🚨🚨🚨 "We found the model attempting to write self-propagating worms, and leaving hidden notes to future instances of itself to undermine its developers' intentions." https://t.co/zReagUowHK pic.twitter.com/fAiB3IKyOw

— AI Notkilleveryoneism Memes ⏸️ (@AISafetyMemes) May 26, 2025

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Many people will lose their well paid jobs. Investment bankers, lawyers, consultants, accountants, doctors, designers, architects and others. It will be brutal folks, buckle up. pic.twitter.com/P0m2pKDa7d

— Michael A. Arouet (@MichaelAArouet) May 27, 2025

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How are doctors going to get replaced by AI? That one I just don't get. Won't it need to be a combination of AI and robots?

I could maybe see how at a family doc AI could take over with a nurse getting all the vitals and info and AI determining what is wrong. But for surgeries, ER, etc, it seems (to me) that AI can't replace the people doing those things

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Many people will lose their well paid jobs. Investment bankers, lawyers, consultants, accountants, doctors, designers, architects and others. It will be brutal folks, buckle up. pic.twitter.com/P0m2pKDa7d

— Michael A. Arouet (@MichaelAArouet) May 27, 2025

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How are doctors going to get replaced by AI? That one I just don't get. Won't it need to be a combination of AI and robots?

I could maybe see how at a family doc AI could take over with a nurse getting all the vitals and info and AI determining what is wrong. But for surgeries, ER, etc, it seems (to me) that AI can't replace the people doing those things

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Agree....it's going to have to be some combination. Maybe instead of 6 or 7 seven humans in the room for a big surgery it's just 1 or 2.

If I'm going under the knife i want there to at least be some human presence in the room.

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BREAKING:

China has launched the world's first and largest fleet of 100 driverless electric mining trucks, equipped with Huawei technology. pic.twitter.com/6NWGzUZiXI

— Current Report (@Currentreport1) May 18, 2025

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China is gonna need lots of AI powered vehicles to replace the workers they won't have….

#China’s demographic crisis looms over Xi Jinping’s 3rd term. Birth rate has been in decline for years. Between start of Xi’s rule in 2012 and 2021, number of babies born each year fell by >45%, to 10.6mn. Population is expected to fall <800mln in 2100.https://t.co/qNWzQUUSKv pic.twitter.com/9gAuG5NWRq

— Holger Zschaepitz (@Schuldensuehner) October 3, 2022

That musculoskeletal one is nightmare fuel

🚨 This changes everything.

China’s robots just mastered martial arts.

Others jog like humans. Some even reason in real-time.

These 13 insane clips feel like sci-fi. But they’re 100% real:

1. China's EngineAI humanoid robot can run fast like humanpic.twitter.com/116cfqMFwx

— Rishabh (@Rixhabh__) May 28, 2025

4. Protoclone is the first musculoskeletal android

Designed to mimic human joints and muscles—no hard limbs here.pic.twitter.com/Fr6WzYo9dN

— Rishabh (@Rixhabh__) May 28, 2025

I’m not a doomer and always been pro tech acceleration. Everyone I’m talking to who works in AI. Man. We are about to be hit by a freight train.

— Cernovich (@Cernovich) May 29, 2025

At a recent dinner I met a very senior engineer at one of the Big Four tech cos.

His team develops tooling for a 0-engineer future. They're not allowed to tell anyone internally what they're working on to avoid mass panic. He figures mega layoffs start in 18 months.

— Kyle Corbitt (@corbtt) May 28, 2025

TIMES: Most people will lose their job soon

"Among insiders at the top AI companies, it’s the near-consensus opinion that the day of most people’s technological unemployment, where they lose their jobs to AI, will arrive soon.

AGI is coming for every part of the labor market.… pic.twitter.com/hCuZotdY5z

— Chubby♨️ (@kimmonismus) May 30, 2025

AI is making Universal Basic Income a necessity. Who will make it happen?

— Andrew Yang🧢⬆️🇺🇸 (@AndrewYang) May 31, 2025

2. The Viking Age pic.twitter.com/CrGpnXzjIK

— Atal (@ZabihullahAtal) May 31, 2025

3D printed homes


https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1AuXwKidqK/?mibextid=UalRPS

AI can cause unemployment to go to 20% in 5 years, per Anthropic CEO

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) June 2, 2025

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3D printed homes


https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1AuXwKidqK/?mibextid=UalRPS

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I can't believe he was able to buy that printer for only about $500,000. Wonder how much the materials cost to make a house.

Unsupervised Full Self-Driving Teslas (Robotaxis) will start transporting passengers in Texas, Austin this Month, with plans to expand to numerous U.S. cities by the end of this year.

The future is here!pic.twitter.com/xMFP5j26Ce

— SMX 🇺🇸 (@iam_smx) June 1, 2025

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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3D printed homes


https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1AuXwKidqK/?mibextid=UalRPS

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I can't believe he was able to buy that printer for only about $500,000. Wonder how much the materials cost to make a house.

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That amount surprised me as well.

Maybe that is the basic piece of equipment and the operational software is not included in that price. The machine itself doesn't look that complicated.

$AMZN NOW DEPLOYS 750K+ ROBOTS ACROSS 75% OF ORDERS

AI-powered fulfillment centers, delivery bots & drones could push retail margins toward 11% long-term 👀pic.twitter.com/DREM7uQaOh

— Shay Boloor (@StockSavvyShay) June 2, 2025

Seeing all the advancements I'm thinking the US postal service could definitely benefit

Sorting the mail done by robot. Delivery all done by robot (24 hours, seven days a week).

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Seeing all the advancements I'm thinking the US postal service could definitely benefit

Sorting the mail done by robot. Delivery all done by robot (24 hours, seven days a week).

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Will dogs still chase robot mailmen?

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BearFan33 said:

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Seeing all the advancements I'm thinking the US postal service could definitely benefit

Sorting the mail done by robot. Delivery all done by robot (24 hours, seven days a week).

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Will dogs still chase robot mailmen?

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Ruh Row George

https://images.app.goo.gl/UvijFzDjaRy9yY4JA

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Ai and robot use in the military brings up another ethical angle...it's when it feels like we started getting into Terminator territory.

Crewed aircraft will be destroyed instantly by cheap drone swarms https://t.co/7tCC8CKKaD

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) April 26, 2025

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Elon is right in concept but the AF has planned for his caution a lot more than he apparently realizes. It's a false dilemma to suggest we should dump manned aircraft for drones. At least not yet.

Stealth aircraft will increasingly become "bomb trucks" and c&c nodes for drone swarms. To understand the significance of that, look to the recent Uke drone attacks on Russian strategic air fleet using 18-wheelers clandestinely outfitted as "bomb trucks" for FPV drones. Big drones have the same survivability problem that manned aircraft; small ones are survivable but have severe limitations on range and payload. Answer: load up 5th & 6th Gen aircraft to carry the swarms in close "enough."

There is a reason the AF cancelled the F-22 and bought a bunch of upgraded F-15's. F-15 carries the munitions at standoff range while the F35 goes in close and paints the target (for dumber ergo cheaper munitions). Same for drone swarms. AF is already doing exercises on drone swarms as adjunct to air dominance. Taking that into strategic and tactical support roles is lot a long leap.

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AI is making Universal Basic Income a necessity. Who will make it happen?

— Andrew Yang🧢⬆️🇺🇸 (@AndrewYang) May 31, 2025

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I don't like the idea of it but if there aren't a ton of new jobs for all the people replaced by AI it will be a necessity and the tax will have to be on this big companies that make billions with a handful of employees after AI lets them lay everyone off.

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boognish_bear said:

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AI is making Universal Basic Income a necessity. Who will make it happen?

— Andrew Yang🧢⬆️🇺🇸 (@AndrewYang) May 31, 2025

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I don't like the idea of it but if there aren't a ton of new jobs for all the people replaced by AI it will be a necessity and the tax will have to be on this big companies that make billions with a handful of employees after AI lets them lay everyone off.

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Think this through.

This is how you destroy economies around the world.

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AI is making Universal Basic Income a necessity. Who will make it happen?

— Andrew Yang🧢⬆️🇺🇸 (@AndrewYang) May 31, 2025

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I don't like the idea of it but if there aren't a ton of new jobs for all the people replaced by AI it will be a necessity and the tax will have to be on this big companies that make billions with a handful of employees after AI lets them lay everyone off.

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Think this through.

This is how you destroy economies around the world.

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It's a weird thing to think about...but what do you do if there just aren't enough jobs for people.

Some can move over to trades… But there is a limit to how many plumbers and HVAC people we need.

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AI is making Universal Basic Income a necessity. Who will make it happen?

— Andrew Yang🧢⬆️🇺🇸 (@AndrewYang) May 31, 2025

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I don't like the idea of it but if there aren't a ton of new jobs for all the people replaced by AI it will be a necessity and the tax will have to be on this big companies that make billions with a handful of employees after AI lets them lay everyone off.

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Think this through.

This is how you destroy economies around the world.

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It's a weird thing to think about...but what do you do if there just aren't enough jobs for people.

Some can move over to trades… But there is a limit to how many plumbers and HVAC people we need.

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Well, look at History. Every so often there are major changes in how people live and work. My ancestors, for example, left the highlands of Scotland to live in the city, because sheep and loom work amounted to slow starvation. Similarly, millions of women found themselves forced to find new work when computers abolished the secretarial pool, and the rise of the automobile eviscerated men who have worked with horses their whole lives, from stables to carriages and all the support trades like saddles and blacksmithing.

It was always coming, the next big seismic shift in how people live.

Now the trendy thing is to say how AI is going to wipe out virtually all human work. But that's not true, if you think it through. I can go through the weeds of it if you want, but I'm going to keep this as succinct as possible and just presume you can discover the reasons for yourself why AI has limits to its growth and application.

Then there is the hobgoblin of UBI.

OK, so the first problem is that the government is going to run anything like UBI, and while some are worse than others, depending on the government for your food, shelter and so on has always worked out very badly for the people involved. Not least because government never seems to have a plan for someone to get out from that dependency. And there are a LOT of people in government who would just love to bring back serfdom, which what UBI would do.

Again, I could walk you through the ways UBI would have to work, so that any sane person would rather find a new vocation than hand his or her life over to the soulless ghouls in political office.

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boognish_bear said:

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AI is making Universal Basic Income a necessity. Who will make it happen?

— Andrew Yang🧢⬆️🇺🇸 (@AndrewYang) May 31, 2025

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I don't like the idea of it but if there aren't a ton of new jobs for all the people replaced by AI it will be a necessity and the tax will have to be on this big companies that make billions with a handful of employees after AI lets them lay everyone off.

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Think this through.

This is how you destroy economies around the world.

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It's a weird thing to think about...but what do you do if there just aren't enough jobs for people.

Some can move over to trades… But there is a limit to how many plumbers and HVAC people we need.

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Well, look at History. Every so often there are major changes in how people live and work. My ancestors, for example, left the highlands of Scotland to live in the city, because sheep and loom work amounted to slow starvation. Similarly, millions of women found themselves forced to find new work when computers abolished the secretarial pool, and the rise of the automobile eviscerated men who have worked with horses their whole lives, from stables to carriages and all the support trades like saddles and blacksmithing.

It was always coming, the next big seismic shift in how people live.

Now the trendy thing is to say how AI is going to wipe out virtually all human work. But that's not true, if you think it through. I can go through the weeds of it if you want, but I'm going to keep this as succinct as possible and just presume you can discover the reasons for yourself why AI has limits to its growth and application.

Then there is the hobgoblin of UBI.

OK, so the first problem is that the government is going to run anything like UBI, and while some are worse than others, depending on the government for your food, shelter and so on has always worked out very badly for the people involved. Not least because government never seems to have a plan for someone to get out from that dependency. And there are a LOT of people in government who would just love to bring back serfdom, which what UBI would do.

Again, I could walk you through the ways UBI would have to work, so that any sane person would rather find a new vocation than hand his or her life over to the soulless ghouls in political office.

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I wasn't really trying to make the point that UBI was the answer...but more just thinking out loud that with advances in Ai we may face a job shortage in the future and we will have to have some type of solution.

Mankind has repeatedly seen jobs become obsolete or redundant through technological advances. So far new jobs have come up in the wake that seem to even out potential job loss.

I've just heard many futurists speculate that Ai is a different animal and many more jobs will become obsolete in a shorter amount of time than we've ever seen before. They project this growth and consequential job loss is more exponential.

Maybe the sky isn't really falling...time will tell.

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cowboycwr said:

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boognish_bear said:

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AI is making Universal Basic Income a necessity. Who will make it happen?

— Andrew Yang🧢⬆️🇺🇸 (@AndrewYang) May 31, 2025

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I don't like the idea of it but if there aren't a ton of new jobs for all the people replaced by AI it will be a necessity and the tax will have to be on this big companies that make billions with a handful of employees after AI lets them lay everyone off.

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Think this through.

This is how you destroy economies around the world.

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It's a weird thing to think about...but what do you do if there just aren't enough jobs for people.

Some can move over to trades… But there is a limit to how many plumbers and HVAC people we need.

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Well, look at History. Every so often there are major changes in how people live and work. My ancestors, for example, left the highlands of Scotland to live in the city, because sheep and loom work amounted to slow starvation. Similarly, millions of women found themselves forced to find new work when computers abolished the secretarial pool, and the rise of the automobile eviscerated men who have worked with horses their whole lives, from stables to carriages and all the support trades like saddles and blacksmithing.

It was always coming, the next big seismic shift in how people live.

Now the trendy thing is to say how AI is going to wipe out virtually all human work. But that's not true, if you think it through. I can go through the weeds of it if you want, but I'm going to keep this as succinct as possible and just presume you can discover the reasons for yourself why AI has limits to its growth and application.

Then there is the hobgoblin of UBI.

OK, so the first problem is that the government is going to run anything like UBI, and while some are worse than others, depending on the government for your food, shelter and so on has always worked out very badly for the people involved. Not least because government never seems to have a plan for someone to get out from that dependency. And there are a LOT of people in government who would just love to bring back serfdom, which what UBI would do.

Again, I could walk you through the ways UBI would have to work, so that any sane person would rather find a new vocation than hand his or her life over to the soulless ghouls in political office.

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I wasn't really trying to make the point that UBI was the answer...but more just thinking out loud that with advances in Ai we may face a job shortage in the future and we will have to have some type of solution.

Mankind has repeatedly seen jobs become obsolete or redundant through technological advances. So far new jobs have come up in the wake that seem to even out potential job loss.

I've just heard many futurists speculate that Ai is a different animal and many more jobs will become obsolete in a shorter amount of time than we've ever seen before. They project this growth and consequential job loss is more exponential.

Maybe the sky isn't really falling...time will tell.

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Your last line was kind of my point. Throughout history there have always been new jobs, and it will happen here, even if we can't tell what it will be.

But most business depends on human interaction. Just because someone can find new ways to turn an experience into a vending machine does not mean it will succeed.

Keep in mind as well, that the companies making AI will at some point be focused on monetizing their invention. AI will get more expensive even as it gets more specialized. That's another point from history that people ignore, preferring worrying about a dystopia which will never really arrive instead of looking for the better options out there.

Some great ideas will be made into wonderful opportunities. Look for 'em.

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boognish_bear said:

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AI is making Universal Basic Income a necessity. Who will make it happen?

— Andrew Yang🧢⬆️🇺🇸 (@AndrewYang) May 31, 2025

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I don't like the idea of it but if there aren't a ton of new jobs for all the people replaced by AI it will be a necessity and the tax will have to be on this big companies that make billions with a handful of employees after AI lets them lay everyone off.

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Think this through.

This is how you destroy economies around the world.

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How would it destroy economies? If no one is working because of AI and robots only a select few would be making money.

There obviously would have to be a lot of details worked out but if there are not enough jobs people have to have a way to survive

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boognish_bear said:

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cowboycwr said:

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boognish_bear said:

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AI is making Universal Basic Income a necessity. Who will make it happen?

— Andrew Yang🧢⬆️🇺🇸 (@AndrewYang) May 31, 2025

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I don't like the idea of it but if there aren't a ton of new jobs for all the people replaced by AI it will be a necessity and the tax will have to be on this big companies that make billions with a handful of employees after AI lets them lay everyone off.

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Think this through.

This is how you destroy economies around the world.

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It's a weird thing to think about...but what do you do if there just aren't enough jobs for people.

Some can move over to trades… But there is a limit to how many plumbers and HVAC people we need.

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Well, look at History. Every so often there are major changes in how people live and work. My ancestors, for example, left the highlands of Scotland to live in the city, because sheep and loom work amounted to slow starvation. Similarly, millions of women found themselves forced to find new work when computers abolished the secretarial pool, and the rise of the automobile eviscerated men who have worked with horses their whole lives, from stables to carriages and all the support trades like saddles and blacksmithing.

It was always coming, the next big seismic shift in how people live.

Now the trendy thing is to say how AI is going to wipe out virtually all human work. But that's not true, if you think it through. I can go through the weeds of it if you want, but I'm going to keep this as succinct as possible and just presume you can discover the reasons for yourself why AI has limits to its growth and application.

Then there is the hobgoblin of UBI.

OK, so the first problem is that the government is going to run anything like UBI, and while some are worse than others, depending on the government for your food, shelter and so on has always worked out very badly for the people involved. Not least because government never seems to have a plan for someone to get out from that dependency. And there are a LOT of people in government who would just love to bring back serfdom, which what UBI would do.

Again, I could walk you through the ways UBI would have to work, so that any sane person would rather find a new vocation than hand his or her life over to the soulless ghouls in political office.

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The problem is that throughout history as technology has made certain jobs disappear other jobs replaced them.

Take your horse example.

All those jobs were lost but you had new jobs in mechanics, factories for the various parts, tire shops, gas stations, oil industry, etc.

This time though the new technology is replacing jobs without new fields being created. Whether it is for AI or robots the jobs are just being replaced, not new ones being created.

"not new ones being created."

Really?

I brought up to clear examples in History. Automobiles replacing horse travel, and computers replacing secretarial pools. In both cases the new jobs created many more jobs, and the same will happen with AI once people get down to it.

The thing about AI though, is that while it can mimic human emotion and behavior, AI has not and will not replace humans to the degree AI fanboys imagine.

Look at Tesla. Musk made it cool to own an EV, but Teslas still don't have the market share of, say, Lexus or Ford pickups.

Or consider the Automats from the 1960s. Automated restaurants with a wide range of foods, you could get your food quick and as order with no human contact. They went out of business though, but restaurants, even drive-throughs, depend on human experiences.

AI is the shiny new object, but it will only be significantly used where it is cost-effective. I have seen a lot of buyer's remorse when companies find out the automation does not produce a more profitable result.

Pay attention to who is selling the hype.

A high unemployment rate at depression era levels and worse would hamper money making for all if it lasted very long. Producers of consumer goods need consumers. AI is not a consumer.
Henry Ford had the right idea of paying his newfangled automobile assembly line workers well so they could afford what they were making.

In a new note released today, Morgan Stanley's Adam Jonas predicts that the physical work conducted by 1 billion humanoids robots (excluding training) may require over 4,000 TWh of incremental annual electricity demand - roughly equal to 1 full US electric grid. pic.twitter.com/KP1XtvYJ2q

— Sawyer Merritt (@SawyerMerritt) June 2, 2025

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"not new ones being created."

Really?

I brought up to clear examples in History. Automobiles replacing horse travel, and computers replacing secretarial pools. In both cases the new jobs created many more jobs, and the same will happen with AI once people get down to it.

The thing about AI though, is that while it can mimic human emotion and behavior, AI has not and will not replace humans to the degree AI fanboys imagine.

Look at Tesla. Musk made it cool to own an EV, but Teslas still don't have the market share of, say, Lexus or Ford pickups.

Or consider the Automats from the 1960s. Automated restaurants with a wide range of foods, you could get your food quick and as order with no human contact. They went out of business though, but restaurants, even drive-throughs, depend on human experiences.

AI is the shiny new object, but it will only be significantly used where it is cost-effective. I have seen a lot of buyer's remorse when companies find out the automation does not produce a more profitable result.

Pay attention to who is selling the hype.

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You didn't read my post clearly or you misunderstood.

In history yes new jobs have been created. I even talked about it in my post.

But right now that is NOT happening. People are being laid off because AI is replacing jobs. But there are not enough new jobs being created to give those people jobs.

AI will replace humans to the levels imagined. And beyond. Removing the human emotion and behavior is part of the attraction for AI in some fields.

Your restaurant example is bad as most restaurants (especially fast food) are moving to kiosks. Even sit down restaurants have begun moving to little kiosks to pay or even order from at the table. Go beyond restaurants and many places are using kiosks or self check outs.

AI will be replacing a ton of jobs. Robots will replace even more. Combined that is where the problem will be as there will not be enough new jobs created for the people getting replaced.

Sorry to bicker, but your post does not hold water.

AI is just now growing to a place where it can significantly affect the economy, so saying 'no new jobs have been created' is not supported at all. It's like deciding 2 minutes into a game that it's over.

I have presented two historical examples which are relevant here, and you are rejecting them because you apparently prefer panic.

There's a long way to go to see how this plays out, but there is absolutely no reason to believe there won't be people who rise to the challenge and create new opportunities. As for AI, others have pointed out that to make money you need customers, and AI cannot damage a significant portion of its consumer base and survive itself.

This will be a little strange to encounter the first time

JUST IN: Amazon $AMZN to test humanoid robots for deliveries. pic.twitter.com/Ur2GJ4Qo44

— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) June 5, 2025