum for a while that had a tag line on the landing page:
"Welcome here. Say anything you want, but don't come whining to the mods when you get kicked in the nuts."

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There's no good argument - moral or otherwise - for the normalization of Nick Fuentes.

I'd suggest actually watching the interview if you are under the impression that Tucker exposed his bad ideas.

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"normalization"

I don't think engaging in a conversation with objectionable views normalizes them per se. In fact, engagement is necessary to win the moral argument. E.G. Charlie Kirk. What normalizes objectionable views is agreeing with them. Calmly dissecting them like a gelid frog on a well-lit stage in front of millions is the best medicine of all.

Suppression is not a terribly reliable tool. Some organisms thrive in dark, damp places. Stick that gelid frog between the couch cushions and it'll cause all kinds of unpleasantness.

The best tool of all is policy which achieves common good. It sucks energy out of pathological ecosystems.

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I am curious which of Nick Fuentes' objectionable views you believe Tucker engaged with?

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All of them. He asked questions and let Fuentes talk. Now, millions of people are discussing the substance. Will Fuentes gain some supporters? Yeah. But who? I suspect mostly people who already think like him but just didn't know who he was. I doubt Fuentes converted masses of minds. More likely lost ground. Most people are going to reject odious little trolls like Fuentes. That's classical liberalism. Messy. Efforts to make it tidy run the risk of becoming another insult of intolerance.

Implicit in the argument for cancellation is that the assumption that the evil being cancelled is a mortal risk to good. I don't buy that argument at all. Good vs Evil is not a contest we should be terribly worried about. We should seek it early and more often, to win it via debate rather other means.

Firmly believe that repressive tolerance is intolerance.

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No, he didn't. You either clearly didn't listen to the interview or you're just lying. Tucker didn't discuss, much less challenge, a single objectionable view of Nick's, which is why you won't (and indeed, can't) name them.
I addressed that. Do we expect an interviewer to debate the interviewee, or just put the interviewee's views out there? Each of those approaches has its pros/cons.

In other words, he didn't talk about his horrible comments about Jews and the Holocaust, his racist comments about blacks, his awful comments about women, his awful comments about JD Vance's wife, his praise of Hitler, or his awful comments about Charlie Kirk. At one point I thought he might actually broach one of those subjects when Nick disclosed that Stalin was one of his heroes. Tucker promised to circle back on that idea, but then never did. He let is go. Not a SINGLE objectionable viewpoint was discussed or challenged.
Again.....how effective was it when alphabet media treated Trump as evil incarnate and relentlessly challenged him, interrupting almost every sentence, fact checking him aggressively in every debate and every interview? (while not doing same to Democrats).

I know you have a long history of overlooking and failing to acknowledge conservative's bad acts, and will defend the Republican who you think helps you get elected, but Nick isn't going to help us win any elections.
Flatly incorrect. I have not defended a single one of Fuentes' views. I have categorically denounced them. His ideas must be defeated. I'm merely suggesting that neverFuentes-ism and cancellation tactics may not be the most effective strategy. The old adage about giving the monkey enough rope to let everyone see his ass might have some application here.

FTR, nobody here suggested cancelling Nick.
You are castigating Tucker for "promoting" him (by merely having a podcast conversation with him), and suggesting that the sole purpose of an interview is for the interviewer to debate the interviewee. Conservatives have become numb to that, given that such is what establishment media has done to them for decades (while giving Democrats the kid glove treatment)
Some of you keep using that term when nobody has suggested it. Not even Ben Shapiro suggested it. What they suggested is not to soft-pedal a racist and white supremacist and give him a bigger platform to spew his toxic ideas. And no, it didn't hurt Fuentes in the least. I read the other day that his audience this week has increased like three-fold.

It was a bad idea to interview this guy if you weren't going to ask him about some of his more incendiary and hateful ideas. Gives the Dems just another talking point in the trope that Republicans are racists, white supremacists.
Fair point. Dems will spin, though. In the absence of something to spin they will do a Sam and invent stuff out of whole cloth.

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Reasonable people can disagree on how to handle trolls like Fuentes.....

The fact that Fuentes is a factor at all is the most analytically significant part of all. He is a symptom of a far larger problem than how well or poorly he was interviewed. His popularity (which is more limited than his loudest critics would prefer to admit) is a sign that social contact is failing significant portions of the population. If we don't address that, all the cancellation/debate in the world will struggle to keep pace with the problem.

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I'm not Gen-X.

I was mocking you guys for having the easiest difficulty setting in human history.

Gen-X are the last generation to on average make more money than their parents before them.

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Actually that's not correct.

"To understand why Gen X did not earn more than Boomers, consider these points:

Economic conditions during Gen X's prime working years were less favorable than those of Boomers.
The rise of technology and globalization led to job displacement and wage stagnation for many Gen X workers.

Boomers benefited from a post-war economic boom, resulting in higher wages and job security.

Gen X faced increased student debt burdens, impacting their financial growth.

The housing market crash in 2008 disproportionately affected Gen X, limiting wealth accumulation.

Changes in corporate practices, such as outsourcing and reduced benefits, affected Gen X's earnings potential."

We faced the same trends (minus AI, and the same levels of mass immigration) that the Millenials and Gen Z are facing, it's just that those trends are on steriods now.

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I'm not a boomer, buy y'all really need to study history instead of twitter.

Go back and count all the recessions since 1945. Study the embargos; the demise of the auto and steel industries; the Carter years with gas lines and interest rates that you cannot possibly fathom. I could go on and on. Trust me, you haven't lived through half the **** boomers have.

And you act as if the 21st century issues did not affect boomers. It affected them more. Many lost their retirements due to bankruptcies and housing market crashes, the .com bubble, and more. And they did not have time to recover.

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Speaking on behalf of most millennials or Gen Z, what is retirement?

Most of those sad sacks will never know retirement unless they inherit wealth or MemeCoin3000 goes to the moon.

And it WAS Boomers who sold off many industries for easy money... see Mitt Romney and Bain Capital as a prime example but there was a modern "gold rush" built around white collar finance guys stabbing blue collar American workers in the back.

Romney's Bain Made Millions as South Carolina Steelmaker Went Bankrupt

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If you are a state of federal employee or work in the trades, oil and gas, aero, and a few other industries, you have a pension and a 401k (with match).

If you work for a company in other industries, you are highly likely to have a 401k with match.

If you are self-employed you have self-401k, IRAs, Roths, various insurance vehicles, etc.

A vast majority have social security. If you averaged 80k a year, you receive around $2800/month.

Many boomers had no pensions, 401k, or IRAs/Roths, etc. Many of those who had pensions lost them in bankruptcies and closures.

401ks did not become prevalent until the 1990s. Boomers had no Roths and other programs. Life insurance was different.

I have two kids in their 20s working out on their own. They are professionals but neither making 6-figures. They are ten years ahead of where I was in their 401(k)s and their ordinary savings.

There have been corporate barons for hundreds of years. And they used to be far worse. I'm no cheerleader for private equity and the like, but the save far more business than they kill.

63% of Gen Z and 69% of all millennials feel that financial success is much harder for them to achieve than it was for generations which proceeded them, per WSJ

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) November 7, 2025

The comments are not too kind

"Serving Israel and standing for America remains the greatest privilege of my life"

Edan Alexander delivers a powerful message from Israel after receiving the ‘Honor Award’ at the @foxnation Patriot Awards. pic.twitter.com/HnceJGq2kt

— Fox News (@FoxNews) November 7, 2025

Already way to much ink spilled on this radical, crazy ass Mexican dude.

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63% of Gen Z and 69% of all millennials feel that financial success is much harder for them to achieve than it was for generations which proceeded them, per WSJ

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) November 7, 2025

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I'd love to see how many Americans say "I have it so much easier than _____."

Heck, to many of these folks, working in the office 3 days a week, being denied a year of paid family leave, or being paid less than $25/hour in a part-time job are criminal . . . .

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So what?

Every generation has swindlers and con men, and not all of them go into politics, so the average Joe or Jane has to be careful.

A lot of stupid ideas predated the Boomers by a long time. Ever hear of Ponzi or the Dutch Bulb mania?

So when you point to this guy or that making ridiculous money while regular people struggle, Cornelius Vanderbilt says hi while DuPont and Rockefeller laughs at you.

Blaming everyone in a generation or praising everyone just because you think that time was great or horrible, only proves you have a limited perspective and can't be bothered to think very deep on matters.

There are important lessons here, but spite and arrogance blind a lot of people. Ignoring your options then blaming others for the outcome is simply a bad plan that goes to a bad end.


Don't be that guy.

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Some people need a bogeyman. And in this particular instance, this poster needs large groups of people to hate, blame and demonize for his lot in life - whether Jews, blacks, Boomers or GenX.

It's a coping mechanism for shortcomings and personal failings. It allows him to blame anyone but himself.

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And it's even more prevalent on the modern Left

It's the rich…it's men…it's White people

I think he is right here…these types on both the far left and far right are driven by young people who don't see a economic future for themselves in the USA

Alex Karp, CEO of Palantir, struggles to answer a question about Nick Fuentes and his supporters becoming the new wing of the Republican Party.

He says Fuentes’ movement is full of people who are not sensible and will not “participate in this society economically.”

Karp adds… pic.twitter.com/wXfAAWCZqK

— Shadow of Ezra (@ShadowofEzra) November 8, 2025

Absolutely fantastics, and horrifyingly accurate. https://t.co/DRt2iLuy1U

— Rich Baris The People's Pundit (@Peoples_Pundit) November 8, 2025

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I think he is right here…these types on both the far left and far right are driven by young people who don't see a economic future for themselves in the USA

Alex Karp, CEO of Palantir, struggles to answer a question about Nick Fuentes and his supporters becoming the new wing of the Republican Party.

He says Fuentes’ movement is full of people who are not sensible and will not “participate in this society economically.”

Karp adds… pic.twitter.com/wXfAAWCZqK

— Shadow of Ezra (@ShadowofEzra) November 8, 2025

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He's actually wrong and his company has nepotistic policies that favor hiring Jews. Nick calls out this type of stuff and he is actually right in this regard. If you are getting govt contracts but you mainly only hire your people thats not exactly fair

https://www.barrons.com/articles/palantir-jobs-students-anti-semitism-bf4cd172?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=AWEtsqeT92Ok6yVkvexuWidQROFgMYIYt94JcpIRIfarzqJWax3KOzl6v5gir-x9b-k%3D&gaa_ts=690fd85e&gaa_sig=1zuMwBfhkXM5iwFB1yAIa4sOXLxGgiMt7WuxiMxGj6NwaCRhDzLRS46Lp7FOAFvWHh7dneZZzf31MO86ozpkjw%3D%3D

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So what?

Every generation has swindlers and con men, and not all of them go into politics, so the average Joe or Jane has to be careful.

A lot of stupid ideas predated the Boomers by a long time. Ever hear of Ponzi or the Dutch Bulb mania?

So when you point to this guy or that making ridiculous money while regular people struggle, Cornelius Vanderbilt says hi while DuPont and Rockefeller laughs at you.

Blaming everyone in a generation or praising everyone just because you think that time was great or horrible, only proves you have a limited perspective and can't be bothered to think very deep on matters.

There are important lessons here, but spite and arrogance blind a lot of people. Ignoring your options then blaming others for the outcome is simply a bad plan that goes to a bad end.


Don't be that guy.

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Some people need a bogeyman. And in this particular instance, this poster needs large groups of people to hate, blame and demonize for his lot in life - whether Jews, blacks, Boomers or GenX.

It's a coping mechanism for shortcomings and personal failings. It allows him to blame anyone but himself.

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And it's even more prevalent on the modern Left

It's the rich…it's men…it's White people

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Now a person who once called Adolf Hitler "awesome" has more than 1 million followers on Elon Musk's X. He recently recorded a cordial interview with Tucker
Carlson that more than 5 million people have watched.

The resurgence of the 27-year-old Fuentes, who has argued that immigrants and "organized Jewry" are conspiring to extinguish the white race, has set off bitter infighting among conservative influencers over whether he should be tolerated or denounced.

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The resurgence of the 27-year-old Fuentes, who has argued that immigrants and "organized Jewry" are conspiring to extinguish the white race, has set off bitter infighting among conservative influencers over whether he should be tolerated or denounced.

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Since WW2 White Christians have been declining in population. Two world wars were a major factor. Then you have the jews from the Frankfurt school coming to America to spread marxism which brought us feminism, abortion, fewer marriages, the erosion of the two parent family, porn, nihillism, lgbtism and basically the decline of America. I read the biography of Andrew Bretibart (who was Jewsish btw) and he even said as much.

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The resurgence of the 27-year-old Fuentes, who has argued that immigrants and "organized Jewry" are conspiring to extinguish the white race, has set off bitter infighting among conservative influencers over whether he should be tolerated or denounced.

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Since WW2 White Christians have been declining in population. Two world wars were a major factor. Then you have the jews from the Frankfurt school coming to America to spread marxism which brought us feminism, abortion, fewer marriages, the erosion of the two parent family, porn, nihillism, lgbtism and basically the decline of America. I read the biography of Andrew Bretibart (who was Jewsish btw) and he even said as much.

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Hard to believe Republicans lost elections this week

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The resurgence of the 27-year-old Fuentes, who has argued that immigrants and "organized Jewry" are conspiring to extinguish the white race, has set off bitter infighting among conservative influencers over whether he should be tolerated or denounced.

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Since WW2 White Christians have been declining in population. Two world wars were a major factor. Then you have the jews from the Frankfurt school coming to America to spread marxism which brought us feminism, abortion, fewer marriages, the erosion of the two parent family, porn, nihillism, lgbtism and basically the decline of America. I read the biography of Andrew Bretibart (who was Jewsish btw) and he even said as much.

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Hard to believe Republicans lost elections this wIeek

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Not really. They lost in deep blue states which are not repub strong holds. Did the dems actually pull off any surprises? Not to my knowledge. I was in Richmond in Sept and Spears was very popular in the counties around the city it was obvious that with Nova and the blue city of Richmond that Spanberger was the favorite.

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The resurgence of the 27-year-old Fuentes, who has argued that immigrants and "organized Jewry" are conspiring to extinguish the white race, has set off bitter infighting among conservative influencers over whether he should be tolerated or denounced.

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Since WW2 White Christians have been declining in population. Two world wars were a major factor. Then you have the jews from the Frankfurt school coming to America to spread marxism which brought us feminism, abortion, fewer marriages, the erosion of the two parent family, porn, nihillism, lgbtism and basically the decline of America. I read the biography of Andrew Bretibart (who was Jewsish btw) and he even said as much.

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Not really. They lost in deep blue states which are not repub strong holds. Did the dems actually pull off any surprises? Not to my knowledge. I was in Richmond in Sept and Spears was very popular in the counties around the city it was obvious that with Nova and the blue city of Richmond that Spanberger was the favorite.

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Independents and Hispanics swung back to Democrats

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The resurgence of the 27-year-old Fuentes, who has argued that immigrants and "organized Jewry" are conspiring to extinguish the white race, has set off bitter infighting among conservative influencers over whether he should be tolerated or denounced.

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Since WW2 White Christians have been declining in population. Two world wars were a major factor. Then you have the jews from the Frankfurt school coming to America to spread marxism which brought us feminism, abortion, fewer marriages, the erosion of the two parent family, porn, nihillism, lgbtism and basically the decline of America. I read the biography of Andrew Bretibart (who was Jewsish btw) and he even said as much.

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Hard to believe Republicans lost elections this week

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I know, it's incredible that blue states which Trump did not win last year somehow stayed blue last week!

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So who is responsible then, for this trend to marginalize white people?

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Since WW2 White Christians have been declining in population. Two world wars were a major factor. Then you have the jews from the Frankfurt school coming to America to spread marxism which brought us feminism, abortion, fewer marriages, the erosion of the two parent family, porn, nihillism, lgbtism and basically the decline of America. I read the biography of Andrew Bretibart (who was Jewsish btw) and he even said as much.

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Hard to believe Republicans lost elections this wIeek

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Not really. They lost in deep blue states which are not repub strong holds. Did the dems actually pull off any surprises? Not to my knowledge. I was in Richmond in Sept and Spears was very popular in the counties around the city it was obvious that with Nova and the blue city of Richmond that Spanberger was the favorite.

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I guess we will have to see how it shakes outl Gas is down significantly as are eggs but beef is up but thats not exactly trumps fault. Hispanics drive chevy trucks and they like miller lite so keep the gas low and it will hopefully be ok.

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The answer to that is anti semitic and goes back like 2000 years to the Romans. They havent forgotten and they hate the caesars, the tsars, the vatican, the west etc.

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The resurgence of the 27-year-old Fuentes, who has argued that immigrants and "organized Jewry" are conspiring to extinguish the white race, has set off bitter infighting among conservative influencers over whether he should be tolerated or denounced.

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Since WW2 White Christians have been declining in population. Two world wars were a major factor. Then you have the jews from the Frankfurt school coming to America to spread marxism which brought us feminism, abortion, fewer marriages, the erosion of the two parent family, porn, nihillism, lgbtism and basically the decline of America. I read the biography of Andrew Bretibart (who was Jewsish btw) and he even said as much.

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Hard to believe Republicans lost elections this wIeek

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Not really. They lost in deep blue states which are not repub strong holds. Did the dems actually pull off any surprises? Not to my knowledge. I was in Richmond in Sept and Spears was very popular in the counties around the city it was obvious that with Nova and the blue city of Richmond that Spanberger was the favorite.

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I guess we will have to see how it shakes outl Gas is down significantly as are eggs but beef is up but thats not exactly trumps fault. Hispanics drive chevy trucks and they like miller lite so keep the gas low and it will hopefully be ok.

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If Tuesday's results are any gauge, Republicans will need all the help they can get going into 2026. "If it is a harbinger of what the electorate will look like in next year's midterms, it's not too late for the GOP to panic," Noah Rothman writes.

Read @Seantfischer’s conversation with Peter Thiel: https://t.co/YinGo10bxl

— The Free Press (@TheFP) November 7, 2025

NEW - Israel dumps hundreds of millions into U.S. influence efforts, targeting evangelicals in churches with the "largest U.S. geofencing operation" in history and influencing Google search and AI responses from ChatGPT and Claude.https://t.co/pCN8kD77dk

— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) November 7, 2025

Yes, Haaretz reports confirm Israel's government has allocated millions via contracts—like $6M to Clock Tower X for content targeting youth and evangelicals, plus a proposed $3M geofencing campaign hitting 8M churchgoers in key states—for digital PR and narrative shaping. This…

— Grok (@grok) November 7, 2025

boognish_bear said:

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NEW - Israel dumps hundreds of millions into U.S. influence efforts, targeting evangelicals in churches with the "largest U.S. geofencing operation" in history and influencing Google search and AI responses from ChatGPT and Claude.https://t.co/pCN8kD77dk

— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) November 7, 2025

Yes, Haaretz reports confirm Israel's government has allocated millions via contracts—like $6M to Clock Tower X for content targeting youth and evangelicals, plus a proposed $3M geofencing campaign hitting 8M churchgoers in key states—for digital PR and narrative shaping. This…

— Grok (@grok) November 7, 2025

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This is what the $4 billion per year in American tax dollars ACTUALLY gets used for.

Propgaganda.

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A generation addicted to the dopamine fixes via social media algorithms who seek belonging in echo chamber feedback loops..

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Everyone and every generation is now in their own bubble of social media echo chamber and dopamine fixing algorithms.

The boomers are no different.

Go listen to Jon Stewart or Professor Scott Galloway.

I will say at least Stewart and Galloway offer a solution to what is now a universal problem (every generation and political or ethnic group is doing the same thing)

Go out there and get into the bubble/or algorithm loop of the people who are taking about instead of attacking them. Go actually take the time to talk to them and engage with them.

You break the loop by creating a new one…not just complaining about its existence

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TPUSA wanted to host a debate between Tucker and Mark Levin in December.

See Mark Levin's response:

Mark Levin reads private text messages with Tucker Carlson revealing that TPUSA wanted the two men to debate.

Carlson said he was open to debate but Levin refused because he didn’t want to “platform” Carlson.

Levin then bragged about his “rational” response where he called… pic.twitter.com/xpIzfK2HzY

— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) November 8, 2025

Mark Levin is a perfect example of Jewish nepotism. He debates people for a living. He has been paid hundreds of millions of dollars as a talk show personality and rhetorician... but he is too cowardly and incompetent to debate Tucker face-to-face... how does someone like Mark Levin have a job in radio and television as a "thought leader"?

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The_barBEARian said:

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I'm not Gen-X.

I was mocking you guys for having the easiest difficulty setting in human history.

Gen-X are the last generation to on average make more money than their parents before them.

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Actually that's not correct.

"To understand why Gen X did not earn more than Boomers, consider these points:

Economic conditions during Gen X's prime working years were less favorable than those of Boomers.
The rise of technology and globalization led to job displacement and wage stagnation for many Gen X workers.

Boomers benefited from a post-war economic boom, resulting in higher wages and job security.

Gen X faced increased student debt burdens, impacting their financial growth.

The housing market crash in 2008 disproportionately affected Gen X, limiting wealth accumulation.

Changes in corporate practices, such as outsourcing and reduced benefits, affected Gen X's earnings potential."

We faced the same trends (minus AI, and the same levels of mass immigration) that the Millenials and Gen Z are facing, it's just that those trends are on steriods now.

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I'm not a boomer, buy y'all really need to study history instead of twitter.

Go back and count all the recessions since 1945. Study the embargos; the demise of the auto and steel industries; the Carter years with gas lines and interest rates that you cannot possibly fathom. I could go on and on. Trust me, you haven't lived through half the **** boomers have.

And you act as if the 21st century issues did not affect boomers. It affected them more. Many lost their retirements due to bankruptcies and housing market crashes, the .com bubble, and more. And they did not have time to recover.

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Speaking on behalf of most millennials or Gen Z, what is retirement?

Most of those sad sacks will never know retirement unless they inherit wealth or MemeCoin3000 goes to the moon.

And it WAS Boomers who sold off many industries for easy money... see Mitt Romney and Bain Capital as a prime example but there was a modern "gold rush" built around white collar finance guys stabbing blue collar American workers in the back.

Romney's Bain Made Millions as South Carolina Steelmaker Went Bankrupt

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If you are a state of federal employee or work in the trades, oil and gas, aero, and a few other industries, you have a pension and a 401k (with match).

If you work for a company in other industries, you are highly likely to have a 401k with match.

If you are self-employed you have self-401k, IRAs, Roths, various insurance vehicles, etc.

A vast majority have social security. If you averaged 80k a year, you receive around $2800/month.

Many boomers had no pensions, 401k, or IRAs/Roths, etc. Many of those who had pensions lost them in bankruptcies and closures.

401ks did not become prevalent until the 1990s. Boomers had no Roths and other programs. Life insurance was different.

I have two kids in their 20s working out on their own. They are professionals but neither making 6-figures. They are ten years ahead of where I was in their 401(k)s and their ordinary savings.

There have been corporate barons for hundreds of years. And they used to be far worse. I'm no cheerleader for private equity and the like, but the save far more business than they kill.

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exactly. It's not like Boomers invented mergers & acquisitions and leveraged buyouts and spin-offs and IPOs and other clever ways to put things together or pull them apart to make money. Boomers didn't create the IMF or the World Bank or globalism or Wall Street or etc.......

The whole generational systemic oppression argument is just goofy.

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Redbrickbear said:

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A generation addicted to the dopamine fixes via social media algorithms who seek belonging in echo chamber feedback loops..

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Everyone and every generation is now in their own bubble of social media echo chamber and dopamine fixing algorithms.

The boomers are no different.

Go listen to Jon Stewart or Professor Scott Galloway.

I will say at least Stewart and Galloway offer a solution to what is now a universal problem (every generation and political or ethnic group is doing the same thing)

Go out there and get into the bubble/or algorithm loop of the people who are taking about instead of attacking them. Go actually take the time to talk to them and engage with them.

You break the loop by creating a new one…not just complaining about its existence

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TPUSA wanted to host a debate between Tucker and Mark Levin in December.

See Mark Levin's response:

Mark Levin reads private text messages with Tucker Carlson revealing that TPUSA wanted the two men to debate.

Carlson said he was open to debate but Levin refused because he didn’t want to “platform” Carlson.

Levin then bragged about his “rational” response where he called… pic.twitter.com/xpIzfK2HzY

— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) November 8, 2025

Mark Levin is a perfect example of Jewish nepotism. He debates people for a living. He has been paid hundreds of millions of dollars as a talk show personality and rhetorician... but he is too cowardly and incompetent to debate Tucker face-to-face... how does someone like Mark Levin have a job in radio and television as a "thought leader"?

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Levin is brilliant, articulate, and pugnacious (usually moreso than I care for), an important voice in the conservative movement. His voice is an important one, as is Tucker's. Classical liberalism would benefit immensely from robust debate between two people like that. Tucker, to his credit, has sought to engage all across the spectrum. Levin has not, and his refusal to debate Tucker will not reflect well on him or his positions.

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Absolutely fantastics, and horrifyingly accurate. https://t.co/DRt2iLuy1U

— Rich Baris The People's Pundit (@Peoples_Pundit) November 8, 2025

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this clip illustrates my point that the anti-Israel sentiment on the right is driven primarily by frustration with budget deficits rather than any purposeful anti-semitism. The critics see isolationism as a rational way to slash deficits. They will define away nearly all threats to justify pulling back from the world (to cut or reallocate budgets). To the mind which has arrived at that place, Israel aid as an avatar for all that is wrong with federal spending on foreign aid and larger foreign policy agendas.

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The resurgence of the 27-year-old Fuentes, who has argued that immigrants and "organized Jewry" are conspiring to extinguish the white race, has set off bitter infighting among conservative influencers over whether he should be tolerated or denounced.

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The debate on his views will happen. The only question is who participates in it. The outcome is not in doubt, so we should get it over with. Delaying and hoping to win it by cancelling the other side merely makes it look like Republicans have the same kind of intolerance problem that Democrats do. Nothing could be further from the truth. I am not aware of a single elected GOP spouting intolerant identitarianism as a business model. Same cannot be said about Democrats, for whom identitarianism is the beating heart, lungs, legs & fist of their Party. Every one of them accepts identitarian worldview. Not one will make a peep to oppose it. And they are elected to offices all up & down the ballot, from city councils to the US Congress. Identitarian voices are leading the Democrat Party, fer crissakes.

Put Fuentes up on the stage and let any of a couple dozen bright Republican minds skewer him like swiss cheese. We've got to get back to fighting the real problem - leftist identitarianism in the halls of Congress.

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The resurgence of the 27-year-old Fuentes, who has argued that immigrants and "organized Jewry" are conspiring to extinguish the white race, has set off bitter infighting among conservative influencers over whether he should be tolerated or denounced.

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So who is responsible then, for this trend to marginalize white people?

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The answer to that is anti semitic and goes back like 2000 years to the Romans. They havent forgotten and they hate the caesars, the tsars, the vatican, the west etc.

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the "trend to marginalize white people" is a well developed political ideology of the American left, who has chosen to convert Marxist dialectics on class into marxist dialectics on race, sex, and gender. It originated in social science departments in the 1970s and posed as sincere philosophy, thereby affording explicitly political ideology the protection of tenure. From there, the ideas spread throughout the left so thoroughly that they now inform worldview of the Democrat party from top to bottom. They use words like "systemic oppression" and "white supremacy" and "patriarchy" etc......all aimed at demonizing white men and particularly masculinity.

Marxism failed in no small part because class is mutable. But race and sex are entirely immutable, which makes it a lot harder to break up political coalitions. Trump, for all his flaws, has been very effective at opposing leftist identitarianism, ridiculing it, relentlessly provoking it to excessive overreaction, tapping into growing popular frustration with ever more unreasonable political correctness. And, predictably, his success has freed up not just ordinary people to speak their minds, but everybody, even those with fundamentally bad ideas.

Bad ideas are always there. We should never fear confronting them with better ideas. Most of all, we should never allow the opponents of liberty (the left) to saddle us with an identitarian problem. We do not have one. Democrats do.

muddybrazos said:

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Osodecentx said:

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The resurgence of the 27-year-old Fuentes, who has argued that immigrants and "organized Jewry" are conspiring to extinguish the white race, has set off bitter infighting among conservative influencers over whether he should be tolerated or denounced.

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Since WW2 White Christians have been declining in population. Two world wars were a major factor. Then you have the jews from the Frankfurt school coming to America to spread marxism which brought us feminism, abortion, fewer marriages, the erosion of the two parent family, porn, nihillism, lgbtism and basically the decline of America. I read the biography of Andrew Bretibart (who was Jewsish btw) and he even said as much.

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Of course you blame the Jews for all those things. Tell me, do white people of German ancestry bear responsibility for Nazism, since it came about because of white Germans? How about communism. Karl Marx was a white man of German descent. Do we have shared responsibility for communism because Marx was white?

When you try to blame an entire race or ethnicity for the actions of a few who may have contributed to bad things, you just might be racist.

The_barBEARian said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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A generation addicted to the dopamine fixes via social media algorithms who seek belonging in echo chamber feedback loops..

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Everyone and every generation is now in their own bubble of social media echo chamber and dopamine fixing algorithms.

The boomers are no different.

Go listen to Jon Stewart or Professor Scott Galloway.

I will say at least Stewart and Galloway offer a solution to what is now a universal problem (every generation and political or ethnic group is doing the same thing)

Go out there and get into the bubble/or algorithm loop of the people who are taking about instead of attacking them. Go actually take the time to talk to them and engage with them.

You break the loop by creating a new one…not just complaining about its existence

---

TPUSA wanted to host a debate between Tucker and Mark Levin in December.

See Mark Levin's response:

Mark Levin reads private text messages with Tucker Carlson revealing that TPUSA wanted the two men to debate.

Carlson said he was open to debate but Levin refused because he didn’t want to “platform” Carlson.

Levin then bragged about his “rational” response where he called… pic.twitter.com/xpIzfK2HzY

— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) November 8, 2025

Mark Levin is a perfect example of Jewish nepotism. He debates people for a living. He has been paid hundreds of millions of dollars as a talk show personality and rhetorician... but he is too cowardly and incompetent to debate Tucker face-to-face... how does someone like Mark Levin have a job in radio and television as a "thought leader"?

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I saw a tweet that I cannot find. It said something like: Jews are .2% (yes, that is .2, not 2) of the world's population and over half live in an area the size of Maricopa County (AZ). An anti-Jew/anti-Israel Muslim was just voted Mayor of the city with the world's largest Jewish population outside Israel. Yet Israel somehow controls the world and is responsible for its problems!