It may also be that the left wants to just create another narrative about orange man bad to hurt is 2024 bid. Since we're engaging in conjecture and everythingOsodecentx said:Trump's legal team was given a copy of the warrant. It has declined to release it, one source told NBC News's Vaughn Hillyard, because "the burden of transparency rests with the [Justice Department] to lay out its reasoning." Since the warrant also includes an articulation of the potential legal violations to which the search relates, it may also be the case that Trump's team wants to avoid revealing the scope of the legal threat Trump faces.Oldbear83 said:
"Trump isn't releasing what he was served with."
His lawyers are saying they were not given a copy of the warrant. Said the agents flashed a paper then shoved in.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/08/10/trump-fbi-search/
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Watch the video. If you continue to say Capitol police let rioters in, you're dishonest. 3 hours of videoRawhide said:Like I said, nothing but dishonesty from you. Can't admit when you're wrongSam Lowry said:Fallacy of equivocation. They may have "let" the mob in, but they didn't let the mob in.Rawhide said:The only one being dishonest here samuel, is you. Even when presented with video evidence of cops letting people into the capitol, you still tried to argue against. The same thing with the fact that Covid has a very very very high survival rate amone young peopleSam Lowry said:You're doing nothing but flaunting your own dishonesty when you repeat the "red carpet" talking point over and over. Even your side doesn't believe its own rhetoric.Rawhide said:Kind of like how you never accepted the fact that cops let people into the Capitol building or children in school don't need masks because the Covid survival rate is so damn high for these children... survival higher than the flu, kind of like that?Sam Lowry said:
Trump's enemies tried to hold him responsible for J6 via impeachment, but his allies weren't having it. Y'all won't accept the obvious until the feds connect every little dot. So they're connecting the dots.
The Justice Department this week released a three-hour video of a battle between rioters and the police at the US Capitol Building on January 6 where rioters brandished weapons, officers were viciously beaten, and a member of the mob died on Capitol steps.
The assault on the Lower West Terrace was one of the most violent confrontations between Capitol Police and the crowd. Officers held the line until the building was cleared without letting rioters inside. Some officers have since said they did not know the Capitol had already been breached in other areas.
The video, taken from a Capitol security camera, does not have sound. It starts as officers retreat, helping each other as they stumble inside and washing their eyes out with water from chemical spray. Rioters crowd in behind them, coordinate efforts to attack and push through in infamous moments that have haunted the public, and officers, ever since.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/24/politics/january-6-video-capitol-hill-riot/index.html
Rawhide said:It may also be that the left wants to just create another narrative about orange man bad to hurt is 2024 bid. Since we're engaging in conjecture and everythingOsodecentx said:Trump's legal team was given a copy of the warrant. It has declined to release it, one source told NBC News's Vaughn Hillyard, because "the burden of transparency rests with the [Justice Department] to lay out its reasoning." Since the warrant also includes an articulation of the potential legal violations to which the search relates, it may also be the case that Trump's team wants to avoid revealing the scope of the legal threat Trump faces.Oldbear83 said:
"Trump isn't releasing what he was served with."
His lawyers are saying they were not given a copy of the warrant. Said the agents flashed a paper then shoved in.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/08/10/trump-fbi-search/
Why should it be up to the citizen to publish the reasoning for a DOJ warrant? It is up to the Govt to defend search and seizure. Things are backwards! He is innocent until proven guilty, not speculated guilty. Burden is on Govt. Once again the Marshal Tito approach to jurisprudence...
No, the Left wants the weak minded to nominate Trump for the Republican nomination for president. Here's a conspiracy theory for you; Democrats are manipulating youRawhide said:It may also be that the left wants to just create another narrative about orange man bad to hurt is 2024 bid. Since we're engaging in conjecture and everythingOsodecentx said:Trump's legal team was given a copy of the warrant. It has declined to release it, one source told NBC News's Vaughn Hillyard, because "the burden of transparency rests with the [Justice Department] to lay out its reasoning." Since the warrant also includes an articulation of the potential legal violations to which the search relates, it may also be the case that Trump's team wants to avoid revealing the scope of the legal threat Trump faces.Oldbear83 said:
"Trump isn't releasing what he was served with."
His lawyers are saying they were not given a copy of the warrant. Said the agents flashed a paper then shoved in.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/08/10/trump-fbi-search/
BTW, it's working
If the DOJ publishes it, you'll complain that Dear Leader is being smeared. If they don't release it, you'll complain that Dear Leader is being smeared.RMF5630 said:Rawhide said:It may also be that the left wants to just create another narrative about orange man bad to hurt is 2024 bid. Since we're engaging in conjecture and everythingOsodecentx said:Trump's legal team was given a copy of the warrant. It has declined to release it, one source told NBC News's Vaughn Hillyard, because "the burden of transparency rests with the [Justice Department] to lay out its reasoning." Since the warrant also includes an articulation of the potential legal violations to which the search relates, it may also be the case that Trump's team wants to avoid revealing the scope of the legal threat Trump faces.Oldbear83 said:
"Trump isn't releasing what he was served with."
His lawyers are saying they were not given a copy of the warrant. Said the agents flashed a paper then shoved in.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/08/10/trump-fbi-search/
Why should it be up to the citizen to publish the reasoning for a DOJ warrant? It is up to the Govt to defend search and seizure. Things are backwards! He is innocent until proven guilty, not speculated guilty. Burden is on Govt. Once again the Marshal Tito approach to jurisprudence...
Either way, you'll vote for the guy
WaPo sides with Biden and Sam.Osodecentx said:Trump's legal team was given a copy of the warrant. It has declined to release it, one source told NBC News's Vaughn Hillyard, because "the burden of transparency rests with the [Justice Department] to lay out its reasoning." Since the warrant also includes an articulation of the potential legal violations to which the search relates, it may also be the case that Trump's team wants to avoid revealing the scope of the legal threat Trump faces.Oldbear83 said:
"Trump isn't releasing what he was served with."
His lawyers are saying they were not given a copy of the warrant. Said the agents flashed a paper then shoved in.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/08/10/trump-fbi-search/
I notice no name for their "source".
Means jack
Interesting though, that you are cool with abusing rights when the target is someone you hate.
Flexible Ethics you have there.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Never occurred to you that as President, Trump had the authority to declassify documents?LateSteak69 said:Donald Trump signed a law that might’ve turned himself into a felon. Brilliant. pic.twitter.com/NgsbHSHSpK
— Jason Selvig (@jasonselvig) August 10, 2022
And no, Hillary never had that power, so another swing and miss from the roadkill poster.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
they keep posting and thinking we are going to believe their evil biased always wrong sources. russia hoax? where's hunter?
we should ALL put them on ignore and take away their power
we should ALL put them on ignore and take away their power
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Post of the MonthRedbrickbear said:For the 1,000th time.Harrison Bergeron said:It's funny how the Defund the Police crowd suddenly is praising nighttime raids by "jack-booted thugs." Irony abounds!Johnny Bear said:RMF5630 said:This is about making Trump look bad and hurting his election chances.HuMcK said:
"It was letters between him and Kim and a map of Hurricane Dorian that he drew on."
Come on, y'all can't honestly believe that's what this is about. They didn't execute an unannounced search warrant on an ex President all for some letters they could have just subpoenaed, and if that was it he wouldn't have surrogates out there talking up "planted evidence".
Otherwise, it would have occurred last year in 2021. This is all happening because it is an election year.
It's all a choreographed political show solely designed to make Trump look like he's no better than some drug kingpin or some Mafia Don that the FBI is on a crusade to bring down. The same goes for associates or significant supporters (General Flynn, Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, etc. all say hello). It's also moreover a message from the deep state that no matter who you are, if you threaten our power and our gravy train you are going down and you are going down hard. As Ron Desantis tweeted - Banana Republic.
I do find it highly ironic that the older lefties that were passionately protesting against (sometimes violently) these kinds of corrupt establishment practices in the late 60's and the early 70's are the same people that are now enthusiastically laughing at and cheering on this kind of crap today.
Liberals do not care about the force of the State being used against people. They just want to control that power and see it used against their ideological enemies.
It's the classic Leninist "who,whom?"
They dislike State power if they think its being used against Leftists or Liberals, or black americans (who they view as ideological allies to the liberals/Leftists). But turn around and like that State power if they feel its being used against rednecks in Alabama.
So we will add this as another exception to the general rule - liberals don't want the state to intrude on the right to kill babies.J.B.Katz said:Last I checked, liberals cared very much about states forcing women and girls to have babies, even if they are victims of rape and incest. And that's certainly the force of the state being used against women and children.Redbrickbear said:For the 1,000th time.Harrison Bergeron said:It's funny how the Defund the Police crowd suddenly is praising nighttime raids by "jack-booted thugs." Irony abounds!Johnny Bear said:RMF5630 said:This is about making Trump look bad and hurting his election chances.HuMcK said:
"It was letters between him and Kim and a map of Hurricane Dorian that he drew on."
Come on, y'all can't honestly believe that's what this is about. They didn't execute an unannounced search warrant on an ex President all for some letters they could have just subpoenaed, and if that was it he wouldn't have surrogates out there talking up "planted evidence".
Otherwise, it would have occurred last year in 2021. This is all happening because it is an election year.
It's all a choreographed political show solely designed to make Trump look like he's no better than some drug kingpin or some Mafia Don that the FBI is on a crusade to bring down. The same goes for associates or significant supporters (General Flynn, Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, etc. all say hello). It's also moreover a message from the deep state that no matter who you are, if you threaten our power and our gravy train you are going down and you are going down hard. As Ron Desantis tweeted - Banana Republic.
I do find it highly ironic that the older lefties that were passionately protesting against (sometimes violently) these kinds of corrupt establishment practices in the late 60's and the early 70's are the same people that are now enthusiastically laughing at and cheering on this kind of crap today.
Liberals do not care about the force of the State being used against people. They just want to control that power and see it used against their ideological enemies.
It's the classic Leninist "who,whom?"
They dislike State power if they think its being used against Leftists or Liberals, or black americans (who they view as ideological allies to the liberals/Leftists). But turn around and like that State power if they feel its being used against rednecks in Alabama.
I saw my facebook lit up in the summer of 2020 with support for the riots and complaints whenever the police did something against them. But I saw the same liberals wishing the police would open fire and literally kill the Jan. 6th protestors.
Some Republicans care about that, too. Many of them voted against empowering state governments to intrude into people's personal lives in Kansas, just last week.
To give you an idea of how far we've come, here's Kevin McCarthy right after Trump sicced a mob of disorganized goons on the Capitol to try to disrupt a peaceful transfer of power:
"When they started breaking into my office, myself and the staff got removed from the office. In doing so, I made a phone call to the president telling him what was going on, asking him to tell these people to stop, to make a video and go out. I was very intense and very loud about it. We cannot just sweep this under the rug. We need to know why it happened, who did it, and people need to be held accountable for it. And I'm committed to making sure that happens."
Did he declassify the documents he illegally took?Oldbear83 said:Never occurred to you that as President, Trump had the authority to declassify documents?LateSteak69 said:Donald Trump signed a law that might’ve turned himself into a felon. Brilliant. pic.twitter.com/NgsbHSHSpK
— Jason Selvig (@jasonselvig) August 10, 2022
And no, Hillary never had that power, so another swing and miss from the roadkill poster.
They didn't say they weren't given a copy of the warrant. They said they weren't given a copy right away.Oldbear83 said:WaPo sides with Biden and Sam.Osodecentx said:Trump's legal team was given a copy of the warrant. It has declined to release it, one source told NBC News's Vaughn Hillyard, because "the burden of transparency rests with the [Justice Department] to lay out its reasoning." Since the warrant also includes an articulation of the potential legal violations to which the search relates, it may also be the case that Trump's team wants to avoid revealing the scope of the legal threat Trump faces.Oldbear83 said:
"Trump isn't releasing what he was served with."
His lawyers are saying they were not given a copy of the warrant. Said the agents flashed a paper then shoved in.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/08/10/trump-fbi-search/
I notice no name for their "source".
Means jack
Interesting though, that you are cool with abusing rights when the target is someone you hate.
Flexible Ethics you have there.
If Trump declassified the documents, then he committed no crime no manner how you spin it, Oso.Osodecentx said:Did he declassify the documents he illegally took?Oldbear83 said:Never occurred to you that as President, Trump had the authority to declassify documents?LateSteak69 said:Donald Trump signed a law that might’ve turned himself into a felon. Brilliant. pic.twitter.com/NgsbHSHSpK
— Jason Selvig (@jasonselvig) August 10, 2022
And no, Hillary never had that power, so another swing and miss from the roadkill poster.
And in case you imagine those documents were stamped 'CLASSIFIED' like you see in movies and TV, that's not how this works.
But have you considered that because a Special Master was not present, regardless of whether or not Trump declassified the documents, the FBI agents who handled those documents were not cleared to touch them, let alone read them, and as such, it is entirely possible that the only crimes committed under statute were by FBI agents who exceeded their clearance in taking those documents?
This warrant execution was bungled in ways only a Biden could manage.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
the named source said they were shown, said did not get a copy..Oldbear83 said:WaPo sides with Biden and Sam.Osodecentx said:Trump's legal team was given a copy of the warrant. It has declined to release it, one source told NBC News's Vaughn Hillyard, because "the burden of transparency rests with the [Justice Department] to lay out its reasoning." Since the warrant also includes an articulation of the potential legal violations to which the search relates, it may also be the case that Trump's team wants to avoid revealing the scope of the legal threat Trump faces.Oldbear83 said:
"Trump isn't releasing what he was served with."
His lawyers are saying they were not given a copy of the warrant. Said the agents flashed a paper then shoved in.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/08/10/trump-fbi-search/
I notice no name for their "source".
Means jack
Interesting though, that you are cool with abusing rights when the target is someone you hate.
Flexible Ethics you have there.
Yay for unnamed sources
“The Internet is just a world passing around notes in a classroom.”
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DebunkedSam Lowry said:They didn't say they weren't given a copy of the warrant. They said they weren't given a copy right away.Oldbear83 said:WaPo sides with Biden and Sam.Osodecentx said:Trump's legal team was given a copy of the warrant. It has declined to release it, one source told NBC News's Vaughn Hillyard, because "the burden of transparency rests with the [Justice Department] to lay out its reasoning." Since the warrant also includes an articulation of the potential legal violations to which the search relates, it may also be the case that Trump's team wants to avoid revealing the scope of the legal threat Trump faces.Oldbear83 said:
"Trump isn't releasing what he was served with."
His lawyers are saying they were not given a copy of the warrant. Said the agents flashed a paper then shoved in.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/08/10/trump-fbi-search/
I notice no name for their "source".
Means jack
Interesting though, that you are cool with abusing rights when the target is someone you hate.
Flexible Ethics you have there.
"The most important thing to remember about search warrants is that police officers must let you read and scrutinize a search warrant prior to or during a search"
https://criminaldefenselawfirmtampa.com/fl-search-warrants/
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
The PRA applies to all documentary material, classified or not.Oldbear83 said:If Trump declassified the documents, then he committed no crime no manner how you spin it, Oso.Osodecentx said:Did he declassify the documents he illegally took?Oldbear83 said:Never occurred to you that as President, Trump had the authority to declassify documents?LateSteak69 said:Donald Trump signed a law that might’ve turned himself into a felon. Brilliant. pic.twitter.com/NgsbHSHSpK
— Jason Selvig (@jasonselvig) August 10, 2022
And no, Hillary never had that power, so another swing and miss from the roadkill poster.
Anything to 'get Trump', I see.Sam Lowry said:The PRA applies to all documentary material, classified or not.Oldbear83 said:If Trump declassified the documents, then he committed no crime no manner how you spin it, Oso.Osodecentx said:Did he declassify the documents he illegally took?Oldbear83 said:Never occurred to you that as President, Trump had the authority to declassify documents?LateSteak69 said:Donald Trump signed a law that might’ve turned himself into a felon. Brilliant. pic.twitter.com/NgsbHSHSpK
— Jason Selvig (@jasonselvig) August 10, 2022
And no, Hillary never had that power, so another swing and miss from the roadkill poster.
This will not end the way you think it will, Sam.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
They did get to read it. They just didn't get a copy right away.Oldbear83 said:DebunkedSam Lowry said:They didn't say they weren't given a copy of the warrant. They said they weren't given a copy right away.Oldbear83 said:WaPo sides with Biden and Sam.Osodecentx said:Trump's legal team was given a copy of the warrant. It has declined to release it, one source told NBC News's Vaughn Hillyard, because "the burden of transparency rests with the [Justice Department] to lay out its reasoning." Since the warrant also includes an articulation of the potential legal violations to which the search relates, it may also be the case that Trump's team wants to avoid revealing the scope of the legal threat Trump faces.Oldbear83 said:
"Trump isn't releasing what he was served with."
His lawyers are saying they were not given a copy of the warrant. Said the agents flashed a paper then shoved in.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/08/10/trump-fbi-search/
I notice no name for their "source".
Means jack
Interesting though, that you are cool with abusing rights when the target is someone you hate.
Flexible Ethics you have there.
"The most important thing to remember about search warrants is that police officers must let you read and scrutinize a search warrant prior to or during a search"
https://criminaldefenselawfirmtampa.com/fl-search-warrants/
A real lawyer would understand that "right away" more than kind of matters.Sam Lowry said:They did get to read it. They just didn't get a copy right away.Oldbear83 said:DebunkedSam Lowry said:They didn't say they weren't given a copy of the warrant. They said they weren't given a copy right away.Oldbear83 said:WaPo sides with Biden and Sam.Osodecentx said:Trump's legal team was given a copy of the warrant. It has declined to release it, one source told NBC News's Vaughn Hillyard, because "the burden of transparency rests with the [Justice Department] to lay out its reasoning." Since the warrant also includes an articulation of the potential legal violations to which the search relates, it may also be the case that Trump's team wants to avoid revealing the scope of the legal threat Trump faces.Oldbear83 said:
"Trump isn't releasing what he was served with."
His lawyers are saying they were not given a copy of the warrant. Said the agents flashed a paper then shoved in.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/08/10/trump-fbi-search/
I notice no name for their "source".
Means jack
Interesting though, that you are cool with abusing rights when the target is someone you hate.
Flexible Ethics you have there.
"The most important thing to remember about search warrants is that police officers must let you read and scrutinize a search warrant prior to or during a search"
https://criminaldefenselawfirmtampa.com/fl-search-warrants/
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
A Mole? I'm absolutely shocked if true. Shocked
https://www.thedailybeast.com/mole-a-lago-insider-led-fbi-to-trumps-document-stash-at-mar-a-lago-report-says
https://www.thedailybeast.com/mole-a-lago-insider-led-fbi-to-trumps-document-stash-at-mar-a-lago-report-says
Per @warkin, the FBI raid of Mar-a-Lago was based largely on info from a confidential informant who was able to identify what classified docs Trump was hiding and where they were located.
— Justin Baragona (@justinbaragona) August 10, 2022
So it appears, per this reporting, that Team Trump has a mole!https://t.co/d0Ut2KaVi7
I don't know how it will end, but it starts with the law as written, not as you might wish it to be. It dates back to 1978, so dismissing it as TDS would be a big stretch even for you.Oldbear83 said:Anything to 'get Trump', I see.Sam Lowry said:The PRA applies to all documentary material, classified or not.Oldbear83 said:If Trump declassified the documents, then he committed no crime no manner how you spin it, Oso.Osodecentx said:Did he declassify the documents he illegally took?Oldbear83 said:Never occurred to you that as President, Trump had the authority to declassify documents?LateSteak69 said:Donald Trump signed a law that might’ve turned himself into a felon. Brilliant. pic.twitter.com/NgsbHSHSpK
— Jason Selvig (@jasonselvig) August 10, 2022
And no, Hillary never had that power, so another swing and miss from the roadkill poster.
This will not end the way you think it will, Sam.
That's why I pointed it out. It's the difference between his lawyer's (presumably) true statement and your false one.Oldbear83 said:A real lawyer would understand that "right away" more than kind of matters.Sam Lowry said:They did get to read it. They just didn't get a copy right away.Oldbear83 said:DebunkedSam Lowry said:They didn't say they weren't given a copy of the warrant. They said they weren't given a copy right away.Oldbear83 said:WaPo sides with Biden and Sam.Osodecentx said:Trump's legal team was given a copy of the warrant. It has declined to release it, one source told NBC News's Vaughn Hillyard, because "the burden of transparency rests with the [Justice Department] to lay out its reasoning." Since the warrant also includes an articulation of the potential legal violations to which the search relates, it may also be the case that Trump's team wants to avoid revealing the scope of the legal threat Trump faces.Oldbear83 said:
"Trump isn't releasing what he was served with."
His lawyers are saying they were not given a copy of the warrant. Said the agents flashed a paper then shoved in.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/08/10/trump-fbi-search/
I notice no name for their "source".
Means jack
Interesting though, that you are cool with abusing rights when the target is someone you hate.
Flexible Ethics you have there.
"The most important thing to remember about search warrants is that police officers must let you read and scrutinize a search warrant prior to or during a search"
https://criminaldefenselawfirmtampa.com/fl-search-warrants/
The propaganda campaign to confuse the issues with the public has begun .
All that matters is for the first time in US history the house of a former president has been raided by his political enemies .
An incredibly dangerous and destructive act .
And it foreshadows even far worse oppression in the immediate future for anyone who gets in the way .
All that matters is for the first time in US history the house of a former president has been raided by his political enemies .
An incredibly dangerous and destructive act .
And it foreshadows even far worse oppression in the immediate future for anyone who gets in the way .
So the safe wasn't empty after all.riflebear said:
A Mole? I'm absolutely shocked if true. Shocked
https://www.thedailybeast.com/mole-a-lago-insider-led-fbi-to-trumps-document-stash-at-mar-a-lago-report-saysPer @warkin, the FBI raid of Mar-a-Lago was based largely on info from a confidential informant who was able to identify what classified docs Trump was hiding and where they were located.
— Justin Baragona (@justinbaragona) August 10, 2022
So it appears, per this reporting, that Team Trump has a mole!https://t.co/d0Ut2KaVi7
Sam Lowry said:I don't know how it will end, but it starts with the law as written, not as you might wish it to be. It dates back to 1978, so dismissing it as TDS would be a big stretch even for you.Oldbear83 said:Anything to 'get Trump', I see.Sam Lowry said:The PRA applies to all documentary material, classified or not.Oldbear83 said:If Trump declassified the documents, then he committed no crime no manner how you spin it, Oso.Osodecentx said:Did he declassify the documents he illegally took?Oldbear83 said:Never occurred to you that as President, Trump had the authority to declassify documents?LateSteak69 said:Donald Trump signed a law that might’ve turned himself into a felon. Brilliant. pic.twitter.com/NgsbHSHSpK
— Jason Selvig (@jasonselvig) August 10, 2022
And no, Hillary never had that power, so another swing and miss from the roadkill poster.
This will not end the way you think it will, Sam.
Oh please tell us about all of the server laws that Hillary broke and their origins. But you don't care about that because you are a political hack who is as biased as they can be and is typically wrong about everything.
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He said that cops didn't let people in. I provided a video that in fact show cops let people in.Osodecentx said:Watch the video. If you continue to say Capitol police let rioters in, you're dishonest. 3 hours of videoRawhide said:Like I said, nothing but dishonesty from you. Can't admit when you're wrongSam Lowry said:Fallacy of equivocation. They may have "let" the mob in, but they didn't let the mob in.Rawhide said:The only one being dishonest here samuel, is you. Even when presented with video evidence of cops letting people into the capitol, you still tried to argue against. The same thing with the fact that Covid has a very very very high survival rate amone young peopleSam Lowry said:You're doing nothing but flaunting your own dishonesty when you repeat the "red carpet" talking point over and over. Even your side doesn't believe its own rhetoric.Rawhide said:Kind of like how you never accepted the fact that cops let people into the Capitol building or children in school don't need masks because the Covid survival rate is so damn high for these children... survival higher than the flu, kind of like that?Sam Lowry said:
Trump's enemies tried to hold him responsible for J6 via impeachment, but his allies weren't having it. Y'all won't accept the obvious until the feds connect every little dot. So they're connecting the dots.
The Justice Department this week released a three-hour video of a battle between rioters and the police at the US Capitol Building on January 6 where rioters brandished weapons, officers were viciously beaten, and a member of the mob died on Capitol steps.
The assault on the Lower West Terrace was one of the most violent confrontations between Capitol Police and the crowd. Officers held the line until the building was cleared without letting rioters inside. Some officers have since said they did not know the Capitol had already been breached in other areas.
The video, taken from a Capitol security camera, does not have sound. It starts as officers retreat, helping each other as they stumble inside and washing their eyes out with water from chemical spray. Rioters crowd in behind them, coordinate efforts to attack and push through in infamous moments that have haunted the public, and officers, ever since.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/24/politics/january-6-video-capitol-hill-riot/index.html
Once again OSO, read my post carefully. I said cops let people in. I DID NOT say cops let everyone in.
Samuel back whenever he posted his BS, said cops didn't let people in. He was just wrong or he was lying. I showed evidence to the contrary, and today still tries to argue against it. He's not capable of admitting when he's wrong. He's a rube.
Try again dumbass, I'll be voting for Ron DeSantis in the primary; I've said as much more than once.Osodecentx said:No, the Left wants the weak minded to nominate Trump for the Republican nomination for president. Here's a conspiracy theory for you; Democrats are manipulating youRawhide said:It may also be that the left wants to just create another narrative about orange man bad to hurt is 2024 bid. Since we're engaging in conjecture and everythingOsodecentx said:Trump's legal team was given a copy of the warrant. It has declined to release it, one source told NBC News's Vaughn Hillyard, because "the burden of transparency rests with the [Justice Department] to lay out its reasoning." Since the warrant also includes an articulation of the potential legal violations to which the search relates, it may also be the case that Trump's team wants to avoid revealing the scope of the legal threat Trump faces.Oldbear83 said:
"Trump isn't releasing what he was served with."
His lawyers are saying they were not given a copy of the warrant. Said the agents flashed a paper then shoved in.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/08/10/trump-fbi-search/
BTW, it's working
The lefty Trump haters have you so brainwashed and triggered over big bad Don, you're unable to comprehend posts in a consistent manner. You don't know if you should scratch your watch or wind your ass
very true.. also has no enforcement penaltySam Lowry said:The PRA applies to all documentary material, classified or not.Oldbear83 said:If Trump declassified the documents, then he committed no crime no manner how you spin it, Oso.Osodecentx said:Did he declassify the documents he illegally took?Oldbear83 said:Never occurred to you that as President, Trump had the authority to declassify documents?LateSteak69 said:Donald Trump signed a law that might’ve turned himself into a felon. Brilliant. pic.twitter.com/NgsbHSHSpK
— Jason Selvig (@jasonselvig) August 10, 2022
And no, Hillary never had that power, so another swing and miss from the roadkill poster.
Its super fun to read about the way the NARA and DOJ handled Obama and Hillary vs this one..
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J.B.Katz said:Last I checked, liberals cared very much about states forcing women and girls to have babies, even if they are victims of rape and incest. And that's certainly the force of the state being used against women and children.Redbrickbear said:For the 1,000th time.Harrison Bergeron said:It's funny how the Defund the Police crowd suddenly is praising nighttime raids by "jack-booted thugs." Irony abounds!Johnny Bear said:RMF5630 said:This is about making Trump look bad and hurting his election chances.HuMcK said:
"It was letters between him and Kim and a map of Hurricane Dorian that he drew on."
Come on, y'all can't honestly believe that's what this is about. They didn't execute an unannounced search warrant on an ex President all for some letters they could have just subpoenaed, and if that was it he wouldn't have surrogates out there talking up "planted evidence".
Otherwise, it would have occurred last year in 2021. This is all happening because it is an election year.
It's all a choreographed political show solely designed to make Trump look like he's no better than some drug kingpin or some Mafia Don that the FBI is on a crusade to bring down. The same goes for associates or significant supporters (General Flynn, Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, etc. all say hello). It's also moreover a message from the deep state that no matter who you are, if you threaten our power and our gravy train you are going down and you are going down hard. As Ron Desantis tweeted - Banana Republic.
I do find it highly ironic that the older lefties that were passionately protesting against (sometimes violently) these kinds of corrupt establishment practices in the late 60's and the early 70's are the same people that are now enthusiastically laughing at and cheering on this kind of crap today.
Liberals do not care about the force of the State being used against people. They just want to control that power and see it used against their ideological enemies.
It's the classic Leninist "who,whom?"
They dislike State power if they think its being used against Leftists or Liberals, or black americans (who they view as ideological allies to the liberals/Leftists). But turn around and like that State power if they feel its being used against rednecks in Alabama.
I saw my facebook lit up in the summer of 2020 with support for the riots and complaints whenever the police did something against them. But I saw the same liberals wishing the police would open fire and literally kill the Jan. 6th protestors.
Some Republicans care about that, too. Many of them voted against empowering state governments to intrude into people's personal lives in Kansas, just last week.
To give you an idea of how far we've come, here's Kevin McCarthy right after Trump sicced a mob of disorganized goons on the Capitol to try to disrupt a peaceful transfer of power:
"When they started breaking into my office, myself and the staff got removed from the office. In doing so, I made a phone call to the president telling him what was going on, asking him to tell these people to stop, to make a video and go out. I was very intense and very loud about it. We cannot just sweep this under the rug. We need to know why it happened, who did it, and people need to be held accountable for it. And I'm committed to making sure that happens."
You never miss an opportunity to shill for baby murder.
Rawhide said:He said that cops didn't let people in. I provided a video that in fact show cops let people in.Osodecentx said:Watch the video. If you continue to say Capitol police let rioters in, you're dishonest. 3 hours of videoRawhide said:Like I said, nothing but dishonesty from you. Can't admit when you're wrongSam Lowry said:Fallacy of equivocation. They may have "let" the mob in, but they didn't let the mob in.Rawhide said:The only one being dishonest here samuel, is you. Even when presented with video evidence of cops letting people into the capitol, you still tried to argue against. The same thing with the fact that Covid has a very very very high survival rate amone young peopleSam Lowry said:You're doing nothing but flaunting your own dishonesty when you repeat the "red carpet" talking point over and over. Even your side doesn't believe its own rhetoric.Rawhide said:Kind of like how you never accepted the fact that cops let people into the Capitol building or children in school don't need masks because the Covid survival rate is so damn high for these children... survival higher than the flu, kind of like that?Sam Lowry said:
Trump's enemies tried to hold him responsible for J6 via impeachment, but his allies weren't having it. Y'all won't accept the obvious until the feds connect every little dot. So they're connecting the dots.
The Justice Department this week released a three-hour video of a battle between rioters and the police at the US Capitol Building on January 6 where rioters brandished weapons, officers were viciously beaten, and a member of the mob died on Capitol steps.
The assault on the Lower West Terrace was one of the most violent confrontations between Capitol Police and the crowd. Officers held the line until the building was cleared without letting rioters inside. Some officers have since said they did not know the Capitol had already been breached in other areas.
The video, taken from a Capitol security camera, does not have sound. It starts as officers retreat, helping each other as they stumble inside and washing their eyes out with water from chemical spray. Rioters crowd in behind them, coordinate efforts to attack and push through in infamous moments that have haunted the public, and officers, ever since.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/24/politics/january-6-video-capitol-hill-riot/index.html
Once again OSO, read my post carefully. I said cops let people in. I DID NOT say cops let everyone in.
Samuel back whenever he posted his BS, said cops didn't let people in. He was just wrong or he was lying. I showed evidence to the contrary, and today still tries to argue against it. He's not capable of admitting when he's wrong. He's a rube.
Why even bother having a conversation with him? Just call him a wrong lying biast leftist nut like he is...everytime he posts.
My 2 cents anyway. Or keep on and I'll keep sending ya blue stars
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Already did.Married A Horn said:Sam Lowry said:I don't know how it will end, but it starts with the law as written, not as you might wish it to be. It dates back to 1978, so dismissing it as TDS would be a big stretch even for you.Oldbear83 said:Anything to 'get Trump', I see.Sam Lowry said:The PRA applies to all documentary material, classified or not.Oldbear83 said:If Trump declassified the documents, then he committed no crime no manner how you spin it, Oso.Osodecentx said:Did he declassify the documents he illegally took?Oldbear83 said:Never occurred to you that as President, Trump had the authority to declassify documents?LateSteak69 said:Donald Trump signed a law that might’ve turned himself into a felon. Brilliant. pic.twitter.com/NgsbHSHSpK
— Jason Selvig (@jasonselvig) August 10, 2022
And no, Hillary never had that power, so another swing and miss from the roadkill poster.
This will not end the way you think it will, Sam.
Oh please tell us about all of the server laws that Hillary broke and their origins.
Let's cut the sophistry and settle the question once and for all. Do you contend that the authorities willingly let rioters into the Capitol?Rawhide said:He said that cops didn't let people in. I provided a video that in fact show cops let people in.Osodecentx said:Watch the video. If you continue to say Capitol police let rioters in, you're dishonest. 3 hours of videoRawhide said:Like I said, nothing but dishonesty from you. Can't admit when you're wrongSam Lowry said:Fallacy of equivocation. They may have "let" the mob in, but they didn't let the mob in.Rawhide said:The only one being dishonest here samuel, is you. Even when presented with video evidence of cops letting people into the capitol, you still tried to argue against. The same thing with the fact that Covid has a very very very high survival rate amone young peopleSam Lowry said:You're doing nothing but flaunting your own dishonesty when you repeat the "red carpet" talking point over and over. Even your side doesn't believe its own rhetoric.Rawhide said:Kind of like how you never accepted the fact that cops let people into the Capitol building or children in school don't need masks because the Covid survival rate is so damn high for these children... survival higher than the flu, kind of like that?Sam Lowry said:
Trump's enemies tried to hold him responsible for J6 via impeachment, but his allies weren't having it. Y'all won't accept the obvious until the feds connect every little dot. So they're connecting the dots.
The Justice Department this week released a three-hour video of a battle between rioters and the police at the US Capitol Building on January 6 where rioters brandished weapons, officers were viciously beaten, and a member of the mob died on Capitol steps.
The assault on the Lower West Terrace was one of the most violent confrontations between Capitol Police and the crowd. Officers held the line until the building was cleared without letting rioters inside. Some officers have since said they did not know the Capitol had already been breached in other areas.
The video, taken from a Capitol security camera, does not have sound. It starts as officers retreat, helping each other as they stumble inside and washing their eyes out with water from chemical spray. Rioters crowd in behind them, coordinate efforts to attack and push through in infamous moments that have haunted the public, and officers, ever since.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/24/politics/january-6-video-capitol-hill-riot/index.html
Once again OSO, read my post carefully. I said cops let people in. I DID NOT say cops let everyone in.
Samuel back whenever he posted his BS, said cops didn't let people in. He was just wrong or he was lying. I showed evidence to the contrary, and today still tries to argue against it. He's not capable of admitting when he's wrong. He's a rube.
some authorities willingly let protesters into the capital.Sam Lowry said:Let's cut the sophistry and settle the question once and for all. Do you contend that the authorities willingly let rioters into the Capitol?Rawhide said:He said that cops didn't let people in. I provided a video that in fact show cops let people in.Osodecentx said:Watch the video. If you continue to say Capitol police let rioters in, you're dishonest. 3 hours of videoRawhide said:Like I said, nothing but dishonesty from you. Can't admit when you're wrongSam Lowry said:Fallacy of equivocation. They may have "let" the mob in, but they didn't let the mob in.Rawhide said:The only one being dishonest here samuel, is you. Even when presented with video evidence of cops letting people into the capitol, you still tried to argue against. The same thing with the fact that Covid has a very very very high survival rate amone young peopleSam Lowry said:You're doing nothing but flaunting your own dishonesty when you repeat the "red carpet" talking point over and over. Even your side doesn't believe its own rhetoric.Rawhide said:Kind of like how you never accepted the fact that cops let people into the Capitol building or children in school don't need masks because the Covid survival rate is so damn high for these children... survival higher than the flu, kind of like that?Sam Lowry said:
Trump's enemies tried to hold him responsible for J6 via impeachment, but his allies weren't having it. Y'all won't accept the obvious until the feds connect every little dot. So they're connecting the dots.
The Justice Department this week released a three-hour video of a battle between rioters and the police at the US Capitol Building on January 6 where rioters brandished weapons, officers were viciously beaten, and a member of the mob died on Capitol steps.
The assault on the Lower West Terrace was one of the most violent confrontations between Capitol Police and the crowd. Officers held the line until the building was cleared without letting rioters inside. Some officers have since said they did not know the Capitol had already been breached in other areas.
The video, taken from a Capitol security camera, does not have sound. It starts as officers retreat, helping each other as they stumble inside and washing their eyes out with water from chemical spray. Rioters crowd in behind them, coordinate efforts to attack and push through in infamous moments that have haunted the public, and officers, ever since.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/24/politics/january-6-video-capitol-hill-riot/index.html
Once again OSO, read my post carefully. I said cops let people in. I DID NOT say cops let everyone in.
Samuel back whenever he posted his BS, said cops didn't let people in. He was just wrong or he was lying. I showed evidence to the contrary, and today still tries to argue against it. He's not capable of admitting when he's wrong. He's a rube.
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I didn't see anything about NARA issues with Obama or Hillary. Someone posted a tweet about FOIA, but nothing related to this.4th and Inches said:very true.. also has no enforcement penaltySam Lowry said:The PRA applies to all documentary material, classified or not.Oldbear83 said:If Trump declassified the documents, then he committed no crime no manner how you spin it, Oso.Osodecentx said:Did he declassify the documents he illegally took?Oldbear83 said:Never occurred to you that as President, Trump had the authority to declassify documents?LateSteak69 said:Donald Trump signed a law that might’ve turned himself into a felon. Brilliant. pic.twitter.com/NgsbHSHSpK
— Jason Selvig (@jasonselvig) August 10, 2022
And no, Hillary never had that power, so another swing and miss from the roadkill poster.
Its super fun to read about the way the NARA and DOJ handled Obama and Hillary vs this one..
Watch the video. You said that cops didn't let people in, the video shows different. You're trying to reframe the argument, once again. I'm not biting.Sam Lowry said:Let's cut the sophistry and settle the question once and for all. Do you contend that the authorities willingly let rioters into the Capitol?Rawhide said:He said that cops didn't let people in. I provided a video that in fact show cops let people in.Osodecentx said:Watch the video. If you continue to say Capitol police let rioters in, you're dishonest. 3 hours of videoRawhide said:Like I said, nothing but dishonesty from you. Can't admit when you're wrongSam Lowry said:Fallacy of equivocation. They may have "let" the mob in, but they didn't let the mob in.Rawhide said:The only one being dishonest here samuel, is you. Even when presented with video evidence of cops letting people into the capitol, you still tried to argue against. The same thing with the fact that Covid has a very very very high survival rate amone young peopleSam Lowry said:You're doing nothing but flaunting your own dishonesty when you repeat the "red carpet" talking point over and over. Even your side doesn't believe its own rhetoric.Rawhide said:Kind of like how you never accepted the fact that cops let people into the Capitol building or children in school don't need masks because the Covid survival rate is so damn high for these children... survival higher than the flu, kind of like that?Sam Lowry said:
Trump's enemies tried to hold him responsible for J6 via impeachment, but his allies weren't having it. Y'all won't accept the obvious until the feds connect every little dot. So they're connecting the dots.
The Justice Department this week released a three-hour video of a battle between rioters and the police at the US Capitol Building on January 6 where rioters brandished weapons, officers were viciously beaten, and a member of the mob died on Capitol steps.
The assault on the Lower West Terrace was one of the most violent confrontations between Capitol Police and the crowd. Officers held the line until the building was cleared without letting rioters inside. Some officers have since said they did not know the Capitol had already been breached in other areas.
The video, taken from a Capitol security camera, does not have sound. It starts as officers retreat, helping each other as they stumble inside and washing their eyes out with water from chemical spray. Rioters crowd in behind them, coordinate efforts to attack and push through in infamous moments that have haunted the public, and officers, ever since.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/24/politics/january-6-video-capitol-hill-riot/index.html
Once again OSO, read my post carefully. I said cops let people in. I DID NOT say cops let everyone in.
Samuel back whenever he posted his BS, said cops didn't let people in. He was just wrong or he was lying. I showed evidence to the contrary, and today still tries to argue against it. He's not capable of admitting when he's wrong. He's a rube.
But let's settle it... did the cops let people or not Samuel?