Jack Bauer said:

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CNN:

"JFK involved in automobile accident in Dallas"

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"Reagan pushed around for having a Hinkling."

KaiBear said:

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KaiBear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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— subdermal13 (@tattoosbyjon) July 20, 2024

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And you know what that means

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It means that whether if it was due to incompetence or an inside job, the establishment has not intentions of preventing this from happening again.

Trump will win if he survives and there's a good chance he doesn't

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A. Has been reported that the FBI has determined that the shooter possessed 2-3 overseas ENCRYPTED servers. If true the lone wolf narrative will be finally trashed.

B. A viable threat was identified 5 minutes before Trump was to speak but they STILL let him go on stage. But of course Trump has only been persecuted by the Dem establishment for years including the President 's 'put a bullseye on him ' comment makes such a security lapse an innocent mistake.

C. Only 22 SS agents protecting Trump in a rally involving tens of thousands of individuals in an open air venue. SS protection limited to only 150 yards in the face of countless threats including threats of revenge from overseas.




Crooks had assistance.


Period .

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Will be interesting if your comment A above actually ever gets confirmation. If it were true, I'd suspect the same FBI that conspired against Trump with the same Democrat oversight to make that just disappear.

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Only heard this from once questionable source……Fox News.
Supposedly the FBI is attempting to break through the encryption security.

However I no longer trust the FBI in any situation.

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CBS News

Investigators trying to access foreign encrypted platforms used by Crooks

The briefers told lawmakers they are still attempting to access three foreign encrypted platforms that Crooks used on his cellphone, multiple sources told CBS News. Sources said officials told lawmakers that the encrypted sites are presenting challenges to investigators and could take time to decrypt.

Forensics say as many as 3 guns fired at Trump rally

From CNN.com: "Forensic analysis suggests that as many as three weapons were fired at the Trump rally in Butler, Pennsylvania on Saturday.

The FBI said Sunday that the shooter acted alone.

The first three shots were consistent with alleged weapon A, the next five were consistent with alleged weapon B, and the final "acoustic impulse' was emitted by a possible weapon C, per audio analysis by Catalin Grigoras, director of the National Center for Media Forensics at the University of Colorado in Denver, and Cole Whitecotton, Senior Professional Research Associate at the same institution.

Audio analysis has also confirmed that the gunman was about 369 to 393 feet from the podium, according to forensics expert Robert Maher.

This conclusion aligns with CNN's analysis that the gunman was on a rooftop 393 to 492 feet from the podium when shots rang out.

The shots exemplify a "crack-pop' sequence, typical when a supersonic bullet passes a microphone, before the "arrival of the corresponding muzzle blast sound," Maher, who teaches audio forensics at Montana State University, told CNN.

The time between these markers places the shooter 110 to 120 meters from the microphone, Maher said, assuming the bullet is moving at an average speed of 800 to 1,000 meters per second, the equivalent of 2,600 to 3,280 feet per second."

Weapon A was presumably Crooks, and the missed head shot. Weapon C was the SS Countersniper who killed him. That leaves Weapon B unaccounted for, and a second shooter unaccounted for.

What Trump is putting out about his wound

Donald Trump Truth Social 03:15 PM EST 07/20/24 @realDonaldTrump pic.twitter.com/240MsmBAmf

— Donald J. Trump Posts From His Truth Social (@TrumpDailyPosts) July 20, 2024

hodedofome said:

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You mean the gunman's accomplices were able to fly the drone…

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I posted earlier that it was not likely he showed up and figured it all out on the fly. We now know he didn't

Terrorists always case their targets. The core function of counter-terrorism is to frustrate that casing (via various means) and ideally SPOT IT while it's happening. In this instance, it means they should have been trying to detect drone activity.

Nobody is saying women can’t run intelligence units or even serve as snipers. The issue is that a 5’2” agent who weighs like 99 pounds cannot possibly defend a man who is a full foot taller and wider than her!!! Please engage with the criticism on the merits and report back. https://t.co/rDJ4pRQFLv

— Tiana Lowe Doescher (@TianaTheFirst) July 20, 2024

Realitybites said:

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Forensics say as many as 3 guns fired at Trump rally

From CNN.com: "Forensic analysis suggests that as many as three weapons were fired at the Trump rally in Butler, Pennsylvania on Saturday.

The FBI said Sunday that the shooter acted alone.

The first three shots were consistent with alleged weapon A, the next five were consistent with alleged weapon B, and the final "acoustic impulse' was emitted by a possible weapon C, per audio analysis by Catalin Grigoras, director of the National Center for Media Forensics at the University of Colorado in Denver, and Cole Whitecotton, Senior Professional Research Associate at the same institution.

Audio analysis has also confirmed that the gunman was about 369 to 393 feet from the podium, according to forensics expert Robert Maher.

This conclusion aligns with CNN's analysis that the gunman was on a rooftop 393 to 492 feet from the podium when shots rang out.

The shots exemplify a "crack-pop' sequence, typical when a supersonic bullet passes a microphone, before the "arrival of the corresponding muzzle blast sound," Maher, who teaches audio forensics at Montana State University, told CNN.

The time between these markers places the shooter 110 to 120 meters from the microphone, Maher said, assuming the bullet is moving at an average speed of 800 to 1,000 meters per second, the equivalent of 2,600 to 3,280 feet per second."

Weapon A was presumably Crooks, and the missed head shot. Weapon C was the SS Countersniper who killed him. That leaves Weapon B unaccounted for, and a second shooter unaccounted for.

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Needs its own thread. I'll go start one. When u hear the audio it is undeniable that there is a 2nd shooter.

Married A Horn said:

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Realitybites said:

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Forensics say as many as 3 guns fired at Trump rally

From CNN.com: "Forensic analysis suggests that as many as three weapons were fired at the Trump rally in Butler, Pennsylvania on Saturday.

The FBI said Sunday that the shooter acted alone.

The first three shots were consistent with alleged weapon A, the next five were consistent with alleged weapon B, and the final "acoustic impulse' was emitted by a possible weapon C, per audio analysis by Catalin Grigoras, director of the National Center for Media Forensics at the University of Colorado in Denver, and Cole Whitecotton, Senior Professional Research Associate at the same institution.

Audio analysis has also confirmed that the gunman was about 369 to 393 feet from the podium, according to forensics expert Robert Maher.

This conclusion aligns with CNN's analysis that the gunman was on a rooftop 393 to 492 feet from the podium when shots rang out.

The shots exemplify a "crack-pop' sequence, typical when a supersonic bullet passes a microphone, before the "arrival of the corresponding muzzle blast sound," Maher, who teaches audio forensics at Montana State University, told CNN.

The time between these markers places the shooter 110 to 120 meters from the microphone, Maher said, assuming the bullet is moving at an average speed of 800 to 1,000 meters per second, the equivalent of 2,600 to 3,280 feet per second."

Weapon A was presumably Crooks, and the missed head shot. Weapon C was the SS Countersniper who killed him. That leaves Weapon B unaccounted for, and a second shooter unaccounted for.

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Needs its own thread. I'll go start one. When u hear the audio it is undeniable that there is a 2nd shooter.

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Yeah. Absolutely clear that two shooters in two different locations were firing at Trump. My guess is that the first set of three -shots were from further away, and a company-affiliated or private professional shooter. The second set from closer in were Crooks and his AR. The final shot was the SS sniper batting cleanup when he shot Crooks.

I'm sure that the neocons are trying to figure out how to blame this on Iran or Russia.

The next question is with the failed lawfare, the failed assassination attempt, what else are they going to try between now and November to prevent Trump's election.

First Congressional Democrat calls for Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle to resign https://t.co/hOVUh62WVy

— Axios (@axios) July 21, 2024

boognish_bear said:

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First Congressional Democrat calls for Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle to resign https://t.co/hOVUh62WVy

— Axios (@axios) July 21, 2024

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one would think more Democrats would be calling for this, given that the SS protects THEIR GUY too.

Biden put her and other DEI hires in positions they are unqualified for.

Firing the SS director only focuses the spotlight on the stupidity of such DEI hires.

Politically safer to keep the director in place; while hoping the public is eventually distracted by other events .

whiterock said:

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boognish_bear said:

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First Congressional Democrat calls for Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle to resign https://t.co/hOVUh62WVy

— Axios (@axios) July 21, 2024

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one would think more Democrats would be calling for this, given that the SS protects THEIR GUY too.

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No. Since he is behind in polls they are okay with him being taken out.

Married A Horn said:

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whiterock said:

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boognish_bear said:

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First Congressional Democrat calls for Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle to resign https://t.co/hOVUh62WVy

— Axios (@axios) July 21, 2024

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one would think more Democrats would be calling for this, given that the SS protects THEIR GUY too.

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No. Since he is behind in polls they are okay with him being taken out.

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Isnt he still in hiding from his faux Covid attack?

Assassin said:

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Married A Horn said:

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whiterock said:

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boognish_bear said:

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First Congressional Democrat calls for Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle to resign https://t.co/hOVUh62WVy

— Axios (@axios) July 21, 2024

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one would think more Democrats would be calling for this, given that the SS protects THEIR GUY too.

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No. Since he is behind in polls they are okay with him being taken out.

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Isnt he still in hiding from his faux Covid attack?

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I expect this week we will hear about a new COVID variant ('Cornpop') where people suffering from the variant freeze in place for long periods of time, forget the names of close friends and relatives, and wander off without warning.

Married A Horn said:

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Realitybites said:

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Forensics say as many as 3 guns fired at Trump rally

From CNN.com: "Forensic analysis suggests that as many as three weapons were fired at the Trump rally in Butler, Pennsylvania on Saturday.

The FBI said Sunday that the shooter acted alone.

The first three shots were consistent with alleged weapon A, the next five were consistent with alleged weapon B, and the final "acoustic impulse' was emitted by a possible weapon C, per audio analysis by Catalin Grigoras, director of the National Center for Media Forensics at the University of Colorado in Denver, and Cole Whitecotton, Senior Professional Research Associate at the same institution.

Audio analysis has also confirmed that the gunman was about 369 to 393 feet from the podium, according to forensics expert Robert Maher.

This conclusion aligns with CNN's analysis that the gunman was on a rooftop 393 to 492 feet from the podium when shots rang out.

The shots exemplify a "crack-pop' sequence, typical when a supersonic bullet passes a microphone, before the "arrival of the corresponding muzzle blast sound," Maher, who teaches audio forensics at Montana State University, told CNN.

The time between these markers places the shooter 110 to 120 meters from the microphone, Maher said, assuming the bullet is moving at an average speed of 800 to 1,000 meters per second, the equivalent of 2,600 to 3,280 feet per second."

Weapon A was presumably Crooks, and the missed head shot. Weapon C was the SS Countersniper who killed him. That leaves Weapon B unaccounted for, and a second shooter unaccounted for.

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Needs its own thread. I'll go start one. When u hear the audio it is undeniable that there is a 2nd shooter.

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2nd shooter, why? They nicked his ear, didn't even require stitches. 2 gunmen needed to accomplish all that? So who was the 2nd shooter shooting? The other gunman? Ballistics will show that. The only thing that makes less sense than the kid being a pro is two pros did this.

"two pros did this."

Well, if the 'pros' were both DEI hires, that would explain a lot ...

FLBear5630 said:

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Married A Horn said:

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Realitybites said:

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Forensics say as many as 3 guns fired at Trump rally

From CNN.com: "Forensic analysis suggests that as many as three weapons were fired at the Trump rally in Butler, Pennsylvania on Saturday.

The FBI said Sunday that the shooter acted alone.

The first three shots were consistent with alleged weapon A, the next five were consistent with alleged weapon B, and the final "acoustic impulse' was emitted by a possible weapon C, per audio analysis by Catalin Grigoras, director of the National Center for Media Forensics at the University of Colorado in Denver, and Cole Whitecotton, Senior Professional Research Associate at the same institution.

Audio analysis has also confirmed that the gunman was about 369 to 393 feet from the podium, according to forensics expert Robert Maher.

This conclusion aligns with CNN's analysis that the gunman was on a rooftop 393 to 492 feet from the podium when shots rang out.

The shots exemplify a "crack-pop' sequence, typical when a supersonic bullet passes a microphone, before the "arrival of the corresponding muzzle blast sound," Maher, who teaches audio forensics at Montana State University, told CNN.

The time between these markers places the shooter 110 to 120 meters from the microphone, Maher said, assuming the bullet is moving at an average speed of 800 to 1,000 meters per second, the equivalent of 2,600 to 3,280 feet per second."

Weapon A was presumably Crooks, and the missed head shot. Weapon C was the SS Countersniper who killed him. That leaves Weapon B unaccounted for, and a second shooter unaccounted for.

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Needs its own thread. I'll go start one. When u hear the audio it is undeniable that there is a 2nd shooter.

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2nd shooter, why? They nicked his ear, didn't even require stitches. 2 gunmen needed to accomplish all that? So who was the 2nd shooter shooting? The other gunman? Ballistics will show that. The only thing that makes less sense than the kid being a pro is two pros did this.

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It was the man with the umbrella I'm telling you. He was stationed on the grassy knoll, just out of sight of the secret service snipers!

Just go listen to the sound differences.

One pro, one patsy...and listen to the audio, it is clear that the shots fired at Trump are coming from two different places and two different trigger fingers.

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That 8 shots would be fired from 165ish

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Eight shots weren't fired from 165ish.

Three were fired from substantially further. The middle grouping was from 165ish. The final single shot was the SS Sniper killing Crooks. Listen to the audio, it is clear as day. It is impossible to go through the audio forensics and continue to think there was a lone gunman.

They aren't other SS snipers.

1. The first three shots are from beyond the SS's self described perimeter.

2. The SS did not fire first.

As far as organs of the government lying, I bet you believe that Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy, too. In 2024, private analysis of publicly available evidence is a much more reliable source than anything Chris Wray says.

Realitybites said:

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They aren't other SS snipers.

1. The first three shots are from beyond the SS's self described perimeter.

2. The SS did not fire first.

As far as organs of the government lying, I bet you believe that Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy, too. In 2024, private analysis of publicly available evidence is a much more reliable source than anything Chris Wray says.

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And what data are they using? TV soundbites? Where are they getting the audio? FOX? CNN?

You really believe they have access to better data than Quantico?

This is not 1964, you really think that they can bury the analysis?

As for Oswald, I have no idea. Neither do you. No one does.

You guys keep looking for these grand schemes and often overlook the "Little Man Theory". Sometimes the answer is just the answer. You can find all sorts of strange items in any analysis, there is always quirky data and circumstances.

FLBear5630 said:

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Realitybites said:

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They aren't other SS snipers.

1. The first three shots are from beyond the SS's self described perimeter.

2. The SS did not fire first.

As far as organs of the government lying, I bet you believe that Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy, too. In 2024, private analysis of publicly available evidence is a much more reliable source than anything Chris Wray says.

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And what data are they using? TV soundbites? Where are they getting the audio? FOX? CNN?

You really believe they have access to better data than Quantico?

This is not 1964, you really think that they can bury the analysis?

As for Oswald, I have no idea. Neither do you. No one does.

You guys keep looking for these grand schemes and often overlook the "Little Man Theory". Sometimes the answer is just the answer. You can find all sorts of strange items in any analysis, there is always quirky data and circumstances.

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Was in 3rd grade in Mesquite , Texas when Kennedy was assassinated. Been to Oswald's sniper perch 3 times over the years. Seen the film close up watching the top of Kenned's head getting blown off…. from the front.

The narrative that Oswald acted alone defies common sense.

As does the current narrative involving Trump.

Congress should hold Cheatle in contempt today and order the Sergeant of Arms to take her into custody.

This is an abomination and simply cannot be tolerated. She allowed the president to be shot in the head, lied about it for a week and is now stonewalling Congress.

— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) July 22, 2024

BREAKING: The head of the Secret Service says the assassination attempt of Donald Trump was the agency's “most significant operational failure” in decades. Director Kimberly Cheatle said she took "full responsibility for any security lapse of our agency." https://t.co/0vnlqLq8Eo

— The Associated Press (@AP) July 22, 2024

boognish_bear said:

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BREAKING: The head of the Secret Service says the assassination attempt of Donald Trump was the agency's “most significant operational failure” in decades. Director Kimberly Cheatle said she took "full responsibility for any security lapse of our agency." https://t.co/0vnlqLq8Eo

— The Associated Press (@AP) July 22, 2024

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Took responsibility, what does that mean?

So far, it means she said the "Buck Stops Here" and will sit to answer questions she will say she doesn't know the answers. That is pretty much it. Stil has job, no charges, no termination, re-assignment. Nothing.

Realitybites said:

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They aren't other SS snipers.

1. The first three shots are from beyond the SS's self described perimeter.

2. The SS did not fire first.

As far as organs of the government lying, I bet you believe that Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy, too. In 2024, private analysis of publicly available evidence is a much more reliable source than anything Chris Wray says.

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If Trump is elected I do hope he releases the study on the JFK assassination. Not sure if anything new will be learned but I still would like to see what little evidence was presented by our government.

Aliceinbubbleland said:

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Realitybites said:

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They aren't other SS snipers.

1. The first three shots are from beyond the SS's self described perimeter.

2. The SS did not fire first.

As far as organs of the government lying, I bet you believe that Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy, too. In 2024, private analysis of publicly available evidence is a much more reliable source than anything Chris Wray says.

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If Trump is elected I do hope he releases the study on the JFK assassination. Not sure if anything new will be learned but I still would like to see what little evidence was presented by our government.

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Even if they do, if it doesn't back up what they want it to say it will be a cover-up. They have personal observational evidence and believe what they think happened or should have happened, which has nothing to do with what really did happen.

They can release all the docs and it won't matter. They will hang on one little shred of data that seems out of place. It is human nature. How we think Humans that do these acts should act rarely matches up with what they do... Which is why they are able to pull it off... Million to one shot, Doc.

Rep. Ro Khanna calls on Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle to resign, as then-director Stuart Knight did after the Reagan assassination attempt in 1981:

"What's the difference between your position and what Stuart Knight did?" pic.twitter.com/tsGyDajkmP

— The Recount (@therecount) July 22, 2024

FLBear5630 said:

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boognish_bear said:

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BREAKING: The head of the Secret Service says the assassination attempt of Donald Trump was the agency's “most significant operational failure” in decades. Director Kimberly Cheatle said she took "full responsibility for any security lapse of our agency." https://t.co/0vnlqLq8Eo

— The Associated Press (@AP) July 22, 2024

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Took responsibility, what does that mean?

So far, it means she said the "Buck Stops Here" and will sit to answer questions she will say she doesn't know the answers. That is pretty much it. Stil has job, no charges, no termination, re-assignment. Nothing.

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The fella that could boot here out of the Directorship is still nowhere to be found. She serves at his pleasure... now that the assassination attempt failed, I would expect her to get booted.