EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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One for the "pro-lifers."

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You still cool with Russia razing city after city in Ukraine and sending missiles at residential buildings on a daily basis?

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The cases could hardly be more different. Like Israel, Russia issues evacuation orders before attacking a town. But unlike Gazans, the people of Ukraine aren't confined in an open air prison with nowhere to go. They can actually move freely to safety. And unlike the Israelis, the Russians don't bomb them while they're relocating.

There has been indiscriminate, or more often intentional, destruction of residential areas by the Zelensky government. One of the reasons Russia invaded was to protect the Russian population from such attacks. The last thing they want to do is kill the people of their newly acquired territory.

As for western Ukraine, the recent wave of attacks that Trump complained about is illustrative. Russia sent over 500 missiles and drones into cities across the country, killing a grand total of 1 (one) civilian. On the same day, Israelis gunned down dozens of unarmed Palestinians seeking food at aid distribution centers in Gaza. For all that our Ukrainian proxies have suffered, they are far better off than the victims of Israel's genocide.

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Russia has killed thousands of innocent civilians, including women and children.

So demolishing historic cities is ok when most (not all) of its citizens are forced to leave?

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"Demolish" is an interesting choice of words. Russians consider Ukrainian history very much a part of their own. I don't see them using controlled demolitions to destroy thousands of buildings, including hospitals, churches, and schools, erasing every trace of indigenous culture, and posting selfies and videos online to celebrate it. Israel is doing all of these things.

The destruction you see in Ukraine is a result of combat. Defenses are set up in apartment buildings, factories, or any other place that provides an advantage. Those positions are attacked, and buildings are damaged or destroyed. It's just old-fashioned urban warfare. Not anything like the systematic destruction of Gaza.

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Hamas uses far more "residential shields" than Ukraine does.

And Russia launching thousands of missiles into Kyiv and other civilian areas has no relation to urban combat.

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There are plenty of military and dual-use targets in those areas.

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Are Hamas military tunnels "military and dual use targets?"

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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One for the "pro-lifers."

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You still cool with Russia razing city after city in Ukraine and sending missiles at residential buildings on a daily basis?

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The cases could hardly be more different. Like Israel, Russia issues evacuation orders before attacking a town. But unlike Gazans, the people of Ukraine aren't confined in an open air prison with nowhere to go. They can actually move freely to safety. And unlike the Israelis, the Russians don't bomb them while they're relocating.

There has been indiscriminate, or more often intentional, destruction of residential areas by the Zelensky government. One of the reasons Russia invaded was to protect the Russian population from such attacks. The last thing they want to do is kill the people of their newly acquired territory.

As for western Ukraine, the recent wave of attacks that Trump complained about is illustrative. Russia sent over 500 missiles and drones into cities across the country, killing a grand total of 1 (one) civilian. On the same day, Israelis gunned down dozens of unarmed Palestinians seeking food at aid distribution centers in Gaza. For all that our Ukrainian proxies have suffered, they are far better off than the victims of Israel's genocide.

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Russia has killed thousands of innocent civilians, including women and children.

So demolishing historic cities is ok when most (not all) of its citizens are forced to leave?

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"Demolish" is an interesting choice of words. Russians consider Ukrainian history very much a part of their own. I don't see them using controlled demolitions to destroy thousands of buildings, including hospitals, churches, and schools, erasing every trace of indigenous culture, and posting selfies and videos online to celebrate it. Israel is doing all of these things.

The destruction you see in Ukraine is a result of combat. Defenses are set up in apartment buildings, factories, or any other place that provides an advantage. Those positions are attacked, and buildings are damaged or destroyed. It's just old-fashioned urban warfare. Not anything like the systematic destruction of Gaza.

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Hamas uses far more "residential shields" than Ukraine does.

And Russia launching thousands of missiles into Kyiv and other civilian areas has no relation to urban combat.

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There are plenty of military and dual-use targets in those areas.

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Are Hamas military tunnels "military and dual use targets?"

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Yes, and strange to say they remain largely intact despite the civilian carnage. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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One for the "pro-lifers."

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You still cool with Russia razing city after city in Ukraine and sending missiles at residential buildings on a daily basis?

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The cases could hardly be more different. Like Israel, Russia issues evacuation orders before attacking a town. But unlike Gazans, the people of Ukraine aren't confined in an open air prison with nowhere to go. They can actually move freely to safety. And unlike the Israelis, the Russians don't bomb them while they're relocating.

There has been indiscriminate, or more often intentional, destruction of residential areas by the Zelensky government. One of the reasons Russia invaded was to protect the Russian population from such attacks. The last thing they want to do is kill the people of their newly acquired territory.

As for western Ukraine, the recent wave of attacks that Trump complained about is illustrative. Russia sent over 500 missiles and drones into cities across the country, killing a grand total of 1 (one) civilian. On the same day, Israelis gunned down dozens of unarmed Palestinians seeking food at aid distribution centers in Gaza. For all that our Ukrainian proxies have suffered, they are far better off than the victims of Israel's genocide.

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Russia has killed thousands of innocent civilians, including women and children.

So demolishing historic cities is ok when most (not all) of its citizens are forced to leave?

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"Demolish" is an interesting choice of words. Russians consider Ukrainian history very much a part of their own. I don't see them using controlled demolitions to destroy thousands of buildings, including hospitals, churches, and schools, erasing every trace of indigenous culture, and posting selfies and videos online to celebrate it. Israel is doing all of these things.

The destruction you see in Ukraine is a result of combat. Defenses are set up in apartment buildings, factories, or any other place that provides an advantage. Those positions are attacked, and buildings are damaged or destroyed. It's just old-fashioned urban warfare. Not anything like the systematic destruction of Gaza.

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Hamas uses far more "residential shields" than Ukraine does.

And Russia launching thousands of missiles into Kyiv and other civilian areas has no relation to urban combat.

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There are plenty of military and dual-use targets in those areas.

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Are Hamas military tunnels "military and dual use targets?"

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Yes, and strange to say they remain largely intact despite the civilian carnage. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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One for the "pro-lifers."

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You still cool with Russia razing city after city in Ukraine and sending missiles at residential buildings on a daily basis?

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The cases could hardly be more different. Like Israel, Russia issues evacuation orders before attacking a town. But unlike Gazans, the people of Ukraine aren't confined in an open air prison with nowhere to go. They can actually move freely to safety. And unlike the Israelis, the Russians don't bomb them while they're relocating.

There has been indiscriminate, or more often intentional, destruction of residential areas by the Zelensky government. One of the reasons Russia invaded was to protect the Russian population from such attacks. The last thing they want to do is kill the people of their newly acquired territory.

As for western Ukraine, the recent wave of attacks that Trump complained about is illustrative. Russia sent over 500 missiles and drones into cities across the country, killing a grand total of 1 (one) civilian. On the same day, Israelis gunned down dozens of unarmed Palestinians seeking food at aid distribution centers in Gaza. For all that our Ukrainian proxies have suffered, they are far better off than the victims of Israel's genocide.

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Russia has killed thousands of innocent civilians, including women and children.

So demolishing historic cities is ok when most (not all) of its citizens are forced to leave?

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"Demolish" is an interesting choice of words. Russians consider Ukrainian history very much a part of their own. I don't see them using controlled demolitions to destroy thousands of buildings, including hospitals, churches, and schools, erasing every trace of indigenous culture, and posting selfies and videos online to celebrate it. Israel is doing all of these things.

The destruction you see in Ukraine is a result of combat. Defenses are set up in apartment buildings, factories, or any other place that provides an advantage. Those positions are attacked, and buildings are damaged or destroyed. It's just old-fashioned urban warfare. Not anything like the systematic destruction of Gaza.

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Hamas uses far more "residential shields" than Ukraine does.

And Russia launching thousands of missiles into Kyiv and other civilian areas has no relation to urban combat.

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There are plenty of military and dual-use targets in those areas.

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Are Hamas military tunnels "military and dual use targets?"

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Yes, and strange to say they remain largely intact despite the civilian carnage. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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One for the "pro-lifers."

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You still cool with Russia razing city after city in Ukraine and sending missiles at residential buildings on a daily basis?

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The cases could hardly be more different. Like Israel, Russia issues evacuation orders before attacking a town. But unlike Gazans, the people of Ukraine aren't confined in an open air prison with nowhere to go. They can actually move freely to safety. And unlike the Israelis, the Russians don't bomb them while they're relocating.

There has been indiscriminate, or more often intentional, destruction of residential areas by the Zelensky government. One of the reasons Russia invaded was to protect the Russian population from such attacks. The last thing they want to do is kill the people of their newly acquired territory.

As for western Ukraine, the recent wave of attacks that Trump complained about is illustrative. Russia sent over 500 missiles and drones into cities across the country, killing a grand total of 1 (one) civilian. On the same day, Israelis gunned down dozens of unarmed Palestinians seeking food at aid distribution centers in Gaza. For all that our Ukrainian proxies have suffered, they are far better off than the victims of Israel's genocide.

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Russia has killed thousands of innocent civilians, including women and children.

So demolishing historic cities is ok when most (not all) of its citizens are forced to leave?

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"Demolish" is an interesting choice of words. Russians consider Ukrainian history very much a part of their own. I don't see them using controlled demolitions to destroy thousands of buildings, including hospitals, churches, and schools, erasing every trace of indigenous culture, and posting selfies and videos online to celebrate it. Israel is doing all of these things.

The destruction you see in Ukraine is a result of combat. Defenses are set up in apartment buildings, factories, or any other place that provides an advantage. Those positions are attacked, and buildings are damaged or destroyed. It's just old-fashioned urban warfare. Not anything like the systematic destruction of Gaza.

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Hamas uses far more "residential shields" than Ukraine does.

And Russia launching thousands of missiles into Kyiv and other civilian areas has no relation to urban combat.

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There are plenty of military and dual-use targets in those areas.

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Are Hamas military tunnels "military and dual use targets?"

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Yes, and strange to say they remain largely intact despite the civilian carnage. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

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And were you one of the people crying foul when Israel tried to flood them with seawater?

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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One for the "pro-lifers."

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You still cool with Russia razing city after city in Ukraine and sending missiles at residential buildings on a daily basis?

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The cases could hardly be more different. Like Israel, Russia issues evacuation orders before attacking a town. But unlike Gazans, the people of Ukraine aren't confined in an open air prison with nowhere to go. They can actually move freely to safety. And unlike the Israelis, the Russians don't bomb them while they're relocating.

There has been indiscriminate, or more often intentional, destruction of residential areas by the Zelensky government. One of the reasons Russia invaded was to protect the Russian population from such attacks. The last thing they want to do is kill the people of their newly acquired territory.

As for western Ukraine, the recent wave of attacks that Trump complained about is illustrative. Russia sent over 500 missiles and drones into cities across the country, killing a grand total of 1 (one) civilian. On the same day, Israelis gunned down dozens of unarmed Palestinians seeking food at aid distribution centers in Gaza. For all that our Ukrainian proxies have suffered, they are far better off than the victims of Israel's genocide.

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Russia has killed thousands of innocent civilians, including women and children.

So demolishing historic cities is ok when most (not all) of its citizens are forced to leave?

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"Demolish" is an interesting choice of words. Russians consider Ukrainian history very much a part of their own. I don't see them using controlled demolitions to destroy thousands of buildings, including hospitals, churches, and schools, erasing every trace of indigenous culture, and posting selfies and videos online to celebrate it. Israel is doing all of these things.

The destruction you see in Ukraine is a result of combat. Defenses are set up in apartment buildings, factories, or any other place that provides an advantage. Those positions are attacked, and buildings are damaged or destroyed. It's just old-fashioned urban warfare. Not anything like the systematic destruction of Gaza.

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Hamas uses far more "residential shields" than Ukraine does.

And Russia launching thousands of missiles into Kyiv and other civilian areas has no relation to urban combat.

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There are plenty of military and dual-use targets in those areas.

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Are Hamas military tunnels "military and dual use targets?"

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Yes, and strange to say they remain largely intact despite the civilian carnage. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

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No. It's part and parcel of Israel holding back on killing civilians. There are over 2M people in Gaza. If Israel was down with intentional or byproduct genocide, way more than 50k would be dead right now and even more of the infrastructure would be gone.

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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People often don't understand how small Gaza is. It is about the size of the city of Lubbock. Not the city plus suburbs, just the city of Lubbock itself

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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One for the "pro-lifers."

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You still cool with Russia razing city after city in Ukraine and sending missiles at residential buildings on a daily basis?

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The cases could hardly be more different. Like Israel, Russia issues evacuation orders before attacking a town. But unlike Gazans, the people of Ukraine aren't confined in an open air prison with nowhere to go. They can actually move freely to safety. And unlike the Israelis, the Russians don't bomb them while they're relocating.

There has been indiscriminate, or more often intentional, destruction of residential areas by the Zelensky government. One of the reasons Russia invaded was to protect the Russian population from such attacks. The last thing they want to do is kill the people of their newly acquired territory.

As for western Ukraine, the recent wave of attacks that Trump complained about is illustrative. Russia sent over 500 missiles and drones into cities across the country, killing a grand total of 1 (one) civilian. On the same day, Israelis gunned down dozens of unarmed Palestinians seeking food at aid distribution centers in Gaza. For all that our Ukrainian proxies have suffered, they are far better off than the victims of Israel's genocide.

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Russia has killed thousands of innocent civilians, including women and children.

So demolishing historic cities is ok when most (not all) of its citizens are forced to leave?

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"Demolish" is an interesting choice of words. Russians consider Ukrainian history very much a part of their own. I don't see them using controlled demolitions to destroy thousands of buildings, including hospitals, churches, and schools, erasing every trace of indigenous culture, and posting selfies and videos online to celebrate it. Israel is doing all of these things.

The destruction you see in Ukraine is a result of combat. Defenses are set up in apartment buildings, factories, or any other place that provides an advantage. Those positions are attacked, and buildings are damaged or destroyed. It's just old-fashioned urban warfare. Not anything like the systematic destruction of Gaza.

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Hamas uses far more "residential shields" than Ukraine does.

And Russia launching thousands of missiles into Kyiv and other civilian areas has no relation to urban combat.

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There are plenty of military and dual-use targets in those areas.

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Are Hamas military tunnels "military and dual use targets?"

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Yes, and strange to say they remain largely intact despite the civilian carnage. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

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No. It's part and parcel of Israel holding back on killing civilians. There are over 2M people in Gaza. If Israel was down with intentional or byproduct genocide, way more than 50k would be dead right now and even more of the infrastructure would be gone.

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There are probably two to four times that many dead, depending on whose estimates you use. In addition to the infrastructure damage I cited above, water and sanitation are around 5% of pre-war capacity, over 90% of roads are damaged or destroyed, and electricity is minimal to non-existent.

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canoso said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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One for the "pro-lifers."

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You still cool with Russia razing city after city in Ukraine and sending missiles at residential buildings on a daily basis?

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The cases could hardly be more different. Like Israel, Russia issues evacuation orders before attacking a town. But unlike Gazans, the people of Ukraine aren't confined in an open air prison with nowhere to go. They can actually move freely to safety. And unlike the Israelis, the Russians don't bomb them while they're relocating.

There has been indiscriminate, or more often intentional, destruction of residential areas by the Zelensky government. One of the reasons Russia invaded was to protect the Russian population from such attacks. The last thing they want to do is kill the people of their newly acquired territory.

As for western Ukraine, the recent wave of attacks that Trump complained about is illustrative. Russia sent over 500 missiles and drones into cities across the country, killing a grand total of 1 (one) civilian. On the same day, Israelis gunned down dozens of unarmed Palestinians seeking food at aid distribution centers in Gaza. For all that our Ukrainian proxies have suffered, they are far better off than the victims of Israel's genocide.

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Russia has killed thousands of innocent civilians, including women and children.

So demolishing historic cities is ok when most (not all) of its citizens are forced to leave?

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"Demolish" is an interesting choice of words. Russians consider Ukrainian history very much a part of their own. I don't see them using controlled demolitions to destroy thousands of buildings, including hospitals, churches, and schools, erasing every trace of indigenous culture, and posting selfies and videos online to celebrate it. Israel is doing all of these things.

The destruction you see in Ukraine is a result of combat. Defenses are set up in apartment buildings, factories, or any other place that provides an advantage. Those positions are attacked, and buildings are damaged or destroyed. It's just old-fashioned urban warfare. Not anything like the systematic destruction of Gaza.

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Hamas uses far more "residential shields" than Ukraine does.

And Russia launching thousands of missiles into Kyiv and other civilian areas has no relation to urban combat.

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There are plenty of military and dual-use targets in those areas.

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Are Hamas military tunnels "military and dual use targets?"

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Yes, and strange to say they remain largely intact despite the civilian carnage. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

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No. It's part and parcel of Israel holding back on killing civilians. There are over 2M people in Gaza. If Israel was down with intentional or byproduct genocide, way more than 50k would be dead right now and even more of the infrastructure would be gone.

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There are probably two to four times that many dead, depending on whose estimates you use. In addition to the infrastructure damage I cited above, water and sanitation are around 5% of pre-war capacity, over 90% of roads are damaged or destroyed, and electricity is minimal to non-existent.

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So Hamas has released all the hostages?

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canoso said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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One for the "pro-lifers."

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You still cool with Russia razing city after city in Ukraine and sending missiles at residential buildings on a daily basis?

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The cases could hardly be more different. Like Israel, Russia issues evacuation orders before attacking a town. But unlike Gazans, the people of Ukraine aren't confined in an open air prison with nowhere to go. They can actually move freely to safety. And unlike the Israelis, the Russians don't bomb them while they're relocating.

There has been indiscriminate, or more often intentional, destruction of residential areas by the Zelensky government. One of the reasons Russia invaded was to protect the Russian population from such attacks. The last thing they want to do is kill the people of their newly acquired territory.

As for western Ukraine, the recent wave of attacks that Trump complained about is illustrative. Russia sent over 500 missiles and drones into cities across the country, killing a grand total of 1 (one) civilian. On the same day, Israelis gunned down dozens of unarmed Palestinians seeking food at aid distribution centers in Gaza. For all that our Ukrainian proxies have suffered, they are far better off than the victims of Israel's genocide.

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Russia has killed thousands of innocent civilians, including women and children.

So demolishing historic cities is ok when most (not all) of its citizens are forced to leave?

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"Demolish" is an interesting choice of words. Russians consider Ukrainian history very much a part of their own. I don't see them using controlled demolitions to destroy thousands of buildings, including hospitals, churches, and schools, erasing every trace of indigenous culture, and posting selfies and videos online to celebrate it. Israel is doing all of these things.

The destruction you see in Ukraine is a result of combat. Defenses are set up in apartment buildings, factories, or any other place that provides an advantage. Those positions are attacked, and buildings are damaged or destroyed. It's just old-fashioned urban warfare. Not anything like the systematic destruction of Gaza.

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Hamas uses far more "residential shields" than Ukraine does.

And Russia launching thousands of missiles into Kyiv and other civilian areas has no relation to urban combat.

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There are plenty of military and dual-use targets in those areas.

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Are Hamas military tunnels "military and dual use targets?"

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Yes, and strange to say they remain largely intact despite the civilian carnage. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

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No. It's part and parcel of Israel holding back on killing civilians. There are over 2M people in Gaza. If Israel was down with intentional or byproduct genocide, way more than 50k would be dead right now and even more of the infrastructure would be gone.

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There are probably two to four times that many dead, depending on whose estimates you use. In addition to the infrastructure damage I cited above, water and sanitation are around 5% of pre-war capacity, over 90% of roads are damaged or destroyed, and electricity is minimal to non-existent.

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So Hamas has released all the hostages?

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Yep. They're faking it.

https://www.jfeed.com/news-israel/gaza-staged-photos-scandal

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Sam Lowry said:

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canoso said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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One for the "pro-lifers."

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You still cool with Russia razing city after city in Ukraine and sending missiles at residential buildings on a daily basis?

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The cases could hardly be more different. Like Israel, Russia issues evacuation orders before attacking a town. But unlike Gazans, the people of Ukraine aren't confined in an open air prison with nowhere to go. They can actually move freely to safety. And unlike the Israelis, the Russians don't bomb them while they're relocating.

There has been indiscriminate, or more often intentional, destruction of residential areas by the Zelensky government. One of the reasons Russia invaded was to protect the Russian population from such attacks. The last thing they want to do is kill the people of their newly acquired territory.

As for western Ukraine, the recent wave of attacks that Trump complained about is illustrative. Russia sent over 500 missiles and drones into cities across the country, killing a grand total of 1 (one) civilian. On the same day, Israelis gunned down dozens of unarmed Palestinians seeking food at aid distribution centers in Gaza. For all that our Ukrainian proxies have suffered, they are far better off than the victims of Israel's genocide.

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Russia has killed thousands of innocent civilians, including women and children.

So demolishing historic cities is ok when most (not all) of its citizens are forced to leave?

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"Demolish" is an interesting choice of words. Russians consider Ukrainian history very much a part of their own. I don't see them using controlled demolitions to destroy thousands of buildings, including hospitals, churches, and schools, erasing every trace of indigenous culture, and posting selfies and videos online to celebrate it. Israel is doing all of these things.

The destruction you see in Ukraine is a result of combat. Defenses are set up in apartment buildings, factories, or any other place that provides an advantage. Those positions are attacked, and buildings are damaged or destroyed. It's just old-fashioned urban warfare. Not anything like the systematic destruction of Gaza.

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Hamas uses far more "residential shields" than Ukraine does.

And Russia launching thousands of missiles into Kyiv and other civilian areas has no relation to urban combat.

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There are plenty of military and dual-use targets in those areas.

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Are Hamas military tunnels "military and dual use targets?"

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Yes, and strange to say they remain largely intact despite the civilian carnage. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

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No. It's part and parcel of Israel holding back on killing civilians. There are over 2M people in Gaza. If Israel was down with intentional or byproduct genocide, way more than 50k would be dead right now and even more of the infrastructure would be gone.

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There are probably two to four times that many dead, depending on whose estimates you use. In addition to the infrastructure damage I cited above, water and sanitation are around 5% of pre-war capacity, over 90% of roads are damaged or destroyed, and electricity is minimal to non-existent.

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So Hamas has released all the hostages?

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Are you implying that collective punishment of women and children is justified until the enemy meets your demands?

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canoso said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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canoso said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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One for the "pro-lifers."

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You still cool with Russia razing city after city in Ukraine and sending missiles at residential buildings on a daily basis?

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The cases could hardly be more different. Like Israel, Russia issues evacuation orders before attacking a town. But unlike Gazans, the people of Ukraine aren't confined in an open air prison with nowhere to go. They can actually move freely to safety. And unlike the Israelis, the Russians don't bomb them while they're relocating.

There has been indiscriminate, or more often intentional, destruction of residential areas by the Zelensky government. One of the reasons Russia invaded was to protect the Russian population from such attacks. The last thing they want to do is kill the people of their newly acquired territory.

As for western Ukraine, the recent wave of attacks that Trump complained about is illustrative. Russia sent over 500 missiles and drones into cities across the country, killing a grand total of 1 (one) civilian. On the same day, Israelis gunned down dozens of unarmed Palestinians seeking food at aid distribution centers in Gaza. For all that our Ukrainian proxies have suffered, they are far better off than the victims of Israel's genocide.

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Russia has killed thousands of innocent civilians, including women and children.

So demolishing historic cities is ok when most (not all) of its citizens are forced to leave?

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"Demolish" is an interesting choice of words. Russians consider Ukrainian history very much a part of their own. I don't see them using controlled demolitions to destroy thousands of buildings, including hospitals, churches, and schools, erasing every trace of indigenous culture, and posting selfies and videos online to celebrate it. Israel is doing all of these things.

The destruction you see in Ukraine is a result of combat. Defenses are set up in apartment buildings, factories, or any other place that provides an advantage. Those positions are attacked, and buildings are damaged or destroyed. It's just old-fashioned urban warfare. Not anything like the systematic destruction of Gaza.

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Hamas uses far more "residential shields" than Ukraine does.

And Russia launching thousands of missiles into Kyiv and other civilian areas has no relation to urban combat.

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There are plenty of military and dual-use targets in those areas.

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Are Hamas military tunnels "military and dual use targets?"

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Yes, and strange to say they remain largely intact despite the civilian carnage. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

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No. It's part and parcel of Israel holding back on killing civilians. There are over 2M people in Gaza. If Israel was down with intentional or byproduct genocide, way more than 50k would be dead right now and even more of the infrastructure would be gone.

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There are probably two to four times that many dead, depending on whose estimates you use. In addition to the infrastructure damage I cited above, water and sanitation are around 5% of pre-war capacity, over 90% of roads are damaged or destroyed, and electricity is minimal to non-existent.

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So Hamas has released all the hostages?

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Are you implying that collective punishment of women and children is justified until the enemy meets your demands?

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No, I'm asking a question.

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Sam Lowry said:

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canoso said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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canoso said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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One for the "pro-lifers."

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You still cool with Russia razing city after city in Ukraine and sending missiles at residential buildings on a daily basis?

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The cases could hardly be more different. Like Israel, Russia issues evacuation orders before attacking a town. But unlike Gazans, the people of Ukraine aren't confined in an open air prison with nowhere to go. They can actually move freely to safety. And unlike the Israelis, the Russians don't bomb them while they're relocating.

There has been indiscriminate, or more often intentional, destruction of residential areas by the Zelensky government. One of the reasons Russia invaded was to protect the Russian population from such attacks. The last thing they want to do is kill the people of their newly acquired territory.

As for western Ukraine, the recent wave of attacks that Trump complained about is illustrative. Russia sent over 500 missiles and drones into cities across the country, killing a grand total of 1 (one) civilian. On the same day, Israelis gunned down dozens of unarmed Palestinians seeking food at aid distribution centers in Gaza. For all that our Ukrainian proxies have suffered, they are far better off than the victims of Israel's genocide.

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Russia has killed thousands of innocent civilians, including women and children.

So demolishing historic cities is ok when most (not all) of its citizens are forced to leave?

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"Demolish" is an interesting choice of words. Russians consider Ukrainian history very much a part of their own. I don't see them using controlled demolitions to destroy thousands of buildings, including hospitals, churches, and schools, erasing every trace of indigenous culture, and posting selfies and videos online to celebrate it. Israel is doing all of these things.

The destruction you see in Ukraine is a result of combat. Defenses are set up in apartment buildings, factories, or any other place that provides an advantage. Those positions are attacked, and buildings are damaged or destroyed. It's just old-fashioned urban warfare. Not anything like the systematic destruction of Gaza.

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Hamas uses far more "residential shields" than Ukraine does.

And Russia launching thousands of missiles into Kyiv and other civilian areas has no relation to urban combat.

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There are plenty of military and dual-use targets in those areas.

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Are Hamas military tunnels "military and dual use targets?"

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Yes, and strange to say they remain largely intact despite the civilian carnage. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

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No. It's part and parcel of Israel holding back on killing civilians. There are over 2M people in Gaza. If Israel was down with intentional or byproduct genocide, way more than 50k would be dead right now and even more of the infrastructure would be gone.

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There are probably two to four times that many dead, depending on whose estimates you use. In addition to the infrastructure damage I cited above, water and sanitation are around 5% of pre-war capacity, over 90% of roads are damaged or destroyed, and electricity is minimal to non-existent.

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So Hamas has released all the hostages?

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Are you implying that collective punishment of women and children is justified until the enemy meets your demands?

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No, I'm asking a question.

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Well, then...let's say they've released all the hostages. Why not?

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canoso said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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canoso said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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canoso said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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One for the "pro-lifers."

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You still cool with Russia razing city after city in Ukraine and sending missiles at residential buildings on a daily basis?

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The cases could hardly be more different. Like Israel, Russia issues evacuation orders before attacking a town. But unlike Gazans, the people of Ukraine aren't confined in an open air prison with nowhere to go. They can actually move freely to safety. And unlike the Israelis, the Russians don't bomb them while they're relocating.

There has been indiscriminate, or more often intentional, destruction of residential areas by the Zelensky government. One of the reasons Russia invaded was to protect the Russian population from such attacks. The last thing they want to do is kill the people of their newly acquired territory.

As for western Ukraine, the recent wave of attacks that Trump complained about is illustrative. Russia sent over 500 missiles and drones into cities across the country, killing a grand total of 1 (one) civilian. On the same day, Israelis gunned down dozens of unarmed Palestinians seeking food at aid distribution centers in Gaza. For all that our Ukrainian proxies have suffered, they are far better off than the victims of Israel's genocide.

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Russia has killed thousands of innocent civilians, including women and children.

So demolishing historic cities is ok when most (not all) of its citizens are forced to leave?

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"Demolish" is an interesting choice of words. Russians consider Ukrainian history very much a part of their own. I don't see them using controlled demolitions to destroy thousands of buildings, including hospitals, churches, and schools, erasing every trace of indigenous culture, and posting selfies and videos online to celebrate it. Israel is doing all of these things.

The destruction you see in Ukraine is a result of combat. Defenses are set up in apartment buildings, factories, or any other place that provides an advantage. Those positions are attacked, and buildings are damaged or destroyed. It's just old-fashioned urban warfare. Not anything like the systematic destruction of Gaza.

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Hamas uses far more "residential shields" than Ukraine does.

And Russia launching thousands of missiles into Kyiv and other civilian areas has no relation to urban combat.

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There are plenty of military and dual-use targets in those areas.

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Are Hamas military tunnels "military and dual use targets?"

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Yes, and strange to say they remain largely intact despite the civilian carnage. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

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No. It's part and parcel of Israel holding back on killing civilians. There are over 2M people in Gaza. If Israel was down with intentional or byproduct genocide, way more than 50k would be dead right now and even more of the infrastructure would be gone.

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There are probably two to four times that many dead, depending on whose estimates you use. In addition to the infrastructure damage I cited above, water and sanitation are around 5% of pre-war capacity, over 90% of roads are damaged or destroyed, and electricity is minimal to non-existent.

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So Hamas has released all the hostages?

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Are you implying that collective punishment of women and children is justified until the enemy meets your demands?

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No, I'm asking a question.

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Well, then...let's say they've released all the hostages. Why not?

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You have been asked a question.

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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One for the "pro-lifers."

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You still cool with Russia razing city after city in Ukraine and sending missiles at residential buildings on a daily basis?

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The cases could hardly be more different. Like Israel, Russia issues evacuation orders before attacking a town. But unlike Gazans, the people of Ukraine aren't confined in an open air prison with nowhere to go. They can actually move freely to safety. And unlike the Israelis, the Russians don't bomb them while they're relocating.

There has been indiscriminate, or more often intentional, destruction of residential areas by the Zelensky government. One of the reasons Russia invaded was to protect the Russian population from such attacks. The last thing they want to do is kill the people of their newly acquired territory.

As for western Ukraine, the recent wave of attacks that Trump complained about is illustrative. Russia sent over 500 missiles and drones into cities across the country, killing a grand total of 1 (one) civilian. On the same day, Israelis gunned down dozens of unarmed Palestinians seeking food at aid distribution centers in Gaza. For all that our Ukrainian proxies have suffered, they are far better off than the victims of Israel's genocide.

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Russia has killed thousands of innocent civilians, including women and children.

So demolishing historic cities is ok when most (not all) of its citizens are forced to leave?

---

"Demolish" is an interesting choice of words. Russians consider Ukrainian history very much a part of their own. I don't see them using controlled demolitions to destroy thousands of buildings, including hospitals, churches, and schools, erasing every trace of indigenous culture, and posting selfies and videos online to celebrate it. Israel is doing all of these things.

The destruction you see in Ukraine is a result of combat. Defenses are set up in apartment buildings, factories, or any other place that provides an advantage. Those positions are attacked, and buildings are damaged or destroyed. It's just old-fashioned urban warfare. Not anything like the systematic destruction of Gaza.

---

Hamas uses far more "residential shields" than Ukraine does.

And Russia launching thousands of missiles into Kyiv and other civilian areas has no relation to urban combat.

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There are plenty of military and dual-use targets in those areas.

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Are Hamas military tunnels "military and dual use targets?"

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Yes, and strange to say they remain largely intact despite the civilian carnage. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

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No. It's part and parcel of Israel holding back on killing civilians. There are over 2M people in Gaza. If Israel was down with intentional or byproduct genocide, way more than 50k would be dead right now and even more of the infrastructure would be gone.

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There are probably two to four times that many dead, depending on whose estimates you use. In addition to the infrastructure damage I cited above, water and sanitation are around 5% of pre-war capacity, over 90% of roads are damaged or destroyed, and electricity is minimal to non-existent.

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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One for the "pro-lifers."

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You still cool with Russia razing city after city in Ukraine and sending missiles at residential buildings on a daily basis?

---

The cases could hardly be more different. Like Israel, Russia issues evacuation orders before attacking a town. But unlike Gazans, the people of Ukraine aren't confined in an open air prison with nowhere to go. They can actually move freely to safety. And unlike the Israelis, the Russians don't bomb them while they're relocating.

There has been indiscriminate, or more often intentional, destruction of residential areas by the Zelensky government. One of the reasons Russia invaded was to protect the Russian population from such attacks. The last thing they want to do is kill the people of their newly acquired territory.

As for western Ukraine, the recent wave of attacks that Trump complained about is illustrative. Russia sent over 500 missiles and drones into cities across the country, killing a grand total of 1 (one) civilian. On the same day, Israelis gunned down dozens of unarmed Palestinians seeking food at aid distribution centers in Gaza. For all that our Ukrainian proxies have suffered, they are far better off than the victims of Israel's genocide.

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Russia has killed thousands of innocent civilians, including women and children.

So demolishing historic cities is ok when most (not all) of its citizens are forced to leave?

---

"Demolish" is an interesting choice of words. Russians consider Ukrainian history very much a part of their own. I don't see them using controlled demolitions to destroy thousands of buildings, including hospitals, churches, and schools, erasing every trace of indigenous culture, and posting selfies and videos online to celebrate it. Israel is doing all of these things.

The destruction you see in Ukraine is a result of combat. Defenses are set up in apartment buildings, factories, or any other place that provides an advantage. Those positions are attacked, and buildings are damaged or destroyed. It's just old-fashioned urban warfare. Not anything like the systematic destruction of Gaza.

---

Hamas uses far more "residential shields" than Ukraine does.

And Russia launching thousands of missiles into Kyiv and other civilian areas has no relation to urban combat.

---

There are plenty of military and dual-use targets in those areas.

---

Are Hamas military tunnels "military and dual use targets?"

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Yes, and strange to say they remain largely intact despite the civilian carnage. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

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No. It's part and parcel of Israel holding back on killing civilians. There are over 2M people in Gaza. If Israel was down with intentional or byproduct genocide, way more than 50k would be dead right now and even more of the infrastructure would be gone.

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There are probably two to four times that many dead, depending on whose estimates you use. In addition to the infrastructure damage I cited above, water and sanitation are around 5% of pre-war capacity, over 90% of roads are damaged or destroyed, and electricity is minimal to non-existent.

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Hamas must really like holding those hostages.

It's a good thing Israel is showing so much restraint.

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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One for the "pro-lifers."

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You still cool with Russia razing city after city in Ukraine and sending missiles at residential buildings on a daily basis?

---

The cases could hardly be more different. Like Israel, Russia issues evacuation orders before attacking a town. But unlike Gazans, the people of Ukraine aren't confined in an open air prison with nowhere to go. They can actually move freely to safety. And unlike the Israelis, the Russians don't bomb them while they're relocating.

There has been indiscriminate, or more often intentional, destruction of residential areas by the Zelensky government. One of the reasons Russia invaded was to protect the Russian population from such attacks. The last thing they want to do is kill the people of their newly acquired territory.

As for western Ukraine, the recent wave of attacks that Trump complained about is illustrative. Russia sent over 500 missiles and drones into cities across the country, killing a grand total of 1 (one) civilian. On the same day, Israelis gunned down dozens of unarmed Palestinians seeking food at aid distribution centers in Gaza. For all that our Ukrainian proxies have suffered, they are far better off than the victims of Israel's genocide.

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Russia has killed thousands of innocent civilians, including women and children.

So demolishing historic cities is ok when most (not all) of its citizens are forced to leave?

---

"Demolish" is an interesting choice of words. Russians consider Ukrainian history very much a part of their own. I don't see them using controlled demolitions to destroy thousands of buildings, including hospitals, churches, and schools, erasing every trace of indigenous culture, and posting selfies and videos online to celebrate it. Israel is doing all of these things.

The destruction you see in Ukraine is a result of combat. Defenses are set up in apartment buildings, factories, or any other place that provides an advantage. Those positions are attacked, and buildings are damaged or destroyed. It's just old-fashioned urban warfare. Not anything like the systematic destruction of Gaza.

---

Hamas uses far more "residential shields" than Ukraine does.

And Russia launching thousands of missiles into Kyiv and other civilian areas has no relation to urban combat.

---

There are plenty of military and dual-use targets in those areas.

---

Are Hamas military tunnels "military and dual use targets?"

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Yes, and strange to say they remain largely intact despite the civilian carnage. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

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No. It's part and parcel of Israel holding back on killing civilians. There are over 2M people in Gaza. If Israel was down with intentional or byproduct genocide, way more than 50k would be dead right now and even more of the infrastructure would be gone.

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There are probably two to four times that many dead, depending on whose estimates you use. In addition to the infrastructure damage I cited above, water and sanitation are around 5% of pre-war capacity, over 90% of roads are damaged or destroyed, and electricity is minimal to non-existent.

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Hamas must really like holding those hostages.

It's a good thing Israel is showing so much restraint.

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Again, Netanyahu has admitted that releasing the hostages will not end the war. He walked away from a deal that would have freed them, much to the outrage of at least some of their families. The hostages have only ever been a pretext for ethnic cleansing.

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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One for the "pro-lifers."

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You still cool with Russia razing city after city in Ukraine and sending missiles at residential buildings on a daily basis?

---

The cases could hardly be more different. Like Israel, Russia issues evacuation orders before attacking a town. But unlike Gazans, the people of Ukraine aren't confined in an open air prison with nowhere to go. They can actually move freely to safety. And unlike the Israelis, the Russians don't bomb them while they're relocating.

There has been indiscriminate, or more often intentional, destruction of residential areas by the Zelensky government. One of the reasons Russia invaded was to protect the Russian population from such attacks. The last thing they want to do is kill the people of their newly acquired territory.

As for western Ukraine, the recent wave of attacks that Trump complained about is illustrative. Russia sent over 500 missiles and drones into cities across the country, killing a grand total of 1 (one) civilian. On the same day, Israelis gunned down dozens of unarmed Palestinians seeking food at aid distribution centers in Gaza. For all that our Ukrainian proxies have suffered, they are far better off than the victims of Israel's genocide.

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Russia has killed thousands of innocent civilians, including women and children.

So demolishing historic cities is ok when most (not all) of its citizens are forced to leave?

---

"Demolish" is an interesting choice of words. Russians consider Ukrainian history very much a part of their own. I don't see them using controlled demolitions to destroy thousands of buildings, including hospitals, churches, and schools, erasing every trace of indigenous culture, and posting selfies and videos online to celebrate it. Israel is doing all of these things.

The destruction you see in Ukraine is a result of combat. Defenses are set up in apartment buildings, factories, or any other place that provides an advantage. Those positions are attacked, and buildings are damaged or destroyed. It's just old-fashioned urban warfare. Not anything like the systematic destruction of Gaza.

---

Hamas uses far more "residential shields" than Ukraine does.

And Russia launching thousands of missiles into Kyiv and other civilian areas has no relation to urban combat.

---

There are plenty of military and dual-use targets in those areas.

---

Are Hamas military tunnels "military and dual use targets?"

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Yes, and strange to say they remain largely intact despite the civilian carnage. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

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No. It's part and parcel of Israel holding back on killing civilians. There are over 2M people in Gaza. If Israel was down with intentional or byproduct genocide, way more than 50k would be dead right now and even more of the infrastructure would be gone.

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There are probably two to four times that many dead, depending on whose estimates you use. In addition to the infrastructure damage I cited above, water and sanitation are around 5% of pre-war capacity, over 90% of roads are damaged or destroyed, and electricity is minimal to non-existent.

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Hamas must really like holding those hostages.

It's a good thing Israel is showing so much restraint.

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Again, Netanyahu has admitted that releasing the hostages will not end the war. He walked away from a deal that would have freed them, much to the outrage of at least some of their families. The hostages have only ever been a pretext for ethnic cleansing.

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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One for the "pro-lifers."

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You still cool with Russia razing city after city in Ukraine and sending missiles at residential buildings on a daily basis?

---

The cases could hardly be more different. Like Israel, Russia issues evacuation orders before attacking a town. But unlike Gazans, the people of Ukraine aren't confined in an open air prison with nowhere to go. They can actually move freely to safety. And unlike the Israelis, the Russians don't bomb them while they're relocating.

There has been indiscriminate, or more often intentional, destruction of residential areas by the Zelensky government. One of the reasons Russia invaded was to protect the Russian population from such attacks. The last thing they want to do is kill the people of their newly acquired territory.

As for western Ukraine, the recent wave of attacks that Trump complained about is illustrative. Russia sent over 500 missiles and drones into cities across the country, killing a grand total of 1 (one) civilian. On the same day, Israelis gunned down dozens of unarmed Palestinians seeking food at aid distribution centers in Gaza. For all that our Ukrainian proxies have suffered, they are far better off than the victims of Israel's genocide.

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Russia has killed thousands of innocent civilians, including women and children.

So demolishing historic cities is ok when most (not all) of its citizens are forced to leave?

---

"Demolish" is an interesting choice of words. Russians consider Ukrainian history very much a part of their own. I don't see them using controlled demolitions to destroy thousands of buildings, including hospitals, churches, and schools, erasing every trace of indigenous culture, and posting selfies and videos online to celebrate it. Israel is doing all of these things.

The destruction you see in Ukraine is a result of combat. Defenses are set up in apartment buildings, factories, or any other place that provides an advantage. Those positions are attacked, and buildings are damaged or destroyed. It's just old-fashioned urban warfare. Not anything like the systematic destruction of Gaza.

---

Hamas uses far more "residential shields" than Ukraine does.

And Russia launching thousands of missiles into Kyiv and other civilian areas has no relation to urban combat.

---

There are plenty of military and dual-use targets in those areas.

---

Are Hamas military tunnels "military and dual use targets?"

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Yes, and strange to say they remain largely intact despite the civilian carnage. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

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No. It's part and parcel of Israel holding back on killing civilians. There are over 2M people in Gaza. If Israel was down with intentional or byproduct genocide, way more than 50k would be dead right now and even more of the infrastructure would be gone.

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There are probably two to four times that many dead, depending on whose estimates you use. In addition to the infrastructure damage I cited above, water and sanitation are around 5% of pre-war capacity, over 90% of roads are damaged or destroyed, and electricity is minimal to non-existent.

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Hamas must really like holding those hostages.

It's a good thing Israel is showing so much restraint.

---

Again, Netanyahu has admitted that releasing the hostages will not end the war. He walked away from a deal that would have freed them, much to the outrage of at least some of their families. The hostages have only ever been a pretext for ethnic cleansing.

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The deal did not remove Hamas from power in Gaza.

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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One for the "pro-lifers."

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You still cool with Russia razing city after city in Ukraine and sending missiles at residential buildings on a daily basis?

---

The cases could hardly be more different. Like Israel, Russia issues evacuation orders before attacking a town. But unlike Gazans, the people of Ukraine aren't confined in an open air prison with nowhere to go. They can actually move freely to safety. And unlike the Israelis, the Russians don't bomb them while they're relocating.

There has been indiscriminate, or more often intentional, destruction of residential areas by the Zelensky government. One of the reasons Russia invaded was to protect the Russian population from such attacks. The last thing they want to do is kill the people of their newly acquired territory.

As for western Ukraine, the recent wave of attacks that Trump complained about is illustrative. Russia sent over 500 missiles and drones into cities across the country, killing a grand total of 1 (one) civilian. On the same day, Israelis gunned down dozens of unarmed Palestinians seeking food at aid distribution centers in Gaza. For all that our Ukrainian proxies have suffered, they are far better off than the victims of Israel's genocide.

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Russia has killed thousands of innocent civilians, including women and children.

So demolishing historic cities is ok when most (not all) of its citizens are forced to leave?

---

"Demolish" is an interesting choice of words. Russians consider Ukrainian history very much a part of their own. I don't see them using controlled demolitions to destroy thousands of buildings, including hospitals, churches, and schools, erasing every trace of indigenous culture, and posting selfies and videos online to celebrate it. Israel is doing all of these things.

The destruction you see in Ukraine is a result of combat. Defenses are set up in apartment buildings, factories, or any other place that provides an advantage. Those positions are attacked, and buildings are damaged or destroyed. It's just old-fashioned urban warfare. Not anything like the systematic destruction of Gaza.

---

Hamas uses far more "residential shields" than Ukraine does.

And Russia launching thousands of missiles into Kyiv and other civilian areas has no relation to urban combat.

---

There are plenty of military and dual-use targets in those areas.

---

Are Hamas military tunnels "military and dual use targets?"

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Yes, and strange to say they remain largely intact despite the civilian carnage. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

---

No. It's part and parcel of Israel holding back on killing civilians. There are over 2M people in Gaza. If Israel was down with intentional or byproduct genocide, way more than 50k would be dead right now and even more of the infrastructure would be gone.

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There are probably two to four times that many dead, depending on whose estimates you use. In addition to the infrastructure damage I cited above, water and sanitation are around 5% of pre-war capacity, over 90% of roads are damaged or destroyed, and electricity is minimal to non-existent.

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Hamas must really like holding those hostages.

It's a good thing Israel is showing so much restraint.

---

Again, Netanyahu has admitted that releasing the hostages will not end the war. He walked away from a deal that would have freed them, much to the outrage of at least some of their families. The hostages have only ever been a pretext for ethnic cleansing.

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The deal did not remove Hamas from power in Gaza.

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That wasn't the question. If you want to starve women and children until the hostages are released, that's one thing. If you want to starve them until Hamas is removed from power, that's another.

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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One for the "pro-lifers."

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You still cool with Russia razing city after city in Ukraine and sending missiles at residential buildings on a daily basis?

---

The cases could hardly be more different. Like Israel, Russia issues evacuation orders before attacking a town. But unlike Gazans, the people of Ukraine aren't confined in an open air prison with nowhere to go. They can actually move freely to safety. And unlike the Israelis, the Russians don't bomb them while they're relocating.

There has been indiscriminate, or more often intentional, destruction of residential areas by the Zelensky government. One of the reasons Russia invaded was to protect the Russian population from such attacks. The last thing they want to do is kill the people of their newly acquired territory.

As for western Ukraine, the recent wave of attacks that Trump complained about is illustrative. Russia sent over 500 missiles and drones into cities across the country, killing a grand total of 1 (one) civilian. On the same day, Israelis gunned down dozens of unarmed Palestinians seeking food at aid distribution centers in Gaza. For all that our Ukrainian proxies have suffered, they are far better off than the victims of Israel's genocide.

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Russia has killed thousands of innocent civilians, including women and children.

So demolishing historic cities is ok when most (not all) of its citizens are forced to leave?

---

"Demolish" is an interesting choice of words. Russians consider Ukrainian history very much a part of their own. I don't see them using controlled demolitions to destroy thousands of buildings, including hospitals, churches, and schools, erasing every trace of indigenous culture, and posting selfies and videos online to celebrate it. Israel is doing all of these things.

The destruction you see in Ukraine is a result of combat. Defenses are set up in apartment buildings, factories, or any other place that provides an advantage. Those positions are attacked, and buildings are damaged or destroyed. It's just old-fashioned urban warfare. Not anything like the systematic destruction of Gaza.

---

Hamas uses far more "residential shields" than Ukraine does.

And Russia launching thousands of missiles into Kyiv and other civilian areas has no relation to urban combat.

---

There are plenty of military and dual-use targets in those areas.

---

Are Hamas military tunnels "military and dual use targets?"

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Yes, and strange to say they remain largely intact despite the civilian carnage. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

---

No. It's part and parcel of Israel holding back on killing civilians. There are over 2M people in Gaza. If Israel was down with intentional or byproduct genocide, way more than 50k would be dead right now and even more of the infrastructure would be gone.

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There are probably two to four times that many dead, depending on whose estimates you use. In addition to the infrastructure damage I cited above, water and sanitation are around 5% of pre-war capacity, over 90% of roads are damaged or destroyed, and electricity is minimal to non-existent.

---

Hamas must really like holding those hostages.

It's a good thing Israel is showing so much restraint.

---

Again, Netanyahu has admitted that releasing the hostages will not end the war. He walked away from a deal that would have freed them, much to the outrage of at least some of their families. The hostages have only ever been a pretext for ethnic cleansing.

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The deal did not remove Hamas from power in Gaza.

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That wasn't the question. If you want to starve women and children until the hostages are released, that's one thing. If you want to starve them until Hamas is removed from power, that's another.

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You brought up Netanyahu not accepting a deal. You just left out why.

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Assassin said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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One for the "pro-lifers."

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You still cool with Russia razing city after city in Ukraine and sending missiles at residential buildings on a daily basis?

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The cases could hardly be more different. Like Israel, Russia issues evacuation orders before attacking a town. But unlike Gazans, the people of Ukraine aren't confined in an open air prison with nowhere to go. They can actually move freely to safety. And unlike the Israelis, the Russians don't bomb them while they're relocating.

There has been indiscriminate, or more often intentional, destruction of residential areas by the Zelensky government. One of the reasons Russia invaded was to protect the Russian population from such attacks. The last thing they want to do is kill the people of their newly acquired territory.

As for western Ukraine, the recent wave of attacks that Trump complained about is illustrative. Russia sent over 500 missiles and drones into cities across the country, killing a grand total of 1 (one) civilian. On the same day, Israelis gunned down dozens of unarmed Palestinians seeking food at aid distribution centers in Gaza. For all that our Ukrainian proxies have suffered, they are far better off than the victims of Israel's genocide.

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Russia has killed thousands of innocent civilians, including women and children.

So demolishing historic cities is ok when most (not all) of its citizens are forced to leave?

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"Demolish" is an interesting choice of words. Russians consider Ukrainian history very much a part of their own. I don't see them using controlled demolitions to destroy thousands of buildings, including hospitals, churches, and schools, erasing every trace of indigenous culture, and posting selfies and videos online to celebrate it. Israel is doing all of these things.

The destruction you see in Ukraine is a result of combat. Defenses are set up in apartment buildings, factories, or any other place that provides an advantage. Those positions are attacked, and buildings are damaged or destroyed. It's just old-fashioned urban warfare. Not anything like the systematic destruction of Gaza.

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Hamas uses far more "residential shields" than Ukraine does.

And Russia launching thousands of missiles into Kyiv and other civilian areas has no relation to urban combat.

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There are plenty of military and dual-use targets in those areas.

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Are Hamas military tunnels "military and dual use targets?"

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Yes, and strange to say they remain largely intact despite the civilian carnage. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

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No. It's part and parcel of Israel holding back on killing civilians. There are over 2M people in Gaza. If Israel was down with intentional or byproduct genocide, way more than 50k would be dead right now and even more of the infrastructure would be gone.

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There are probably two to four times that many dead, depending on whose estimates you use. In addition to the infrastructure damage I cited above, water and sanitation are around 5% of pre-war capacity, over 90% of roads are damaged or destroyed, and electricity is minimal to non-existent.

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Hamas must really like holding those hostages.

It's a good thing Israel is showing so much restraint.

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Again, Netanyahu has admitted that releasing the hostages will not end the war. He walked away from a deal that would have freed them, much to the outrage of at least some of their families. The hostages have only ever been a pretext for ethnic cleansing.

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Sam, now you are trusting Hamas to keep its word?

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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One for the "pro-lifers."

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You still cool with Russia razing city after city in Ukraine and sending missiles at residential buildings on a daily basis?

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The cases could hardly be more different. Like Israel, Russia issues evacuation orders before attacking a town. But unlike Gazans, the people of Ukraine aren't confined in an open air prison with nowhere to go. They can actually move freely to safety. And unlike the Israelis, the Russians don't bomb them while they're relocating.

There has been indiscriminate, or more often intentional, destruction of residential areas by the Zelensky government. One of the reasons Russia invaded was to protect the Russian population from such attacks. The last thing they want to do is kill the people of their newly acquired territory.

As for western Ukraine, the recent wave of attacks that Trump complained about is illustrative. Russia sent over 500 missiles and drones into cities across the country, killing a grand total of 1 (one) civilian. On the same day, Israelis gunned down dozens of unarmed Palestinians seeking food at aid distribution centers in Gaza. For all that our Ukrainian proxies have suffered, they are far better off than the victims of Israel's genocide.

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Russia has killed thousands of innocent civilians, including women and children.

So demolishing historic cities is ok when most (not all) of its citizens are forced to leave?

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"Demolish" is an interesting choice of words. Russians consider Ukrainian history very much a part of their own. I don't see them using controlled demolitions to destroy thousands of buildings, including hospitals, churches, and schools, erasing every trace of indigenous culture, and posting selfies and videos online to celebrate it. Israel is doing all of these things.

The destruction you see in Ukraine is a result of combat. Defenses are set up in apartment buildings, factories, or any other place that provides an advantage. Those positions are attacked, and buildings are damaged or destroyed. It's just old-fashioned urban warfare. Not anything like the systematic destruction of Gaza.

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Hamas uses far more "residential shields" than Ukraine does.

And Russia launching thousands of missiles into Kyiv and other civilian areas has no relation to urban combat.

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There are plenty of military and dual-use targets in those areas.

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Are Hamas military tunnels "military and dual use targets?"

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Yes, and strange to say they remain largely intact despite the civilian carnage. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

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No. It's part and parcel of Israel holding back on killing civilians. There are over 2M people in Gaza. If Israel was down with intentional or byproduct genocide, way more than 50k would be dead right now and even more of the infrastructure would be gone.

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There are probably two to four times that many dead, depending on whose estimates you use. In addition to the infrastructure damage I cited above, water and sanitation are around 5% of pre-war capacity, over 90% of roads are damaged or destroyed, and electricity is minimal to non-existent.

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Hamas must really like holding those hostages.

It's a good thing Israel is showing so much restraint.

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Again, Netanyahu has admitted that releasing the hostages will not end the war.

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If anyone is starving women and children in Gaza it is Hamas. They use food as a weapon stealing the food brought in as aid & then selling it to the people at exorbitant prices. They control much of the distribution and prevent much food from to getting to the people.

The infamous photo of the starving children published by the NYT was a lie: propaganda to help the terrorists. The fascist media are as radically antisemitic as the terrorist barbarians.

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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One for the "pro-lifers."

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You still cool with Russia razing city after city in Ukraine and sending missiles at residential buildings on a daily basis?

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The cases could hardly be more different. Like Israel, Russia issues evacuation orders before attacking a town. But unlike Gazans, the people of Ukraine aren't confined in an open air prison with nowhere to go. They can actually move freely to safety. And unlike the Israelis, the Russians don't bomb them while they're relocating.

There has been indiscriminate, or more often intentional, destruction of residential areas by the Zelensky government. One of the reasons Russia invaded was to protect the Russian population from such attacks. The last thing they want to do is kill the people of their newly acquired territory.

As for western Ukraine, the recent wave of attacks that Trump complained about is illustrative. Russia sent over 500 missiles and drones into cities across the country, killing a grand total of 1 (one) civilian. On the same day, Israelis gunned down dozens of unarmed Palestinians seeking food at aid distribution centers in Gaza. For all that our Ukrainian proxies have suffered, they are far better off than the victims of Israel's genocide.

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Russia has killed thousands of innocent civilians, including women and children.

So demolishing historic cities is ok when most (not all) of its citizens are forced to leave?

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"Demolish" is an interesting choice of words. Russians consider Ukrainian history very much a part of their own. I don't see them using controlled demolitions to destroy thousands of buildings, including hospitals, churches, and schools, erasing every trace of indigenous culture, and posting selfies and videos online to celebrate it. Israel is doing all of these things.

The destruction you see in Ukraine is a result of combat. Defenses are set up in apartment buildings, factories, or any other place that provides an advantage. Those positions are attacked, and buildings are damaged or destroyed. It's just old-fashioned urban warfare. Not anything like the systematic destruction of Gaza.

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Hamas uses far more "residential shields" than Ukraine does.

And Russia launching thousands of missiles into Kyiv and other civilian areas has no relation to urban combat.

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There are plenty of military and dual-use targets in those areas.

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Are Hamas military tunnels "military and dual use targets?"

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Yes, and strange to say they remain largely intact despite the civilian carnage. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

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No. It's part and parcel of Israel holding back on killing civilians. There are over 2M people in Gaza. If Israel was down with intentional or byproduct genocide, way more than 50k would be dead right now and even more of the infrastructure would be gone.

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There are probably two to four times that many dead, depending on whose estimates you use. In addition to the infrastructure damage I cited above, water and sanitation are around 5% of pre-war capacity, over 90% of roads are damaged or destroyed, and electricity is minimal to non-existent.

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Hamas must really like holding those hostages.

It's a good thing Israel is showing so much restraint.

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Again, Netanyahu has admitted that releasing the hostages will not end the war.

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I bet if they release the hostages, this would be over pretty quickly. But of course there's only one way to find out. Why not release the hostages?

And if this was an ethnic cleansing, most Gazans would be dead, not alive.

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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One for the "pro-lifers."

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You still cool with Russia razing city after city in Ukraine and sending missiles at residential buildings on a daily basis?

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The cases could hardly be more different. Like Israel, Russia issues evacuation orders before attacking a town. But unlike Gazans, the people of Ukraine aren't confined in an open air prison with nowhere to go. They can actually move freely to safety. And unlike the Israelis, the Russians don't bomb them while they're relocating.

There has been indiscriminate, or more often intentional, destruction of residential areas by the Zelensky government. One of the reasons Russia invaded was to protect the Russian population from such attacks. The last thing they want to do is kill the people of their newly acquired territory.

As for western Ukraine, the recent wave of attacks that Trump complained about is illustrative. Russia sent over 500 missiles and drones into cities across the country, killing a grand total of 1 (one) civilian. On the same day, Israelis gunned down dozens of unarmed Palestinians seeking food at aid distribution centers in Gaza. For all that our Ukrainian proxies have suffered, they are far better off than the victims of Israel's genocide.

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Russia has killed thousands of innocent civilians, including women and children.

So demolishing historic cities is ok when most (not all) of its citizens are forced to leave?

---

"Demolish" is an interesting choice of words. Russians consider Ukrainian history very much a part of their own. I don't see them using controlled demolitions to destroy thousands of buildings, including hospitals, churches, and schools, erasing every trace of indigenous culture, and posting selfies and videos online to celebrate it. Israel is doing all of these things.

The destruction you see in Ukraine is a result of combat. Defenses are set up in apartment buildings, factories, or any other place that provides an advantage. Those positions are attacked, and buildings are damaged or destroyed. It's just old-fashioned urban warfare. Not anything like the systematic destruction of Gaza.

---

Hamas uses far more "residential shields" than Ukraine does.

And Russia launching thousands of missiles into Kyiv and other civilian areas has no relation to urban combat.

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There are plenty of military and dual-use targets in those areas.

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Are Hamas military tunnels "military and dual use targets?"

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Yes, and strange to say they remain largely intact despite the civilian carnage. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

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No. It's part and parcel of Israel holding back on killing civilians. There are over 2M people in Gaza. If Israel was down with intentional or byproduct genocide, way more than 50k would be dead right now and even more of the infrastructure would be gone.

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There are probably two to four times that many dead, depending on whose estimates you use. In addition to the infrastructure damage I cited above, water and sanitation are around 5% of pre-war capacity, over 90% of roads are damaged or destroyed, and electricity is minimal to non-existent.

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Hamas must really like holding those hostages.

It's a good thing Israel is showing so much restraint.

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Again, Netanyahu has admitted that releasing the hostages will not end the war.

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I bet if they release the hostages, this would be over pretty quickly. But of course there's only one way to find out. Why not release the hostages?

And if this was an ethnic cleansing, most Gazans would be dead, not alive.

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Really? That's interesting. I didn't realize it was an overnight process.

Anyway, don't worry. Many more will die once the famine reaches a tipping point.

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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One for the "pro-lifers."

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You still cool with Russia razing city after city in Ukraine and sending missiles at residential buildings on a daily basis?

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The cases could hardly be more different. Like Israel, Russia issues evacuation orders before attacking a town. But unlike Gazans, the people of Ukraine aren't confined in an open air prison with nowhere to go. They can actually move freely to safety. And unlike the Israelis, the Russians don't bomb them while they're relocating.

There has been indiscriminate, or more often intentional, destruction of residential areas by the Zelensky government. One of the reasons Russia invaded was to protect the Russian population from such attacks. The last thing they want to do is kill the people of their newly acquired territory.

As for western Ukraine, the recent wave of attacks that Trump complained about is illustrative. Russia sent over 500 missiles and drones into cities across the country, killing a grand total of 1 (one) civilian. On the same day, Israelis gunned down dozens of unarmed Palestinians seeking food at aid distribution centers in Gaza. For all that our Ukrainian proxies have suffered, they are far better off than the victims of Israel's genocide.

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Russia has killed thousands of innocent civilians, including women and children.

So demolishing historic cities is ok when most (not all) of its citizens are forced to leave?

---

"Demolish" is an interesting choice of words. Russians consider Ukrainian history very much a part of their own. I don't see them using controlled demolitions to destroy thousands of buildings, including hospitals, churches, and schools, erasing every trace of indigenous culture, and posting selfies and videos online to celebrate it. Israel is doing all of these things.

The destruction you see in Ukraine is a result of combat. Defenses are set up in apartment buildings, factories, or any other place that provides an advantage. Those positions are attacked, and buildings are damaged or destroyed. It's just old-fashioned urban warfare. Not anything like the systematic destruction of Gaza.

---

Hamas uses far more "residential shields" than Ukraine does.

And Russia launching thousands of missiles into Kyiv and other civilian areas has no relation to urban combat.

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There are plenty of military and dual-use targets in those areas.

---

Are Hamas military tunnels "military and dual use targets?"

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Yes, and strange to say they remain largely intact despite the civilian carnage. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

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No. It's part and parcel of Israel holding back on killing civilians. There are over 2M people in Gaza. If Israel was down with intentional or byproduct genocide, way more than 50k would be dead right now and even more of the infrastructure would be gone.

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There are probably two to four times that many dead, depending on whose estimates you use. In addition to the infrastructure damage I cited above, water and sanitation are around 5% of pre-war capacity, over 90% of roads are damaged or destroyed, and electricity is minimal to non-existent.

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Hamas must really like holding those hostages.

It's a good thing Israel is showing so much restraint.

---

Again, Netanyahu has admitted that releasing the hostages will not end the war. He walked away from a deal that would have freed them, much to the outrage of at least some of their families. The hostages have only ever been a pretext for ethnic cleansing.

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The deal did not remove Hamas from power in Gaza.

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That wasn't the question. If you want to starve women and children until the hostages are released, that's one thing. If you want to starve them until Hamas is removed from power, that's another.

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You brought up Netanyahu not accepting a deal. You just left out why.

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Well, then let me spell it out. It's because getting the hostages released is the lowest of all his priorities.

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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One for the "pro-lifers."

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You still cool with Russia razing city after city in Ukraine and sending missiles at residential buildings on a daily basis?

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The cases could hardly be more different. Like Israel, Russia issues evacuation orders before attacking a town. But unlike Gazans, the people of Ukraine aren't confined in an open air prison with nowhere to go. They can actually move freely to safety. And unlike the Israelis, the Russians don't bomb them while they're relocating.

There has been indiscriminate, or more often intentional, destruction of residential areas by the Zelensky government. One of the reasons Russia invaded was to protect the Russian population from such attacks. The last thing they want to do is kill the people of their newly acquired territory.

As for western Ukraine, the recent wave of attacks that Trump complained about is illustrative. Russia sent over 500 missiles and drones into cities across the country, killing a grand total of 1 (one) civilian. On the same day, Israelis gunned down dozens of unarmed Palestinians seeking food at aid distribution centers in Gaza. For all that our Ukrainian proxies have suffered, they are far better off than the victims of Israel's genocide.

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Russia has killed thousands of innocent civilians, including women and children.

So demolishing historic cities is ok when most (not all) of its citizens are forced to leave?

---

"Demolish" is an interesting choice of words. Russians consider Ukrainian history very much a part of their own. I don't see them using controlled demolitions to destroy thousands of buildings, including hospitals, churches, and schools, erasing every trace of indigenous culture, and posting selfies and videos online to celebrate it. Israel is doing all of these things.

The destruction you see in Ukraine is a result of combat. Defenses are set up in apartment buildings, factories, or any other place that provides an advantage. Those positions are attacked, and buildings are damaged or destroyed. It's just old-fashioned urban warfare. Not anything like the systematic destruction of Gaza.

---

Hamas uses far more "residential shields" than Ukraine does.

And Russia launching thousands of missiles into Kyiv and other civilian areas has no relation to urban combat.

---

There are plenty of military and dual-use targets in those areas.

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Are Hamas military tunnels "military and dual use targets?"

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Yes, and strange to say they remain largely intact despite the civilian carnage. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

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No. It's part and parcel of Israel holding back on killing civilians. There are over 2M people in Gaza. If Israel was down with intentional or byproduct genocide, way more than 50k would be dead right now and even more of the infrastructure would be gone.

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There are probably two to four times that many dead, depending on whose estimates you use. In addition to the infrastructure damage I cited above, water and sanitation are around 5% of pre-war capacity, over 90% of roads are damaged or destroyed, and electricity is minimal to non-existent.

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Hamas must really like holding those hostages.

It's a good thing Israel is showing so much restraint.

---

Again, Netanyahu has admitted that releasing the hostages will not end the war. He walked away from a deal that would have freed them, much to the outrage of at least some of their families. The hostages have only ever been a pretext for ethnic cleansing.

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The deal did not remove Hamas from power in Gaza.

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That wasn't the question. If you want to starve women and children until the hostages are released, that's one thing. If you want to starve them until Hamas is removed from power, that's another.

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You brought up Netanyahu not accepting a deal. You just left out why.

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Well, then let me spell it out. It's because getting the hostages released is the lowest of all his priorities.

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Now you are making things up. You want him to negotiate with terrorists to let them stay and try again.

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