This is the worse genocide ever:
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/state-of-palestine-population/
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/state-of-palestine-population/
EatMoreSalmon said:
This thread is a perfect example of Sam's insistence on a narrative over reality. It should be required reading for anyone falling for his narratives on any other thread.
Sam Lowry said:EatMoreSalmon said:
This thread is a perfect example of Sam's insistence on a narrative over reality. It should be required reading for anyone falling for his narratives on any other thread.
You realize the findings of the relevant UN authorities are against you on this one too, right?
Harrison Bergeron said:Sam Lowry said:EatMoreSalmon said:
This thread is a perfect example of Sam's insistence on a narrative over reality. It should be required reading for anyone falling for his narratives on any other thread.
You realize the findings of the relevant UN authorities are against you on this one too, right?
Are you ready to declare Worldometers DEBUNKED!
(it cites U.N. data so in which instance is the U.N. lying)
Sam Lowry said:EatMoreSalmon said:
This thread is a perfect example of Sam's insistence on a narrative over reality. It should be required reading for anyone falling for his narratives on any other thread.
You realize the findings of the relevant UN authorities are against you on this one too, right?
EatMoreSalmon said:Sam Lowry said:EatMoreSalmon said:
This thread is a perfect example of Sam's insistence on a narrative over reality. It should be required reading for anyone falling for his narratives on any other thread.
You realize the findings of the relevant UN authorities are against you on this one too, right?
While the war was raging in 2024.
Since then there has been no evidence there ever was a genocide or even widespread starvation.
It is time to put that to rest.
Quote:
The Commission concludes on reasonable grounds that the Israeli authorities and Israeli security forces have committed and are continuing to commit...genocide against the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.
The Commission finds that Israel used starvation as a method of warfare by imposing a total siege on Gaza and blocking humanitarian aid from entering into Gaza. It is important to note that Palestinians in Gaza have continued to suffer the effects of the total siege, which encompassed the cutting of food and water, fuel, electricity and medical supplies into Gaza, even after occasions when Israel permitted very limited humanitarian aid to enter. At no time has the aid been adequate to sustain life in Gaza.
Sam Lowry said:EatMoreSalmon said:Sam Lowry said:EatMoreSalmon said:
This thread is a perfect example of Sam's insistence on a narrative over reality. It should be required reading for anyone falling for his narratives on any other thread.
You realize the findings of the relevant UN authorities are against you on this one too, right?
While the war was raging in 2024.
Since then there has been no evidence there ever was a genocide or even widespread starvation.
It is time to put that to rest.
From the latest UNHRC report, September 2025:Quote:
The Commission concludes on reasonable grounds that the Israeli authorities and Israeli security forces have committed and are continuing to commit...genocide against the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.
The Commission finds that Israel used starvation as a method of warfare by imposing a total siege on Gaza and blocking humanitarian aid from entering into Gaza. It is important to note that Palestinians in Gaza have continued to suffer the effects of the total siege, which encompassed the cutting of food and water, fuel, electricity and medical supplies into Gaza, even after occasions when Israel permitted very limited humanitarian aid to enter. At no time has the aid been adequate to sustain life in Gaza.
Sam Lowry said:EatMoreSalmon said:Sam Lowry said:EatMoreSalmon said:
This thread is a perfect example of Sam's insistence on a narrative over reality. It should be required reading for anyone falling for his narratives on any other thread.
You realize the findings of the relevant UN authorities are against you on this one too, right?
While the war was raging in 2024.
Since then there has been no evidence there ever was a genocide or even widespread starvation.
It is time to put that to rest.
From the latest UNHRC report, September 2025:Quote:
The Commission concludes on reasonable grounds that the Israeli authorities and Israeli security forces have committed and are continuing to commit...genocide against the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.
The Commission finds that Israel used starvation as a method of warfare by imposing a total siege on Gaza and blocking humanitarian aid from entering into Gaza. It is important to note that Palestinians in Gaza have continued to suffer the effects of the total siege, which encompassed the cutting of food and water, fuel, electricity and medical supplies into Gaza, even after occasions when Israel permitted very limited humanitarian aid to enter. At no time has the aid been adequate to sustain life in Gaza.
EatMoreSalmon said:Sam Lowry said:EatMoreSalmon said:Sam Lowry said:EatMoreSalmon said:
This thread is a perfect example of Sam's insistence on a narrative over reality. It should be required reading for anyone falling for his narratives on any other thread.
You realize the findings of the relevant UN authorities are against you on this one too, right?
While the war was raging in 2024.
Since then there has been no evidence there ever was a genocide or even widespread starvation.
It is time to put that to rest.
From the latest UNHRC report, September 2025:Quote:
The Commission concludes on reasonable grounds that the Israeli authorities and Israeli security forces have committed and are continuing to commit...genocide against the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.
The Commission finds that Israel used starvation as a method of warfare by imposing a total siege on Gaza and blocking humanitarian aid from entering into Gaza. It is important to note that Palestinians in Gaza have continued to suffer the effects of the total siege, which encompassed the cutting of food and water, fuel, electricity and medical supplies into Gaza, even after occasions when Israel permitted very limited humanitarian aid to enter. At no time has the aid been adequate to sustain life in Gaza.
The UN human rights council history on the US
Historical Overview & Key Themes
Foundation (1940s-1950s): The US was instrumental in creating the UN Commission on Human Rights (replaced by the Council in 2006) and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Eleanor Roosevelt served as the first chairperson.
Ambivalent Participation: The US has often maintained an ambivalent approach to UN human rights treaties, frequently signing but not ratifying, or heavily qualifying its support, particularly regarding economic and social rights.
Recent Focus Areas: In the 2020s, reports have focused heavily on systemic racism, police brutality, immigrant rights, and the reversal of reproductive rights.
On Poland:
UN Human Rights Council (UNHRC) reporting on Poland has increased in intensity since 2015, focusing heavily on judicial independence, women's rights, LGBTQ+ rights, and the rule of law through the Universal Periodic Review (UPR) and Special Procedures. Poland has undergone four UPR cycles (2008, 2012, 2017, and 2022).
Key Areas of Concern in UN Reports (20152026)
Judicial Independence: Reports have expressed consistent concern over reforms to the Polish judiciary since 2015, noting a crisis in the rule of law and risks to the separation of powers.
Women's Rights: The UN Committee on the Elimination of Discrimination Against Women (CEDAW) and other bodies have criticized the severe restrictions on abortion access, finding they violate fundamental human rights.
LGBTQ+ Rights: UN experts have raised alarms over anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric from officials, the establishment of "LGBT-free zones" by local municipalities, and a lack of protection against hate crimes.
Rule of Law: The UN and Council of Europe have highlighted the erosion of democratic checks and balances, particularly concerning the Constitutional Tribunal.
Media Freedom: Reports have flagged government interference with public media and intimidation of independent journalists.
Migration and Asylum: Concerns have been raised about rights violations at the Polish-Belarusian border, including the restriction of access to asylum.
Mandate Criticism:
The UNHRC has often been criticized, particularly by Israel, for its focus on Israeli actions. The current Commission of Inquiry (established in 2021) has a permanent mandate, which some, such as UN Watch Database, argue frequently ignores or minimizes violations committed by Hamas and the Palestinian Authority.
Recent Findings: Despite criticisms of bias, the 2024 report explicitly identified widespread sexual violence and "cruel treatment" as war crimes committed by Hamas.Humanitarian Concerns: Reports have regularly accused all parties of contributing to the dire human rights situation in Gaza.
(Notice it took 8 months for the council to cite the very public attacks by Hamas on October 7, 2023.)
The Human Rights Council leaves much more to be desired than the IAEA. Its mission has obviously morphed left politically. It should be examined for bias in that respect, and for bias against and for certain countries and organizations.
Sam Lowry said:EatMoreSalmon said:Sam Lowry said:EatMoreSalmon said:Sam Lowry said:EatMoreSalmon said:
This thread is a perfect example of Sam's insistence on a narrative over reality. It should be required reading for anyone falling for his narratives on any other thread.
You realize the findings of the relevant UN authorities are against you on this one too, right?
While the war was raging in 2024.
Since then there has been no evidence there ever was a genocide or even widespread starvation.
It is time to put that to rest.
From the latest UNHRC report, September 2025:Quote:
The Commission concludes on reasonable grounds that the Israeli authorities and Israeli security forces have committed and are continuing to commit...genocide against the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.
The Commission finds that Israel used starvation as a method of warfare by imposing a total siege on Gaza and blocking humanitarian aid from entering into Gaza. It is important to note that Palestinians in Gaza have continued to suffer the effects of the total siege, which encompassed the cutting of food and water, fuel, electricity and medical supplies into Gaza, even after occasions when Israel permitted very limited humanitarian aid to enter. At no time has the aid been adequate to sustain life in Gaza.
The UN human rights council history on the US
Historical Overview & Key Themes
Foundation (1940s-1950s): The US was instrumental in creating the UN Commission on Human Rights (replaced by the Council in 2006) and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Eleanor Roosevelt served as the first chairperson.
Ambivalent Participation: The US has often maintained an ambivalent approach to UN human rights treaties, frequently signing but not ratifying, or heavily qualifying its support, particularly regarding economic and social rights.
Recent Focus Areas: In the 2020s, reports have focused heavily on systemic racism, police brutality, immigrant rights, and the reversal of reproductive rights.
On Poland:
UN Human Rights Council (UNHRC) reporting on Poland has increased in intensity since 2015, focusing heavily on judicial independence, women's rights, LGBTQ+ rights, and the rule of law through the Universal Periodic Review (UPR) and Special Procedures. Poland has undergone four UPR cycles (2008, 2012, 2017, and 2022).
Key Areas of Concern in UN Reports (20152026)
Judicial Independence: Reports have expressed consistent concern over reforms to the Polish judiciary since 2015, noting a crisis in the rule of law and risks to the separation of powers.
Women's Rights: The UN Committee on the Elimination of Discrimination Against Women (CEDAW) and other bodies have criticized the severe restrictions on abortion access, finding they violate fundamental human rights.
LGBTQ+ Rights: UN experts have raised alarms over anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric from officials, the establishment of "LGBT-free zones" by local municipalities, and a lack of protection against hate crimes.
Rule of Law: The UN and Council of Europe have highlighted the erosion of democratic checks and balances, particularly concerning the Constitutional Tribunal.
Media Freedom: Reports have flagged government interference with public media and intimidation of independent journalists.
Migration and Asylum: Concerns have been raised about rights violations at the Polish-Belarusian border, including the restriction of access to asylum.
Mandate Criticism:
The UNHRC has often been criticized, particularly by Israel, for its focus on Israeli actions. The current Commission of Inquiry (established in 2021) has a permanent mandate, which some, such as UN Watch Database, argue frequently ignores or minimizes violations committed by Hamas and the Palestinian Authority.
Recent Findings: Despite criticisms of bias, the 2024 report explicitly identified widespread sexual violence and "cruel treatment" as war crimes committed by Hamas.Humanitarian Concerns: Reports have regularly accused all parties of contributing to the dire human rights situation in Gaza.
(Notice it took 8 months for the council to cite the very public attacks by Hamas on October 7, 2023.)
The Human Rights Council leaves much more to be desired than the IAEA. Its mission has obviously morphed left politically. It should be examined for bias in that respect, and for bias against and for certain countries and organizations.
You know how to throw up a smokescreen, I'll give you that.
Sam Lowry said:EatMoreSalmon said:Sam Lowry said:EatMoreSalmon said:Sam Lowry said:EatMoreSalmon said:
This thread is a perfect example of Sam's insistence on a narrative over reality. It should be required reading for anyone falling for his narratives on any other thread.
You realize the findings of the relevant UN authorities are against you on this one too, right?
While the war was raging in 2024.
Since then there has been no evidence there ever was a genocide or even widespread starvation.
It is time to put that to rest.
From the latest UNHRC report, September 2025:Quote:
The Commission concludes on reasonable grounds that the Israeli authorities and Israeli security forces have committed and are continuing to commit...genocide against the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.
The Commission finds that Israel used starvation as a method of warfare by imposing a total siege on Gaza and blocking humanitarian aid from entering into Gaza. It is important to note that Palestinians in Gaza have continued to suffer the effects of the total siege, which encompassed the cutting of food and water, fuel, electricity and medical supplies into Gaza, even after occasions when Israel permitted very limited humanitarian aid to enter. At no time has the aid been adequate to sustain life in Gaza.
The UN human rights council history on the US
Historical Overview & Key Themes
Foundation (1940s-1950s): The US was instrumental in creating the UN Commission on Human Rights (replaced by the Council in 2006) and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Eleanor Roosevelt served as the first chairperson.
Ambivalent Participation: The US has often maintained an ambivalent approach to UN human rights treaties, frequently signing but not ratifying, or heavily qualifying its support, particularly regarding economic and social rights.
Recent Focus Areas: In the 2020s, reports have focused heavily on systemic racism, police brutality, immigrant rights, and the reversal of reproductive rights.
On Poland:
UN Human Rights Council (UNHRC) reporting on Poland has increased in intensity since 2015, focusing heavily on judicial independence, women's rights, LGBTQ+ rights, and the rule of law through the Universal Periodic Review (UPR) and Special Procedures. Poland has undergone four UPR cycles (2008, 2012, 2017, and 2022).
Key Areas of Concern in UN Reports (20152026)
Judicial Independence: Reports have expressed consistent concern over reforms to the Polish judiciary since 2015, noting a crisis in the rule of law and risks to the separation of powers.
Women's Rights: The UN Committee on the Elimination of Discrimination Against Women (CEDAW) and other bodies have criticized the severe restrictions on abortion access, finding they violate fundamental human rights.
LGBTQ+ Rights: UN experts have raised alarms over anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric from officials, the establishment of "LGBT-free zones" by local municipalities, and a lack of protection against hate crimes.
Rule of Law: The UN and Council of Europe have highlighted the erosion of democratic checks and balances, particularly concerning the Constitutional Tribunal.
Media Freedom: Reports have flagged government interference with public media and intimidation of independent journalists.
Migration and Asylum: Concerns have been raised about rights violations at the Polish-Belarusian border, including the restriction of access to asylum.
Mandate Criticism:
The UNHRC has often been criticized, particularly by Israel, for its focus on Israeli actions. The current Commission of Inquiry (established in 2021) has a permanent mandate, which some, such as UN Watch Database, argue frequently ignores or minimizes violations committed by Hamas and the Palestinian Authority.
Recent Findings: Despite criticisms of bias, the 2024 report explicitly identified widespread sexual violence and "cruel treatment" as war crimes committed by Hamas.Humanitarian Concerns: Reports have regularly accused all parties of contributing to the dire human rights situation in Gaza.
(Notice it took 8 months for the council to cite the very public attacks by Hamas on October 7, 2023.)
The Human Rights Council leaves much more to be desired than the IAEA. Its mission has obviously morphed left politically. It should be examined for bias in that respect, and for bias against and for certain countries and organizations.
You know how to throw up a smokescreen, I'll give you that.
EatMoreSalmon said:Sam Lowry said:EatMoreSalmon said:Sam Lowry said:EatMoreSalmon said:Sam Lowry said:EatMoreSalmon said:
This thread is a perfect example of Sam's insistence on a narrative over reality. It should be required reading for anyone falling for his narratives on any other thread.
You realize the findings of the relevant UN authorities are against you on this one too, right?
While the war was raging in 2024.
Since then there has been no evidence there ever was a genocide or even widespread starvation.
It is time to put that to rest.
From the latest UNHRC report, September 2025:Quote:
The Commission concludes on reasonable grounds that the Israeli authorities and Israeli security forces have committed and are continuing to commit...genocide against the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.
The Commission finds that Israel used starvation as a method of warfare by imposing a total siege on Gaza and blocking humanitarian aid from entering into Gaza. It is important to note that Palestinians in Gaza have continued to suffer the effects of the total siege, which encompassed the cutting of food and water, fuel, electricity and medical supplies into Gaza, even after occasions when Israel permitted very limited humanitarian aid to enter. At no time has the aid been adequate to sustain life in Gaza.
The UN human rights council history on the US
Historical Overview & Key Themes
Foundation (1940s-1950s): The US was instrumental in creating the UN Commission on Human Rights (replaced by the Council in 2006) and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Eleanor Roosevelt served as the first chairperson.
Ambivalent Participation: The US has often maintained an ambivalent approach to UN human rights treaties, frequently signing but not ratifying, or heavily qualifying its support, particularly regarding economic and social rights.
Recent Focus Areas: In the 2020s, reports have focused heavily on systemic racism, police brutality, immigrant rights, and the reversal of reproductive rights.
On Poland:
UN Human Rights Council (UNHRC) reporting on Poland has increased in intensity since 2015, focusing heavily on judicial independence, women's rights, LGBTQ+ rights, and the rule of law through the Universal Periodic Review (UPR) and Special Procedures. Poland has undergone four UPR cycles (2008, 2012, 2017, and 2022).
Key Areas of Concern in UN Reports (20152026)
Judicial Independence: Reports have expressed consistent concern over reforms to the Polish judiciary since 2015, noting a crisis in the rule of law and risks to the separation of powers.
Women's Rights: The UN Committee on the Elimination of Discrimination Against Women (CEDAW) and other bodies have criticized the severe restrictions on abortion access, finding they violate fundamental human rights.
LGBTQ+ Rights: UN experts have raised alarms over anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric from officials, the establishment of "LGBT-free zones" by local municipalities, and a lack of protection against hate crimes.
Rule of Law: The UN and Council of Europe have highlighted the erosion of democratic checks and balances, particularly concerning the Constitutional Tribunal.
Media Freedom: Reports have flagged government interference with public media and intimidation of independent journalists.
Migration and Asylum: Concerns have been raised about rights violations at the Polish-Belarusian border, including the restriction of access to asylum.
Mandate Criticism:
The UNHRC has often been criticized, particularly by Israel, for its focus on Israeli actions. The current Commission of Inquiry (established in 2021) has a permanent mandate, which some, such as UN Watch Database, argue frequently ignores or minimizes violations committed by Hamas and the Palestinian Authority.
Recent Findings: Despite criticisms of bias, the 2024 report explicitly identified widespread sexual violence and "cruel treatment" as war crimes committed by Hamas.Humanitarian Concerns: Reports have regularly accused all parties of contributing to the dire human rights situation in Gaza.
(Notice it took 8 months for the council to cite the very public attacks by Hamas on October 7, 2023.)
The Human Rights Council leaves much more to be desired than the IAEA. Its mission has obviously morphed left politically. It should be examined for bias in that respect, and for bias against and for certain countries and organizations.
You know how to throw up a smokescreen, I'll give you that.
You're way better at that than I am.
Quote:
Mandate Criticism: The UNHRC has often been criticized, particularly by Israel, for its focus on Israeli actions. The current Commission of Inquiry (established in 2021) has a permanent mandate, which some, such as UN Watch Database, argue frequently ignores or minimizes violations committed by Hamas and the Palestinian Authority.
Recent Findings: Despite criticisms of bias, the 2024 report explicitly identified widespread sexual violence and "cruel treatment" as war crimes committed by Hamas.
Humanitarian Concerns: Reports have regularly accused all parties of contributing to the dire human rights situation in Gaza.
(Notice it took 8 months for the council to cite the very public attacks by Hamas on October 7, 2023.)
Sam Lowry said:EatMoreSalmon said:Sam Lowry said:EatMoreSalmon said:Sam Lowry said:EatMoreSalmon said:Sam Lowry said:EatMoreSalmon said:
This thread is a perfect example of Sam's insistence on a narrative over reality. It should be required reading for anyone falling for his narratives on any other thread.
You realize the findings of the relevant UN authorities are against you on this one too, right?
While the war was raging in 2024.
Since then there has been no evidence there ever was a genocide or even widespread starvation.
It is time to put that to rest.
From the latest UNHRC report, September 2025:Quote:
The Commission concludes on reasonable grounds that the Israeli authorities and Israeli security forces have committed and are continuing to commit...genocide against the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.
The Commission finds that Israel used starvation as a method of warfare by imposing a total siege on Gaza and blocking humanitarian aid from entering into Gaza. It is important to note that Palestinians in Gaza have continued to suffer the effects of the total siege, which encompassed the cutting of food and water, fuel, electricity and medical supplies into Gaza, even after occasions when Israel permitted very limited humanitarian aid to enter. At no time has the aid been adequate to sustain life in Gaza.
The UN human rights council history on the US
Historical Overview & Key Themes
Foundation (1940s-1950s): The US was instrumental in creating the UN Commission on Human Rights (replaced by the Council in 2006) and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Eleanor Roosevelt served as the first chairperson.
Ambivalent Participation: The US has often maintained an ambivalent approach to UN human rights treaties, frequently signing but not ratifying, or heavily qualifying its support, particularly regarding economic and social rights.
Recent Focus Areas: In the 2020s, reports have focused heavily on systemic racism, police brutality, immigrant rights, and the reversal of reproductive rights.
On Poland:
UN Human Rights Council (UNHRC) reporting on Poland has increased in intensity since 2015, focusing heavily on judicial independence, women's rights, LGBTQ+ rights, and the rule of law through the Universal Periodic Review (UPR) and Special Procedures. Poland has undergone four UPR cycles (2008, 2012, 2017, and 2022).
Key Areas of Concern in UN Reports (20152026)
Judicial Independence: Reports have expressed consistent concern over reforms to the Polish judiciary since 2015, noting a crisis in the rule of law and risks to the separation of powers.
Women's Rights: The UN Committee on the Elimination of Discrimination Against Women (CEDAW) and other bodies have criticized the severe restrictions on abortion access, finding they violate fundamental human rights.
LGBTQ+ Rights: UN experts have raised alarms over anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric from officials, the establishment of "LGBT-free zones" by local municipalities, and a lack of protection against hate crimes.
Rule of Law: The UN and Council of Europe have highlighted the erosion of democratic checks and balances, particularly concerning the Constitutional Tribunal.
Media Freedom: Reports have flagged government interference with public media and intimidation of independent journalists.
Migration and Asylum: Concerns have been raised about rights violations at the Polish-Belarusian border, including the restriction of access to asylum.
Mandate Criticism:
The UNHRC has often been criticized, particularly by Israel, for its focus on Israeli actions. The current Commission of Inquiry (established in 2021) has a permanent mandate, which some, such as UN Watch Database, argue frequently ignores or minimizes violations committed by Hamas and the Palestinian Authority.
Recent Findings: Despite criticisms of bias, the 2024 report explicitly identified widespread sexual violence and "cruel treatment" as war crimes committed by Hamas.Humanitarian Concerns: Reports have regularly accused all parties of contributing to the dire human rights situation in Gaza.
(Notice it took 8 months for the council to cite the very public attacks by Hamas on October 7, 2023.)
The Human Rights Council leaves much more to be desired than the IAEA. Its mission has obviously morphed left politically. It should be examined for bias in that respect, and for bias against and for certain countries and organizations.
You know how to throw up a smokescreen, I'll give you that.
You're way better at that than I am.
I'll address the one portion of your data dump that borders on being relevant:Quote:
Mandate Criticism: The UNHRC has often been criticized, particularly by Israel, for its focus on Israeli actions. The current Commission of Inquiry (established in 2021) has a permanent mandate, which some, such as UN Watch Database, argue frequently ignores or minimizes violations committed by Hamas and the Palestinian Authority.
Recent Findings: Despite criticisms of bias, the 2024 report explicitly identified widespread sexual violence and "cruel treatment" as war crimes committed by Hamas.
Humanitarian Concerns: Reports have regularly accused all parties of contributing to the dire human rights situation in Gaza.
(Notice it took 8 months for the council to cite the very public attacks by Hamas on October 7, 2023.)
As your own source makes clear, UNHRC has not limited its criticism to Israel. They've issued repeated condemnations of 10/7 beginning just a few days after the attacks. The 2024 report was their first detailed study of violations on both sides, but far from their first statement.
EatMoreSalmon said:Sam Lowry said:EatMoreSalmon said:Sam Lowry said:EatMoreSalmon said:Sam Lowry said:EatMoreSalmon said:Sam Lowry said:EatMoreSalmon said:
This thread is a perfect example of Sam's insistence on a narrative over reality. It should be required reading for anyone falling for his narratives on any other thread.
You realize the findings of the relevant UN authorities are against you on this one too, right?
While the war was raging in 2024.
Since then there has been no evidence there ever was a genocide or even widespread starvation.
It is time to put that to rest.
From the latest UNHRC report, September 2025:Quote:
The Commission concludes on reasonable grounds that the Israeli authorities and Israeli security forces have committed and are continuing to commit...genocide against the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.
The Commission finds that Israel used starvation as a method of warfare by imposing a total siege on Gaza and blocking humanitarian aid from entering into Gaza. It is important to note that Palestinians in Gaza have continued to suffer the effects of the total siege, which encompassed the cutting of food and water, fuel, electricity and medical supplies into Gaza, even after occasions when Israel permitted very limited humanitarian aid to enter. At no time has the aid been adequate to sustain life in Gaza.
The UN human rights council history on the US
Historical Overview & Key Themes
Foundation (1940s-1950s): The US was instrumental in creating the UN Commission on Human Rights (replaced by the Council in 2006) and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Eleanor Roosevelt served as the first chairperson.
Ambivalent Participation: The US has often maintained an ambivalent approach to UN human rights treaties, frequently signing but not ratifying, or heavily qualifying its support, particularly regarding economic and social rights.
Recent Focus Areas: In the 2020s, reports have focused heavily on systemic racism, police brutality, immigrant rights, and the reversal of reproductive rights.
On Poland:
UN Human Rights Council (UNHRC) reporting on Poland has increased in intensity since 2015, focusing heavily on judicial independence, women's rights, LGBTQ+ rights, and the rule of law through the Universal Periodic Review (UPR) and Special Procedures. Poland has undergone four UPR cycles (2008, 2012, 2017, and 2022).
Key Areas of Concern in UN Reports (20152026)
Judicial Independence: Reports have expressed consistent concern over reforms to the Polish judiciary since 2015, noting a crisis in the rule of law and risks to the separation of powers.
Women's Rights: The UN Committee on the Elimination of Discrimination Against Women (CEDAW) and other bodies have criticized the severe restrictions on abortion access, finding they violate fundamental human rights.
LGBTQ+ Rights: UN experts have raised alarms over anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric from officials, the establishment of "LGBT-free zones" by local municipalities, and a lack of protection against hate crimes.
Rule of Law: The UN and Council of Europe have highlighted the erosion of democratic checks and balances, particularly concerning the Constitutional Tribunal.
Media Freedom: Reports have flagged government interference with public media and intimidation of independent journalists.
Migration and Asylum: Concerns have been raised about rights violations at the Polish-Belarusian border, including the restriction of access to asylum.
Mandate Criticism:
The UNHRC has often been criticized, particularly by Israel, for its focus on Israeli actions. The current Commission of Inquiry (established in 2021) has a permanent mandate, which some, such as UN Watch Database, argue frequently ignores or minimizes violations committed by Hamas and the Palestinian Authority.
Recent Findings: Despite criticisms of bias, the 2024 report explicitly identified widespread sexual violence and "cruel treatment" as war crimes committed by Hamas.Humanitarian Concerns: Reports have regularly accused all parties of contributing to the dire human rights situation in Gaza.
(Notice it took 8 months for the council to cite the very public attacks by Hamas on October 7, 2023.)
The Human Rights Council leaves much more to be desired than the IAEA. Its mission has obviously morphed left politically. It should be examined for bias in that respect, and for bias against and for certain countries and organizations.
You know how to throw up a smokescreen, I'll give you that.
You're way better at that than I am.
I'll address the one portion of your data dump that borders on being relevant:Quote:
Mandate Criticism: The UNHRC has often been criticized, particularly by Israel, for its focus on Israeli actions. The current Commission of Inquiry (established in 2021) has a permanent mandate, which some, such as UN Watch Database, argue frequently ignores or minimizes violations committed by Hamas and the Palestinian Authority.
Recent Findings: Despite criticisms of bias, the 2024 report explicitly identified widespread sexual violence and "cruel treatment" as war crimes committed by Hamas.
Humanitarian Concerns: Reports have regularly accused all parties of contributing to the dire human rights situation in Gaza.
(Notice it took 8 months for the council to cite the very public attacks by Hamas on October 7, 2023.)
As your own source makes clear, UNHRC has not limited its criticism to Israel. They've issued repeated condemnations of 10/7 beginning just a few days after the attacks. The 2024 report was their first detailed study of violations on both sides, but far from their first statement.
The UNHRC has rightly been accused of an agenda not necessarily human rights centered, but ideology centered. That is what the information showed with a very simple question to that terribly conservative AI from Google:
"What are the reports given by UNHRC on (insert country here)?"
Sam Lowry said:EatMoreSalmon said:Sam Lowry said:EatMoreSalmon said:Sam Lowry said:EatMoreSalmon said:Sam Lowry said:EatMoreSalmon said:Sam Lowry said:EatMoreSalmon said:
This thread is a perfect example of Sam's insistence on a narrative over reality. It should be required reading for anyone falling for his narratives on any other thread.
You realize the findings of the relevant UN authorities are against you on this one too, right?
While the war was raging in 2024.
Since then there has been no evidence there ever was a genocide or even widespread starvation.
It is time to put that to rest.
From the latest UNHRC report, September 2025:Quote:
The Commission concludes on reasonable grounds that the Israeli authorities and Israeli security forces have committed and are continuing to commit...genocide against the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.
The Commission finds that Israel used starvation as a method of warfare by imposing a total siege on Gaza and blocking humanitarian aid from entering into Gaza. It is important to note that Palestinians in Gaza have continued to suffer the effects of the total siege, which encompassed the cutting of food and water, fuel, electricity and medical supplies into Gaza, even after occasions when Israel permitted very limited humanitarian aid to enter. At no time has the aid been adequate to sustain life in Gaza.
The UN human rights council history on the US
Historical Overview & Key Themes
Foundation (1940s-1950s): The US was instrumental in creating the UN Commission on Human Rights (replaced by the Council in 2006) and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Eleanor Roosevelt served as the first chairperson.
Ambivalent Participation: The US has often maintained an ambivalent approach to UN human rights treaties, frequently signing but not ratifying, or heavily qualifying its support, particularly regarding economic and social rights.
Recent Focus Areas: In the 2020s, reports have focused heavily on systemic racism, police brutality, immigrant rights, and the reversal of reproductive rights.
On Poland:
UN Human Rights Council (UNHRC) reporting on Poland has increased in intensity since 2015, focusing heavily on judicial independence, women's rights, LGBTQ+ rights, and the rule of law through the Universal Periodic Review (UPR) and Special Procedures. Poland has undergone four UPR cycles (2008, 2012, 2017, and 2022).
Key Areas of Concern in UN Reports (20152026)
Judicial Independence: Reports have expressed consistent concern over reforms to the Polish judiciary since 2015, noting a crisis in the rule of law and risks to the separation of powers.
Women's Rights: The UN Committee on the Elimination of Discrimination Against Women (CEDAW) and other bodies have criticized the severe restrictions on abortion access, finding they violate fundamental human rights.
LGBTQ+ Rights: UN experts have raised alarms over anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric from officials, the establishment of "LGBT-free zones" by local municipalities, and a lack of protection against hate crimes.
Rule of Law: The UN and Council of Europe have highlighted the erosion of democratic checks and balances, particularly concerning the Constitutional Tribunal.
Media Freedom: Reports have flagged government interference with public media and intimidation of independent journalists.
Migration and Asylum: Concerns have been raised about rights violations at the Polish-Belarusian border, including the restriction of access to asylum.
Mandate Criticism:
The UNHRC has often been criticized, particularly by Israel, for its focus on Israeli actions. The current Commission of Inquiry (established in 2021) has a permanent mandate, which some, such as UN Watch Database, argue frequently ignores or minimizes violations committed by Hamas and the Palestinian Authority.
Recent Findings: Despite criticisms of bias, the 2024 report explicitly identified widespread sexual violence and "cruel treatment" as war crimes committed by Hamas.Humanitarian Concerns: Reports have regularly accused all parties of contributing to the dire human rights situation in Gaza.
(Notice it took 8 months for the council to cite the very public attacks by Hamas on October 7, 2023.)
The Human Rights Council leaves much more to be desired than the IAEA. Its mission has obviously morphed left politically. It should be examined for bias in that respect, and for bias against and for certain countries and organizations.
You know how to throw up a smokescreen, I'll give you that.
You're way better at that than I am.
I'll address the one portion of your data dump that borders on being relevant:Quote:
Mandate Criticism: The UNHRC has often been criticized, particularly by Israel, for its focus on Israeli actions. The current Commission of Inquiry (established in 2021) has a permanent mandate, which some, such as UN Watch Database, argue frequently ignores or minimizes violations committed by Hamas and the Palestinian Authority.
Recent Findings: Despite criticisms of bias, the 2024 report explicitly identified widespread sexual violence and "cruel treatment" as war crimes committed by Hamas.
Humanitarian Concerns: Reports have regularly accused all parties of contributing to the dire human rights situation in Gaza.
(Notice it took 8 months for the council to cite the very public attacks by Hamas on October 7, 2023.)
As your own source makes clear, UNHRC has not limited its criticism to Israel. They've issued repeated condemnations of 10/7 beginning just a few days after the attacks. The 2024 report was their first detailed study of violations on both sides, but far from their first statement.
The UNHRC has rightly been accused of an agenda not necessarily human rights centered, but ideology centered. That is what the information showed with a very simple question to that terribly conservative AI from Google:
"What are the reports given by UNHRC on (insert country here)?"
And even that came with caveats (see above).
Robert Wilson said:
gEnoCIDE Sam
OK, how many genocides are we talking about on this thread? I can't wait to hear about all of them.
Harrison Bergeron said:
Notice how Hamas Harry and the other LWNJs cannot face facts.
Robert Wilson said:Harrison Bergeron said:
Notice how Hamas Harry and the other LWNJs cannot face facts.
Word games. "That's genocide. That's fascism. Words are violence." And on and on. Just transparent, silly word games.
People with clarity of thought think about things, not words.
Robert Wilson said:Harrison Bergeron said:
Notice how Hamas Harry and the other LWNJs cannot face facts.
Word games. "That's genocide. That's fascism. Words are violence." And on and on. Just transparent, silly word games.
People with clarity of thought think about things, not words.
Harrison Bergeron said:Robert Wilson said:Harrison Bergeron said:
Notice how Hamas Harry and the other LWNJs cannot face facts.
Word games. "That's genocide. That's fascism. Words are violence." And on and on. Just transparent, silly word games.
People with clarity of thought think about things, not words.
The entire program of the left is to hide reality and yell Big Scary Words. Harry did the same during rona's: ignore data and listen to what T'EXPERT says!
It's not a coincidence he has no answer.
Robert Wilson said:Harrison Bergeron said:Robert Wilson said:Harrison Bergeron said:
Notice how Hamas Harry and the other LWNJs cannot face facts.
Word games. "That's genocide. That's fascism. Words are violence." And on and on. Just transparent, silly word games.
People with clarity of thought think about things, not words.
The entire program of the left is to hide reality and yell Big Scary Words. Harry did the same during rona's: ignore data and listen to what T'EXPERT says!
It's not a coincidence he has no answer.
Since this plainly was not a genocide, but it got Sam all way up in his word game feels, maybe we just called this one a genoSam.
Sam Lowry said:Robert Wilson said:Harrison Bergeron said:Robert Wilson said:Harrison Bergeron said:
Notice how Hamas Harry and the other LWNJs cannot face facts.
Word games. "That's genocide. That's fascism. Words are violence." And on and on. Just transparent, silly word games.
People with clarity of thought think about things, not words.
The entire program of the left is to hide reality and yell Big Scary Words. Harry did the same during rona's: ignore data and listen to what T'EXPERT says!
It's not a coincidence he has no answer.
Since this plainly was not a genocide, but it got Sam all way up in his word game feels, maybe we just called this one a genoSam.
The UN made its case. That ball has been in your court for a long time.