Walking Corpses

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KaiBear
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Hamas Harry running the same disinformation playbook he did during covid.
1. Ignore primary data and first hand evidence
2. Cite "experts" that tell you to doubt your lying eyes
3. Ignore or debase all challengers

"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. His heart sank as he thought of the enormous power arrayed against him, the ease with which any Party intellectual would overthrow him in debate, the subtle arguments which he would not be able to understand, much less answer. And yet he was in the right! They were wrong and he was right." - George Orwell

Harry sold his brain and soul for The Party.



Sam merely enjoys trolling the board.

And this week's flavor is Jews.
J.R.
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Ill say it again, it is past time for the Israeli people to remove the current govt to the roots or we need to take out Netanyahu and give him our own Mossad justice!
Robert Wilson
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Robert Wilson said:

Yogi said:

Robert Wilson said:

ScottS said:

J.R. said:

ATL Bear said:

J.R. said:

Well your dear leader, the Liar in Chief has finally gotten it through his thick skull that That monster Bibi and his government is responsible for the genocide just like it took him being played for a fool by Putin. He said so today for the first time

This is not a genocide.

yes it is. sorry


Prove it Jr.

Liberals like to play word games. That's fascism. That's genocide. That's patriarchy. That's late stage capitalism. It's all nonsense. Conservatives do it, too, but not quite as often.

Think things, not words, if you want to have any precision of thought and reasoning.

That's my frustration: you can't have an honest discussion when debating propaganda.

But but but TRANSPHOBIA. And Hitler. And Nazis. That's *literally* violence. [insert noise of Charlie Brown teacher]

How could I forget "a trans woman is a WOMAN."

rebut:
Porteroso
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What a bunch of petty arguments. You guys don't like the NYT, you dont like the BBC, CNN, the UN, just admit you don't want to admit there are food shortages, but why?

I understand the reality denial, but I don't understand the why this time? What would you have to give up in order to accept the reality that people are starving? Maybe I am missing something.
J.R.
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some of these folk do not have the abiility for independent thought unless it is put under their nose by Fox News bots or some freaking rando the picked up on the Twatter. Get out more from your backwater E. Texas town or Edward Scixxorhand burbs. Travel would be helpful too. Be a traveler , not a tourist. The floating mobil home (cruise) doesn't count
canoso
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Gazans are things in Hamas' game. Expendable objects. Hamas is the entity starving Gazans.
Porteroso
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canoso said:

Gazans are things in Hamas' game. Expendable objects. Hamas is the entity starving Gazans.

So who should feed them? Or should nobody? Certainly nobody expects Hamas to.
J.R.
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canoso said:

Gazans are things in Hamas' game. Expendable objects. Hamas is the entity starving Gazans.

riggggt...turn of RWNJ News
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J.R. said:

canoso said:

Gazans are things in Hamas' game. Expendable objects. Hamas is the entity starving Gazans.

riggggt...turn of RWNJ News

Is this English?
ATL Bear
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Sam Lowry said:

I'm A Genocide Scholar. I Know It When I See It.
By Omer Bartov
July, 15 2025

My inescapable conclusion has become that Israel is committing genocide against the Palestinian people. Having grown up in a Zionist home, lived the first half of my life in Israel, served in the I.D.F. as a soldier and officer and spent most of my career researching and writing on war crimes and the Holocaust, this was a painful conclusion to reach, and one that I resisted as long as I could. But I have been teaching classes on genocide for a quarter of a century. I can recognize one when I see one.

This is not just my conclusion. A growing number of experts in genocide studies and international law have concluded that Israel's actions in Gaza can only be defined as genocide. So has Francesca Albanese, the U.N. special rapporteur for the West Bank and Gaza, and Amnesty International. South Africa has brought a genocide case against Israel at the International Court of Justice.

The continued denial of this designation by states, international organizations and legal and scholarly experts will cause unmitigated damage not just to the people of Gaza and Israel but also to the system of international law established in the wake of the horrors of the Holocaust, designed to prevent such atrocities from happening ever again. It is a threat to the very foundations of the moral order on which we all depend.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/15/opinion/israel-gaza-holocaust-genocide-palestinians.html
It should have said "I'm someone who wants to get published in the NY Times, so I'm going to drop rhetorical bombs".

I have a good friend who is over there. He said a few intel mistakes by the Israelis resulted in two incidents in the past month+ that killed a large number of non combatants. It's been jumped on by the sympathetic media, and the pro-Palestinian echo chambers (these are my words), who barely mentioned the Hamas counter attack earlier this month that killed 5 Israeli soldiers. Israel won't apologize or admit fault for it as they already know they'll be hammered for it.

What doesn't get reported are the weapons caches they're seizing at these crossings, many hidden in aid trucks. They tightened the clearance process which has slowed some aid delivery down. This isn't genocide. This is an ugly asymmetrical nightmare with few good options without a Hamas surrender or Israeli capitulation, neither of which is likely at the moment.
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GrowlTowel said:

J.R. said:

canoso said:

Gazans are things in Hamas' game. Expendable objects. Hamas is the entity starving Gazans.

riggggt...turn of RWNJ News

Is this English?

sorry professor . I think you knew what was meant. You are a turd RWNJ. Go away
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canoso said:

Gazans are things in Hamas' game. Expendable objects. Hamas is the entity starving Gazans.

Absolutely. Unless you buy into what the Main Stream Media, aka Soros Puppets, are selling with the sole intent of getting USAid funded again so they in turn, can fund Democrats. It's always a shell game with them. They want all US Taxpayers to fund the Party of Open Society,
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Harrison Bergeron
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Porteroso said:

What a bunch of petty arguments. You guys don't like the NYT, you dont like the BBC, CNN, the UN, just admit you don't want to admit there are food shortages, but why?

I understand the reality denial, but I don't understand the why this time? What would you have to give up in order to accept the reality that people are starving? Maybe I am missing something.

Because the only food shortages occur when Hamas steals the food.

Israel has poured > 10 million meals into Gaza.

You can literally see the video of Hamas stealing the food, you respond with "DEEPFAKE! The New York Times tells me Israel bad!"

I think what I have explained to you but you cannot understand is that it is not inherently the left-wing media. It is the fact that:
1. The only sources they cite are Hamas
2. The BBC has been proven to intentionally push an anti-Jewish narrative

Like USAID, they're all butthurt that Israel and the U.S. stopped given food to Hamas and actually give it the Gazans, which cuts off both Hamas' and NGO's revenue stream. They don't give two ****s about Gazans - just like the other Arabs - they're mad about losing $$$ for themselves and the terrorists.

Does that seem like fair reporting?
Harrison Bergeron
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Porteroso said:

canoso said:

Gazans are things in Hamas' game. Expendable objects. Hamas is the entity starving Gazans.

So who should feed them? Or should nobody? Certainly nobody expects Hamas to.

Did America delivery meals to Germany during World War 2?

Should it have? Was America committing genocide?
Harrison Bergeron
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Porteroso said:

canoso said:

Gazans are things in Hamas' game. Expendable objects. Hamas is the entity starving Gazans.

So who should feed them? Or should nobody? Certainly nobody expects Hamas to.

Hamas. Their elected government.
Robert Wilson
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It's a GENOCIDE. Did you not hear the word that I said? GENOCIDE. GENOCIDE! GENOCIDE!!! I said it's a GENOCIDE!

That is irrefutable, inflammatory language that you must accept unless you are willing to stipulate that you are a bad person. Word games for the win.

P.S. gENOCIDE!!!
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Porteroso said:

canoso said:

Gazans are things in Hamas' game. Expendable objects. Hamas is the entity starving Gazans.

So who should feed them? Or should nobody? Certainly nobody expects Hamas to.


Maybe, gasp, their own ******* selves. And if that's not working out, well, they should probably overthrow the government that they put in place. Seems like they may have chosen poorly.
Robert Wilson
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Porteroso said:

canoso said:

Gazans are things in Hamas' game. Expendable objects. Hamas is the entity starving Gazans.

So who should feed them? Or should nobody? Certainly nobody expects Hamas to.

Did America delivery meals to Germany during World War 2?

Should it have? Was America committing genocide?


No, Germans are white. And, those world wars notwithstanding (or maybe even kind of making the point), they tend to be pretty competent and prosperous.That means you don't have to play the word games. Unless, of course, they are men pretending to be women. In that event, they are a discrete and insular minority worthy of word game treatment and it is entirely possible that they might be genocided or that language directed towards them might be literal violence.
Sam Lowry
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ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

I'm A Genocide Scholar. I Know It When I See It.
By Omer Bartov
July, 15 2025

My inescapable conclusion has become that Israel is committing genocide against the Palestinian people. Having grown up in a Zionist home, lived the first half of my life in Israel, served in the I.D.F. as a soldier and officer and spent most of my career researching and writing on war crimes and the Holocaust, this was a painful conclusion to reach, and one that I resisted as long as I could. But I have been teaching classes on genocide for a quarter of a century. I can recognize one when I see one.

This is not just my conclusion. A growing number of experts in genocide studies and international law have concluded that Israel's actions in Gaza can only be defined as genocide. So has Francesca Albanese, the U.N. special rapporteur for the West Bank and Gaza, and Amnesty International. South Africa has brought a genocide case against Israel at the International Court of Justice.

The continued denial of this designation by states, international organizations and legal and scholarly experts will cause unmitigated damage not just to the people of Gaza and Israel but also to the system of international law established in the wake of the horrors of the Holocaust, designed to prevent such atrocities from happening ever again. It is a threat to the very foundations of the moral order on which we all depend.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/15/opinion/israel-gaza-holocaust-genocide-palestinians.html

It should have said "I'm someone who wants to get published in the NY Times, so I'm going to drop rhetorical bombs".

I have a good friend who is over there. He said a few intel mistakes by the Israelis resulted in two incidents in the past month+ that killed a large number of non combatants. It's been jumped on by the sympathetic media, and the pro-Palestinian echo chambers (these are my words), who barely mentioned the Hamas counter attack earlier this month that killed 5 Israeli soldiers. Israel won't apologize or admit fault for it as they already know they'll be hammered for it.

What doesn't get reported are the weapons caches they're seizing at these crossings, many hidden in aid trucks. They tightened the clearance process which has slowed some aid delivery down. This isn't genocide. This is an ugly asymmetrical nightmare with few good options without a Hamas surrender or Israeli capitulation, neither of which is likely at the moment.

Your friend must think you are pretty naive.
Sam Lowry
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"My scrub nurse that I was working with every single day was followed home by a quadcopter drone and it didn't kill him on the way home, from eyewitness. It waited until he was in his tent and greeted his three children and killed them all."

ScottS
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Porteroso said:

canoso said:

Gazans are things in Hamas' game. Expendable objects. Hamas is the entity starving Gazans.

So who should feed them? Or should nobody? Certainly nobody expects Hamas to.


Hamas must be removed or there will be no progress.
Harrison Bergeron
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Sam Lowry said:

"My scrub nurse that I was working with every single day was followed home by a quadcopter drone and it didn't kill him on the way home, from eyewitness. It waited until he was in his tent and greeted his three children and killed them all."




Hamas Harry understands the assignment.
Porteroso
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Porteroso said:

What a bunch of petty arguments. You guys don't like the NYT, you dont like the BBC, CNN, the UN, just admit you don't want to admit there are food shortages, but why?

I understand the reality denial, but I don't understand the why this time? What would you have to give up in order to accept the reality that people are starving? Maybe I am missing something.

Because the only food shortages occur when Hamas steals the food.

Israel has poured > 10 million meals into Gaza.

You can literally see the video of Hamas stealing the food, you respond with "DEEPFAKE! The New York Times tells me Israel bad!"

I think what I have explained to you but you cannot understand is that it is not inherently the left-wing media. It is the fact that:
1. The only sources they cite are Hamas
2. The BBC has been proven to intentionally push an anti-Jewish narrative

Like USAID, they're all butthurt that Israel and the U.S. stopped given food to Hamas and actually give it the Gazans, which cuts off both Hamas' and NGO's revenue stream. They don't give two ****s about Gazans - just like the other Arabs - they're mad about losing $$$ for themselves and the terrorists.

Does that seem like fair reporting?

10 million meals? There are about 2 million residents of Gaza, so what is that, food for 3 days? Did you miss a zero or 2?
Porteroso
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Porteroso said:

canoso said:

Gazans are things in Hamas' game. Expendable objects. Hamas is the entity starving Gazans.

So who should feed them? Or should nobody? Certainly nobody expects Hamas to.

Hamas. Their elected government.

You can't be that stupid.
Porteroso
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ScottS said:

Porteroso said:

canoso said:

Gazans are things in Hamas' game. Expendable objects. Hamas is the entity starving Gazans.

So who should feed them? Or should nobody? Certainly nobody expects Hamas to.


Hamas must be removed or there will be no progress.

Totally agree. Israel blocking aid and starving them probably won't help with that though.
Porteroso
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Robert Wilson said:

Porteroso said:

canoso said:

Gazans are things in Hamas' game. Expendable objects. Hamas is the entity starving Gazans.

So who should feed them? Or should nobody? Certainly nobody expects Hamas to.

Maybe, gasp, their own ******* selves. And if that's not working out, well, they should probably overthrow the government that they put in place. Seems like they may have chosen poorly.

LMAO! Israel bombs their homes to the ground, destroys nearly every hospital, and of course I support their war against Hamas! But Israel targeted their infrastructure, and now you want them to use that bombed infrastructure to "feed themselves." What a truly dumbass take.
Robert Wilson
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Porteroso said:

Robert Wilson said:

Porteroso said:

canoso said:

Gazans are things in Hamas' game. Expendable objects. Hamas is the entity starving Gazans.

So who should feed them? Or should nobody? Certainly nobody expects Hamas to.

Maybe, gasp, their own ******* selves. And if that's not working out, well, they should probably overthrow the government that they put in place. Seems like they may have chosen poorly.

LMAO! Israel bombs their homes to the ground, destroys nearly every hospital, and of course I support their war against Hamas! But Israel targeted their infrastructure, and now you want them to use that bombed infrastructure to "feed themselves." What a truly dumbass take.

Mmm hmm. Why did that infrastructure get destroyed?

Might expedite things if they'd surrender and release the hostages they've been holding since October of 2023.
Sam Lowry
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Robert Wilson said:

Porteroso said:

Robert Wilson said:

Porteroso said:

canoso said:

Gazans are things in Hamas' game. Expendable objects. Hamas is the entity starving Gazans.

So who should feed them? Or should nobody? Certainly nobody expects Hamas to.

Maybe, gasp, their own ******* selves. And if that's not working out, well, they should probably overthrow the government that they put in place. Seems like they may have chosen poorly.

LMAO! Israel bombs their homes to the ground, destroys nearly every hospital, and of course I support their war against Hamas! But Israel targeted their infrastructure, and now you want them to use that bombed infrastructure to "feed themselves." What a truly dumbass take.

Mmm hmm. Why did that infrastructure get destroyed?

Might expedite things if they'd surrender and release the hostages they've been holding since October of 2023.

Israel's stated position is that it will not.
Robert Wilson
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Sam Lowry said:

Robert Wilson said:

Porteroso said:

Robert Wilson said:

Porteroso said:

canoso said:

Gazans are things in Hamas' game. Expendable objects. Hamas is the entity starving Gazans.

So who should feed them? Or should nobody? Certainly nobody expects Hamas to.

Maybe, gasp, their own ******* selves. And if that's not working out, well, they should probably overthrow the government that they put in place. Seems like they may have chosen poorly.

LMAO! Israel bombs their homes to the ground, destroys nearly every hospital, and of course I support their war against Hamas! But Israel targeted their infrastructure, and now you want them to use that bombed infrastructure to "feed themselves." What a truly dumbass take.

Mmm hmm. Why did that infrastructure get destroyed?

Might expedite things if they'd surrender and release the hostages they've been holding since October of 2023.

Israel's stated position is that it will not.

Silly me, I'd probably give that a shot in any event. I expect it might help, including with all us knuckle draggers around the world who at the moment think this is kinda their fault.
Sam Lowry
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Robert Wilson said:

Sam Lowry said:

Robert Wilson said:

Porteroso said:

Robert Wilson said:

Porteroso said:

canoso said:

Gazans are things in Hamas' game. Expendable objects. Hamas is the entity starving Gazans.

So who should feed them? Or should nobody? Certainly nobody expects Hamas to.

Maybe, gasp, their own ******* selves. And if that's not working out, well, they should probably overthrow the government that they put in place. Seems like they may have chosen poorly.

LMAO! Israel bombs their homes to the ground, destroys nearly every hospital, and of course I support their war against Hamas! But Israel targeted their infrastructure, and now you want them to use that bombed infrastructure to "feed themselves." What a truly dumbass take.

Mmm hmm. Why did that infrastructure get destroyed?

Might expedite things if they'd surrender and release the hostages they've been holding since October of 2023.

Israel's stated position is that it will not.

Silly me, I'd probably give that a shot in any event. I expect it might help, including with all us knuckle draggers around the world who at the moment think this is kinda their fault.

"International views of Israel and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu are much more negative than positive, according to a Pew Research Center survey of 24 countries conducted this spring."

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/06/03/most-people-across-24-surveyed-countries-have-negative-views-of-israel-and-netanyahu/
Robert Wilson
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Sam Lowry said:

Robert Wilson said:

Sam Lowry said:

Robert Wilson said:

Porteroso said:

Robert Wilson said:

Porteroso said:

canoso said:

Gazans are things in Hamas' game. Expendable objects. Hamas is the entity starving Gazans.

So who should feed them? Or should nobody? Certainly nobody expects Hamas to.

Maybe, gasp, their own ******* selves. And if that's not working out, well, they should probably overthrow the government that they put in place. Seems like they may have chosen poorly.

LMAO! Israel bombs their homes to the ground, destroys nearly every hospital, and of course I support their war against Hamas! But Israel targeted their infrastructure, and now you want them to use that bombed infrastructure to "feed themselves." What a truly dumbass take.

Mmm hmm. Why did that infrastructure get destroyed?

Might expedite things if they'd surrender and release the hostages they've been holding since October of 2023.

Israel's stated position is that it will not.

Silly me, I'd probably give that a shot in any event. I expect it might help, including with all us knuckle draggers around the world who at the moment think this is kinda their fault.

"International views of Israel and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu are much more negative than positive, according to a Pew Research Center survey of 24 countries conducted this spring."

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/06/03/most-people-across-24-surveyed-countries-have-negative-views-of-israel-and-netanyahu/

That's great. Imagine what kind of statistics people could summon if they surrendered and returned the hostages that they took almost 2 years ago.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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Porteroso said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Porteroso said:

canoso said:

Gazans are things in Hamas' game. Expendable objects. Hamas is the entity starving Gazans.

So who should feed them? Or should nobody? Certainly nobody expects Hamas to.

Hamas. Their elected government.

You can't be that stupid.

But Hamas was elected by Gazans after Israel withdrew troops and settlers.. Once in control of the government Hamas eliminated Fatah from the picture. It is hard to get around the fact that Hamas still controls most of Gaza.
Sam Lowry
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Robert Wilson said:

Sam Lowry said:

Robert Wilson said:

Sam Lowry said:

Robert Wilson said:

Porteroso said:

Robert Wilson said:

Porteroso said:

canoso said:

Gazans are things in Hamas' game. Expendable objects. Hamas is the entity starving Gazans.

So who should feed them? Or should nobody? Certainly nobody expects Hamas to.

Maybe, gasp, their own ******* selves. And if that's not working out, well, they should probably overthrow the government that they put in place. Seems like they may have chosen poorly.

LMAO! Israel bombs their homes to the ground, destroys nearly every hospital, and of course I support their war against Hamas! But Israel targeted their infrastructure, and now you want them to use that bombed infrastructure to "feed themselves." What a truly dumbass take.

Mmm hmm. Why did that infrastructure get destroyed?

Might expedite things if they'd surrender and release the hostages they've been holding since October of 2023.

Israel's stated position is that it will not.

Silly me, I'd probably give that a shot in any event. I expect it might help, including with all us knuckle draggers around the world who at the moment think this is kinda their fault.

"International views of Israel and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu are much more negative than positive, according to a Pew Research Center survey of 24 countries conducted this spring."

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/06/03/most-people-across-24-surveyed-countries-have-negative-views-of-israel-and-netanyahu/

That's great. Imagine what kind of statistics people could summon if they surrendered and returned the hostages that they took almost 2 years ago.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

To quote the UN report on the October 7 attacks: "The unlawfulness of the Israeli occupation does not justify unlawful action by Palestinians in resistance. Equally, unlawful action by Palestinians opposing the occupation does not justify unlawful action by Israel."

This is a very simple concept understood by civilized people around the world. It's the knuckle-draggers on both sides who reject it. Today you're untroubled because your knuckle-draggers are running rampant. Next time the tables turn, you'll be first to lament the violation of human rights.

Way too many posters here have the same mindset as Hamas. I'm not among them.
Robert Wilson
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Sam Lowry said:

Robert Wilson said:

Sam Lowry said:

Robert Wilson said:

Sam Lowry said:

Robert Wilson said:

Porteroso said:

Robert Wilson said:

Porteroso said:

canoso said:

Gazans are things in Hamas' game. Expendable objects. Hamas is the entity starving Gazans.

So who should feed them? Or should nobody? Certainly nobody expects Hamas to.

Maybe, gasp, their own ******* selves. And if that's not working out, well, they should probably overthrow the government that they put in place. Seems like they may have chosen poorly.

LMAO! Israel bombs their homes to the ground, destroys nearly every hospital, and of course I support their war against Hamas! But Israel targeted their infrastructure, and now you want them to use that bombed infrastructure to "feed themselves." What a truly dumbass take.

Mmm hmm. Why did that infrastructure get destroyed?

Might expedite things if they'd surrender and release the hostages they've been holding since October of 2023.

Israel's stated position is that it will not.

Silly me, I'd probably give that a shot in any event. I expect it might help, including with all us knuckle draggers around the world who at the moment think this is kinda their fault.

"International views of Israel and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu are much more negative than positive, according to a Pew Research Center survey of 24 countries conducted this spring."

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/06/03/most-people-across-24-surveyed-countries-have-negative-views-of-israel-and-netanyahu/

That's great. Imagine what kind of statistics people could summon if they surrendered and returned the hostages that they took almost 2 years ago.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

To quote the UN report on the October 7 attacks: "The unlawfulness of the Israeli occupation does not justify unlawful action by Palestinians in resistance. Equally, unlawful action by Palestinians opposing the occupation does not justify unlawful action by Israel."

This is a very simple concept understood by civilized people around the world. It's the knuckle-draggers on both sides who reject it. Today you're untroubled because your knuckle-draggers are running rampant. Next time the tables turn, you'll be first to lament the violation of human rights.

Way too many posters here have the same mindset as Hamas, but I'm not one of them.

Those are a bunch of great platitudes. If only you could be appointed czar for kindness and the flourishing of all peoples in the middle east I'm sure you would be a wonderful and fair administrator. I do have empathy for those folks, but it does not commandeer my entire frontal lobe. Nor would it if the tables were turned.
Sam Lowry
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Robert Wilson said:

Sam Lowry said:

Robert Wilson said:

Sam Lowry said:

Robert Wilson said:

Sam Lowry said:

Robert Wilson said:

Porteroso said:

Robert Wilson said:

Porteroso said:

canoso said:

Gazans are things in Hamas' game. Expendable objects. Hamas is the entity starving Gazans.

So who should feed them? Or should nobody? Certainly nobody expects Hamas to.

Maybe, gasp, their own ******* selves. And if that's not working out, well, they should probably overthrow the government that they put in place. Seems like they may have chosen poorly.

LMAO! Israel bombs their homes to the ground, destroys nearly every hospital, and of course I support their war against Hamas! But Israel targeted their infrastructure, and now you want them to use that bombed infrastructure to "feed themselves." What a truly dumbass take.

Mmm hmm. Why did that infrastructure get destroyed?

Might expedite things if they'd surrender and release the hostages they've been holding since October of 2023.

Israel's stated position is that it will not.

Silly me, I'd probably give that a shot in any event. I expect it might help, including with all us knuckle draggers around the world who at the moment think this is kinda their fault.

"International views of Israel and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu are much more negative than positive, according to a Pew Research Center survey of 24 countries conducted this spring."

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/06/03/most-people-across-24-surveyed-countries-have-negative-views-of-israel-and-netanyahu/

That's great. Imagine what kind of statistics people could summon if they surrendered and returned the hostages that they took almost 2 years ago.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

To quote the UN report on the October 7 attacks: "The unlawfulness of the Israeli occupation does not justify unlawful action by Palestinians in resistance. Equally, unlawful action by Palestinians opposing the occupation does not justify unlawful action by Israel."

This is a very simple concept understood by civilized people around the world. It's the knuckle-draggers on both sides who reject it. Today you're untroubled because your knuckle-draggers are running rampant. Next time the tables turn, you'll be first to lament the violation of human rights.

Way too many posters here have the same mindset as Hamas, but I'm not one of them.

Those are a bunch of great platitudes. If only you could be appointed czar for kindness and the flourishing of all peoples in the middle east I'm sure you would be a wonderful and fair administrator. I do have empathy for those folks, but it does not commandeer my entire frontal lobe. Nor would it if the tables were turned.

If "play stupid games, we'll torture your children" is empathy, I would hate to see you in an apathetic mood. But credit where credit is due...after seven pages you're the first to even say the word.
 
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