Assassin said:

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Around 10% of Palestinian aid agency's 12,000 staff in Gaza have links to militants, according to intelligence dossier

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NYT:

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Israel has not provided evidence to support its accusations that many employees of the main U.N. agency for Palestinian refugees are members of terrorist organizations, according to an independent review commissioned by the United Nations that was released on Monday.

The review...said that UNRWA had long shared lists of its employees with Israel, but that the Israeli government had not informed the agency of any concerns relating to UNRWA staff members based on these lists since 2011.

"Israel made public claims that a significant number of UNRWA employees are members of terrorist organizations," the report said. "However, Israel has yet to provide supporting evidence of this."

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Assassin said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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the same people that have been lying to you are lying to you.

https://nypost.com/2025/07/29/media/new-york-times-stunningly-rolls-back-claims-about-viral-photo-of-starving-gaza-boy/

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You're kidding. The media is lying to us? What will they do next, tell us that Hamas is not stealing the food meant for Gaza residents?

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No Proof Hamas Routinely Stole U.N. Aid, Israeli Military Officials Say
By Natan Odenheimer
July 26, 2025

For nearly two years, Israel has accused Hamas of stealing aid provided by the United Nations and other international organizations. The government has used that claim as its main rationale for restricting food from entering Gaza.

But the Israeli military never found proof that the Palestinian militant group had systematically stolen aid from the United Nations, the biggest supplier of emergency assistance to Gaza for most of the war, according to two senior Israeli military officials and two other Israelis involved in the matter.

In fact, the Israeli military officials said, the U.N. aid delivery system, which Israel derided and undermined, was largely effective in providing food to Gaza's desperate and hungry population.

The military officials who spoke to The New York Times said that the original U.N. aid operation was relatively reliable and less vulnerable to Hamas interference than the operations of many of the other groups bringing aid into Gaza. That's largely because the United Nations managed its own supply chain and handled distribution directly inside Gaza.

Hamas did steal from some of the smaller organizations that donated aid, as those groups were not always on the ground to oversee distribution, according to the senior Israeli officials and others involved in the matter. But, they say, there was no evidence that Hamas regularly stole from the United Nations, which provided the largest chunk of the aid.

An internal U.S. government analysis came to a similar conclusion, Reuters reported on Friday. It found no evidence of systematic Hamas theft of U.S.-funded humanitarian supplies, the report said.

"For months, we and other organizations were dragged through the mud by accusations that Hamas steals from us," said Georgios Petropoulos, a former U.N. official in Gaza who oversaw aid coordination with Israel for nearly 13 months of war.

Mr. Petropoulos, the former U.N. official in Gaza, welcomed the notion that some Israeli officials had recognized the U.N.-led aid system as effective during the war. But he said he wished that endorsement had come much sooner.

"If the U.N. had been taken at face value months ago, we wouldn't have wasted all this time and Gazans wouldn't be starving and being shot at trying to feed their families," he said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/world/middleeast/hamas-un-aid-theft.html

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You can believe Hamas or you can believe your own eyes ... but I'm sure like Biden it's just a deepfake.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-862584

How many times do they have to lie to you before you stop trusting them?

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More dishonest cherry-picking, much like your pretending that one child with a "pre-existing condition" refutes hundreds of reports of malnutrition and starvation. The desperate rhetorical tactics of the morally bankrupt.

Assassin said:

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J.R. said:

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Assassin said:

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ScottS said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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From the NYT article to cover their backside:

"Hamas did steal from some of the smaller organizations that donated aid, as those groups were not always on the ground to oversee distribution, according to the senior Israeli officials and others involved in the matter. But, they say, there was no evidence that Hamas regularly stole from the United Nations, which provided the largest chunk of the aid."

Emphasis is mine
Direct quotes in the article are sorely lacking.

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So if even the Slimes is saying Hamas is stealing the aid, why are some on this board blaming the Jews for everything? I feel like they are anti semitic.

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It's been well documented that Hamas is stealing food from the folks in Gaza. Not sure why folks are insisting that Hamas are the good guys and never would do anything bad. They have a great record of being the nice guys

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https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/25/politics/us-government-review-no-evidence-widespread-theft-gaza-aid

from your own govt. Don't let fact get in your way. Turn off Fox News

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Did you actually read it? You would note that even this most-leftist of webpages didnt say that Hamas had been cutting off all the aid, but they did say that Hamas cut off some of it. Don't let facts get in your way. Turn off CNN.

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CNN? I think JR is more of a MSLSD watcher.

Egyptian news outlets reported that Israeli officials were in Egypt last week trying to work a food supply through Rapha. Those talks were fruitless.

Sam Lowry said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Assassin said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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the same people that have been lying to you are lying to you.

https://nypost.com/2025/07/29/media/new-york-times-stunningly-rolls-back-claims-about-viral-photo-of-starving-gaza-boy/

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You're kidding. The media is lying to us? What will they do next, tell us that Hamas is not stealing the food meant for Gaza residents?

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No Proof Hamas Routinely Stole U.N. Aid, Israeli Military Officials Say
By Natan Odenheimer
July 26, 2025

For nearly two years, Israel has accused Hamas of stealing aid provided by the United Nations and other international organizations. The government has used that claim as its main rationale for restricting food from entering Gaza.

But the Israeli military never found proof that the Palestinian militant group had systematically stolen aid from the United Nations, the biggest supplier of emergency assistance to Gaza for most of the war, according to two senior Israeli military officials and two other Israelis involved in the matter.

In fact, the Israeli military officials said, the U.N. aid delivery system, which Israel derided and undermined, was largely effective in providing food to Gaza's desperate and hungry population.

The military officials who spoke to The New York Times said that the original U.N. aid operation was relatively reliable and less vulnerable to Hamas interference than the operations of many of the other groups bringing aid into Gaza. That's largely because the United Nations managed its own supply chain and handled distribution directly inside Gaza.

Hamas did steal from some of the smaller organizations that donated aid, as those groups were not always on the ground to oversee distribution, according to the senior Israeli officials and others involved in the matter. But, they say, there was no evidence that Hamas regularly stole from the United Nations, which provided the largest chunk of the aid.

An internal U.S. government analysis came to a similar conclusion, Reuters reported on Friday. It found no evidence of systematic Hamas theft of U.S.-funded humanitarian supplies, the report said.

"For months, we and other organizations were dragged through the mud by accusations that Hamas steals from us," said Georgios Petropoulos, a former U.N. official in Gaza who oversaw aid coordination with Israel for nearly 13 months of war.

Mr. Petropoulos, the former U.N. official in Gaza, welcomed the notion that some Israeli officials had recognized the U.N.-led aid system as effective during the war. But he said he wished that endorsement had come much sooner.

"If the U.N. had been taken at face value months ago, we wouldn't have wasted all this time and Gazans wouldn't be starving and being shot at trying to feed their families," he said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/world/middleeast/hamas-un-aid-theft.html

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You can believe Hamas or you can believe your own eyes ... but I'm sure like Biden it's just a deepfake.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-862584

How many times do they have to lie to you before you stop trusting them?

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More dishonest cherry-picking, much like your pretending that one child with a "pre-existing condition" refutes hundreds of reports of malnutrition and starvation. The desperate rhetorical tactics of the morally bankrupt.

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Okay Bagdad Bob.

You keep quoting Hamas like it is an honest actor.

If kids were actually starving the anti-Jewish media would not have to post disinformation.

EatMoreSalmon said:

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Egyptian news outlets reported that Israeli officials were in Egypt last week trying to work a food supply through Rapha. Those talks were fruitless.

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I wonder why Israel is condemned for feeding people that literally want to wipe them from the Earth but Egypt and other rich Muslim countries are criticized for preventing aid or not sending aid to Gaza.

What is your theory as to why this might be?

Harrison Bergeron said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Assassin said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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the same people that have been lying to you are lying to you.

https://nypost.com/2025/07/29/media/new-york-times-stunningly-rolls-back-claims-about-viral-photo-of-starving-gaza-boy/

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You're kidding. The media is lying to us? What will they do next, tell us that Hamas is not stealing the food meant for Gaza residents?

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No Proof Hamas Routinely Stole U.N. Aid, Israeli Military Officials Say
By Natan Odenheimer
July 26, 2025

For nearly two years, Israel has accused Hamas of stealing aid provided by the United Nations and other international organizations. The government has used that claim as its main rationale for restricting food from entering Gaza.

But the Israeli military never found proof that the Palestinian militant group had systematically stolen aid from the United Nations, the biggest supplier of emergency assistance to Gaza for most of the war, according to two senior Israeli military officials and two other Israelis involved in the matter.

In fact, the Israeli military officials said, the U.N. aid delivery system, which Israel derided and undermined, was largely effective in providing food to Gaza's desperate and hungry population.

The military officials who spoke to The New York Times said that the original U.N. aid operation was relatively reliable and less vulnerable to Hamas interference than the operations of many of the other groups bringing aid into Gaza. That's largely because the United Nations managed its own supply chain and handled distribution directly inside Gaza.

Hamas did steal from some of the smaller organizations that donated aid, as those groups were not always on the ground to oversee distribution, according to the senior Israeli officials and others involved in the matter. But, they say, there was no evidence that Hamas regularly stole from the United Nations, which provided the largest chunk of the aid.

An internal U.S. government analysis came to a similar conclusion, Reuters reported on Friday. It found no evidence of systematic Hamas theft of U.S.-funded humanitarian supplies, the report said.

"For months, we and other organizations were dragged through the mud by accusations that Hamas steals from us," said Georgios Petropoulos, a former U.N. official in Gaza who oversaw aid coordination with Israel for nearly 13 months of war.

Mr. Petropoulos, the former U.N. official in Gaza, welcomed the notion that some Israeli officials had recognized the U.N.-led aid system as effective during the war. But he said he wished that endorsement had come much sooner.

"If the U.N. had been taken at face value months ago, we wouldn't have wasted all this time and Gazans wouldn't be starving and being shot at trying to feed their families," he said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/world/middleeast/hamas-un-aid-theft.html

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You can believe Hamas or you can believe your own eyes ... but I'm sure like Biden it's just a deepfake.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-862584

How many times do they have to lie to you before you stop trusting them?

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More dishonest cherry-picking, much like your pretending that one child with a "pre-existing condition" refutes hundreds of reports of malnutrition and starvation. The desperate rhetorical tactics of the morally bankrupt.

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Okay Bagdad Bob.

You keep quoting Hamas like it is an honest actor.

If kids were actually starving the anti-Jewish media would not have to post disinformation.

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I have not once quoted Hamas. This particular source was from the Israeli military.

EatMoreSalmon said:

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Egyptian news outlets reported that Israeli officials were in Egypt last week trying to work a food supply through Rapha. Those talks were fruitless.

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Maybe Israel should allow aid through the other 90% of the border not controlled by Egypt.

Sam Lowry said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Assassin said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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the same people that have been lying to you are lying to you.

https://nypost.com/2025/07/29/media/new-york-times-stunningly-rolls-back-claims-about-viral-photo-of-starving-gaza-boy/

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You're kidding. The media is lying to us? What will they do next, tell us that Hamas is not stealing the food meant for Gaza residents?

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No Proof Hamas Routinely Stole U.N. Aid, Israeli Military Officials Say
By Natan Odenheimer
July 26, 2025

For nearly two years, Israel has accused Hamas of stealing aid provided by the United Nations and other international organizations. The government has used that claim as its main rationale for restricting food from entering Gaza.

But the Israeli military never found proof that the Palestinian militant group had systematically stolen aid from the United Nations, the biggest supplier of emergency assistance to Gaza for most of the war, according to two senior Israeli military officials and two other Israelis involved in the matter.

In fact, the Israeli military officials said, the U.N. aid delivery system, which Israel derided and undermined, was largely effective in providing food to Gaza's desperate and hungry population.

The military officials who spoke to The New York Times said that the original U.N. aid operation was relatively reliable and less vulnerable to Hamas interference than the operations of many of the other groups bringing aid into Gaza. That's largely because the United Nations managed its own supply chain and handled distribution directly inside Gaza.

Hamas did steal from some of the smaller organizations that donated aid, as those groups were not always on the ground to oversee distribution, according to the senior Israeli officials and others involved in the matter. But, they say, there was no evidence that Hamas regularly stole from the United Nations, which provided the largest chunk of the aid.

An internal U.S. government analysis came to a similar conclusion, Reuters reported on Friday. It found no evidence of systematic Hamas theft of U.S.-funded humanitarian supplies, the report said.

"For months, we and other organizations were dragged through the mud by accusations that Hamas steals from us," said Georgios Petropoulos, a former U.N. official in Gaza who oversaw aid coordination with Israel for nearly 13 months of war.

Mr. Petropoulos, the former U.N. official in Gaza, welcomed the notion that some Israeli officials had recognized the U.N.-led aid system as effective during the war. But he said he wished that endorsement had come much sooner.

"If the U.N. had been taken at face value months ago, we wouldn't have wasted all this time and Gazans wouldn't be starving and being shot at trying to feed their families," he said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/world/middleeast/hamas-un-aid-theft.html

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You can believe Hamas or you can believe your own eyes ... but I'm sure like Biden it's just a deepfake.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-862584

How many times do they have to lie to you before you stop trusting them?

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More dishonest cherry-picking, much like your pretending that one child with a "pre-existing condition" refutes hundreds of reports of malnutrition and starvation. The desperate rhetorical tactics of the morally bankrupt.

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Okay Bagdad Bob.

You keep quoting Hamas like it is an honest actor.

If kids were actually starving the anti-Jewish media would not have to post disinformation.

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I have not once quoted Hamas. This particular source was from the Israeli military.

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Can you share the years this man served and rank this man achieved in the Israeli military? I'll admit, his name sounds very Semitic, so it seems legit.

said Georgios Petropoulos, a former U.N. official in Gaza who oversaw aid coordination with Israel for nearly 13 months of war.

Sam Lowry said:

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Assassin said:

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Around 10% of Palestinian aid agency's 12,000 staff in Gaza have links to militants, according to intelligence dossier

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NYT:

Quote:

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Israel has not provided evidence to support its accusations that many employees of the main U.N. agency for Palestinian refugees are members of terrorist organizations, according to an independent review commissioned by the United Nations that was released on Monday.

The review...said that UNRWA had long shared lists of its employees with Israel, but that the Israeli government had not informed the agency of any concerns relating to UNRWA staff members based on these lists since 2011.

"Israel made public claims that a significant number of UNRWA employees are members of terrorist organizations," the report said. "However, Israel has yet to provide supporting evidence of this."

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You do realize that it's your Wall Street Journal you are contradicting, correct? They swing pretty far left these days, your direction and you're saying they dont know anything?

Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Egyptian news outlets reported that Israeli officials were in Egypt last week trying to work a food supply through Rapha. Those talks were fruitless.

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Maybe Israel should allow aid through the other 90% of the border not controlled by Egypt.

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Maybe it should facilitate safe delivery of aid and keep it from terrorists, who keep it from the people in favor of selling it ... wait, that's what it and the U.S. are doing.

Assassin said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Assassin said:

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Around 10% of Palestinian aid agency's 12,000 staff in Gaza have links to militants, according to intelligence dossier

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NYT:

Quote:

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Israel has not provided evidence to support its accusations that many employees of the main U.N. agency for Palestinian refugees are members of terrorist organizations, according to an independent review commissioned by the United Nations that was released on Monday.

The review...said that UNRWA had long shared lists of its employees with Israel, but that the Israeli government had not informed the agency of any concerns relating to UNRWA staff members based on these lists since 2011.

"Israel made public claims that a significant number of UNRWA employees are members of terrorist organizations," the report said. "However, Israel has yet to provide supporting evidence of this."

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You do realize that it's your Wall Street Journal you are contradicting, correct? They swing pretty far left these days, your direction and you're saying they dont know anything?

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they are one of the best publications we have. Owned by you Fox News morons.

where d Pole Dancer AG lately . She be out of sight.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Assassin said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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the same people that have been lying to you are lying to you.

https://nypost.com/2025/07/29/media/new-york-times-stunningly-rolls-back-claims-about-viral-photo-of-starving-gaza-boy/

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You're kidding. The media is lying to us? What will they do next, tell us that Hamas is not stealing the food meant for Gaza residents?

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No Proof Hamas Routinely Stole U.N. Aid, Israeli Military Officials Say
By Natan Odenheimer
July 26, 2025

For nearly two years, Israel has accused Hamas of stealing aid provided by the United Nations and other international organizations. The government has used that claim as its main rationale for restricting food from entering Gaza.

But the Israeli military never found proof that the Palestinian militant group had systematically stolen aid from the United Nations, the biggest supplier of emergency assistance to Gaza for most of the war, according to two senior Israeli military officials and two other Israelis involved in the matter.

In fact, the Israeli military officials said, the U.N. aid delivery system, which Israel derided and undermined, was largely effective in providing food to Gaza's desperate and hungry population.

The military officials who spoke to The New York Times said that the original U.N. aid operation was relatively reliable and less vulnerable to Hamas interference than the operations of many of the other groups bringing aid into Gaza. That's largely because the United Nations managed its own supply chain and handled distribution directly inside Gaza.

Hamas did steal from some of the smaller organizations that donated aid, as those groups were not always on the ground to oversee distribution, according to the senior Israeli officials and others involved in the matter. But, they say, there was no evidence that Hamas regularly stole from the United Nations, which provided the largest chunk of the aid.

An internal U.S. government analysis came to a similar conclusion, Reuters reported on Friday. It found no evidence of systematic Hamas theft of U.S.-funded humanitarian supplies, the report said.

"For months, we and other organizations were dragged through the mud by accusations that Hamas steals from us," said Georgios Petropoulos, a former U.N. official in Gaza who oversaw aid coordination with Israel for nearly 13 months of war.

Mr. Petropoulos, the former U.N. official in Gaza, welcomed the notion that some Israeli officials had recognized the U.N.-led aid system as effective during the war. But he said he wished that endorsement had come much sooner.

"If the U.N. had been taken at face value months ago, we wouldn't have wasted all this time and Gazans wouldn't be starving and being shot at trying to feed their families," he said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/world/middleeast/hamas-un-aid-theft.html

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You can believe Hamas or you can believe your own eyes ... but I'm sure like Biden it's just a deepfake.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-862584

How many times do they have to lie to you before you stop trusting them?

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More dishonest cherry-picking, much like your pretending that one child with a "pre-existing condition" refutes hundreds of reports of malnutrition and starvation. The desperate rhetorical tactics of the morally bankrupt.

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Okay Bagdad Bob.

You keep quoting Hamas like it is an honest actor.

If kids were actually starving the anti-Jewish media would not have to post disinformation.

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I have not once quoted Hamas. This particular source was from the Israeli military.

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Can you share the years this man served and rank this man achieved in the Israeli military? I'll admit, his name sounds very Semitic, so it seems legit.

said Georgios Petropoulos, a former U.N. official in Gaza who oversaw aid coordination with Israel for nearly 13 months of war.

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He's a commentator for the article, not a source, much less a Hamas source.

I'm not even here to argue, so flail away. History will bear witness. You and your friends only condemn yourselves with every disingenuous post.

J.R. said:

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where d Pole Dancer AG lately . She be out of sight.

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I always imagined "Rachel" Levine would be your kind of pole dancer ... I forgot ... Levine might be Jewish.

J.R. said:

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Assassin said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Assassin said:

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Around 10% of Palestinian aid agency's 12,000 staff in Gaza have links to militants, according to intelligence dossier

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NYT:

Quote:

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Israel has not provided evidence to support its accusations that many employees of the main U.N. agency for Palestinian refugees are members of terrorist organizations, according to an independent review commissioned by the United Nations that was released on Monday.

The review...said that UNRWA had long shared lists of its employees with Israel, but that the Israeli government had not informed the agency of any concerns relating to UNRWA staff members based on these lists since 2011.

"Israel made public claims that a significant number of UNRWA employees are members of terrorist organizations," the report said. "However, Israel has yet to provide supporting evidence of this."

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You do realize that it's your Wall Street Journal you are contradicting, correct? They swing pretty far left these days, your direction and you're saying they dont know anything?

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they are one of the best publications we have. Owned by you Fox News morons.

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Owned by Murdoch but most certainy not edited by him, moron

Harrison Bergeron said:

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J.R. said:

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where d Pole Dancer AG lately . She be out of sight.

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I always imagined "Rachel" Levine would be your kind of pole dancer ... I forgot ... Levine might be Jewish.

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He does come across sometimes as a little Hermann Göring, doesnt he?

Sam Lowry said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Assassin said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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the same people that have been lying to you are lying to you.

https://nypost.com/2025/07/29/media/new-york-times-stunningly-rolls-back-claims-about-viral-photo-of-starving-gaza-boy/

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You're kidding. The media is lying to us? What will they do next, tell us that Hamas is not stealing the food meant for Gaza residents?

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No Proof Hamas Routinely Stole U.N. Aid, Israeli Military Officials Say
By Natan Odenheimer
July 26, 2025

For nearly two years, Israel has accused Hamas of stealing aid provided by the United Nations and other international organizations. The government has used that claim as its main rationale for restricting food from entering Gaza.

But the Israeli military never found proof that the Palestinian militant group had systematically stolen aid from the United Nations, the biggest supplier of emergency assistance to Gaza for most of the war, according to two senior Israeli military officials and two other Israelis involved in the matter.

In fact, the Israeli military officials said, the U.N. aid delivery system, which Israel derided and undermined, was largely effective in providing food to Gaza's desperate and hungry population.

The military officials who spoke to The New York Times said that the original U.N. aid operation was relatively reliable and less vulnerable to Hamas interference than the operations of many of the other groups bringing aid into Gaza. That's largely because the United Nations managed its own supply chain and handled distribution directly inside Gaza.

Hamas did steal from some of the smaller organizations that donated aid, as those groups were not always on the ground to oversee distribution, according to the senior Israeli officials and others involved in the matter. But, they say, there was no evidence that Hamas regularly stole from the United Nations, which provided the largest chunk of the aid.

An internal U.S. government analysis came to a similar conclusion, Reuters reported on Friday. It found no evidence of systematic Hamas theft of U.S.-funded humanitarian supplies, the report said.

"For months, we and other organizations were dragged through the mud by accusations that Hamas steals from us," said Georgios Petropoulos, a former U.N. official in Gaza who oversaw aid coordination with Israel for nearly 13 months of war.

Mr. Petropoulos, the former U.N. official in Gaza, welcomed the notion that some Israeli officials had recognized the U.N.-led aid system as effective during the war. But he said he wished that endorsement had come much sooner.

"If the U.N. had been taken at face value months ago, we wouldn't have wasted all this time and Gazans wouldn't be starving and being shot at trying to feed their families," he said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/world/middleeast/hamas-un-aid-theft.html

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You can believe Hamas or you can believe your own eyes ... but I'm sure like Biden it's just a deepfake.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-862584

How many times do they have to lie to you before you stop trusting them?

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More dishonest cherry-picking, much like your pretending that one child with a "pre-existing condition" refutes hundreds of reports of malnutrition and starvation. The desperate rhetorical tactics of the morally bankrupt.

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No one on this board, including you, can claim superiority over another due to cherry picking on this subject (or most others). There are numerous news outlets contradicting each other. I don't see anyone posting news from all sides, I do see counter news from many sides on this thread. The big problem is the poor access in Gaza by third parties to know what really is and isn't. Not that unusual in war. See fog of war descriptions.

What many of us are relying on to weed through this is the history of Hamas' treatment of their people and Israelis.

Hamas' policies have kept their people in poverty and under the gun for decades now. They cannot live with an Israeli state. Period. It's in their stated goals. October 7 2023 is just another horrid proof.

Gaza since Israeli disengagement:
Israeli Disengagement and the Rise of Hamas
In 2005, Israel withdrew its military and dismantled settlements in the Gaza Strip under the Israeli Disengagement Plan. This move was seen by some as a step toward peace, but the situation in Gaza remained volatile. After Israel's withdrawal, internal divisions between Fatah (the dominant faction within the Palestinian Authority) and Hamas escalated.
In 2006, Hamas won the Palestinian legislative elections, leading to a political standoff with Fatah. In 2007, Hamas took control of Gaza through a violent conflict with Fatah, splitting the Palestinian territories into Hamas-ruled Gaza and Fatah-controlled West Bank areas.

The Siege of Gaza history and Humanitarian Crisis
Hamas took control of Gaza in 2007, prompting Israel and Egypt to impose a blockade that restricts the movement of goods and people. Consequently, this siege has led to economic collapse and severe shortages of food, medicine, and electricity, deepening the humanitarian crisis.
Periodic conflicts between Hamas and Israel, including major offensives in 2008-2009, 2012, and 2014, have caused thousands of casualties on both sides.Gaza's history reveals that conflict has repeatedly damaged or destroyed its infrastructure, including schools, hospitals, and homes. Consequently, the siege and ongoing conflicts have left Gaza's 2 million residents in dire conditions, facing high levels of poverty, unemployment, and food insecurity.
(above from recent Palestine Talk article)

Hamas spokespeople have consistently been proven to lie to the international public.

Egypt wants nothing to do with them either.
Egyptian border with Gaza:


When Israel pushed into Gaza, Egypt made sure with their military that Palestinians would not flee to Sinai according to Reuters.

Hamas has intentionally used civilians as shields throughout its tenure. It is no surprise to see that in the conflict at hand.
Hamas has used Gaza hospitals for military operations

NYT on (Biden Administartion) American intelligence that Hamas used Gaza Hospital

Mortars were used by Palestinians to attack the US pier to Gaza. That's not a civilian attack - which did also happen during the first delivery of food. There are LOTS of articles about the US pier that confirm this.

Hamas has been robbing the local Gazans for many years.

Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Egyptian news outlets reported that Israeli officials were in Egypt last week trying to work a food supply through Rapha. Those talks were fruitless.

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Maybe Israel should allow aid through the other 90% of the border not controlled by Egypt.

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Israel should not be sending aid into Hamas controlled territory without tight controls to keep it away from Hamas.. That will just prolong the suffering of the people ruled by Hamas.

Sam Lowry said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Assassin said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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the same people that have been lying to you are lying to you.

https://nypost.com/2025/07/29/media/new-york-times-stunningly-rolls-back-claims-about-viral-photo-of-starving-gaza-boy/

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You're kidding. The media is lying to us? What will they do next, tell us that Hamas is not stealing the food meant for Gaza residents?

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No Proof Hamas Routinely Stole U.N. Aid, Israeli Military Officials Say
By Natan Odenheimer
July 26, 2025

For nearly two years, Israel has accused Hamas of stealing aid provided by the United Nations and other international organizations. The government has used that claim as its main rationale for restricting food from entering Gaza.

But the Israeli military never found proof that the Palestinian militant group had systematically stolen aid from the United Nations, the biggest supplier of emergency assistance to Gaza for most of the war, according to two senior Israeli military officials and two other Israelis involved in the matter.

In fact, the Israeli military officials said, the U.N. aid delivery system, which Israel derided and undermined, was largely effective in providing food to Gaza's desperate and hungry population.

The military officials who spoke to The New York Times said that the original U.N. aid operation was relatively reliable and less vulnerable to Hamas interference than the operations of many of the other groups bringing aid into Gaza. That's largely because the United Nations managed its own supply chain and handled distribution directly inside Gaza.

Hamas did steal from some of the smaller organizations that donated aid, as those groups were not always on the ground to oversee distribution, according to the senior Israeli officials and others involved in the matter. But, they say, there was no evidence that Hamas regularly stole from the United Nations, which provided the largest chunk of the aid.

An internal U.S. government analysis came to a similar conclusion, Reuters reported on Friday. It found no evidence of systematic Hamas theft of U.S.-funded humanitarian supplies, the report said.

"For months, we and other organizations were dragged through the mud by accusations that Hamas steals from us," said Georgios Petropoulos, a former U.N. official in Gaza who oversaw aid coordination with Israel for nearly 13 months of war.

Mr. Petropoulos, the former U.N. official in Gaza, welcomed the notion that some Israeli officials had recognized the U.N.-led aid system as effective during the war. But he said he wished that endorsement had come much sooner.

"If the U.N. had been taken at face value months ago, we wouldn't have wasted all this time and Gazans wouldn't be starving and being shot at trying to feed their families," he said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/world/middleeast/hamas-un-aid-theft.html

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You can believe Hamas or you can believe your own eyes ... but I'm sure like Biden it's just a deepfake.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-862584

How many times do they have to lie to you before you stop trusting them?

---

More dishonest cherry-picking, much like your pretending that one child with a "pre-existing condition" refutes hundreds of reports of malnutrition and starvation. The desperate rhetorical tactics of the morally bankrupt.

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Okay Bagdad Bob.

You keep quoting Hamas like it is an honest actor.

If kids were actually starving the anti-Jewish media would not have to post disinformation.

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I have not once quoted Hamas. This particular source was from the Israeli military.

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Can you share the years this man served and rank this man achieved in the Israeli military? I'll admit, his name sounds very Semitic, so it seems legit.

said Georgios Petropoulos, a former U.N. official in Gaza who oversaw aid coordination with Israel for nearly 13 months of war.

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He's a commentator for the article, not a source, much less a Hamas source.

I'm not even here to argue, so flail away. History will bear witness. You and your friends only condemn yourselves with every disingenuous post.

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Yeah, you've spread so much disinformation you would make the real Bagdad Bob blush ... you're not here to argue. You just hate Jews.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Sam Lowry said:

---

Harrison Bergeron said:

---

Sam Lowry said:

---

Assassin said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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the same people that have been lying to you are lying to you.

https://nypost.com/2025/07/29/media/new-york-times-stunningly-rolls-back-claims-about-viral-photo-of-starving-gaza-boy/

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You're kidding. The media is lying to us? What will they do next, tell us that Hamas is not stealing the food meant for Gaza residents?

---

No Proof Hamas Routinely Stole U.N. Aid, Israeli Military Officials Say
By Natan Odenheimer
July 26, 2025

For nearly two years, Israel has accused Hamas of stealing aid provided by the United Nations and other international organizations. The government has used that claim as its main rationale for restricting food from entering Gaza.

But the Israeli military never found proof that the Palestinian militant group had systematically stolen aid from the United Nations, the biggest supplier of emergency assistance to Gaza for most of the war, according to two senior Israeli military officials and two other Israelis involved in the matter.

In fact, the Israeli military officials said, the U.N. aid delivery system, which Israel derided and undermined, was largely effective in providing food to Gaza's desperate and hungry population.

The military officials who spoke to The New York Times said that the original U.N. aid operation was relatively reliable and less vulnerable to Hamas interference than the operations of many of the other groups bringing aid into Gaza. That's largely because the United Nations managed its own supply chain and handled distribution directly inside Gaza.

Hamas did steal from some of the smaller organizations that donated aid, as those groups were not always on the ground to oversee distribution, according to the senior Israeli officials and others involved in the matter. But, they say, there was no evidence that Hamas regularly stole from the United Nations, which provided the largest chunk of the aid.

An internal U.S. government analysis came to a similar conclusion, Reuters reported on Friday. It found no evidence of systematic Hamas theft of U.S.-funded humanitarian supplies, the report said.

"For months, we and other organizations were dragged through the mud by accusations that Hamas steals from us," said Georgios Petropoulos, a former U.N. official in Gaza who oversaw aid coordination with Israel for nearly 13 months of war.

Mr. Petropoulos, the former U.N. official in Gaza, welcomed the notion that some Israeli officials had recognized the U.N.-led aid system as effective during the war. But he said he wished that endorsement had come much sooner.

"If the U.N. had been taken at face value months ago, we wouldn't have wasted all this time and Gazans wouldn't be starving and being shot at trying to feed their families," he said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/world/middleeast/hamas-un-aid-theft.html

---

You can believe Hamas or you can believe your own eyes ... but I'm sure like Biden it's just a deepfake.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-862584

How many times do they have to lie to you before you stop trusting them?

---

More dishonest cherry-picking, much like your pretending that one child with a "pre-existing condition" refutes hundreds of reports of malnutrition and starvation. The desperate rhetorical tactics of the morally bankrupt.

---

Okay Bagdad Bob.

You keep quoting Hamas like it is an honest actor.

If kids were actually starving the anti-Jewish media would not have to post disinformation.

---

I have not once quoted Hamas. This particular source was from the Israeli military.

---

Can you share the years this man served and rank this man achieved in the Israeli military? I'll admit, his name sounds very Semitic, so it seems legit.

said Georgios Petropoulos, a former U.N. official in Gaza who oversaw aid coordination with Israel for nearly 13 months of war.

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He's a commentator for the article, not a source, much less a Hamas source.

I'm not even here to argue, so flail away. History will bear witness. You and your friends only condemn yourselves with every disingenuous post.

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Yeah, you've spread so much disinformation you would make the real Bagdad Bob blush ... you're not here to argue. You just hate Jews.

---

Sorry to put you on ignore with the rest of the liars, but I've decided not to tolerate that slander any longer. You should perhaps think about why your own guilt compels you to say things you know aren't true.

EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Egyptian news outlets reported that Israeli officials were in Egypt last week trying to work a food supply through Rapha. Those talks were fruitless.

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Maybe Israel should allow aid through the other 90% of the border not controlled by Egypt.

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Israel should not be sending aid into Hamas controlled territory without tight controls to keep it away from Hamas.. That will just prolong the suffering of the people ruled by Hamas.

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The UN was sending lots of aid with tight controls. Israel is doing neither...by design.

EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

---

Harrison Bergeron said:

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Sam Lowry said:

---

Assassin said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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the same people that have been lying to you are lying to you.

https://nypost.com/2025/07/29/media/new-york-times-stunningly-rolls-back-claims-about-viral-photo-of-starving-gaza-boy/

---

You're kidding. The media is lying to us? What will they do next, tell us that Hamas is not stealing the food meant for Gaza residents?

---

No Proof Hamas Routinely Stole U.N. Aid, Israeli Military Officials Say
By Natan Odenheimer
July 26, 2025

For nearly two years, Israel has accused Hamas of stealing aid provided by the United Nations and other international organizations. The government has used that claim as its main rationale for restricting food from entering Gaza.

But the Israeli military never found proof that the Palestinian militant group had systematically stolen aid from the United Nations, the biggest supplier of emergency assistance to Gaza for most of the war, according to two senior Israeli military officials and two other Israelis involved in the matter.

In fact, the Israeli military officials said, the U.N. aid delivery system, which Israel derided and undermined, was largely effective in providing food to Gaza's desperate and hungry population.

The military officials who spoke to The New York Times said that the original U.N. aid operation was relatively reliable and less vulnerable to Hamas interference than the operations of many of the other groups bringing aid into Gaza. That's largely because the United Nations managed its own supply chain and handled distribution directly inside Gaza.

Hamas did steal from some of the smaller organizations that donated aid, as those groups were not always on the ground to oversee distribution, according to the senior Israeli officials and others involved in the matter. But, they say, there was no evidence that Hamas regularly stole from the United Nations, which provided the largest chunk of the aid.

An internal U.S. government analysis came to a similar conclusion, Reuters reported on Friday. It found no evidence of systematic Hamas theft of U.S.-funded humanitarian supplies, the report said.

"For months, we and other organizations were dragged through the mud by accusations that Hamas steals from us," said Georgios Petropoulos, a former U.N. official in Gaza who oversaw aid coordination with Israel for nearly 13 months of war.

Mr. Petropoulos, the former U.N. official in Gaza, welcomed the notion that some Israeli officials had recognized the U.N.-led aid system as effective during the war. But he said he wished that endorsement had come much sooner.

"If the U.N. had been taken at face value months ago, we wouldn't have wasted all this time and Gazans wouldn't be starving and being shot at trying to feed their families," he said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/world/middleeast/hamas-un-aid-theft.html

---

You can believe Hamas or you can believe your own eyes ... but I'm sure like Biden it's just a deepfake.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-862584

How many times do they have to lie to you before you stop trusting them?

---

More dishonest cherry-picking, much like your pretending that one child with a "pre-existing condition" refutes hundreds of reports of malnutrition and starvation. The desperate rhetorical tactics of the morally bankrupt.

---

No one on this board, including you, can claim superiority over another due to cherry picking on this subject (or most others). There are numerous news outlets contradicting each other. I don't see anyone posting news from all sides, I do see counter news from many sides on this thread. The big problem is the poor access in Gaza by third parties to know what really is and isn't. Not that unusual in war. See fog of war descriptions.

What many of us are relying on to weed through this is the history of Hamas' treatment of their people and Israelis.

Hamas' policies have kept their people in poverty and under the gun for decades now. They cannot live with an Israeli state. Period. It's in their stated goals. October 7 2023 is just another horrid proof.

Gaza since Israeli disengagement:
Israeli Disengagement and the Rise of Hamas
In 2005, Israel withdrew its military and dismantled settlements in the Gaza Strip under the Israeli Disengagement Plan. This move was seen by some as a step toward peace, but the situation in Gaza remained volatile. After Israel's withdrawal, internal divisions between Fatah (the dominant faction within the Palestinian Authority) and Hamas escalated.
In 2006, Hamas won the Palestinian legislative elections, leading to a political standoff with Fatah. In 2007, Hamas took control of Gaza through a violent conflict with Fatah, splitting the Palestinian territories into Hamas-ruled Gaza and Fatah-controlled West Bank areas.

The Siege of Gaza history and Humanitarian Crisis
Hamas took control of Gaza in 2007, prompting Israel and Egypt to impose a blockade that restricts the movement of goods and people. Consequently, this siege has led to economic collapse and severe shortages of food, medicine, and electricity, deepening the humanitarian crisis.
Periodic conflicts between Hamas and Israel, including major offensives in 2008-2009, 2012, and 2014, have caused thousands of casualties on both sides.Gaza's history reveals that conflict has repeatedly damaged or destroyed its infrastructure, including schools, hospitals, and homes. Consequently, the siege and ongoing conflicts have left Gaza's 2 million residents in dire conditions, facing high levels of poverty, unemployment, and food insecurity.
(above from recent Palestine Talk article)

Hamas spokespeople have consistently been proven to lie to the international public.

Egypt wants nothing to do with them either.
Egyptian border with Gaza:


When Israel pushed into Gaza, Egypt made sure with their military that Palestinians would not flee to Sinai according to Reuters.

Hamas has intentionally used civilians as shields throughout its tenure. It is no surprise to see that in the conflict at hand.
Hamas has used Gaza hospitals for military operations

NYT on (Biden Administartion) American intelligence that Hamas used Gaza Hospital

Mortars were used by Palestinians to attack the US pier to Gaza. That's not a civilian attack - which did also happen during the first delivery of food. There are LOTS of articles about the US pier that confirm this.

Hamas has been robbing the local Gazans for many years.

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By all accounts, Israel is letting in a small fraction of what's needed. If Hamas stole all of it or none of it, the result would be basically the same.

Sam Lowry said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Sam Lowry said:

---

Harrison Bergeron said:

---

Sam Lowry said:

---

Harrison Bergeron said:

---

Sam Lowry said:

---

Assassin said:

---

Harrison Bergeron said:

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the same people that have been lying to you are lying to you.

https://nypost.com/2025/07/29/media/new-york-times-stunningly-rolls-back-claims-about-viral-photo-of-starving-gaza-boy/

---

You're kidding. The media is lying to us? What will they do next, tell us that Hamas is not stealing the food meant for Gaza residents?

---

No Proof Hamas Routinely Stole U.N. Aid, Israeli Military Officials Say
By Natan Odenheimer
July 26, 2025

For nearly two years, Israel has accused Hamas of stealing aid provided by the United Nations and other international organizations. The government has used that claim as its main rationale for restricting food from entering Gaza.

But the Israeli military never found proof that the Palestinian militant group had systematically stolen aid from the United Nations, the biggest supplier of emergency assistance to Gaza for most of the war, according to two senior Israeli military officials and two other Israelis involved in the matter.

In fact, the Israeli military officials said, the U.N. aid delivery system, which Israel derided and undermined, was largely effective in providing food to Gaza's desperate and hungry population.

The military officials who spoke to The New York Times said that the original U.N. aid operation was relatively reliable and less vulnerable to Hamas interference than the operations of many of the other groups bringing aid into Gaza. That's largely because the United Nations managed its own supply chain and handled distribution directly inside Gaza.

Hamas did steal from some of the smaller organizations that donated aid, as those groups were not always on the ground to oversee distribution, according to the senior Israeli officials and others involved in the matter. But, they say, there was no evidence that Hamas regularly stole from the United Nations, which provided the largest chunk of the aid.

An internal U.S. government analysis came to a similar conclusion, Reuters reported on Friday. It found no evidence of systematic Hamas theft of U.S.-funded humanitarian supplies, the report said.

"For months, we and other organizations were dragged through the mud by accusations that Hamas steals from us," said Georgios Petropoulos, a former U.N. official in Gaza who oversaw aid coordination with Israel for nearly 13 months of war.

Mr. Petropoulos, the former U.N. official in Gaza, welcomed the notion that some Israeli officials had recognized the U.N.-led aid system as effective during the war. But he said he wished that endorsement had come much sooner.

"If the U.N. had been taken at face value months ago, we wouldn't have wasted all this time and Gazans wouldn't be starving and being shot at trying to feed their families," he said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/world/middleeast/hamas-un-aid-theft.html

---

You can believe Hamas or you can believe your own eyes ... but I'm sure like Biden it's just a deepfake.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-862584

How many times do they have to lie to you before you stop trusting them?

---

More dishonest cherry-picking, much like your pretending that one child with a "pre-existing condition" refutes hundreds of reports of malnutrition and starvation. The desperate rhetorical tactics of the morally bankrupt.

---

Okay Bagdad Bob.

You keep quoting Hamas like it is an honest actor.

If kids were actually starving the anti-Jewish media would not have to post disinformation.

---

I have not once quoted Hamas. This particular source was from the Israeli military.

---

Can you share the years this man served and rank this man achieved in the Israeli military? I'll admit, his name sounds very Semitic, so it seems legit.

said Georgios Petropoulos, a former U.N. official in Gaza who oversaw aid coordination with Israel for nearly 13 months of war.

---

He's a commentator for the article, not a source, much less a Hamas source.

I'm not even here to argue, so flail away. History will bear witness. You and your friends only condemn yourselves with every disingenuous post.

---

Yeah, you've spread so much disinformation you would make the real Bagdad Bob blush ... you're not here to argue. You just hate Jews.

---

Sorry to put you on ignore with the rest of the liars, but I've decided not to tolerate that slander any longer. You should perhaps think about why your own guilt compels you to say things you know aren't true.

---

I'm touched Hamas Harry. Your Jew hating knows no bound. (And learn the difference between slander and libel ... it makes you a fool)

Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

---

Sam Lowry said:

---

Harrison Bergeron said:

---

Sam Lowry said:

---

Assassin said:

---

Harrison Bergeron said:

---

the same people that have been lying to you are lying to you.

https://nypost.com/2025/07/29/media/new-york-times-stunningly-rolls-back-claims-about-viral-photo-of-starving-gaza-boy/

---

You're kidding. The media is lying to us? What will they do next, tell us that Hamas is not stealing the food meant for Gaza residents?

---

No Proof Hamas Routinely Stole U.N. Aid, Israeli Military Officials Say
By Natan Odenheimer
July 26, 2025

For nearly two years, Israel has accused Hamas of stealing aid provided by the United Nations and other international organizations. The government has used that claim as its main rationale for restricting food from entering Gaza.

But the Israeli military never found proof that the Palestinian militant group had systematically stolen aid from the United Nations, the biggest supplier of emergency assistance to Gaza for most of the war, according to two senior Israeli military officials and two other Israelis involved in the matter.

In fact, the Israeli military officials said, the U.N. aid delivery system, which Israel derided and undermined, was largely effective in providing food to Gaza's desperate and hungry population.

The military officials who spoke to The New York Times said that the original U.N. aid operation was relatively reliable and less vulnerable to Hamas interference than the operations of many of the other groups bringing aid into Gaza. That's largely because the United Nations managed its own supply chain and handled distribution directly inside Gaza.

Hamas did steal from some of the smaller organizations that donated aid, as those groups were not always on the ground to oversee distribution, according to the senior Israeli officials and others involved in the matter. But, they say, there was no evidence that Hamas regularly stole from the United Nations, which provided the largest chunk of the aid.

An internal U.S. government analysis came to a similar conclusion, Reuters reported on Friday. It found no evidence of systematic Hamas theft of U.S.-funded humanitarian supplies, the report said.

"For months, we and other organizations were dragged through the mud by accusations that Hamas steals from us," said Georgios Petropoulos, a former U.N. official in Gaza who oversaw aid coordination with Israel for nearly 13 months of war.

Mr. Petropoulos, the former U.N. official in Gaza, welcomed the notion that some Israeli officials had recognized the U.N.-led aid system as effective during the war. But he said he wished that endorsement had come much sooner.

"If the U.N. had been taken at face value months ago, we wouldn't have wasted all this time and Gazans wouldn't be starving and being shot at trying to feed their families," he said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/world/middleeast/hamas-un-aid-theft.html

---

You can believe Hamas or you can believe your own eyes ... but I'm sure like Biden it's just a deepfake.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-862584

How many times do they have to lie to you before you stop trusting them?

---

More dishonest cherry-picking, much like your pretending that one child with a "pre-existing condition" refutes hundreds of reports of malnutrition and starvation. The desperate rhetorical tactics of the morally bankrupt.

---

No one on this board, including you, can claim superiority over another due to cherry picking on this subject (or most others). There are numerous news outlets contradicting each other. I don't see anyone posting news from all sides, I do see counter news from many sides on this thread. The big problem is the poor access in Gaza by third parties to know what really is and isn't. Not that unusual in war. See fog of war descriptions.

What many of us are relying on to weed through this is the history of Hamas' treatment of their people and Israelis.

Hamas' policies have kept their people in poverty and under the gun for decades now. They cannot live with an Israeli state. Period. It's in their stated goals. October 7 2023 is just another horrid proof.

Gaza since Israeli disengagement:
Israeli Disengagement and the Rise of Hamas
In 2005, Israel withdrew its military and dismantled settlements in the Gaza Strip under the Israeli Disengagement Plan. This move was seen by some as a step toward peace, but the situation in Gaza remained volatile. After Israel's withdrawal, internal divisions between Fatah (the dominant faction within the Palestinian Authority) and Hamas escalated.
In 2006, Hamas won the Palestinian legislative elections, leading to a political standoff with Fatah. In 2007, Hamas took control of Gaza through a violent conflict with Fatah, splitting the Palestinian territories into Hamas-ruled Gaza and Fatah-controlled West Bank areas.

The Siege of Gaza history and Humanitarian Crisis
Hamas took control of Gaza in 2007, prompting Israel and Egypt to impose a blockade that restricts the movement of goods and people. Consequently, this siege has led to economic collapse and severe shortages of food, medicine, and electricity, deepening the humanitarian crisis.
Periodic conflicts between Hamas and Israel, including major offensives in 2008-2009, 2012, and 2014, have caused thousands of casualties on both sides.Gaza's history reveals that conflict has repeatedly damaged or destroyed its infrastructure, including schools, hospitals, and homes. Consequently, the siege and ongoing conflicts have left Gaza's 2 million residents in dire conditions, facing high levels of poverty, unemployment, and food insecurity.
(above from recent Palestine Talk article)

Hamas spokespeople have consistently been proven to lie to the international public.

Egypt wants nothing to do with them either.
Egyptian border with Gaza:


When Israel pushed into Gaza, Egypt made sure with their military that Palestinians would not flee to Sinai according to Reuters.

Hamas has intentionally used civilians as shields throughout its tenure. It is no surprise to see that in the conflict at hand.
Hamas has used Gaza hospitals for military operations

NYT on (Biden Administartion) American intelligence that Hamas used Gaza Hospital

Mortars were used by Palestinians to attack the US pier to Gaza. That's not a civilian attack - which did also happen during the first delivery of food. There are LOTS of articles about the US pier that confirm this.

Hamas has been robbing the local Gazans for many years.

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By all accounts, Israel is letting in a small fraction of what's needed. If Hamas stole all of it or none of it, the result would be basically the same.

---

Hamas Harry strikes again.

Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Egyptian news outlets reported that Israeli officials were in Egypt last week trying to work a food supply through Rapha. Those talks were fruitless.

---

Maybe Israel should allow aid through the other 90% of the border not controlled by Egypt.

---

Israel should not be sending aid into Hamas controlled territory without tight controls to keep it away from Hamas.. That will just prolong the suffering of the people ruled by Hamas.

---

The UN was sending lots of aid with tight controls. Israel is doing neither...by design.

---

Hamas Harry strikes again.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

---

Sam Lowry said:

---

Harrison Bergeron said:

---

Sam Lowry said:

---

Harrison Bergeron said:

---

Sam Lowry said:

---

Harrison Bergeron said:

---

Sam Lowry said:

---

Assassin said:

---

Harrison Bergeron said:

---

the same people that have been lying to you are lying to you.

https://nypost.com/2025/07/29/media/new-york-times-stunningly-rolls-back-claims-about-viral-photo-of-starving-gaza-boy/

---

You're kidding. The media is lying to us? What will they do next, tell us that Hamas is not stealing the food meant for Gaza residents?

---

No Proof Hamas Routinely Stole U.N. Aid, Israeli Military Officials Say
By Natan Odenheimer
July 26, 2025

For nearly two years, Israel has accused Hamas of stealing aid provided by the United Nations and other international organizations. The government has used that claim as its main rationale for restricting food from entering Gaza.

But the Israeli military never found proof that the Palestinian militant group had systematically stolen aid from the United Nations, the biggest supplier of emergency assistance to Gaza for most of the war, according to two senior Israeli military officials and two other Israelis involved in the matter.

In fact, the Israeli military officials said, the U.N. aid delivery system, which Israel derided and undermined, was largely effective in providing food to Gaza's desperate and hungry population.

The military officials who spoke to The New York Times said that the original U.N. aid operation was relatively reliable and less vulnerable to Hamas interference than the operations of many of the other groups bringing aid into Gaza. That's largely because the United Nations managed its own supply chain and handled distribution directly inside Gaza.

Hamas did steal from some of the smaller organizations that donated aid, as those groups were not always on the ground to oversee distribution, according to the senior Israeli officials and others involved in the matter. But, they say, there was no evidence that Hamas regularly stole from the United Nations, which provided the largest chunk of the aid.

An internal U.S. government analysis came to a similar conclusion, Reuters reported on Friday. It found no evidence of systematic Hamas theft of U.S.-funded humanitarian supplies, the report said.

"For months, we and other organizations were dragged through the mud by accusations that Hamas steals from us," said Georgios Petropoulos, a former U.N. official in Gaza who oversaw aid coordination with Israel for nearly 13 months of war.

Mr. Petropoulos, the former U.N. official in Gaza, welcomed the notion that some Israeli officials had recognized the U.N.-led aid system as effective during the war. But he said he wished that endorsement had come much sooner.

"If the U.N. had been taken at face value months ago, we wouldn't have wasted all this time and Gazans wouldn't be starving and being shot at trying to feed their families," he said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/world/middleeast/hamas-un-aid-theft.html

---

You can believe Hamas or you can believe your own eyes ... but I'm sure like Biden it's just a deepfake.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-862584

How many times do they have to lie to you before you stop trusting them?

---

More dishonest cherry-picking, much like your pretending that one child with a "pre-existing condition" refutes hundreds of reports of malnutrition and starvation. The desperate rhetorical tactics of the morally bankrupt.

---

Okay Bagdad Bob.

You keep quoting Hamas like it is an honest actor.

If kids were actually starving the anti-Jewish media would not have to post disinformation.

---

I have not once quoted Hamas. This particular source was from the Israeli military.

---

Can you share the years this man served and rank this man achieved in the Israeli military? I'll admit, his name sounds very Semitic, so it seems legit.

said Georgios Petropoulos, a former U.N. official in Gaza who oversaw aid coordination with Israel for nearly 13 months of war.

---

He's a commentator for the article, not a source, much less a Hamas source.

I'm not even here to argue, so flail away. History will bear witness. You and your friends only condemn yourselves with every disingenuous post.

---

Yeah, you've spread so much disinformation you would make the real Bagdad Bob blush ... you're not here to argue. You just hate Jews.

---

Sorry to put you on ignore with the rest of the liars, but I've decided not to tolerate that slander any longer. You should perhaps think about why your own guilt compels you to say things you know aren't true.

---

I'm touched Hamas Harry. Your Jew hating knows no bound. (And learn the difference between slander and libel ... it makes you a fool)

---

He has turned into a hardcore liberal in the past few months, hasnt he

Israel's "Freedom Party" was the forerunner of today's Likud. The genocide in Gaza is a predictable result of their fascist ideology, along with that of Trump and his allies in the US.

Quote:

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TO THE EDITORS OF NEW YORK TIMES

Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine.

The current visit of Menachem Begin, leader of this party, to the United States is obviously calculated to give the impression of American support for his party in the coming Israeli elections, and to cement political ties with conservative Zionist elements in the United States. Several Americans of national repute have lent their names to welcome his visit. It is inconceivable that those who oppose fascism throughout the world, if correctly informed as to Mr. Begin's political record and perspectives, could add their names and support to the movement he represents.

Before irreparable damage is done by way of financial contributions, public manifestations in Begin's behalf, and the creation in Palestine of the impression that a large segment of America supports Fascist elements in Israel, the American public must be informed as to the record and objectives of Mr. Begin and his movement.

The public avowals of Begin's party are no guide whatever to its actual character. Today they speak of freedom, democracy and anti-imperialism, whereas until recently they openly preached the doctrine of the Fascist state. It is in its actions that the terrorist party betrays its real character; from its past actions we can judge what it may be expected to do in the future.

Attack on Arab Village

A shocking example was their behavior in the Arab village of Deir Yassin. This village, off the main roads and surrounded by Jewish lands, had taken no part in the war, and had even fought off Arab bands who wanted to use the village as their base. On April 9 (THE NEW YORK TIMES), terrorist bands attacked this peaceful village, which was not a military objective in the fighting, killed most of its inhabitants (240 men, women, and children) and kept a few of them alive to parade as captives through the streets of Jerusalem. Most of the Jewish community was horrified at the deed, and the Jewish Agency sent a telegram of apology to King Abdullah of Trans-Jordan. But the terrorists, far from being ashamed of their act, were proud of this massacre, publicized it widely, and invited all the foreign correspondents present in the country to view the heaped corpses and the general havoc at Deir Yassin.

The Deir Yassin incident exemplifies the character and actions of the Freedom Party.

Within the Jewish community they have preached an admixture of ultranationalism, religious mysticism, and racial superiority. Like other Fascist parties they have been used to break strikes, and have themselves pressed for the destruction of free trade unions. In their stead they have proposed corporate unions on the Italian Fascist model.

During the last years of sporadic anti-British violence, the IZL and Stern groups inaugurated a reign of terror in the Palestine Jewish community. Teachers were beaten up for speaking against them, adults were shot for not letting their children join them. By gangster methods, beatings, window-smashing, and wide-spread robberies, the terrorists intimidated the population and exacted a heavy tribute.

The people of the Freedom Party have had no part in the constructive achievements in Palestine. They have reclaimed no land, built no settlements, and only detracted from the Jewish defense activity. Their much-publicized immigration endeavors were minute, and devoted mainly to bringing in Fascist compatriots.

Discrepancies Seen

The discrepancies between the bold claims now being made by Begin and his party, and their record of past performance in Palestine bear the imprint of no ordinary political party. This is the unmistakable stamp of a Fascist party for whom terrorism (against Jews, Arabs, and British alike), and misrepresentation are means, and a "Leader State" is the goal.

In the light of the foregoing considerations, it is imperative that the truth about Mr. Begin and his movement be made known in this country. It is all the more tragic that the top leadership of American Zionism has refused to campaign against Begin's efforts, or even to expose to its own constituents the dangers to Israel from support to Begin.

The undersigned therefore take this means of publicly presenting a few salient facts concerning Begin and his party; and of urging all concerned not to support this latest manifestation of fascism.

ISIDORE ABRAMOWITZ,
HANNAH ARENDT,
ABRAHAM BRICK,
RABBI JESSURUN CARDOZO,
ALBERT EINSTEIN,
HERMAN EISEN, M.D.,
HAYIM FINEMAN, M. GALLEN, M.D.,
H.H. HARRIS,
ZELIG S. HARRIS,
SIDNEY HOOK,
FRED KARUSH,
BRURIA KAUFMAN,
IRMA L. LINDHEIM,
NACHMAN MAISEL,
SEYMOUR MELMAN,
MYER D. MENDELSON, M.D.,
HARRY M. OSLINSKY,
SAMUEL PITLICK,
FRITZ ROHRLICH,
LOUIS P. ROCKER,
RUTH SAGIS,
ITZHAK SANKOWSKY,
I.J. SHOENBERG,
SAMUEL SHUMAN,
M. SINGER,
IRMA WOLFE,
STEFAN WOLFE.

New York, Dec. 2, 1948

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I'm A Genocide Scholar. I Know It When I See It.
By Omer Bartov
July, 15 2025

My inescapable conclusion has become that Israel is committing genocide against the Palestinian people. Having grown up in a Zionist home, lived the first half of my life in Israel, served in the I.D.F. as a soldier and officer and spent most of my career researching and writing on war crimes and the Holocaust, this was a painful conclusion to reach, and one that I resisted as long as I could. But I have been teaching classes on genocide for a quarter of a century. I can recognize one when I see one.

This is not just my conclusion. A growing number of experts in genocide studies and international law have concluded that Israel's actions in Gaza can only be defined as genocide. So has Francesca Albanese, the U.N. special rapporteur for the West Bank and Gaza, and Amnesty International. South Africa has brought a genocide case against Israel at the International Court of Justice.

The continued denial of this designation by states, international organizations and legal and scholarly experts will cause unmitigated damage not just to the people of Gaza and Israel but also to the system of international law established in the wake of the horrors of the Holocaust, designed to prevent such atrocities from happening ever again. It is a threat to the very foundations of the moral order on which we all depend.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/15/opinion/israel-gaza-holocaust-genocide-palestinians.html

Hamas Harry running the same disinformation playbook he did during covid.
1. Ignore primary data and first hand evidence
2. Cite "experts" that tell you to doubt your lying eyes
3. Ignore or debase all challengers

"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. His heart sank as he thought of the enormous power arrayed against him, the ease with which any Party intellectual would overthrow him in debate, the subtle arguments which he would not be able to understand, much less answer. And yet he was in the right! They were wrong and he was right." - George Orwell

Harry sold his brain and soul for The Party.

Gangs Sell UN Marked Food in Gaza Plazas

Hamas is stealing aid for themselves

Remember that the information that Hamas is not stealing food is coming from USAid, one of the more corrupt Democrat US Taxpayer Sinkholes

Assassin said:

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Hamas is stealing aid for themselves

Remember that the information that Hamas is not stealing food is coming from USAid, one of the more corrupt Democrat US Taxpayer Sinkholes

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During covid Hamas Harry surrendered all of his thought to the state no matter how many times it has lied.