Oldbear83 said:

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For the TDS crowd, it's all about the headlines.

They still imagine that "this time" they will remove Trump.

The irony is that the only chance they have to beat Trump, is to hope this goes away before the midterm elections.

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My sister and my father-in-law were not going to vote for Trump in the primary, they have since changed their minds.

A co-worker who likes Trump, but was just too tired from the BS he brings onto himself, so far is still planning to vote for a DeSanits (or type), but she did say, she could be easily persuaded to go for the Don again after the events of this week. The funny thing, she's not all that upset that Trump got raided, she's upset that Trump got raided on no one else, I would imagine that's how most folks feel.

That memo pertains to one subject, the Russia investigation. If you think the only stuff they found pertained to that, then I would gently suggest the limb you're going out on can't hold much weight.

Also, this:

“Declassification, even by the President, must follow established procedures.”

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, in a 2020 decision about whether public comments by then-President Trump had inadvertently declassified a covert CIA program:https://t.co/OH8Tk8MqJN pic.twitter.com/g9XB2EonsZ

— Steve Vladeck (@steve_vladeck) August 12, 2022

J.B.Katz said:

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One Republican leader called Hannity out for disinformation about the FBI's retrieval of classified info that Trump illegally took home with him. But he has a self-interested reason: He'd be running against Trump.

Ron DeSantis went on Hannity and things got SPICY pic.twitter.com/F22YqEjbFr

— Timothy Burke (@bubbaprog) August 13, 2022

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I can't believe you fell for this doctored video. The poster admits under it it's fake. Goodness, again how many times over 6 years can libs be fooled and continue to believe lies? Did the freeze frame after each person spoke not give u a clue?

HuMcK said:

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That memo pertains to one subject, the Russia investigation. If you think the only stuff they found pertained to that, then I would gently suggest the limb you're going out on can't hold much weight.

Also, this:

“Declassification, even by the President, must follow established procedures.”

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, in a 2020 decision about whether public comments by then-President Trump had inadvertently declassified a covert CIA program:https://t.co/OH8Tk8MqJN pic.twitter.com/g9XB2EonsZ

— Steve Vladeck (@steve_vladeck) August 12, 2022

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Really? You guys don't see the difference between inadvertently declassified and the an Executive Order? At the very least, the President having an Executive Order declassified relieves criminal intent. This is all policy stuff Biden is turning criminal. Even if Supreme Court ruled it was not in Executive Branches rights to do it, it is not criminal. When Courts stepped in and said immigration restrictions unconstitutional was the Border patrol or President criminal to enforce up to court decision? Of course not. This is ridiculous.

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J.B.Katz said:

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One Republican leader called Hannity out for disinformation about the FBI's retrieval of classified info that Trump illegally took home with him. But he has a self-interested reason: He'd be running against Trump.

Ron DeSantis went on Hannity and things got SPICY pic.twitter.com/F22YqEjbFr

— Timothy Burke (@bubbaprog) August 13, 2022

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I can't believe you fell for this doctored video. The poster admits under it it's fake. Goodness, again how many times over 6 years can libs be fooled and continue to believe lies? Did the freeze frame after each person spoke not give u a clue?

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It's Jinxy, not surprising. She must be off her meds again

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Doc Holliday said:

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I'm betting Washington Post's sources guessed wrong and this is related to CIA sources and methods, not nuclear docs.

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they can say whatever they want with little need to prove it, classified documents will not be released to public so make stuff up and people gossip into a frenzy, the art of modern journalism

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Yep, it's really a political move and it's backfiring on them.

Just look at the goons in here trying to downplay it and tell us we're overreacting. They know deep down this is bs.

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the beauty of contriving a scandal on classified matters is that one will never see the full facts, the underlying documents. It's he said, she said....forever. That way, one need not even win the day on the scandal. One just keeps the cloud of accusations swirling about so that one can say 'man, that guy can't get along, can't do anything right, what a mess....."

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Indeed.

The big picture here is the government isn't transparent enough for the public to understand what's actually going on. It was always supposed to be about protecting sourced and methods but now it's about playing politics.

Just to emphasize how ad hoc and unworkable the latest justification being thrown out there is...

If Trump's position is that all of the documents he took are now declassified, presumably that means they should ALL be available for public viewing?

Per his statement yesterday, this would include EVERY document he EVER took from the Oval Office to the White House residence.

— Jonah Blank (@JonahBlank) August 13, 2022

So now we know:

The government had been negotiating for months to get these documents.

The search came about because of a legally executed search warrant through federal court.

No one would have known about the search had not Trump tried to use it to his political advantage

The FBI found documents that had the highest secret classification.

Trump cannot wave a magic wand and retroactively and proactively declassify documents.

The way the charges are framed, it doesn't matter if he had declassified them or not.

Breaking these laws are serious matters.

What we don't know:

Why Trump took these documents

Trump's specific knowledge about these documents.

What the top secret documents were about.

The rhetoric of Trump and his supporters have put the lives of FBI agents and DOF officials in danger. They already have blood on their hands with the incident in Ohio.

Once again, for Republicans Blue Lives Matter only sometimes.

HuMcK said:

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Just to emphasize how ad hoc and unworkable the latest justification being thrown out there is...

If Trump's position is that all of the documents he took are now declassified, presumably that means they should ALL be available for public viewing?

Per his statement yesterday, this would include EVERY document he EVER took from the Oval Office to the White House residence.

— Jonah Blank (@JonahBlank) August 13, 2022

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Yep.

4th and Inches said:

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Meadows memo confirms declassification of documents on January 19th by Donald Trump, when he was president..

Who said that happened earlier in the thead? Oh yeah, me..

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IF President Trump declassified the documents, that would mean there were no classified documents at MAL. Do we agree that a former president can't declassify documents retroactively?

If President Trump properly declassified documents, is there a requirement that the top secret documents in his possession be properly secured?

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It's a bit much to hear Garland lecture that it's beyond the pale to criticize FBI/DOJ, given the Steele dossier, the Page warrants, and the Mueller whitewash of all of it... The country has every right to be skeptical. https://t.co/X0xR6tTlPI via @WSJ

— Kimberley Strassel (@KimStrassel) August 11, 2022

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We live in such a clown world ... the Defund the Police Democrat media proclaiming if you criticize the government for raiding political opponents of the regime your dangerous. The gaslighting is remarkable.

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And the back the blue Republican media are proclaiming the police are planting evidence. The gaslighting is remarkable. Two side of the same coin.

I'm not sure whether we're agreeing or disagreeing. Again, NARA requires certain types of containers or construction, not just any old cabinet with a key. We don't know much about how Trump was storing the documents except that the feds didn't seem to like it.

Who did this? 🤣🤣🤣pic.twitter.com/tC4n63NqXl

— 🍊I Meme Therefore I Am ☢️🇺🇸 (@ImMeme0) August 13, 2022

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ScruffyD said:

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the warrant covers the espionage act. therefore, proof would have to have been provided to a judge.

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18 USC 793 - also called the Espionage Act. This statute "prohibits communicating, transmitting, or delivering to any person not entitled to receive it 'any document, writing, ... or note relating to the national defense,' or attempting to do so."

So they hve proof he tried to give it to somebody? He is entitled to have it based on 1987 SCOTUS ruling..

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see above. articles/documents do not have to have formal classification indicators to be treated, properly, as classified material.

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as soon as trump shows all the records he has are not classified, most of it goes to PRA issues which is an absolute nightmare for the Biden admin as it appears they were targeting a political opponent..

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That is not going to happen. You're dramatically over-reading both the SCOTUS precedent and the Meadows memo.

HuMcK said:

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That memo pertains to one subject, the Russia investigation. If you think the only stuff they found pertained to that, then I would gently suggest the limb you're going out on can't hold much weight.

Also, this:

“Declassification, even by the President, must follow established procedures.”

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, in a 2020 decision about whether public comments by then-President Trump had inadvertently declassified a covert CIA program:https://t.co/OH8Tk8MqJN pic.twitter.com/g9XB2EonsZ

— Steve Vladeck (@steve_vladeck) August 12, 2022

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the russia investigation was a very large subject but whatever..

Yay.. thanks for showing me a lower court ruling.. let me know if scotus weighs in

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4th and Inches said:

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ScruffyD said:

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the warrant covers the espionage act. therefore, proof would have to have been provided to a judge.

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18 USC 793 - also called the Espionage Act. This statute "prohibits communicating, transmitting, or delivering to any person not entitled to receive it 'any document, writing, ... or note relating to the national defense,' or attempting to do so."

So they hve proof he tried to give it to somebody? He is entitled to have it based on 1987 SCOTUS ruling..

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see above. articles/documents do not have to have formal classification indicators to be treated, properly, as classified material.

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as soon as trump shows all the records he has are not classified, most of it goes to PRA issues which is an absolute nightmare for the Biden admin as it appears they were targeting a political opponent..

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That is not going to happen. You're dramatically over-reading both the SCOTUS precedent and the Meadows memo.

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we will see

Based on what has come out so far, it looks as bad for Biden admin as it does for Trump. If it clears him from the fielf, great!

Watch dems get their rears kicked in November and again in 2024 no matter who is GOP canidate..

Sam Lowry said:

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I'm not sure whether we're agreeing or disagreeing. Again, NARA requires certain types of containers or construction, not just any old cabinet with a key. We don't know much about how Trump was storing the documents except that the feds didn't seem to like it.

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they liked it just fine except for a lock..

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Oldbear83 said:

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For the TDS crowd, it's all about the headlines.

They still imagine that "this time" they will remove Trump.

The irony is that the only chance they have to beat Trump, is to hope this goes away before the midterm elections.

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My sister and my father-in-law were not going to vote for Trump in the primary, they have since changed their minds.

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Then your sister and father in law are extremely short sighted .

This misuse of the FBI cannot be resolved with the nomination of Trump.

He is still too polarizing and would lose after months embarrassing himself in the general election .





Only chance this country has is DeSantis .

Osodecentx said:

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4th and Inches said:

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Meadows memo confirms declassification of documents on January 19th by Donald Trump, when he was president..

Who said that happened earlier in the thead? Oh yeah, me..

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IF President Trump declassified the documents, that would mean there were no classified documents at MAL. Do we agree that a former president can't declassify documents retroactively?

If President Trump properly declassified documents, is there a requirement that the top secret documents in his possession be properly secured?

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there has never been an arguement about whether Trump can declassify after he left office, yall randomly started that strawman arguement..

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Rawhide said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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For the TDS crowd, it's all about the headlines.

They still imagine thar months embarrassing himself in the general election .

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Only chance this country has is DeSantis .

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or Chauncey Gardener.

- KKM

{ sipping coffee }

{ eating donut }

4th and Inches said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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4th and Inches said:

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whiterock said:

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4th and Inches said:

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ScruffyD said:

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the warrant covers the espionage act. therefore, proof would have to have been provided to a judge.

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18 USC 793 - also called the Espionage Act. This statute "prohibits communicating, transmitting, or delivering to any person not entitled to receive it 'any document, writing, ... or note relating to the national defense,' or attempting to do so."

So they hve proof he tried to give it to somebody? He is entitled to have it based on 1987 SCOTUS ruling..

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see above. articles/documents do not have to have formal classification indicators to be treated, properly, as classified material.

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as soon as trump shows all the records he has are not classified, most of it goes to PRA issues which is an absolute nightmare for the Biden admin as it appears they were targeting a political opponent..

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That is not going to happen. You're dramatically over-reading both the SCOTUS precedent and the Meadows memo.

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we will see

Based on what has come out so far, it looks as bad for Biden admin as it does for Trump. If it clears him from the fielf, great!

Watch dems get their rears kicked in November and again in 2024 no matter who is GOP canidate..

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It doesn't matter if the GOP candidate violated the Espionage Act?

Sam Lowry said:

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4th and Inches said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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4th and Inches said:

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whiterock said:

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4th and Inches said:

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ScruffyD said:

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the warrant covers the espionage act. therefore, proof would have to have been provided to a judge.

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18 USC 793 - also called the Espionage Act. This statute "prohibits communicating, transmitting, or delivering to any person not entitled to receive it 'any document, writing, ... or note relating to the national defense,' or attempting to do so."

So they hve proof he tried to give it to somebody? He is entitled to have it based on 1987 SCOTUS ruling..

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see above. articles/documents do not have to have formal classification indicators to be treated, properly, as classified material.

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as soon as trump shows all the records he has are not classified, most of it goes to PRA issues which is an absolute nightmare for the Biden admin as it appears they were targeting a political opponent..

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That is not going to happen. You're dramatically over-reading both the SCOTUS precedent and the Meadows memo.

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we will see

Based on what has come out so far, it looks as bad for Biden admin as it does for Trump. If it clears him from the fielf, great!

Watch dems get their rears kicked in November and again in 2024 no matter who is GOP canidate..

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It doesn't matter if the GOP candidate violated the Espionage Act?

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is that a constitutionally limiting reason?

SCOTUS has already ruled in cases like this, if it isnt a constitutional limitation, it doesnt matter.. as they said in the opinion, let the people decide their leadership

Sam Lowry said:

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4th and Inches said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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4th and Inches said:

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whiterock said:

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4th and Inches said:

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ScruffyD said:

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the warrant covers the espionage act. therefore, proof would have to have been provided to a judge.

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18 USC 793 - also called the Espionage Act. This statute "prohibits communicating, transmitting, or delivering to any person not entitled to receive it 'any document, writing, ... or note relating to the national defense,' or attempting to do so."

So they hve proof he tried to give it to somebody? He is entitled to have it based on 1987 SCOTUS ruling..

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see above. articles/documents do not have to have formal classification indicators to be treated, properly, as classified material.

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as soon as trump shows all the records he has are not classified, most of it goes to PRA issues which is an absolute nightmare for the Biden admin as it appears they were targeting a political opponent..

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That is not going to happen. You're dramatically over-reading both the SCOTUS precedent and the Meadows memo.

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we will see

Based on what has come out so far, it looks as bad for Biden admin as it does for Trump. If it clears him from the fielf, great!

Watch dems get their rears kicked in November and again in 2024 no matter who is GOP canidate..

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It doesn't matter if the GOP candidate violated the Espionage Act?

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It doesn't matter if he shot someone on 5th Avenue, so why should an Espionage Act violation matter?

4th and Inches said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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4th and Inches said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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4th and Inches said:

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whiterock said:

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4th and Inches said:

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ScruffyD said:

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the warrant covers the espionage act. therefore, proof would have to have been provided to a judge.

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18 USC 793 - also called the Espionage Act. This statute "prohibits communicating, transmitting, or delivering to any person not entitled to receive it 'any document, writing, ... or note relating to the national defense,' or attempting to do so."

So they hve proof he tried to give it to somebody? He is entitled to have it based on 1987 SCOTUS ruling..

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see above. articles/documents do not have to have formal classification indicators to be treated, properly, as classified material.

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as soon as trump shows all the records he has are not classified, most of it goes to PRA issues which is an absolute nightmare for the Biden admin as it appears they were targeting a political opponent..

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That is not going to happen. You're dramatically over-reading both the SCOTUS precedent and the Meadows memo.

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we will see

Based on what has come out so far, it looks as bad for Biden admin as it does for Trump. If it clears him from the fielf, great!

Watch dems get their rears kicked in November and again in 2024 no matter who is GOP canidate..

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It doesn't matter if the GOP candidate violated the Espionage Act?

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is that a constitutionally limiting reason?

SCOTUS has already ruled in cases like this, if it isnt a constitutional limitation, it doesnt matter.. as they said in the opinion, let the people decide their leadership

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I'm talking about the people, you and me. Does it matter to you?

william said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Rawhide said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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For the TDS crowd, it's all about the headlines.

They still imagine thar months embarrassing himself in the general election .

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Only chance this country has is DeSantis .

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or Chauncey Gardener.

- KKM

{ sipping coffee }

{ eating donut }

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I like to watch.

Sam Lowry said:

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4th and Inches said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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4th and Inches said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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4th and Inches said:

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whiterock said:

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4th and Inches said:

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ScruffyD said:

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the warrant covers the espionage act. therefore, proof would have to have been provided to a judge.

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18 USC 793 - also called the Espionage Act. This statute "prohibits communicating, transmitting, or delivering to any person not entitled to receive it 'any document, writing, ... or note relating to the national defense,' or attempting to do so."

So they hve proof he tried to give it to somebody? He is entitled to have it based on 1987 SCOTUS ruling..

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see above. articles/documents do not have to have formal classification indicators to be treated, properly, as classified material.

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as soon as trump shows all the records he has are not classified, most of it goes to PRA issues which is an absolute nightmare for the Biden admin as it appears they were targeting a political opponent..

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That is not going to happen. You're dramatically over-reading both the SCOTUS precedent and the Meadows memo.

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we will see

Based on what has come out so far, it looks as bad for Biden admin as it does for Trump. If it clears him from the fielf, great!

Watch dems get their rears kicked in November and again in 2024 no matter who is GOP canidate..

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It doesn't matter if the GOP candidate violated the Espionage Act?

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is that a constitutionally limiting reason?

SCOTUS has already ruled in cases like this, if it isnt a constitutional limitation, it doesnt matter.. as they said in the opinion, let the people decide their leadership

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I'm talking about the people, you and me. Does it matter to you?

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sure it matters. I am also smart enough to be informed and wait for information.

Under all my smart/comedic remarks, there is an intellegent person.

Booray said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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4th and Inches said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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4th and Inches said:

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whiterock said:

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4th and Inches said:

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ScruffyD said:

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the warrant covers the espionage act. therefore, proof would have to have been provided to a judge.

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18 USC 793 - also called the Espionage Act. This statute "prohibits communicating, transmitting, or delivering to any person not entitled to receive it 'any document, writing, ... or note relating to the national defense,' or attempting to do so."

So they hve proof he tried to give it to somebody? He is entitled to have it based on 1987 SCOTUS ruling..

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see above. articles/documents do not have to have formal classification indicators to be treated, properly, as classified material.

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as soon as trump shows all the records he has are not classified, most of it goes to PRA issues which is an absolute nightmare for the Biden admin as it appears they were targeting a political opponent..

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That is not going to happen. You're dramatically over-reading both the SCOTUS precedent and the Meadows memo.

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we will see

Based on what has come out so far, it looks as bad for Biden admin as it does for Trump. If it clears him from the fielf, great!

Watch dems get their rears kicked in November and again in 2024 no matter who is GOP canidate..

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It doesn't matter if the GOP candidate violated the Espionage Act?

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It doesn't matter if he shot someone on 5th Avenue, so why should an Espionage Act violation matter?

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Ends justify the means right ?

Stalin provided the blueprint.....' show trials' .

Just charge Trump for spying for the Russians, for the Chinese .....or for spying for the Vatican. Who cares ?

And it Trump doesn't 'confess' line up his family against the wall.

If he does 'confess' then spare Trump's family but by all means line him up against the wall.





Its for the betterment of the country after all .

To protect democracy .

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william said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Rawhide said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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For the TDS crowd, it's all about the headlines.

They still imagine thar months embarrassing himself in the general election .

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Only chance this country has is DeSantis .

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or Chauncey Gardener.

- KKM

{ sipping coffee }

{ eating donut }

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I like to watch.

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I understand.

- KKM

Think I'll put on some more coffee.

D!

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4th and Inches said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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4th and Inches said:

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whiterock said:

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4th and Inches said:

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ScruffyD said:

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the warrant covers the espionage act. therefore, proof would have to have been provided to a judge.

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18 USC 793 - also called the Espionage Act. This statute "prohibits communicating, transmitting, or delivering to any person not entitled to receive it 'any document, writing, ... or note relating to the national defense,' or attempting to do so."

So they hve proof he tried to give it to somebody? He is entitled to have it based on 1987 SCOTUS ruling..

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see above. articles/documents do not have to have formal classification indicators to be treated, properly, as classified material.

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as soon as trump shows all the records he has are not classified, most of it goes to PRA issues which is an absolute nightmare for the Biden admin as it appears they were targeting a political opponent..

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That is not going to happen. You're dramatically over-reading both the SCOTUS precedent and the Meadows memo.

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we will see

Based on what has come out so far, it looks as bad for Biden admin as it does for Trump. If it clears him from the fielf, great!

Watch dems get their rears kicked in November and again in 2024 no matter who is GOP canidate..

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It doesn't matter if the GOP candidate violated the Espionage Act?

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It doesn't matter if he shot someone on 5th Avenue, so why should an Espionage Act violation matter?

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Ends justify the means right ?

Stalin provided the blueprint.....' show trials' .

Just charge Trump for spying for the Russians, for the Chinese .....or for spying for the Vatican. Who cares ?

And it Trump doesn't 'confess' line up his family against the wall.

If he does 'confess' then spare Trump's family but by all means line him up against the wall.





Its for the betterment of the country after all .

To protect democracy .

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It seems obvious that the government had asked for documents and subpoeaned documents.Trump-as his M.O. blew all that off. At some point, you have to either go take them or say" The law does not apply to former presidents."

But that is the equivalent of mass executions? A bit much even for a drama queen like you.

By the way, when are the Dems going to get around to revoking the filibuster rule, making Puerto Rico and D.C. states and packing the Supremen Court? A point I bring up becuase those were your drama queen points when Biden was elected.

HuMcK said:

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Just to emphasize how ad hoc and unworkable the latest justification being thrown out there is...

If Trump's position is that all of the documents he took are now declassified, presumably that means they should ALL be available for public viewing?

Per his statement yesterday, this would include EVERY document he EVER took from the Oval Office to the White House residence.

— Jonah Blank (@JonahBlank) August 13, 2022

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Do you think he's the only POTUS who ever took a classified document to the. WH residential quarters?

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Sam Lowry said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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4th and Inches said:

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whiterock said:

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4th and Inches said:

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ScruffyD said:

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the warrant covers the espionage act. therefore, proof would have to have been provided to a judge.

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18 USC 793 - also called the Espionage Act. This statute "prohibits communicating, transmitting, or delivering to any person not entitled to receive it 'any document, writing, ... or note relating to the national defense,' or attempting to do so."

So they hve proof he tried to give it to somebody? He is entitled to have it based on 1987 SCOTUS ruling..

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see above. articles/documents do not have to have formal classification indicators to be treated, properly, as classified material.

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as soon as trump shows all the records he has are not classified, most of it goes to PRA issues which is an absolute nightmare for the Biden admin as it appears they were targeting a political opponent..

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That is not going to happen. You're dramatically over-reading both the SCOTUS precedent and the Meadows memo.

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we will see

Based on what has come out so far, it looks as bad for Biden admin as it does for Trump. If it clears him from the fielf, great!

Watch dems get their rears kicked in November and again in 2024 no matter who is GOP canidate..

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It doesn't matter if the GOP candidate violated the Espionage Act?

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It doesn't matter if he shot someone on 5th Avenue, so why should an Espionage Act violation matter?

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Funny how the Espionage Act is now being invoked, Obama loved it. Remember, he had people tried under the Espionage act for leaks to the media. Remember Obama on TV saying leaks costs lives. Funny how under Trump, how many people could have been tried using that reationale? Now, it is vogue again to use the Espionage Act with Biden.

But, if you want to sink someone it is a very good weapon. If I remember correctly, it is almost impossible to defend against. You can't use any of the information, it is classified. For National Security, you are basically considered guilty until proven innocent and those determining guilt are those that accused you in fhe first place.

Hear, Hear, Obama finally stepped in and said enough, after all he should know he used it 7 times.. This should be good.

Idk, you tell me. Sounds like he's the first one to defy subpoenas for what he took.

You really have no issue with the constantly shifting defense narratives Trump used? If it was all declassified, then why the "planted evidence" dog and pony show? It's all just so obviously false and self-serving...if these types of bogus excuses had come from Hillary y'all would be screaming to lock her up...

HuMcK said:

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Idk, you tell me. Sounds like he's the first one to defy subpoenas for what he took.

You really have no issue with the constantly shifting defense narratives Trump used? If it was all declassified, then why the "planted evidence" dog and pony show? It's all just so obviously false and self-serving...if these types of bogus excuses had come from Hillary y'all would be screaming to lock her up...

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And you screamed RESIST. This whole thing is a political exercise to ensure the swing vote goes blue. It is more desperate and blatant because of the disaster Biden has been. So, they are calling out the big guns. Why else do you think we are discussing this in August 2022 and not June 2021?

On January 19, 2021, Donald J. Trump declassified materials related to the Cross Fire Hurricane investigation through the linked executive order:

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/presidential-actions/memorandum-declassification-certain-materials-related-fbis-crossfire-hurricane-investigation/

This declassification followed an early incident in which the White House Chief of Staff acknowledged that "informal declassification" was not appropriate.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/meadows-trump-tweets-declassify-russia-probe-documents

It seems clear that Trump and those around him should have understood that if Trump wanted to declassify something he should say it in writing. There are about a 1,000 good reasons for that. Lets start witht the idea that others in the government need to know how to handle that information. Once information is declassified the press should know. Maybe there is a national security reason to keep the information classified that even a stable genius missed; he can be informed and retract. If the public elects someone else president who disagrees, he or she needs to know so that they can reclassify the information. Classification status can impact criminal matters, the courts should know for certain if information is classified or not.

Given all that, can we agree that as a matter of good government practice, there shoud be written evidence of a president's decision to declassify information? if so, other than CrossFire Hurricane, what evidence of declassification exists that applies to the information beleived to be at Mar A Lago

Have to give him credit here. He actually pulled it off.