Sciencism is a cult. It's not to be confused with Science itself.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Why?Sam Lowry said:No.Waco1947 said:
Is God subject to physics or not?
A true minister would know why.Waco1947 said:Why?Sam Lowry said:No.Waco1947 said:
Is God subject to physics or not?
I am a true minister and I know. I am asking Sam why he thinks so. It's called dialogue.Oldbear83 said:A true minister would know why.Waco1947 said:Why?Sam Lowry said:No.Waco1947 said:
Is God subject to physics or not?
Strange, that you do not, Waco.
God decides who is true; men boast in vain. You have referred to Matthew Chapter 24 before - remember, Waco, how many of the 'goats' were so sure they were the good guys.Waco1947 said:I am a true minister and I know. I am asking Sam why he thinks so. It's called dialogue.Oldbear83 said:A true minister would know why.Waco1947 said:Why?Sam Lowry said:No.Waco1947 said:
Is God subject to physics or not?
Strange, that you do not, Waco.
Christianity is closer to a cult by definition. Sciencism is a loose urban term and sometimes used perjoratively without a certain definition. Scientism is what I think you are really looking for, and scientism is not a a religion.Oldbear83 said:
Sciencism is a cult. It's not to be confused with Science itself.
God created all things. The laws of physics hold that nothing can be created from nothing. Therefore God is not subject to the laws of physics.Waco1947 said:Why?Sam Lowry said:No.Waco1947 said:
Is God subject to physics or not?
So what natural laws was God created under?Sam Lowry said:God created all things. The laws of physics hold that nothing can be created from nothing. Therefore God is not subject to the laws of physics.Waco1947 said:Why?Sam Lowry said:No.Waco1947 said:
Is God subject to physics or not?
None. He was never created.TexasScientist said:So what natural laws was God created under?Sam Lowry said:God created all things. The laws of physics hold that nothing can be created from nothing. Therefore God is not subject to the laws of physics.Waco1947 said:Why?Sam Lowry said:No.Waco1947 said:
Is God subject to physics or not?
Then by your previous reasoning, he doesn't exist.Sam Lowry said:None. He was never created.TexasScientist said:So what natural laws was God created under?Sam Lowry said:God created all things. The laws of physics hold that nothing can be created from nothing. Therefore God is not subject to the laws of physics.Waco1947 said:Why?Sam Lowry said:No.Waco1947 said:
Is God subject to physics or not?
By what authority do you make this declaration? I just take your word for it?Sam Lowry said:God created all things. The laws of physics hold that nothing can be created from nothing. Therefore God is not subject to the laws of physics.Waco1947 said:Why?Sam Lowry said:No.Waco1947 said:
Is God subject to physics or not?
Waco1947 said:By what authority do you make this declaration? I just take your word for it?Sam Lowry said:God created all things. The laws of physics hold that nothing can be created from nothing. Therefore God is not subject to the laws of physics.Waco1947 said:Why?Sam Lowry said:No.Waco1947 said:
Is God subject to physics or not?
How so? I don't think I implied that.TexasScientist said:Then by your previous reasoning, he doesn't exist.Sam Lowry said:None. He was never created.TexasScientist said:So what natural laws was God created under?Sam Lowry said:God created all things. The laws of physics hold that nothing can be created from nothing. Therefore God is not subject to the laws of physics.Waco1947 said:Why?Sam Lowry said:No.Waco1947 said:
Is God subject to physics or not?
"Credo in unum Deum, Patrem omnipotentem, factorem caeli et terrae, visibilium omnium et invisibilium."Waco1947 said:By what authority do you make this declaration? I just take your word for it?Sam Lowry said:God created all things. The laws of physics hold that nothing can be created from nothing. Therefore God is not subject to the laws of physics.Waco1947 said:Why?Sam Lowry said:No.Waco1947 said:
Is God subject to physics or not?
Actually, there is quite a bit more empirical evidence supporting the value of Christianity, than of Sciencism (sorry you find that word discomforting, but from your posts you are certainly one of them).TexasScientist said:Christianity is closer to a cult by definition. Sciencism is a loose urban term and sometimes used perjoratively without a certain definition. Scientism is what I think you are really looking for, and scientism is not a a religion.Oldbear83 said:
Sciencism is a cult. It's not to be confused with Science itself.
. Cool you showed off. Translation pleaseSam Lowry said:"Credo in unum Deum, Patrem omnipotentem, factorem caeli et terrae, visibilium omnium et invisibilium."Waco1947 said:By what authority do you make this declaration? I just take your word for it?Sam Lowry said:God created all things. The laws of physics hold that nothing can be created from nothing. Therefore God is not subject to the laws of physics.Waco1947 said:Why?Sam Lowry said:No.Waco1947 said:
Is God subject to physics or not?
Oldbear83 said:Actually, there is quite a bit more empirical evidence supporting the value of Christianity, than of Sciencism (sorry you find that word discomforting, but from your posts you are certainly one of them).TexasScientist said:Christianity is closer to a cult by definition. Sciencism is a loose urban term and sometimes used perjoratively without a certain definition. Scientism is what I think you are really looking for, and scientism is not a a religion.Oldbear83 said:
Sciencism is a cult. It's not to be confused with Science itself.
And devotion to Chance as the reason for the Universe's existence is absolutely a religion, if a weak and dismal one.
why Genesis 1? By what authority is the Bible is the final authority on physics creation?YoakDaddy said:Waco1947 said:By what authority do you make this declaration? I just take your word for it?Sam Lowry said:God created all things. The laws of physics hold that nothing can be created from nothing. Therefore God is not subject to the laws of physics.Waco1947 said:Why?Sam Lowry said:No.Waco1947 said:
Is God subject to physics or not?
Genesis 1:1.
I will ask againWaco1947 said:why Genesis 1? By what authority is the Bible is the final authority on physics creation?YoakDaddy said:Waco1947 said:By what authority do you make this declaration? I just take your word for it?Sam Lowry said:God created all things. The laws of physics hold that nothing can be created from nothing. Therefore God is not subject to the laws of physics.Waco1947 said:Why?Sam Lowry said:No.Waco1947 said:
Is God subject to physics or not?
Genesis 1:1.
Waco1947 said:I will ask againWaco1947 said:why Genesis 1? By what authority is the Bible is the final authority on physics creation?YoakDaddy said:Waco1947 said:By what authority do you make this declaration? I just take your word for it?Sam Lowry said:God created all things. The laws of physics hold that nothing can be created from nothing. Therefore God is not subject to the laws of physics.Waco1947 said:Why?Sam Lowry said:No.Waco1947 said:
Is God subject to physics or not?
Genesis 1:1.
YoakDaddy said:Waco1947 said:I will ask againWaco1947 said:why Genesis 1? By what authority is the Bible is the final authority on physics creation?YoakDaddy said:Waco1947 said:By what authority do you make this declaration? I just take your word for it?Sam Lowry said:God created all things. The laws of physics hold that nothing can be created from nothing. Therefore God is not subject to the laws of physics.Waco1947 said:Why?Sam Lowry said:No.Waco1947 said:
Is God subject to physics or not?
Genesis 1:1.
Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."
That's all.
"Ask again" all you want you pompous *******. I was on a flight home. Some of us work for a living.
Just curious -when you attended seminary, what did you learn on that point?Waco1947 said:YoakDaddy said:Waco1947 said:I will ask againWaco1947 said:why Genesis 1? By what authority is the Bible is the final authority on physics creation?YoakDaddy said:Waco1947 said:By what authority do you make this declaration? I just take your word for it?Sam Lowry said:God created all things. The laws of physics hold that nothing can be created from nothing. Therefore God is not subject to the laws of physics.Waco1947 said:Why?Sam Lowry said:No.Waco1947 said:
Is God subject to physics or not?
Genesis 1:1.
Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."
That's all.
"Ask again" all you want you pompous *******. I was on a flight home. Some of us work for a living.
I believe I am asking why The God of Genesis and not the Hero Twins of the Navajos or Quetzalcoatl of the Aztecs or Marduk of the Babylonians. Why is our creation story more authoritative than theirs?
So do you believe the accounts in Scripture? Or do you count Man's opinion above God's word?Waco1947 said:
I learned that Genesis was a story of faith - our relationship to God. We are God's children.
I believe that Biblical story creation is about our creation as God's children. Genesis is a faith story first and formost. Right?Oldbear83 said:So do you believe the accounts in Scripture? Or do you count Man's opinion above God's word?Waco1947 said:
I learned that Genesis was a story of faith - our relationship to God. We are God's children.
Le sigh.Waco1947 said:. Cool you showed off. Translation pleaseSam Lowry said:"Credo in unum Deum, Patrem omnipotentem, factorem caeli et terrae, visibilium omnium et invisibilium."Waco1947 said:By what authority do you make this declaration? I just take your word for it?Sam Lowry said:God created all things. The laws of physics hold that nothing can be created from nothing. Therefore God is not subject to the laws of physics.Waco1947 said:Why?Sam Lowry said:No.Waco1947 said:
Is God subject to physics or not?
That's all you see there?Waco1947 said:I believe that Biblical story creation is about our creation as God's children. Genesis is a faith story first and formost. Right?Oldbear83 said:So do you believe the accounts in Scripture? Or do you count Man's opinion above God's word?Waco1947 said:
I learned that Genesis was a story of faith - our relationship to God. We are God's children.
Bless your heart. I believe in the one God all powerful of heaven and earth visible and invisible. Now why the hell do you mean. It's a credo (opinion)Sam Lowry said:Le sigh.Waco1947 said:. Cool you showed off. Translation pleaseSam Lowry said:"Credo in unum Deum, Patrem omnipotentem, factorem caeli et terrae, visibilium omnium et invisibilium."Waco1947 said:By what authority do you make this declaration? I just take your word for it?Sam Lowry said:God created all things. The laws of physics hold that nothing can be created from nothing. Therefore God is not subject to the laws of physics.Waco1947 said:Why?Sam Lowry said:No.Waco1947 said:
Is God subject to physics or not?
You asked whether you should take my word for it. I'm saying no.Waco1947 said:Bless your heart. I believe in the one God all powerful of heaven and earth visible and invisible. Now why the hell do you mean. It's a credo (opinion)Sam Lowry said:Le sigh.Waco1947 said:. Cool you showed off. Translation pleaseSam Lowry said:"Credo in unum Deum, Patrem omnipotentem, factorem caeli et terrae, visibilium omnium et invisibilium."Waco1947 said:By what authority do you make this declaration? I just take your word for it?Sam Lowry said:God created all things. The laws of physics hold that nothing can be created from nothing. Therefore God is not subject to the laws of physics.Waco1947 said:Why?Sam Lowry said:No.Waco1947 said:
Is God subject to physics or not?
Waco1947 said:YoakDaddy said:Waco1947 said:I will ask againWaco1947 said:why Genesis 1? By what authority is the Bible is the final authority on physics creation?YoakDaddy said:Waco1947 said:By what authority do you make this declaration? I just take your word for it?Sam Lowry said:God created all things. The laws of physics hold that nothing can be created from nothing. Therefore God is not subject to the laws of physics.Waco1947 said:Why?Sam Lowry said:No.Waco1947 said:
Is God subject to physics or not?
Genesis 1:1.
Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."
That's all.
"Ask again" all you want you pompous *******. I was on a flight home. Some of us work for a living.
I believe I am asking why The God of Genesis and not the Hero Twins of the Navajos or Quetzalcoatl of the Aztecs or Marduk of the Babylonians. Why is our creation story more authoritative than theirs?