Tucker's attempt to normalize Nick Fuentes

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Sam Lowry said:

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I couldn't guess what kind of predictions you've attributed to me in your mind, but my record is pretty good.


Your record sucks. You were right about Iraq. It's been a decade now since one of your chicken little predictions came true.

This will be yet another.

No worries. It took you well over a decade to see the light on Iraq, too.

As the saying goes, even the sun shines on a dog's arse some days.
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Realitybites said:

TexasScientist said:


White supremacy is not defined solely by explicit harm or deportation. The belief that America should be preserved as a "white demographic core" is, by definition, racial hierarchy where one race's dominance is treated as preferable or necessary. That's white supremacist ideology even if it's framed politely or religiously.

If all people are equal, "equal in God's eyes",



Well, I guess that makes me the brownest white supremacist in America.

All people are created equal, or all people are equal in God's eyes does not mean all people are the same.

You only have to look at the rosters of the NFL or NBA to determine that to be the case.

Or the fact that outside of DEI efforts, the student bodies of America's colleges and universities would be almost exclusively "white" and "asian" (to use the classifications created to service those same DEI programs).

If you've never read the book "The Bell Curve", I strongly recommend it.

Do you believe America should intentionally preserve white demographic dominance as a goal?

If yes, that's white supremacist ideology by definition. If no, then you disagree with Fuentes.

Everything else - sports analogies, DEI complaints, IQ books - is noise.
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Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

Robert Wilson said:

muddybrazos said:

Robert Wilson said:

muddybrazos said:

Robert Wilson said:

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This guy is a pos grifter. He could not hold Vivek's jockstrap.


Maybe. So is Vivek, people forget he's a pharma grifter


Vivek was a successful businessman. He's also smart as ***** He would humiliate Nick in any sort of debate format.

Ya, he successfully did a pharma pump n dump scam. He's never created anything of value. He desrves to lose the gov race and any other repub going against him should win instead.

Uh huh. Let's compare Vivek's bio to yours. He accomplished more by his mid 20s than you likely ever will. It would be a waste of my time to list off a bunch of things you don't even recognize much less understand.

Anyone whining about "the jews" and/or "the boomers" and saying Vivek "just did a pump n dump scam" has their head so far up their ass that the jaws of life won't remove it.

https://www.newsweek.com/vivek-ramaswamy-fraud-always-has-been-opinion-1823853

Maybe you need familarize yourself with Vivek a little more bc he absolutely did a pump and dump and it harmed a lot of investors but he made a lot of money. I dont know why youre attacking me and you dont know the first thing about me and my career.

Ok. Now go do Trump. Take a highly successful, incredibly active and generative person, and cherry pick something out of their past to spin into a story about how terrible they are. It's easy to do, but typically people who are out kicking ass on their own aren't the ones who engage in that sort of thing.


Since you are on here acting holier than thou and casting stones you must be extremely successful Robert. How many Fortune500 companies have you sold? How many billions have you made? How many buildings on Baylor's campus are named after you?

P.S. Any ill gotten money made by working with Israel to scam the American tax payer doesn't count


Seriously dude. Your hyper focus on all things jew is just sick.

You do realize that Christ was a Jew, right? Damn, some of you people. Remind me not to stand next to any of you guys.


Americans can't criticize the corrupt foreign country of Israel... got it.

And we've gone over this. I'm an atheist so the Christ being a jew line isnt going to manipulate nor paralyze me from calling out evil.



Respectfully an atheist lacks the moral compass to be the judge of what is evil

Christians have no monopoly on moral judgment. We often get it wrong, while atheists often get it right.


Depends on how you define Christian. I suspect our definitions differ significantly. A true Christian led by the spirit is in much better position to decide moral issues.

I will grant you that some atheists may be morally correct on some issues . But they lack the overall moral compass to be right on many issues.


Saying "the Spirit leads me" is not a moral standard - it's a personal claim.

"Spirit-led morality" is indistinguishable from individual intuition filtered through culture and upbringing. A moral compass that can't be examined, tested, or challenged is not strong - it's less reliable

Having a moral compass means having a method for distinguishing right from wrong - not claiming divine certainty.

Atheists don't lack a moral compass, atheists lack an appeal to supernatural authority. Our moral reasoning is grounded in empathy, evidence, consequences, consistency, and human well-being. That's still a compass - just one that's accountable to reality rather than perceived revelation.

Christian history is notorious for profound disagreements over intolerance, slavery, rights of indigenous peoples, segregation, women's rights, LGBTQ rights, war, capital punishment, and even democracy - often while citing the same Bible and claiming the same Spirit.

If divine guidance guaranteed superior moral judgment, we wouldn't see such persistent, centuries-long moral disagreement among sincere "Spirit lead" Christians.


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Morality comes not from human reason or subjective spiritual claims, but from the revealed truth of God. Many unbelievers follow it in some respects, and many so-called believers violate it. Simply asserting one's own rationality or calling oneself a Christian doesn't make for a valid moral argument.
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TexasScientist said:

Realitybites said:

TexasScientist said:


White supremacy is not defined solely by explicit harm or deportation. The belief that America should be preserved as a "white demographic core" is, by definition, racial hierarchy where one race's dominance is treated as preferable or necessary. That's white supremacist ideology even if it's framed politely or religiously.

If all people are equal, "equal in God's eyes",



Well, I guess that makes me the brownest white supremacist in America.

All people are created equal, or all people are equal in God's eyes does not mean all people are the same.

You only have to look at the rosters of the NFL or NBA to determine that to be the case.

Or the fact that outside of DEI efforts, the student bodies of America's colleges and universities would be almost exclusively "white" and "asian" (to use the classifications created to service those same DEI programs).

If you've never read the book "The Bell Curve", I strongly recommend it.

Do you believe America should intentionally preserve white demographic dominance as a goal?

If yes, that's white supremacist ideology by definition. If no, then you disagree with Fuentes.

Everything else - sports analogies, DEI complaints, IQ books - is noise.

Typical FakeScientist, tries to pervert reasonable criticism to an effort for 'white demographic dominance'.

First an answer to the ANTIFA rep here: No, people here are not asserting pro-white racism, they are generally complaining about anti-white bigotry. That, of course, sets you off into 'Reeee!' mode.

We all teach our children to learn and respect a variety of heritages and cultures. We also teach that every person has the potential to add value to the community, and should be provided opportunities to create that value.

That said, racial quotas are plainly wrong, regardless of the group so advanced.

Demanding any demographic group be shamed for actions they personally never committed, or for statements they never personally said, is also plainly evil on its face.

Perverting the law to advance or punish any person on the basis of Race, Sex, Religion, or personal political opinion (in absence of criminal action such as violence) is something we should all oppose and defeat.

Those precepts, of course, are beyond FakeScientist's moral scope to grasp.
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Well said:

Mothra
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Sam Lowry said:

Morality comes not from human reason or subjective spiritual claims, but from the revealed truth of God. Many unbelievers follow it in some respects, and many so-called believers violate it. Simply asserting one's own rationality or calling oneself a Christian doesn't make for a valid moral argument.

We agree here.
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TexasScientist said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

Robert Wilson said:

muddybrazos said:

Robert Wilson said:

muddybrazos said:

Robert Wilson said:

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This guy is a pos grifter. He could not hold Vivek's jockstrap.


Maybe. So is Vivek, people forget he's a pharma grifter


Vivek was a successful businessman. He's also smart as ***** He would humiliate Nick in any sort of debate format.

Ya, he successfully did a pharma pump n dump scam. He's never created anything of value. He desrves to lose the gov race and any other repub going against him should win instead.

Uh huh. Let's compare Vivek's bio to yours. He accomplished more by his mid 20s than you likely ever will. It would be a waste of my time to list off a bunch of things you don't even recognize much less understand.

Anyone whining about "the jews" and/or "the boomers" and saying Vivek "just did a pump n dump scam" has their head so far up their ass that the jaws of life won't remove it.

https://www.newsweek.com/vivek-ramaswamy-fraud-always-has-been-opinion-1823853

Maybe you need familarize yourself with Vivek a little more bc he absolutely did a pump and dump and it harmed a lot of investors but he made a lot of money. I dont know why youre attacking me and you dont know the first thing about me and my career.

Ok. Now go do Trump. Take a highly successful, incredibly active and generative person, and cherry pick something out of their past to spin into a story about how terrible they are. It's easy to do, but typically people who are out kicking ass on their own aren't the ones who engage in that sort of thing.


Since you are on here acting holier than thou and casting stones you must be extremely successful Robert. How many Fortune500 companies have you sold? How many billions have you made? How many buildings on Baylor's campus are named after you?

P.S. Any ill gotten money made by working with Israel to scam the American tax payer doesn't count


Seriously dude. Your hyper focus on all things jew is just sick.

You do realize that Christ was a Jew, right? Damn, some of you people. Remind me not to stand next to any of you guys.


Americans can't criticize the corrupt foreign country of Israel... got it.

And we've gone over this. I'm an atheist so the Christ being a jew line isnt going to manipulate nor paralyze me from calling out evil.



Respectfully an atheist lacks the moral compass to be the judge of what is evil

Christians have no monopoly on moral judgment. We often get it wrong, while atheists often get it right.


Depends on how you define Christian. I suspect our definitions differ significantly. A true Christian led by the spirit is in much better position to decide moral issues.

I will grant you that some atheists may be morally correct on some issues . But they lack the overall moral compass to be right on many issues.


Saying "the Spirit leads me" is not a moral standard - it's a personal claim.

"Spirit-led morality" is indistinguishable from individual intuition filtered through culture and upbringing. A moral compass that can't be examined, tested, or challenged is not strong - it's less reliable

Having a moral compass means having a method for distinguishing right from wrong - not claiming divine certainty.

Atheists don't lack a moral compass, atheists lack an appeal to supernatural authority. Our moral reasoning is grounded in empathy, evidence, consequences, consistency, and human well-being. That's still a compass - just one that's accountable to reality rather than perceived revelation.

Christian history is notorious for profound disagreements over intolerance, slavery, rights of indigenous peoples, segregation, women's rights, LGBTQ rights, war, capital punishment, and even democracy - often while citing the same Bible and claiming the same Spirit.

If divine guidance guaranteed superior moral judgment, we wouldn't see such persistent, centuries-long moral disagreement among sincere "Spirit lead" Christians.




Respectfully, I would submit moral clarity comes from God alone, and not from human reason. In fact, human reason leads to some very dark places.
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Robert Wilson said:

Well said:



Indeed, this is very well said. But incredibly, we have purported conservatives on this very thread who will either sit it out or vote for someone else.

They would cut off their nose to spite their face.
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And now here we are. People are largely becoming dissatisfied with Republican's inability to do anything meaningful so they're beginning to bust out the "vote for me because I'm not Gavin Newsom" campaign slogan. It's an endless cycle.

The good news is you have just under a year until 2026 and a while to go until 2028. Better not waste the majority…
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BigGameBaylorBear said:

Republican's inability to do anything meaningful


We've gone from letting 20 million illegal immigrants roll across the border to pretty much completely shutting down illegal immigration while we are deporting large numbers of criminals. Your boy Gavin would do literally the opposite.

Crime statistics for this year are so much better than last year than it is almost unbelievable.

We got a tax bill passed. Had a few nice things in it. Certainly short of what I would like, but way better than the alternative.

Stock market is up. Gas is cheap. We rolled back a lot of the absurd climate scam regulations that were costing so much money and hampering productivity, especially on the energy side, which is great for both business and consumers.

What is it that you want Republicans to do?
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Robert Wilson said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Republican's inability to do anything meaningful


We've gone from letting 20 million illegal immigrants roll across the border to pretty much completely shutting down illegal immigration while we are deporting large numbers of criminals. Your boy Gavin would do literally the opposite.

Crime statistics for this year are so much better than last year than it is almost unbelievable.

We got a tax bill passed. Had a few nice things in it. Certainly short of what I would like, but way better than the alternative.

Stock market is up. Gas is cheap. We rolled back a lot of the absurd climate scam regulations that were costing so much money and hampering productivity, especially on the energy side, which is great for both business and consumers.

What is it that you want Republicans to do?


Let's start with those mass deportations, secure election laws, and begin prosecuting/impeaching these corrupt politicians. Minnesota is a great place to start
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BigGameBaylorBear said:

Robert Wilson said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Republican's inability to do anything meaningful


We've gone from letting 20 million illegal immigrants roll across the border to pretty much completely shutting down illegal immigration while we are deporting large numbers of criminals. Your boy Gavin would do literally the opposite.

Crime statistics for this year are so much better than last year than it is almost unbelievable.

We got a tax bill passed. Had a few nice things in it. Certainly short of what I would like, but way better than the alternative.

Stock market is up. Gas is cheap. We rolled back a lot of the absurd climate scam regulations that were costing so much money and hampering productivity, especially on the energy side, which is great for both business and consumers.

What is it that you want Republicans to do?


Let's start with those mass deportations, secure election laws, and begin prosecuting/impeaching these corrupt politicians. Minnesota is a great place to start

I am not sure if you're just not paying attention to the news, or if you just don't believe it.

Mass deportations are happening, just FYI. The Office of Homeland Security has reported that there have been 605,0000 deportations since Trump took office, less than a year ago. 1.9 million illegals have voluntarily left the country since he took office. That is a huge number in less than a year. So this idea that mass deportations aren't happening just isn't reality.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/12/10/thanks-president-trump-and-secretary-noem-more-25-million-illegal-aliens-left-us

As for election laws, numerous Republican states across the union have tightened election laws. And word is Congress is attempting to pass same, though given the numbers in congress, it might not happen.

As for impeaching or prosecuting people, the DOJ is prosecuting - or attempting to prosecute - numerous people responsible for the lawfare which has occurred the last few years, including Comey, Leticia James, etc.

So, again, it's just unclear what you were expecting. I'd say Trump has done a lot of the above in the less than year he's been in office. In fact, he's accomplished way more in these two areas than I expected, given the razor thin majority in congress.

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

And now here we are. People are largely becoming dissatisfied with Republican's inability to do anything meaningful so they're beginning to bust out the "vote for me because I'm not Gavin Newsom" campaign slogan. It's an endless cycle.

The good news is you have just under a year until 2026 and a while to go until 2028. Better not waste the majority…

Honestly, you just don't seem to be paying attention to the news, as pointed out above. I get the younger generation is an instant gratification culture, but these things take time, and I'd submit (as I did above) that Trump has done far more than most less than a year into his presidency.

You need to learn patience.

And hell yes, ANY Republican is far better than Gavin Newsom. Anyone that says otherwise is an uninformed idiot.
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Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Robert Wilson said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Republican's inability to do anything meaningful


We've gone from letting 20 million illegal immigrants roll across the border to pretty much completely shutting down illegal immigration while we are deporting large numbers of criminals. Your boy Gavin would do literally the opposite.

Crime statistics for this year are so much better than last year than it is almost unbelievable.

We got a tax bill passed. Had a few nice things in it. Certainly short of what I would like, but way better than the alternative.

Stock market is up. Gas is cheap. We rolled back a lot of the absurd climate scam regulations that were costing so much money and hampering productivity, especially on the energy side, which is great for both business and consumers.

What is it that you want Republicans to do?


Let's start with those mass deportations, secure election laws, and begin prosecuting/impeaching these corrupt politicians. Minnesota is a great place to start

I am not sure if you're just not paying attention to the news, or if you just don't believe it.

Mass deportations are happening, just FYI. The Office of Homeland Security has reported that there have been 605,0000 deportations since Trump took office, less than a year ago. 1.9 million illegals have voluntarily left the country since he took office. That is a huge number in less than a year. So this idea that mass deportations aren't happening just isn't reality.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/12/10/thanks-president-trump-and-secretary-noem-more-25-million-illegal-aliens-left-us

As for election laws, numerous Republican states across the union have tightened election laws. And word is Congress is attempting to pass same, though given the numbers in congress, it might not happen.

As for impeaching or prosecuting people, the DOJ is prosecuting - or attempting to prosecute - numerous people responsible for the lawfare which has occurred the last few years, including Comey, Leticia James, etc.

So, again, it's just unclear what you were expecting. I'd say Trump has done a lot of the above in the less than year he's been in office. In fact, he's accomplished way more in these two areas than I expected, given the razor thin majority in congress.




605,000 are not mass deportations, that's less than 2.5 million over 4 years. The 1.9 million self deportation number is flawed - look into it.

Voter laws - that's great red states are securing their elections, but we need blue states to be secure. I live in Pennsylvania and pretty much anyone can vote right now. We need to lock down states like this as they can go either way.

As for the DOJ, they suck. I wish the Republicans had the same fire the Democrats have. James Comey is a free man and there are no active charges against him. Same with Leticia James. Like I said, Minnesota is a great place to start, we'll see what happens with that.

For the record, I do like some things he has done. Deploying the national guard? Awesome. D.C. should be a world class city. I wish they would get deployed in Philly too.
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BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Robert Wilson said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Republican's inability to do anything meaningful


We've gone from letting 20 million illegal immigrants roll across the border to pretty much completely shutting down illegal immigration while we are deporting large numbers of criminals. Your boy Gavin would do literally the opposite.

Crime statistics for this year are so much better than last year than it is almost unbelievable.

We got a tax bill passed. Had a few nice things in it. Certainly short of what I would like, but way better than the alternative.

Stock market is up. Gas is cheap. We rolled back a lot of the absurd climate scam regulations that were costing so much money and hampering productivity, especially on the energy side, which is great for both business and consumers.

What is it that you want Republicans to do?


Let's start with those mass deportations, secure election laws, and begin prosecuting/impeaching these corrupt politicians. Minnesota is a great place to start

I am not sure if you're just not paying attention to the news, or if you just don't believe it.

Mass deportations are happening, just FYI. The Office of Homeland Security has reported that there have been 605,0000 deportations since Trump took office, less than a year ago. 1.9 million illegals have voluntarily left the country since he took office. That is a huge number in less than a year. So this idea that mass deportations aren't happening just isn't reality.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/12/10/thanks-president-trump-and-secretary-noem-more-25-million-illegal-aliens-left-us

As for election laws, numerous Republican states across the union have tightened election laws. And word is Congress is attempting to pass same, though given the numbers in congress, it might not happen.

As for impeaching or prosecuting people, the DOJ is prosecuting - or attempting to prosecute - numerous people responsible for the lawfare which has occurred the last few years, including Comey, Leticia James, etc.

So, again, it's just unclear what you were expecting. I'd say Trump has done a lot of the above in the less than year he's been in office. In fact, he's accomplished way more in these two areas than I expected, given the razor thin majority in congress.




605,000 are not mass deportations, that's less than 2.5 million over 4 years. The 1.9 million self deportation number is flawed - look into it.

Voter laws - that's great red states are securing their elections, but we need blue states to be secure. I live in Pennsylvania and pretty much anyone can vote right now. We need to lock down states like this as they can go either way.

As for the DOJ, they suck. I wish the Republicans had the same fire the Democrats have. James Comey is a free man and there are no active charges against him. Same with Leticia James. Like I said, Minnesota is a great place to start, we'll see what happens with that.

For the record, I do like some things he has done. Deploying the national guard? Awesome. D.C. should be a world class city. I wish they would get deployed in Philly too.

I am pretty sure you don't understand how the deportation process works. I would submit looking into the process - as it is a legal process that requires certain steps to be taken before an individual can be deported. We can't simply put every Somali on a plane.

605,000 deportations in less than a year is more than any period in US president in history, and it's not even close. And this doesn't even include those awaiting deportation in mass detention centers. So, contrary to your assertions, that is indeed mass deportation under the framework of the law. As for the 1.9 million, multiple sources have reported that as the number, including organizations that support illegal immigration.

As for voter laws, you do understand that there is also a legal framework for changing those on a national level, correct? You can't just come into a state and override its legal bodies and force the Democrat-controlled govt. to tighten all of its election laws. As I said, there are plans on the table to try and institute a national voter law, but that requires having the votes, and doing so in a way that it's not deemed unconstitutional. Again, it's not something that can be done overnight.

As for Comey and James, both were indicted, and once again, there is a legal process for putting someone in jail. There's this thing called Due Process, and every person - even people you strongly dislike like Comey and James - get it. This isn't Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia, despite how much your idol Nick might want it to be, and I'd submit that's a good thing.

You've demonstrated an impatience that is borderline foolish. Even my 13 year old son understands there are processes associated with these things. Did you sleep through your govt. class in high school?
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Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Robert Wilson said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Republican's inability to do anything meaningful


We've gone from letting 20 million illegal immigrants roll across the border to pretty much completely shutting down illegal immigration while we are deporting large numbers of criminals. Your boy Gavin would do literally the opposite.

Crime statistics for this year are so much better than last year than it is almost unbelievable.

We got a tax bill passed. Had a few nice things in it. Certainly short of what I would like, but way better than the alternative.

Stock market is up. Gas is cheap. We rolled back a lot of the absurd climate scam regulations that were costing so much money and hampering productivity, especially on the energy side, which is great for both business and consumers.

What is it that you want Republicans to do?


Let's start with those mass deportations, secure election laws, and begin prosecuting/impeaching these corrupt politicians. Minnesota is a great place to start

I am not sure if you're just not paying attention to the news, or if you just don't believe it.

Mass deportations are happening, just FYI. The Office of Homeland Security has reported that there have been 605,0000 deportations since Trump took office, less than a year ago. 1.9 million illegals have voluntarily left the country since he took office. That is a huge number in less than a year. So this idea that mass deportations aren't happening just isn't reality.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/12/10/thanks-president-trump-and-secretary-noem-more-25-million-illegal-aliens-left-us

As for election laws, numerous Republican states across the union have tightened election laws. And word is Congress is attempting to pass same, though given the numbers in congress, it might not happen.

As for impeaching or prosecuting people, the DOJ is prosecuting - or attempting to prosecute - numerous people responsible for the lawfare which has occurred the last few years, including Comey, Leticia James, etc.

So, again, it's just unclear what you were expecting. I'd say Trump has done a lot of the above in the less than year he's been in office. In fact, he's accomplished way more in these two areas than I expected, given the razor thin majority in congress.




605,000 are not mass deportations, that's less than 2.5 million over 4 years. The 1.9 million self deportation number is flawed - look into it.

Voter laws - that's great red states are securing their elections, but we need blue states to be secure. I live in Pennsylvania and pretty much anyone can vote right now. We need to lock down states like this as they can go either way.

As for the DOJ, they suck. I wish the Republicans had the same fire the Democrats have. James Comey is a free man and there are no active charges against him. Same with Leticia James. Like I said, Minnesota is a great place to start, we'll see what happens with that.

For the record, I do like some things he has done. Deploying the national guard? Awesome. D.C. should be a world class city. I wish they would get deployed in Philly too.

I am pretty sure you don't understand how the deportation process works. I would submit looking into the process - as it is a legal process that requires certain steps to be taken before an individual can be deported. We can't simply put every Somali on a plane.

605,000 deportations in less than a year is more than any period in US president in history, and it's not even close. And this doesn't even include those awaiting deportation in mass detention centers. So, contrary to your assertions, that is indeed mass deportation under the framework of the law. As for the 1.9 million, multiple sources have reported that as the number, including organizations that support illegal immigration.

As for voter laws, you do understand that there is also a legal framework for changing those on a national level, correct? You can't just come into a state and override its legal bodies and force the Democrat-controlled govt. to tighten all of its election laws. As I said, there are plans on the table to try and institute a national voter law, but that requires having the votes, and doing so in a way that it's not deemed unconstitutional. Again, it's not something that can be done overnight.

As for Comey and James, both were indicted, and once again, there is a legal process for putting someone in jail. There's this thing called Due Process, and every person - even people you strongly dislike like Comey and James - get it. This isn't Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia, despite how much your idol Nick might want it to be, and I'd submit that's a good thing.

You've demonstrated an impatience that is borderline foolish. Even my 13 year old son understands there are processes associated with these things. Did you sleep through your govt. class in high school?


Oh brother… Obama was deporting as high as 400,000+ during parts of presidency. And I do know how the process works. I also know the Trump administration has implemented expedited removal that doesn't require a judicial hearing for migrants who have been here for less than two years.

The 1.9 million self deportation number is indeed flawed, and still being debated; to confidently say it's accurate is foolish, but I expect nothing less from you.

The lack of prosecutions is arguably due to lack of execution on the republican side. They've been disgustingly disorganized whereas the democrats have been more methodical. Trump pledged to drain the swamp but has nothing to show for. And he clearly has no appetite to do so as he admitted the "lock up Hillary" stuff was nothing more than campaign rhetoric. But as usual, you goycattle will flock to your masters side and defend it. Real pathetic honestly.

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Robert Wilson said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Republican's inability to do anything meaningful


We've gone from letting 20 million illegal immigrants roll across the border to pretty much completely shutting down illegal immigration while we are deporting large numbers of criminals. Your boy Gavin would do literally the opposite.

Crime statistics for this year are so much better than last year than it is almost unbelievable.

We got a tax bill passed. Had a few nice things in it. Certainly short of what I would like, but way better than the alternative.

Stock market is up. Gas is cheap. We rolled back a lot of the absurd climate scam regulations that were costing so much money and hampering productivity, especially on the energy side, which is great for both business and consumers.

What is it that you want Republicans to do?


Let's start with those mass deportations, secure election laws, and begin prosecuting/impeaching these corrupt politicians. Minnesota is a great place to start

I am not sure if you're just not paying attention to the news, or if you just don't believe it.

Mass deportations are happening, just FYI. The Office of Homeland Security has reported that there have been 605,0000 deportations since Trump took office, less than a year ago. 1.9 million illegals have voluntarily left the country since he took office. That is a huge number in less than a year. So this idea that mass deportations aren't happening just isn't reality.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/12/10/thanks-president-trump-and-secretary-noem-more-25-million-illegal-aliens-left-us

As for election laws, numerous Republican states across the union have tightened election laws. And word is Congress is attempting to pass same, though given the numbers in congress, it might not happen.

As for impeaching or prosecuting people, the DOJ is prosecuting - or attempting to prosecute - numerous people responsible for the lawfare which has occurred the last few years, including Comey, Leticia James, etc.

So, again, it's just unclear what you were expecting. I'd say Trump has done a lot of the above in the less than year he's been in office. In fact, he's accomplished way more in these two areas than I expected, given the razor thin majority in congress.




605,000 are not mass deportations, that's less than 2.5 million over 4 years. The 1.9 million self deportation number is flawed - look into it.

Voter laws - that's great red states are securing their elections, but we need blue states to be secure. I live in Pennsylvania and pretty much anyone can vote right now. We need to lock down states like this as they can go either way.

As for the DOJ, they suck. I wish the Republicans had the same fire the Democrats have. James Comey is a free man and there are no active charges against him. Same with Leticia James. Like I said, Minnesota is a great place to start, we'll see what happens with that.

For the record, I do like some things he has done. Deploying the national guard? Awesome. D.C. should be a world class city. I wish they would get deployed in Philly too.

I am pretty sure you don't understand how the deportation process works. I would submit looking into the process - as it is a legal process that requires certain steps to be taken before an individual can be deported. We can't simply put every Somali on a plane.

605,000 deportations in less than a year is more than any period in US president in history, and it's not even close. And this doesn't even include those awaiting deportation in mass detention centers. So, contrary to your assertions, that is indeed mass deportation under the framework of the law. As for the 1.9 million, multiple sources have reported that as the number, including organizations that support illegal immigration.

As for voter laws, you do understand that there is also a legal framework for changing those on a national level, correct? You can't just come into a state and override its legal bodies and force the Democrat-controlled govt. to tighten all of its election laws. As I said, there are plans on the table to try and institute a national voter law, but that requires having the votes, and doing so in a way that it's not deemed unconstitutional. Again, it's not something that can be done overnight.

As for Comey and James, both were indicted, and once again, there is a legal process for putting someone in jail. There's this thing called Due Process, and every person - even people you strongly dislike like Comey and James - get it. This isn't Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia, despite how much your idol Nick might want it to be, and I'd submit that's a good thing.

You've demonstrated an impatience that is borderline foolish. Even my 13 year old son understands there are processes associated with these things. Did you sleep through your govt. class in high school?


Oh brother… Obama was deporting as high as 400,000+ during parts of presidency. And I do know how the process works. I also know the Trump administration has implemented expedited removal that doesn't require a judicial hearing for migrants who have been here for less than two years.

The 1.9 million self deportation number is indeed flawed, and still being debated; to confidently say it's accurate is foolish, but I expect nothing less from you.

The lack of prosecutions is arguably due to lack of execution on the republican side. They've been disgustingly disorganized whereas the democrats have been more methodical. Trump pledged to drain the swamp but has nothing to show for. And he clearly has no appetite to do so as he admitted the "lock up Hillary" stuff was nothing more than campaign rhetoric. But as usual, you goycattle will flock to your masters side and defend it. Real pathetic honestly.

So, Obama - also known as the "Deporter-in-Chief" - deported as high as 400,000 at one point. Trump has deported 150% more than the Deporter-in-Chief in less than a year, and has at least 66,000 in detention centers - higher than any president in history. That being the case, what part of my saying Trump has deported more illegals in less than a year than any president in history didn't you agree with? Why are you scoffing at such historical numbers? Because it's not high or fast enough for your taste?

How is 1.9 million flawed? You made the claim. State your position.

As for HRC, not much the president can do to get her locked up, when the DOJ refused to indict, and limitations have now passed.

Indeed, oh brother. The ironic thing about this is I am not even a Trump fan, yet your ridiculous statements are making me defend him.

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Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Robert Wilson said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Republican's inability to do anything meaningful


We've gone from letting 20 million illegal immigrants roll across the border to pretty much completely shutting down illegal immigration while we are deporting large numbers of criminals. Your boy Gavin would do literally the opposite.

Crime statistics for this year are so much better than last year than it is almost unbelievable.

We got a tax bill passed. Had a few nice things in it. Certainly short of what I would like, but way better than the alternative.

Stock market is up. Gas is cheap. We rolled back a lot of the absurd climate scam regulations that were costing so much money and hampering productivity, especially on the energy side, which is great for both business and consumers.

What is it that you want Republicans to do?


Let's start with those mass deportations, secure election laws, and begin prosecuting/impeaching these corrupt politicians. Minnesota is a great place to start

I am not sure if you're just not paying attention to the news, or if you just don't believe it.

Mass deportations are happening, just FYI. The Office of Homeland Security has reported that there have been 605,0000 deportations since Trump took office, less than a year ago. 1.9 million illegals have voluntarily left the country since he took office. That is a huge number in less than a year. So this idea that mass deportations aren't happening just isn't reality.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/12/10/thanks-president-trump-and-secretary-noem-more-25-million-illegal-aliens-left-us

As for election laws, numerous Republican states across the union have tightened election laws. And word is Congress is attempting to pass same, though given the numbers in congress, it might not happen.

As for impeaching or prosecuting people, the DOJ is prosecuting - or attempting to prosecute - numerous people responsible for the lawfare which has occurred the last few years, including Comey, Leticia James, etc.

So, again, it's just unclear what you were expecting. I'd say Trump has done a lot of the above in the less than year he's been in office. In fact, he's accomplished way more in these two areas than I expected, given the razor thin majority in congress.




605,000 are not mass deportations, that's less than 2.5 million over 4 years. The 1.9 million self deportation number is flawed - look into it.

Voter laws - that's great red states are securing their elections, but we need blue states to be secure. I live in Pennsylvania and pretty much anyone can vote right now. We need to lock down states like this as they can go either way.

As for the DOJ, they suck. I wish the Republicans had the same fire the Democrats have. James Comey is a free man and there are no active charges against him. Same with Leticia James. Like I said, Minnesota is a great place to start, we'll see what happens with that.

For the record, I do like some things he has done. Deploying the national guard? Awesome. D.C. should be a world class city. I wish they would get deployed in Philly too.

I am pretty sure you don't understand how the deportation process works. I would submit looking into the process - as it is a legal process that requires certain steps to be taken before an individual can be deported. We can't simply put every Somali on a plane.

605,000 deportations in less than a year is more than any period in US president in history, and it's not even close. And this doesn't even include those awaiting deportation in mass detention centers. So, contrary to your assertions, that is indeed mass deportation under the framework of the law. As for the 1.9 million, multiple sources have reported that as the number, including organizations that support illegal immigration.

As for voter laws, you do understand that there is also a legal framework for changing those on a national level, correct? You can't just come into a state and override its legal bodies and force the Democrat-controlled govt. to tighten all of its election laws. As I said, there are plans on the table to try and institute a national voter law, but that requires having the votes, and doing so in a way that it's not deemed unconstitutional. Again, it's not something that can be done overnight.

As for Comey and James, both were indicted, and once again, there is a legal process for putting someone in jail. There's this thing called Due Process, and every person - even people you strongly dislike like Comey and James - get it. This isn't Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia, despite how much your idol Nick might want it to be, and I'd submit that's a good thing.

You've demonstrated an impatience that is borderline foolish. Even my 13 year old son understands there are processes associated with these things. Did you sleep through your govt. class in high school?


Oh brother… Obama was deporting as high as 400,000+ during parts of presidency. And I do know how the process works. I also know the Trump administration has implemented expedited removal that doesn't require a judicial hearing for migrants who have been here for less than two years.

The 1.9 million self deportation number is indeed flawed, and still being debated; to confidently say it's accurate is foolish, but I expect nothing less from you.

The lack of prosecutions is arguably due to lack of execution on the republican side. They've been disgustingly disorganized whereas the democrats have been more methodical. Trump pledged to drain the swamp but has nothing to show for. And he clearly has no appetite to do so as he admitted the "lock up Hillary" stuff was nothing more than campaign rhetoric. But as usual, you goycattle will flock to your masters side and defend it. Real pathetic honestly.

So, Obama - also known as the "Deporter-in-Chief" - deported as high as 400,000 at one point. Trump has deported 150% more than the Deporter-in-Chief in less than a year, and has at least 66,000 in detention centers - higher than any president in history. That being the case, what part of my saying Trump has deported more illegals in less than a year than any president in history didn't you agree with? Why are you scoffing at such historical numbers? Because it's not high or fast enough for your taste?

How is 1.9 million flawed? You made the claim. State your position.

As for HRC, not much the president can do to get her locked up, when the DOJ refused to indict, and limitations have now passed.

Indeed, oh brother. The ironic thing about this is I am not even a Trump fan, yet your ridiculous statements are making me defend him.




The self deportation numbers stem from demographic info, not actual tracking. DHS is using pure outflows and labeling it as "self deportations"

They have no idea what percentage of these outflows are actual self deportation numbers or natural outflows. The CBP Homeapp is used to facilitate the self deportations and they have reported much much lower numbers
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BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Robert Wilson said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Republican's inability to do anything meaningful


We've gone from letting 20 million illegal immigrants roll across the border to pretty much completely shutting down illegal immigration while we are deporting large numbers of criminals. Your boy Gavin would do literally the opposite.

Crime statistics for this year are so much better than last year than it is almost unbelievable.

We got a tax bill passed. Had a few nice things in it. Certainly short of what I would like, but way better than the alternative.

Stock market is up. Gas is cheap. We rolled back a lot of the absurd climate scam regulations that were costing so much money and hampering productivity, especially on the energy side, which is great for both business and consumers.

What is it that you want Republicans to do?


Let's start with those mass deportations, secure election laws, and begin prosecuting/impeaching these corrupt politicians. Minnesota is a great place to start

I am not sure if you're just not paying attention to the news, or if you just don't believe it.

Mass deportations are happening, just FYI. The Office of Homeland Security has reported that there have been 605,0000 deportations since Trump took office, less than a year ago. 1.9 million illegals have voluntarily left the country since he took office. That is a huge number in less than a year. So this idea that mass deportations aren't happening just isn't reality.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/12/10/thanks-president-trump-and-secretary-noem-more-25-million-illegal-aliens-left-us

As for election laws, numerous Republican states across the union have tightened election laws. And word is Congress is attempting to pass same, though given the numbers in congress, it might not happen.

As for impeaching or prosecuting people, the DOJ is prosecuting - or attempting to prosecute - numerous people responsible for the lawfare which has occurred the last few years, including Comey, Leticia James, etc.

So, again, it's just unclear what you were expecting. I'd say Trump has done a lot of the above in the less than year he's been in office. In fact, he's accomplished way more in these two areas than I expected, given the razor thin majority in congress.




605,000 are not mass deportations, that's less than 2.5 million over 4 years. The 1.9 million self deportation number is flawed - look into it.

Voter laws - that's great red states are securing their elections, but we need blue states to be secure. I live in Pennsylvania and pretty much anyone can vote right now. We need to lock down states like this as they can go either way.

As for the DOJ, they suck. I wish the Republicans had the same fire the Democrats have. James Comey is a free man and there are no active charges against him. Same with Leticia James. Like I said, Minnesota is a great place to start, we'll see what happens with that.

For the record, I do like some things he has done. Deploying the national guard? Awesome. D.C. should be a world class city. I wish they would get deployed in Philly too.

I am pretty sure you don't understand how the deportation process works. I would submit looking into the process - as it is a legal process that requires certain steps to be taken before an individual can be deported. We can't simply put every Somali on a plane.

605,000 deportations in less than a year is more than any period in US president in history, and it's not even close. And this doesn't even include those awaiting deportation in mass detention centers. So, contrary to your assertions, that is indeed mass deportation under the framework of the law. As for the 1.9 million, multiple sources have reported that as the number, including organizations that support illegal immigration.

As for voter laws, you do understand that there is also a legal framework for changing those on a national level, correct? You can't just come into a state and override its legal bodies and force the Democrat-controlled govt. to tighten all of its election laws. As I said, there are plans on the table to try and institute a national voter law, but that requires having the votes, and doing so in a way that it's not deemed unconstitutional. Again, it's not something that can be done overnight.

As for Comey and James, both were indicted, and once again, there is a legal process for putting someone in jail. There's this thing called Due Process, and every person - even people you strongly dislike like Comey and James - get it. This isn't Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia, despite how much your idol Nick might want it to be, and I'd submit that's a good thing.

You've demonstrated an impatience that is borderline foolish. Even my 13 year old son understands there are processes associated with these things. Did you sleep through your govt. class in high school?


Oh brother… Obama was deporting as high as 400,000+ during parts of presidency. And I do know how the process works. I also know the Trump administration has implemented expedited removal that doesn't require a judicial hearing for migrants who have been here for less than two years.

The 1.9 million self deportation number is indeed flawed, and still being debated; to confidently say it's accurate is foolish, but I expect nothing less from you.

The lack of prosecutions is arguably due to lack of execution on the republican side. They've been disgustingly disorganized whereas the democrats have been more methodical. Trump pledged to drain the swamp but has nothing to show for. And he clearly has no appetite to do so as he admitted the "lock up Hillary" stuff was nothing more than campaign rhetoric. But as usual, you goycattle will flock to your masters side and defend it. Real pathetic honestly.

So, Obama - also known as the "Deporter-in-Chief" - deported as high as 400,000 at one point. Trump has deported 150% more than the Deporter-in-Chief in less than a year, and has at least 66,000 in detention centers - higher than any president in history. That being the case, what part of my saying Trump has deported more illegals in less than a year than any president in history didn't you agree with? Why are you scoffing at such historical numbers? Because it's not high or fast enough for your taste?

How is 1.9 million flawed? You made the claim. State your position.

As for HRC, not much the president can do to get her locked up, when the DOJ refused to indict, and limitations have now passed.

Indeed, oh brother. The ironic thing about this is I am not even a Trump fan, yet your ridiculous statements are making me defend him.




The self deportation numbers stem from demographic info, not actual tracking. DHS is using pure outflows and labeling it as "self deportations"

They have no idea what percentage of these outflows are actual self deportation numbers or natural outflows. The CBP Homeapp is used to facilitate the self deportations and they have reported much much lower numbers

Fine. The point on involuntary deportations still stands. As I've said before, perfect is the enemy of good.

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Robert Wilson said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Republican's inability to do anything meaningful


We've gone from letting 20 million illegal immigrants roll across the border to pretty much completely shutting down illegal immigration while we are deporting large numbers of criminals. Your boy Gavin would do literally the opposite.

Crime statistics for this year are so much better than last year than it is almost unbelievable.

We got a tax bill passed. Had a few nice things in it. Certainly short of what I would like, but way better than the alternative.

Stock market is up. Gas is cheap. We rolled back a lot of the absurd climate scam regulations that were costing so much money and hampering productivity, especially on the energy side, which is great for both business and consumers.

What is it that you want Republicans to do?


Let's start with those mass deportations, secure election laws, and begin prosecuting/impeaching these corrupt politicians. Minnesota is a great place to start

I am not sure if you're just not paying attention to the news, or if you just don't believe it.

Mass deportations are happening, just FYI. The Office of Homeland Security has reported that there have been 605,0000 deportations since Trump took office, less than a year ago. 1.9 million illegals have voluntarily left the country since he took office. That is a huge number in less than a year. So this idea that mass deportations aren't happening just isn't reality.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/12/10/thanks-president-trump-and-secretary-noem-more-25-million-illegal-aliens-left-us

As for election laws, numerous Republican states across the union have tightened election laws. And word is Congress is attempting to pass same, though given the numbers in congress, it might not happen.

As for impeaching or prosecuting people, the DOJ is prosecuting - or attempting to prosecute - numerous people responsible for the lawfare which has occurred the last few years, including Comey, Leticia James, etc.

So, again, it's just unclear what you were expecting. I'd say Trump has done a lot of the above in the less than year he's been in office. In fact, he's accomplished way more in these two areas than I expected, given the razor thin majority in congress.




605,000 are not mass deportations, that's less than 2.5 million over 4 years. The 1.9 million self deportation number is flawed - look into it.

Voter laws - that's great red states are securing their elections, but we need blue states to be secure. I live in Pennsylvania and pretty much anyone can vote right now. We need to lock down states like this as they can go either way.

As for the DOJ, they suck. I wish the Republicans had the same fire the Democrats have. James Comey is a free man and there are no active charges against him. Same with Leticia James. Like I said, Minnesota is a great place to start, we'll see what happens with that.

For the record, I do like some things he has done. Deploying the national guard? Awesome. D.C. should be a world class city. I wish they would get deployed in Philly too.

I am pretty sure you don't understand how the deportation process works. I would submit looking into the process - as it is a legal process that requires certain steps to be taken before an individual can be deported. We can't simply put every Somali on a plane.

605,000 deportations in less than a year is more than any period in US president in history, and it's not even close. And this doesn't even include those awaiting deportation in mass detention centers. So, contrary to your assertions, that is indeed mass deportation under the framework of the law. As for the 1.9 million, multiple sources have reported that as the number, including organizations that support illegal immigration.

As for voter laws, you do understand that there is also a legal framework for changing those on a national level, correct? You can't just come into a state and override its legal bodies and force the Democrat-controlled govt. to tighten all of its election laws. As I said, there are plans on the table to try and institute a national voter law, but that requires having the votes, and doing so in a way that it's not deemed unconstitutional. Again, it's not something that can be done overnight.

As for Comey and James, both were indicted, and once again, there is a legal process for putting someone in jail. There's this thing called Due Process, and every person - even people you strongly dislike like Comey and James - get it. This isn't Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia, despite how much your idol Nick might want it to be, and I'd submit that's a good thing.

You've demonstrated an impatience that is borderline foolish. Even my 13 year old son understands there are processes associated with these things. Did you sleep through your govt. class in high school?


Oh brother… Obama was deporting as high as 400,000+ during parts of presidency. And I do know how the process works. I also know the Trump administration has implemented expedited removal that doesn't require a judicial hearing for migrants who have been here for less than two years.

The 1.9 million self deportation number is indeed flawed, and still being debated; to confidently say it's accurate is foolish, but I expect nothing less from you.

The lack of prosecutions is arguably due to lack of execution on the republican side. They've been disgustingly disorganized whereas the democrats have been more methodical. Trump pledged to drain the swamp but has nothing to show for. And he clearly has no appetite to do so as he admitted the "lock up Hillary" stuff was nothing more than campaign rhetoric. But as usual, you goycattle will flock to your masters side and defend it. Real pathetic honestly.

So, Obama - also known as the "Deporter-in-Chief" - deported as high as 400,000 at one point. Trump has deported 150% more than the Deporter-in-Chief in less than a year, and has at least 66,000 in detention centers - higher than any president in history. That being the case, what part of my saying Trump has deported more illegals in less than a year than any president in history didn't you agree with? Why are you scoffing at such historical numbers? Because it's not high or fast enough for your taste?

How is 1.9 million flawed? You made the claim. State your position.

As for HRC, not much the president can do to get her locked up, when the DOJ refused to indict, and limitations have now passed.

Indeed, oh brother. The ironic thing about this is I am not even a Trump fan, yet your ridiculous statements are making me defend him.




The self deportation numbers stem from demographic info, not actual tracking. DHS is using pure outflows and labeling it as "self deportations"

They have no idea what percentage of these outflows are actual self deportation numbers or natural outflows. The CBP Homeapp is used to facilitate the self deportations and they have reported much much lower numbers


How would it look under Biden or Kamala?
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Robert Wilson said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Robert Wilson said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Republican's inability to do anything meaningful


We've gone from letting 20 million illegal immigrants roll across the border to pretty much completely shutting down illegal immigration while we are deporting large numbers of criminals. Your boy Gavin would do literally the opposite.

Crime statistics for this year are so much better than last year than it is almost unbelievable.

We got a tax bill passed. Had a few nice things in it. Certainly short of what I would like, but way better than the alternative.

Stock market is up. Gas is cheap. We rolled back a lot of the absurd climate scam regulations that were costing so much money and hampering productivity, especially on the energy side, which is great for both business and consumers.

What is it that you want Republicans to do?


Let's start with those mass deportations, secure election laws, and begin prosecuting/impeaching these corrupt politicians. Minnesota is a great place to start

I am not sure if you're just not paying attention to the news, or if you just don't believe it.

Mass deportations are happening, just FYI. The Office of Homeland Security has reported that there have been 605,0000 deportations since Trump took office, less than a year ago. 1.9 million illegals have voluntarily left the country since he took office. That is a huge number in less than a year. So this idea that mass deportations aren't happening just isn't reality.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/12/10/thanks-president-trump-and-secretary-noem-more-25-million-illegal-aliens-left-us

As for election laws, numerous Republican states across the union have tightened election laws. And word is Congress is attempting to pass same, though given the numbers in congress, it might not happen.

As for impeaching or prosecuting people, the DOJ is prosecuting - or attempting to prosecute - numerous people responsible for the lawfare which has occurred the last few years, including Comey, Leticia James, etc.

So, again, it's just unclear what you were expecting. I'd say Trump has done a lot of the above in the less than year he's been in office. In fact, he's accomplished way more in these two areas than I expected, given the razor thin majority in congress.




605,000 are not mass deportations, that's less than 2.5 million over 4 years. The 1.9 million self deportation number is flawed - look into it.

Voter laws - that's great red states are securing their elections, but we need blue states to be secure. I live in Pennsylvania and pretty much anyone can vote right now. We need to lock down states like this as they can go either way.

As for the DOJ, they suck. I wish the Republicans had the same fire the Democrats have. James Comey is a free man and there are no active charges against him. Same with Leticia James. Like I said, Minnesota is a great place to start, we'll see what happens with that.

For the record, I do like some things he has done. Deploying the national guard? Awesome. D.C. should be a world class city. I wish they would get deployed in Philly too.

I am pretty sure you don't understand how the deportation process works. I would submit looking into the process - as it is a legal process that requires certain steps to be taken before an individual can be deported. We can't simply put every Somali on a plane.

605,000 deportations in less than a year is more than any period in US president in history, and it's not even close. And this doesn't even include those awaiting deportation in mass detention centers. So, contrary to your assertions, that is indeed mass deportation under the framework of the law. As for the 1.9 million, multiple sources have reported that as the number, including organizations that support illegal immigration.

As for voter laws, you do understand that there is also a legal framework for changing those on a national level, correct? You can't just come into a state and override its legal bodies and force the Democrat-controlled govt. to tighten all of its election laws. As I said, there are plans on the table to try and institute a national voter law, but that requires having the votes, and doing so in a way that it's not deemed unconstitutional. Again, it's not something that can be done overnight.

As for Comey and James, both were indicted, and once again, there is a legal process for putting someone in jail. There's this thing called Due Process, and every person - even people you strongly dislike like Comey and James - get it. This isn't Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia, despite how much your idol Nick might want it to be, and I'd submit that's a good thing.

You've demonstrated an impatience that is borderline foolish. Even my 13 year old son understands there are processes associated with these things. Did you sleep through your govt. class in high school?


Oh brother… Obama was deporting as high as 400,000+ during parts of presidency. And I do know how the process works. I also know the Trump administration has implemented expedited removal that doesn't require a judicial hearing for migrants who have been here for less than two years.

The 1.9 million self deportation number is indeed flawed, and still being debated; to confidently say it's accurate is foolish, but I expect nothing less from you.

The lack of prosecutions is arguably due to lack of execution on the republican side. They've been disgustingly disorganized whereas the democrats have been more methodical. Trump pledged to drain the swamp but has nothing to show for. And he clearly has no appetite to do so as he admitted the "lock up Hillary" stuff was nothing more than campaign rhetoric. But as usual, you goycattle will flock to your masters side and defend it. Real pathetic honestly.

So, Obama - also known as the "Deporter-in-Chief" - deported as high as 400,000 at one point. Trump has deported 150% more than the Deporter-in-Chief in less than a year, and has at least 66,000 in detention centers - higher than any president in history. That being the case, what part of my saying Trump has deported more illegals in less than a year than any president in history didn't you agree with? Why are you scoffing at such historical numbers? Because it's not high or fast enough for your taste?

How is 1.9 million flawed? You made the claim. State your position.

As for HRC, not much the president can do to get her locked up, when the DOJ refused to indict, and limitations have now passed.

Indeed, oh brother. The ironic thing about this is I am not even a Trump fan, yet your ridiculous statements are making me defend him.




The self deportation numbers stem from demographic info, not actual tracking. DHS is using pure outflows and labeling it as "self deportations"

They have no idea what percentage of these outflows are actual self deportation numbers or natural outflows. The CBP Homeapp is used to facilitate the self deportations and they have reported much much lower numbers


How would it look under Biden or Kamala?


Not nearly as good as it would be under President Alex Jones and Vice President Nick Fuentes
Sic 'em Bears and Go Birds
Sam Lowry
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Why?



Nazis have always been obsessed with youth and physical strength, or at least the appearance thereof. Playing the Ubermensch is a way to compensate for their debilitating psychosexual problems.
Mothra
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boognish_bear said:

Why?



These youngsters are so stupid.
Robert Wilson
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Mothra said:

boognish_bear said:

Why?



These youngsters are so stupid.

Oh, man, the insecurity.

Gotta feel a little bad for them. Hope they don't waste too much time on things like giga chad jaw surgery and whining about boomers / women / Israel before they realize the world is full of opportunity and they just need to put their hand to the plow.
Mothra
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Robert Wilson said:

Mothra said:

boognish_bear said:

Why?



These youngsters are so stupid.

Oh, man, the insecurity.

Gotta feel a little bad for them. Hope they don't waste too much time on things like giga chad jaw surgery and whining about boomers / women / Israel before they realize the world is full of opportunity and they just need to put their hand to the plow.

They do need their bogeyman, don't they?
muddybrazos
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Seriously. Hey Vance, if you want my vote then step up and do something to show us you mean business.
Mothra
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Seriously. Hey Vance, if you want my vote then step up and do something to show us you mean business.

Vance isn't the answer. If he's the nom, Republicans will get their ass kicked in 2028. It was a poor decision by Trump to go with him in the first place. He did nothing to help the ticket.

But at the end of the day, catering to people with racist ideas is also not the answer. The groypers, while they bark loud, are for the most part a small minority of racist and impotent white dudes. No need to cater to their disgusting ideas and positions, unless the Republicans want to lose big the next election cycle.

In other words, "your vote" is not as important as you perceive it to be.
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Mothra said:

In other words, "your vote" is not as important as you perceive it to be.


My vote may not be as important as I perceive.

But the absence of my vote and a relatively small minority of like minded individuals, say 5%-10% of GOP voters, is catastrophic in a general election.

So the real question is this: does the establishment GOP and Christian Zionists such as yourself bow the knee to MAGA in 2028 or not? It will be the biggest game of chicken in the history of the country. But I'll tell you this...after presidents and nominees like Bush, Romney, and McCain MAGA is done playing that game. Any nominee cut from that cloth (Rubio, Haley) will lose.

Furthermore, although I'm leaning Vance, that's all it is right now based on what he is saying.

Here's an alternative view of him.

 
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