Tucker's attempt to normalize Nick Fuentes

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Why should any reasonable person do what this unelected bigot wants?
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boognish_bear said:



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The_barBEARian said:

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Who is a bigger ******? You or Nick Fuentes? Either answer is correct.
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Robert Wilson said:

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boognish_bear said:






Who is a bigger ******? You or Nick Fuentes? Either answer is correct.

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boognish_bear said:




Whatever one thinks about Fuentes in general, these are not unreasonable requests. If a GOP majority is going to be complicit in covering up for pedophiles and human traffickers, enter into a foreign conflict guaranteed to be messier than Iraq with the potential to trigger WW3, and won't deport illegals there's not much point to having one.
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boognish_bear said:



it's really, really easy to stay on message when the message conforms to reality, which in this case is that Israel's interests and ours are usually closely aligned, and that Israel as a policy proxy is a tremendous bang for the buck.
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whiterock said:

boognish_bear said:



it's really, really easy to stay on message when the message conforms to reality, which in this case is that Israel's interests and ours are usually closely aligned, and that Israel as a policy proxy is a tremendous bang for the buck.

It's not a question of cooperating with other nations when interests align.

It's a question of politicians who are supposed to represent the interests of American citizens giving a foreign nation billions of dollars so they can collect a commission and acting against the interests of those citizens.
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Realitybites said:

whiterock said:

boognish_bear said:



it's really, really easy to stay on message when the message conforms to reality, which in this case is that Israel's interests and ours are usually closely aligned, and that Israel as a policy proxy is a tremendous bang for the buck.

It's not a question of cooperating with other nations when interests align.

It's a question of politicians who are supposed to represent the interests of American citizens giving a foreign nation billions of dollars so they can collect a commission and acting against the interests of those citizens.

false dilemma. the interests of American citizens and Israeli citizens are closely aligned on a broad number of foreign policy matters, and Israel repeatedly puts its sons & daughters in harm's way in pursuit of those policy interests (which of course means American sons & daughters don't have to).

It's quite difficult to find a foreign policy investment which has generated as much positive impact as our aid to Israel. One must be quite the isolationist not to see the benefits of it.

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whiterock said:

Realitybites said:

whiterock said:

boognish_bear said:



it's really, really easy to stay on message when the message conforms to reality, which in this case is that Israel's interests and ours are usually closely aligned, and that Israel as a policy proxy is a tremendous bang for the buck.

It's not a question of cooperating with other nations when interests align.

It's a question of politicians who are supposed to represent the interests of American citizens giving a foreign nation billions of dollars so they can collect a commission and acting against the interests of those citizens.

false dilemma. the interests of American citizens and Israeli citizens are closely aligned on a broad number of foreign policy matters, and Israel repeatedly puts its sons & daughters in harm's way in pursuit of those policy interests (which of course means American sons & daughters don't have to).

It's quite difficult to find a foreign policy investment which has generated as much positive impact as our aid to Israel. One must be quite the isolationist not to see the benefits of it.




Nobody under 40 believes this propaganda.

I cant think of a single way my life has improved bcs Boomers spent my entire life worshipping Israel and blowing up our national debt to historic, unrecoverable levels.

If Israel is the bang for our buck you say they are, now is the time for a ROI... this country needs the money!
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whiterock said:

Realitybites said:

whiterock said:

boognish_bear said:



it's really, really easy to stay on message when the message conforms to reality, which in this case is that Israel's interests and ours are usually closely aligned, and that Israel as a policy proxy is a tremendous bang for the buck.

It's not a question of cooperating with other nations when interests align.

It's a question of politicians who are supposed to represent the interests of American citizens giving a foreign nation billions of dollars so they can collect a commission and acting against the interests of those citizens.

false dilemma. the interests of American citizens and Israeli citizens are closely aligned on a broad number of foreign policy matters, and Israel repeatedly puts its sons & daughters in harm's way in pursuit of those policy interests (which of course means American sons & daughters don't have to).

It's quite difficult to find a foreign policy investment which has generated as much positive impact as our aid to Israel. One must be quite the isolationist not to see the benefits of it.



It is one thing to state this, it's quite another to actually come up with a list of concrete benefits this "special relationship" has for American citizens. I mean, the Israeli government sold our nuclear secrets to the USSR during the cold war. That's about as big a national security betrayal as you can have.

Israel is MIGA. I don't blame them for that. Every country should be looking out for its interests first, including ours.
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Realitybites said:

whiterock said:

Realitybites said:

whiterock said:

boognish_bear said:



it's really, really easy to stay on message when the message conforms to reality, which in this case is that Israel's interests and ours are usually closely aligned, and that Israel as a policy proxy is a tremendous bang for the buck.

It's not a question of cooperating with other nations when interests align.

It's a question of politicians who are supposed to represent the interests of American citizens giving a foreign nation billions of dollars so they can collect a commission and acting against the interests of those citizens.

false dilemma. the interests of American citizens and Israeli citizens are closely aligned on a broad number of foreign policy matters, and Israel repeatedly puts its sons & daughters in harm's way in pursuit of those policy interests (which of course means American sons & daughters don't have to).

It's quite difficult to find a foreign policy investment which has generated as much positive impact as our aid to Israel. One must be quite the isolationist not to see the benefits of it.



It is one thing to state this, it's quite another to actually come up with a list of concrete benefits this "special relationship" has for American citizens. I mean, the Israeli government sold our nuclear secrets to the USSR during the cold war. That's about as big a national security betrayal as you can have.

Israel is MIGA. I don't blame them for that. Every country should be looking out for its interests first, including ours.


Exactly. Not only is Israel a parasite that offers no benefit... it is one of the most malignant nations in existence. You dont get kicked out of 109 countries if you a decent, respectful, morally upstanding people.


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Realitybites said:

boognish_bear said:




Whatever one thinks about Fuentes in general, these are not unreasonable requests. If a GOP majority is going to be complicit in covering up for pedophiles and human traffickers, enter into a foreign conflict guaranteed to be messier than Iraq with the potential to trigger WW3, and won't deport illegals there's not much point to having one.

It's been a really bad look from the beginning to run on the platform you're going to release the Epstein files, and then do an about face when you learn your name is all over them.

I suspect this is all Trump, and he didn't want his name besmirched. Doesn't excuse his actions, of course, but I think a lot of those in his admin have been running cover for him.
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Cat got your tongue?
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whiterock said:

boognish_bear said:



it's really, really easy to stay on message when the message conforms to reality, which in this case is that Israel's interests and ours are usually closely aligned, and that Israel as a policy proxy is a tremendous bang for the buck.


Yep
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Lmao. Israel and US interests are not closely aligned. Israel is a Jewish state that was founded to be a safe haven for Jewish immigrants, their foreign policy and general interests are heavily influenced by their Jewish religion.

For better or worse, the US is a secular democracy. Our foreign policy is not driven by any religion. Our foreign policy should be aligned with the Monroe Doctrine, not some random middle eastern country the size of New Jersey
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Understanding foreign policy is in some part based on geography. You need to understand choke points and sea lanes, historic trade routes used to ship freight, and the history of wars fought for resources.

One vital reason both Britain and the US wanted a Jewish state of Israel, was to have a western-friendly state in the Middle East. Sometimes Jordan has served that role post-1991, and the Saudis will make deals with anyone if the money is right.

Israel will never be the Middle East version of Kansas. But saying Israel is anti-American demonstrates not just bigotry but historical ignorance.
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Oldbear83 said:

Understanding foreign policy is in some part based on geography. You need to understand choke points and sea lanes, historic trade routes used to ship freight, and the history of wars fought for resources.

One vital reason both Britain and the US wanted a Jewish state of Israel, was to have a western-friendly state in the Middle East. Sometimes Jordan has served that role post-1991, and the Saudis will make deals with anyone if the money is right.

Israel will never be the Middle East version of Kansas. But saying Israel is anti-American demonstrates not just bigotry but historical ignorance.


Must be an tragic coincidence that the west was never more strong and healthy than when it had no "western-friendly" states in the middle east.
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The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

Understanding foreign policy is in some part based on geography. You need to understand choke points and sea lanes, historic trade routes used to ship freight, and the history of wars fought for resources.

One vital reason both Britain and the US wanted a Jewish state of Israel, was to have a western-friendly state in the Middle East. Sometimes Jordan has served that role post-1991, and the Saudis will make deals with anyone if the money is right.

Israel will never be the Middle East version of Kansas. But saying Israel is anti-American demonstrates not just bigotry but historical ignorance.


Must be an tragic coincidence that the west was never more strong and healthy than when it had no "western-friendly" states in the middle east.

You proved only that you slept through History, barB
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Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

Understanding foreign policy is in some part based on geography. You need to understand choke points and sea lanes, historic trade routes used to ship freight, and the history of wars fought for resources.

One vital reason both Britain and the US wanted a Jewish state of Israel, was to have a western-friendly state in the Middle East. Sometimes Jordan has served that role post-1991, and the Saudis will make deals with anyone if the money is right.

Israel will never be the Middle East version of Kansas. But saying Israel is anti-American demonstrates not just bigotry but historical ignorance.


Must be an tragic coincidence that the west was never more strong and healthy than when it had no "western-friendly" states in the middle east.

You proved only that you slept through History, barB

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So instead of cutting taxes... they are sending our surplus tax dollars to Israel.

I'm about ready to start voting Democrat just to watch the whole thing burn to the ground!

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BaylorFTW said:

1. Should he only interview people he agrees with?
2. Does Nick not ask some reasonable questions about the US's involvement with the nation of Israel?
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Do we no longer accept the democratic marketplace of ideas system and opt for a totalitarian system where only certain views are allowed to be expressed and others are suppressed? And if so, who gets to decide which views rightthink and which are beyond the pale?



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Do we no longer accept the democratic marketplace of ideas system and opt for a totalitarian system where only certain views are allowed to be expressed and others are suppressed? And if so, who gets to decide which views rightthink and which are beyond the pale?


What about Brendon Carr censoring TV hosts and TV networks that speak out against the Trump adminsitration or run programing that the Trump admistratio doesn't like?
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The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

Understanding foreign policy is in some part based on geography. You need to understand choke points and sea lanes, historic trade routes used to ship freight, and the history of wars fought for resources.

One vital reason both Britain and the US wanted a Jewish state of Israel, was to have a western-friendly state in the Middle East. Sometimes Jordan has served that role post-1991, and the Saudis will make deals with anyone if the money is right.

Israel will never be the Middle East version of Kansas. But saying Israel is anti-American demonstrates not just bigotry but historical ignorance.


Must be an tragic coincidence that the west was never more strong and healthy than when it had no "western-friendly" states in the middle east.

When was that - when you believe the US was stronger? Wasn't WWI or II. German technology was superior to ours (some might say, far superior). We overwhelmed them with numbers (and lots of casualties). Wasn't Korea, when we got our assess kicked by the Chinese, and proceed to what was essentially a stalemate. Wasn't Vietnam, obviously.

I am not sure it's even arguable that we've ever been as powerful or dominant a military force as we are right now.
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Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

Understanding foreign policy is in some part based on geography. You need to understand choke points and sea lanes, historic trade routes used to ship freight, and the history of wars fought for resources.

One vital reason both Britain and the US wanted a Jewish state of Israel, was to have a western-friendly state in the Middle East. Sometimes Jordan has served that role post-1991, and the Saudis will make deals with anyone if the money is right.

Israel will never be the Middle East version of Kansas. But saying Israel is anti-American demonstrates not just bigotry but historical ignorance.


Must be an tragic coincidence that the west was never more strong and healthy than when it had no "western-friendly" states in the middle east.

When was that - when you believe the US was stronger? Wasn't WWI or II. German technology was superior to ours (some might say, far superior). We overwhelmed them with numbers (and lots of casualties). Wasn't Korea, when we got our assess kicked by the Chinese, and proceed to what was essentially a stalemate. Wasn't Vietnam, obviously.

I am not sure it's even arguable that we've ever been as powerful or dominant a military force as we are right now.


I said "the west" not the United States of America.

The west is colloquially known as Europe and the Anglosphere.

At one time the west had colonized the entire planet.

We werent slaves to a bunch of sand people - whether they be arabs or jews.
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Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

Understanding foreign policy is in some part based on geography. You need to understand choke points and sea lanes, historic trade routes used to ship freight, and the history of wars fought for resources.

One vital reason both Britain and the US wanted a Jewish state of Israel, was to have a western-friendly state in the Middle East. Sometimes Jordan has served that role post-1991, and the Saudis will make deals with anyone if the money is right.

Israel will never be the Middle East version of Kansas. But saying Israel is anti-American demonstrates not just bigotry but historical ignorance.


Must be an tragic coincidence that the west was never more strong and healthy than when it had no "western-friendly" states in the middle east.

When was that - when you believe the US was stronger? Wasn't WWI or II. German technology was superior to ours (some might say, far superior). We overwhelmed them with numbers (and lots of casualties). Wasn't Korea, when we got our assess kicked by the Chinese, and proceed to what was essentially a stalemate. Wasn't Vietnam, obviously.

I am not sure it's even arguable that we've ever been as powerful or dominant a military force as we are right now.


Our military doesnt work for the American tax payer

If we did a nation wide referendum on whether our military should attack Iran what do you think the result would be?

It would be a resounding "no!"....

Trump was elected bcs he promised no new wars... Republicans are going to get smashed if he allows Israel to control our military.
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This woman is gorgeous, intelligent, and fearless... I think I'm in love!

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