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In reply to nein51 • 2:44p, 4/23/17
nein51 said:
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Are Craftsman tools really any better than anything else?

Absolutely not.

Craftsman used to be pretty decent hand tools. They aren't that any more.

Same for SK

I have probably 60k in Matco tools but other guys swear by snap-on or Mac. I prefer the Snap-on wrenches to the other brands. They are, however, approx $35 per wrench. So let's say an 8mm-24mm set is something like $500 bucks.

Craftsman stuff is fine for home use and it's not crappy junk but it's certainly not high end tooling.


I've been told Craftsman isn't made by sears anymore.
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2:48p, 4/23/17
And Maldives....I'm not sure about that place.
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In reply to GoldMind • 2:54p, 4/23/17
GoldMind said:
Are Craftsman tools really any better than anything else?

Snap-on is God tier
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2:56p, 4/23/17
I have craftsman for home stuff. When we work on the cars, my grandfather's snap-ons come out. They're about 60 years old and still better than anything else, plus a few new pieces my dad added. My grandfather owned an auto shop so we had the luxury of all his tools.
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In reply to GoldMind • 2:59p, 4/23/17
GoldMind said:
nein51 said:
GoldMind said:
Are Craftsman tools really any better than anything else?

Absolutely not.

Craftsman used to be pretty decent hand tools. They aren't that any more.

Same for SK

I have probably 60k in Matco tools but other guys swear by snap-on or Mac. I prefer the Snap-on wrenches to the other brands. They are, however, approx $35 per wrench. So let's say an 8mm-24mm set is something like $500 bucks.

Craftsman stuff is fine for home use and it's not crappy junk but it's certainly not high end tooling.


I've been told Craftsman isn't made by sears anymore.

I don't think sears made tools ever. Danaher used to make them (people who make a lot of tools for a lot of people). I don't know who is making them now but you can tell the difference.

SK used to be a competitor to craftsman in the entry level "pro" tools category and used to make their stuff in the US as well. They don't any more either.

You use my Matco socket wrench then use a Gearwrench version and you can tell the difference almost instantly.

Use a pro socket (Matco/Snap-On/Mac/Cornwell) then use a Great Neck from Autozone and the difference is night and day.

Ask Ethridge what the 2 sockets to do the Mrs old car cost...I believe we were right at $100 for two Snap-On sockets (they were the only ones that made them at the time).

A search shows Danaher is acquiring the Craftsman brand again this year so maybe the quality will go up.
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In reply to AceThedic • 3:00p, 4/23/17
exr29070 said:
GoldMind said:
Are Craftsman tools really any better than anything else?

Snap-on is God tier

They charge like it!

I've found the Matcos to be more to my liking (especially the boxes) but, again, I do prefer the Snap-On wrenches.
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3:01p, 4/23/17
The ratchet action sound of a snap on is akin to the exhaust of a Harley.
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In reply to nein51 • 3:03p, 4/23/17
nein51 said:
GoldMind said:
nein51 said:
GoldMind said:
Are Craftsman tools really any better than anything else?

Absolutely not.

Craftsman used to be pretty decent hand tools. They aren't that any more.

Same for SK

I have probably 60k in Matco tools but other guys swear by snap-on or Mac. I prefer the Snap-on wrenches to the other brands. They are, however, approx $35 per wrench. So let's say an 8mm-24mm set is something like $500 bucks.

Craftsman stuff is fine for home use and it's not crappy junk but it's certainly not high end tooling.


I've been told Craftsman isn't made by sears anymore.

I don't think sears made tools ever. Danaher used to make them (people who make a lot of tools for a lot of people). I don't know who is making them now but you can tell the difference.

SK used to be a competitor to craftsman in the entry level "pro" tools category and used to make their stuff in the US as well. They don't any more either.

You use my Matco socket wrench then use a Gearwrench version and you can tell the difference almost instantly.

Use a pro socket (Matco/Snap-On/Mac/Cornwell) then use a Great Neck from Autozone and the difference is night and day.

Ask Ethridge what the 2 sockets to do the Mrs old car cost...I believe we were right at $100 for two Snap-On sockets (they were the only ones that made them at the time).

A search shows Danaher is acquiring the Craftsman brand again this year so maybe the quality will go up.


I used to have a 1 1/8 inch spud wrench made by Bethlehem Steel.
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In reply to AceThedic • 3:24p, 4/23/17
exr29070 said:
The ratchet action sound of a snap on is akin to the exhaust of a Harley.

You should try the new 88 teeth ratchets. Holy cow. Amazing upgrade in technology. Not a lot of noise but they work so much better. Less than 5 deg between teeth.
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In reply to DioNoZeus • 3:32p, 4/23/17
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Wooldogg said:
DioNoZeus said:
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Gunny Hartman said:
Buncha fruity pantsed beer snobs. It's not like we're talking about something important like whisky.
Beer snobs are the worst.
Music snobs equally so :p

Which is worse:
A beer snob discussing music or a music snob drinking beer?


Often they're one and the same. With their MacBook Pros and their horn rimmed glasses... manicured and oiled lumberjack beard and ironic flannel...

Post flagged for profiling. Some of us were into craft beer and music before the hipster d-bags were. Don't need the glasses (my vision is better than yours, just like my taste in beer and music), my beard is well trimmed sans oil and isn't housing any rodents, and I wear ironic t-shirts (proud father of an Aggie scholar), not flannel.
haha well played, NoZe. Maybe we can meet up and jam some early Wilco over some quadruple IPAs sometime.

Just for clarification's sake-
My eyesight's better than yours
I like Wilco
I like craft beer. Not IPA tho.
I like domestic light beer. Not Bud Light tho.

Wilco? Seriously? Uncle Tupelo and Son Volt are far superior.

Love me some son volt
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3:33p, 4/23/17
Looks like I lied. Stanley is acquiring craftsman.
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In reply to sicemkentucky • 3:37p, 4/23/17
sicemkentucky said:
Who was around for the implementation and quick demise of Party 2000?


What a massive let down that was! And wasn't it P.A.R.T.Y. 2000? But what was the acronym for?

#dmp
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In reply to BUBear03 • 3:38p, 4/23/17
BUBear03 said:
Next, someone is going to tell me that boones farm is good.
for your 18yr old daughter
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In reply to Bearwhiz • 3:45p, 4/23/17
Bearwhiz said:
BUBear03 said:
Next, someone is going to tell me that boones farm is good.
for your 18yr old daughter

Strawberry hill and the peach one are delicious. 17 bottles and you even get a little buzz.
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In reply to Dubbicans • 3:50p, 4/23/17
Dubbicans said:
I didn't like beer until all of a sudden I did.


I took a sip of a yellow belly back in junior high and swore I'd never drink beer it was so bad. Oh well.
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In reply to nein51 • 3:53p, 4/23/17
nein51 said:
Looks like I lied. Stanley is acquiring craftsman.


Correct. Stanley just acquired Craftsman.

Stanley now makes basically every tool on the planet that is worth a damn. That was the case before they acquired Craftsman, mind you, but it's basically true.

Stanley owns Mac, FWIW...
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4:19p, 4/23/17
What about power tools? I've had Makita stuff for years and some of its starting to go.
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In reply to GoldMind • 4:23p, 4/23/17
GoldMind said:
What about power tools? I've had Makita stuff for years and some of its starting to go.

Dewalt. There is nothing else.

Hit me up for what you need and I may be able to get you a smoking deal.
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In reply to RebelT • 4:29p, 4/23/17
RebelT said:
GoldMind said:
What about power tools? I've had Makita stuff for years and some of its starting to go.

Dewalt. There is nothing else.

Hit me up for what you need and I may be able to get you a smoking deal.


I'd put Milwaukee up there too, but can't go wrong with Dewalt.
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4:34p, 4/23/17
Can you go wrong with Bosch?
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5:02p, 4/23/17
Why doesn't JKB have every single top comment today?
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In reply to AceThedic • 5:05p, 4/23/17
exr29070 said:
Why doesn't JKB have every single top comment today?


I feel like some just give him stars
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5:07p, 4/23/17
Stanley owns dewalt.

I have a bunch of dewalt and Milwaukee electric tools. Frankly I'm not sure you could tell the difference between them if I blindfolded you.

I prefer the trigger pull of the Milwaukee but both are very good.
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5:15p, 4/23/17
So I just got word that after reporting the fake President Livingstone account to Twitter, the account got suspended. Why would somebody enjoy pretending to be someone else online? Not a parody account, but legitimately posing? People are weird.
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5:16p, 4/23/17
I prefer the trigger pull of a Sig Sauer
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In reply to Gunny Hartman • 5:17p, 4/23/17
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I prefer the trigger pull of a Sig Sauer


Walther
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In reply to Gunny Hartman • 5:19p, 4/23/17
Gunny Hartman said:
I prefer the trigger pull of a Sig Sauer

I have a Kimber with lightened trigger pull. It's amazing...it is, sadly, the only thing I like about that handgun.
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In reply to nein51 • 5:20p, 4/23/17
nein51 said:
Stanley owns dewalt.

I have a bunch of dewalt and Milwaukee electric tools. Frankly I'm not sure you could tell the difference between them if I blindfolded you.

I prefer the trigger pull of the Milwaukee but both are very good.


There are some fairly substantial differences in Milwaukee and Dewalt, primarily on the battery-powered side. Not that Milwaukee doesn't make some good products, but Dewalt is the best you can get.
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In reply to RebelT • 5:23p, 4/23/17
RebelT said:
nein51 said:
Stanley owns dewalt.

I have a bunch of dewalt and Milwaukee electric tools. Frankly I'm not sure you could tell the difference between them if I blindfolded you.

I prefer the trigger pull of the Milwaukee but both are very good.


There are some fairly substantial differences in Milwaukee and Dewalt, primarily on the battery-powered side. Not that Milwaukee doesn't make some good products, but Dewalt is the best you can get.

I use them, literally, every day. My Milwaukee 1/2" has never failed. My dewalt has been rebuilt 3 times now. The Milwaukee is lighter and has a much better trigger pull. The dewalt may have more power but for what the average person would do with them you couldn't tell the difference.

I like both. I don't think you would go wrong with either.

This is like arguing if a Ferrari is better than a Lamborghini. They are both awesome.
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In reply to Gunny Hartman • 5:24p, 4/23/17
Gunny Hartman said:
So I just got word that after reporting the fake President Livingstone account to Twitter, the account got suspended. Why would somebody enjoy pretending to be someone else online? Not a parody account, but legitimately posing? People are weird.


Long game troll probably. Pretend to be her for a few weeks and then start spewing racist, sexist, crazy **** to further tarnish the good name of University of Baylor.
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5:25p, 4/23/17
Personally I prefer a Ferrari over a drill
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5:27p, 4/23/17
I've never ridden in a Rari. I got to ride in a 98 model Diablo. ****ers are quick.
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5:30p, 4/23/17
Speaking of good ole U of B, somebody needs to tell Tyler Henderson that he signed with us and not them.

Check out Tyler Henderson (@OFFIClALTY):
https://twitter.com/OFFIClALTY?s=09
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In reply to AceThedic • 5:38p, 4/23/17
exr29070 said:
Why doesn't JKB have every single top comment today?
Did you miss BearMace's comment on the Lebby thread?
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5:43p, 4/23/17
What is a good introductory handgun? I have shotguns and long guns, but have never owned a handgun. I would want to conceal and carry.
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