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Still waiting for someone to define affordable on total purchase price and monthly payments.
"Affordable housing" is like "living wage" and "fair trade coffee."
Emotional histrionics for those that don't trust them there numbers and figurin.
Like most everything else, Democrat regulation has caused housing to be unaffordable from "rent control" schemes to kickbacks to Big Labor to climate change hysteria.
Still haven't had one of those arguing there isn't enough affordable housing give me their definition
I would say it is not a simple definition or a simple price point that applies for the whole country. I think it would mean housing in a price point people can afford without cutting everything else, in decent areas, and a reasonable size. No micro homes, no homes that are a reasonable price but in bad areas, no trailer homes, etc.
That's not definable, actionable or measurable. If you want things to change you have to be able to define what you want.
Affordable means "200,000 or less than $1500/mo"
People avoid that because those exist in almost all parts of the country…just not in places people want or in a size they think is big enough.
But we can't even have the conversation if you can't define affordable housing.
Not to beat a dead horse, but the trend continues ... never going to get a LWNJ to answer specific questions, define terms, etc., because it inherently moves the conversation from emotional to intellectual.
I am far from a LWNJ and not the one who started this thread but have agreed with parts of the facts shown here about how homes have become out of reasonable price range for many Americans.
Part of the problem is that when talking real estate there is not a set price that can fit the whole country as a "reasonable" price. I pointed that out but he didn't like that answer. He wanted a set price point for the whole country. But that isn't how real estate works.
The facts show that the average age for first time home buyers has gone up. That should be a concern. Same for several of the other facts that have been presented in this thread.
But what I think is missing is that there is affordable housing - there is just not affordable housing that privileged, young white Gen Z buyers feel is worthy of them. It is not that housing is not affordable - it is the house that the privileged Gen Z buyer feels entitled to is not affordable. There is a difference.
If what you said were true then there would be a large portion of the population buying houses. You know the other generations and the non whites.
And yet that isn't happening.
There is a large percentage of the millennial, and the end of gen x that don't own, have never owned or bought much later in life and it wasn't for the reasons you gave above.
Sorry. Maybe you did not read what I typed.
They are choosing to not buy houses that they feel is beneath their sense of entitlement
That is why they're not buying houses.
Lol. That is not what you typed. You specifically said whites.
But good job at deflecting. What about the other races? The other generations? Where is your proof that your reason is why whites are not buying?
Apologies - I misread your comment. My brain has been a little foggy lately.
The reality is that whites make up the overwhelming amount of home-buyers, so they really dictate the market. They're are plenty of young black and Latino folks buying homes in their old neighborhoods. Just drive through South Dallas and other areas and you'll see young African-Americans and Latinos trying to improve their neighborhoods.
As usual, it is the racist, privileged white Democrat Gen-Zers that are not buying in "poor" neighborhoods and thus foregoing purchasing.
