KaiBear said:

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Agreed

However yesterday's Gaza pronouncement is going to unite leftists and conservatives against Trump.

It was a huge misstep.

Trump better make a unTrump like retreat before his presidential momentum is stopped cold.

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I don't think so. I think it was masterful. Get the Saudi's united with Israel. There is a deal to be made and he will make it. Wave one flag brightly while in the background, getting another deal done

Assassin said:

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KaiBear said:

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Agreed

However yesterday's Gaza pronouncement is going to unite leftists and conservatives against Trump.

It was a huge misstep.

Trump better make a unTrump like retreat before his presidential momentum is stopped cold.

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I don't think so. I think it was masterful. Get the Saudi's united with Israel. There is a deal to be made and he will make it. Wave one flag brightly while in the background, getting another deal done

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Sincerely hope you are correct.

However the Saudis have already messaged their opposition to kicking the Palestinians out of Gaza and the Palestinians themselves are going ape *****

No way this deal helps the US in any reasonable way.


America First ?????

KaiBear said:

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Assassin said:

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KaiBear said:

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Agreed

However yesterday's Gaza pronouncement is going to unite leftists and conservatives against Trump.

It was a huge misstep.

Trump better make a unTrump like retreat before his presidential momentum is stopped cold.

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I don't think so. I think it was masterful. Get the Saudi's united with Israel. There is a deal to be made and he will make it. Wave one flag brightly while in the background, getting another deal done

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Sincerely hope you are correct.

However the Saudis have already messaged their opposition to kicking the Palestinians out of Gaza and the Palestinians themselves are going ape *****

No way this deal helps the US in any reasonable way.


America First ?????

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Wait until tomorrow and the Saudis do an about-face. OR, they take the Palestinians, let Trump de-bomb, level, and rebuild Gaza, installing businesses and so forth, then let the Palestinians come back in, but under some sort of new governance that stops HAMAS.

nein51 said:

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While we are on topic. How do we feel about governance via executive order? I like a lot of what he is doing but I don't love doing it via executive orders.

It feels good right now but I won't feel good when it's the "other side" doing it.

Have to give him credit though. He's doing essentially exactly what he said he was going to.

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Signing a bunch of EO's by itself is inadequate. Trump is getting things started and making great strides but he's going to have to get Congress on board at some point for more substantial & lasting changes. It's no good, even with 8 years of Vance, if the Left retakes control and does what Biden did but on steroids and with a sentient leader.

I think he meets with Saudis next week. I agree there is probably a lot more going on that Trump wants the USA to own Gaza. Trump and BN hatched a plan.

historian said:

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nein51 said:

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While we are on topic. How do we feel about governance via executive order? I like a lot of what he is doing but I don't love doing it via executive orders.

It feels good right now but I won't feel good when it's the "other side" doing it.

Have to give him credit though. He's doing essentially exactly what he said he was going to.

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Signing a bunch of EO's by itself is inadequate. Trump is getting things started and making great strides but he's going to have to get Congress on board at some point for more substantial & lasting changes. It's no good, even with 8 years of Vance, if the Left retakes control and does what Biden did but on steroids and with a sentient leader.

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Exactly

This is so dumb. Can we at least let the guy move his furniture in before we start trying to kick him out.

.@RepAlGreen: "The movement to impeach the president has begun. I rise to announce that I will bring Articles of Impeachment against the president for dastardly deeds proposed and dastardly deeds done." pic.twitter.com/pWJ4rnTcGD

— CSPAN (@cspan) February 5, 2025

nein51 said:

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historian said:

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nein51 said:

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While we are on topic. How do we feel about governance via executive order? I like a lot of what he is doing but I don't love doing it via executive orders.

It feels good right now but I won't feel good when it's the "other side" doing it.

Have to give him credit though. He's doing essentially exactly what he said he was going to.

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Signing a bunch of EO's by itself is inadequate. Trump is getting things started and making great strides but he's going to have to get Congress on board at some point for more substantial & lasting changes. It's no good, even with 8 years of Vance, if the Left retakes control and does what Biden did but on steroids and with a sentient leader.

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Exactly

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they need to get enough dirt on the dirty republican establishment guys to make anything pass. That's what they're looking for, lol.

boognish_bear said:

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This is so dumb. Can we at least let the guy move his furniture in before we start trying to kick him out.

.@RepAlGreen: "The movement to impeach the president has begun. I rise to announce that I will bring Articles of Impeachment against the president for dastardly deeds proposed and dastardly deeds done." pic.twitter.com/pWJ4rnTcGD

— CSPAN (@cspan) February 5, 2025

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lol, took them this long?

This is going nowhere.. again

historian said:

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nein51 said:

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While we are on topic. How do we feel about governance via executive order? I like a lot of what he is doing but I don't love doing it via executive orders.

It feels good right now but I won't feel good when it's the "other side" doing it.

Have to give him credit though. He's doing essentially exactly what he said he was going to.

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Signing a bunch of EO's by itself is inadequate. Trump is getting things started and making great strides but he's going to have to get Congress on board at some point for more substantial & lasting changes. It's no good, even with 8 years of Vance, if the Left retakes control and does what Biden did but on steroids and with a sentient leader.

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he's doing the max he can with the latitude he has, and it will require a lot of effort by Dems to stop him. worse for them, once he's done firing and cutting spending, it WILL require Congressional action to rebuild all that he's undone. Next Dem POTUS can't appropriate monies without Congress.

He appears to have done a lot of homework. "Doge" is not exactly a name fished out of a hat. It fits a broader plan, explained at link:

🧵🧵DOGE - A Lawyer’s Perspective on the @elonmusk @realDonaldTrump Policy Centerpiece

I inherently do not trust the media so I decided to look into DOGE myself and see what is under the hood. Initially I was quite concerned about the legality of a “new agency” created by… pic.twitter.com/FTVSiMmKJB

— Tom Renz (@RenzTom) February 5, 2025

37 people had a "Politico Pro" subscription and it cost $517,855. OPM

🚨 This is the biggest scandal in news media history:

No employee at Politico got paid yesterday. First time ever the company missed a pay period. This is a crisis.

Now we learn Politico — a “news company” — which spent the last 10 years trying to destroy the MAGA Movement was… pic.twitter.com/DwHqEp6gjp

— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) February 5, 2025

Sorry what

37 people need a subscription to Politico so it costs $517k ???

Am i reading this right 😬 pic.twitter.com/Xu9OhTq4uc

— Rational Actor (@Eamon_of_X) February 5, 2025

Hilarious the posters here, we all know who they are, that been getting lapped for years by trump and the people that know what he's doing.

Even commie van jones bent the knee. But it's too late. They already been bagged and missed it. Lmao

Von Jones: “Guys, can we cut it out? Donald Trump is not an idiot… Donald Trump is smarter than me, you, and all the critics… this dude is a phenomenal—he is the most powerful human on earth.” pic.twitter.com/jbVMkFjDFV

— Defiant World (@DefiantWorld) February 3, 2025

add Reuters to the list.

They were paid for "Active Social Engineering Defense" and "Large Scale Social Deception"? What is that?

What is this? pic.twitter.com/YYW73hlFMq

— Phil Holloway ✈️ (@PhilHollowayEsq) February 5, 2025

She only said 8M to Politico is getting cut. What about the other 32M not from usaid?

whiterock said:

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historian said:

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nein51 said:

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While we are on topic. How do we feel about governance via executive order? I like a lot of what he is doing but I don't love doing it via executive orders.

It feels good right now but I won't feel good when it's the "other side" doing it.

Have to give him credit though. He's doing essentially exactly what he said he was going to.

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Signing a bunch of EO's by itself is inadequate. Trump is getting things started and making great strides but he's going to have to get Congress on board at some point for more substantial & lasting changes. It's no good, even with 8 years of Vance, if the Left retakes control and does what Biden did but on steroids and with a sentient leader.

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he's doing the max he can with the latitude he has, and it will require a lot of effort by Dems to stop him. worse for them, once he's done firing and cutting spending, it WILL require Congressional action to rebuild all that he's undone. Next Dem POTUS can't appropriate monies without Congress.

He appears to have done a lot of homework. "Doge" is not exactly a name fished out of a hat. It fits a broader plan, explained at link:

🧵🧵DOGE - A Lawyer’s Perspective on the @elonmusk @realDonaldTrump Policy Centerpiece

I inherently do not trust the media so I decided to look into DOGE myself and see what is under the hood. Initially I was quite concerned about the legality of a “new agency” created by… pic.twitter.com/FTVSiMmKJB

— Tom Renz (@RenzTom) February 5, 2025

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Interesting and a brilliant way to do it

Jacques Strap said:

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The US Government gave the New York Times tens of millions of dollars over just the past 5 years despite paying relatively little money to the NYT in the years preceding 2021. For instance, in August 2024, the US government awarded $4.1 million to the NYT.

The bulk of the funds… pic.twitter.com/XWvv3CplI8

— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) February 5, 2025

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What did it "claim" we were paying the NYT for?

I'm in my mid 40s. It wasn't that long ago that Democrats were fairly normal people. I might have disagreed with some policy positions but they were largely normal. In, maybe, 6-8 years they have become a parody. They have a 31% favorability rating right now. Their unfavorability rating is the highest it's been since 2008 when the question was first surveyed…and that's from Quinnipiac.

There's no way they think this is going to make them more favorable.

"We have a problem…people hate us…we should totally try to impeach the president for the 37th time because we don't like him"

"Do you have any grounds for that?"

"No but what the hell, people will LOVE it!"

Can we add a clause that if you fall more than once you lose your seat?

McConnell fell again inside the room, we’re told https://t.co/Hb1nWUGDvp

— John Bresnahan (@bresreports) February 5, 2025

DOOCY: Do the DOGE engineers have read only access to these systems?

LEAVITT: Yes

DOOCY: So they are not allowed to write new code?

LEAVITT: No pic.twitter.com/Lf32dhDvjO

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) February 5, 2025

President Donald Trump will sign an executive order Wednesday designed to prevent people who were biologically assigned male at birth from participating in women's or girls' sporting events. https://t.co/57XwdjyIy9

— ESPN (@espn) February 5, 2025

Win what?

Schumer leads a chant of "We will win! We will win! We won't rest! We won't rest!" pic.twitter.com/8XcPbqpVAv

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) February 4, 2025

boognish_bear said:

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Win what?

Schumer leads a chant of "We will win! We will win! We won't rest! We won't rest!" pic.twitter.com/8XcPbqpVAv

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) February 4, 2025

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That was one of the weakest chants in political history.

boognish_bear said:

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DOOCY: Do the DOGE engineers have read only access to these systems?

LEAVITT: Yes

DOOCY: So they are not allowed to write new code?

LEAVITT: No pic.twitter.com/Lf32dhDvjO

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) February 5, 2025

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Folks, these are AI/coding engineers at the top of the class. Pretty sure that both they and Musk could get past Read Only as we know it, if that was the direction that Musk wanted to go

Rep. Andy Biggs introduces bill to abolish OSHA and completely eliminate federal workplace safety protections. pic.twitter.com/NPtJiMvrTJ

— FactPost (@factpostnews) February 4, 2025

Assassin said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Win what?

Schumer leads a chant of "We will win! We will win! We won't rest! We won't rest!" pic.twitter.com/8XcPbqpVAv

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) February 4, 2025

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That was one of the weakest chants in political history.

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Further hurting their cause.