Federal Judge blocks Trump from deporting illegal alien gang members

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Robert Wilson
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Sam Lowry said:

Robert Wilson said:

Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Anyone else notice Sam is ducking the fact that none of these judges established standing or immediate threat for the plaintiffs?

Anyone else notice Sam cannot name a single 'Republican' judge who ordered the Biden or Obama Administrations to spend money on a program or agency they wanted to cut?

Just call him Democrat Sam from now on.
Standing was never raised as an issue. Irreparable harm was established by the plaintiffs, in the opinion of the judge, and I don't know of any case where it was more obvious. Many detainees who were likely innocent are now caged in conditions that wouldn't be fit for animals, and there's no realistic hope for relief.

All because we couldn't wait a few days to punish us some brown people.


Hahahahahahaha

Race card!
I've been reading the thread for nine pages. I'm open to any other reason why these people didn't deserve due process.


Because racism of the cisgender patriarchy in late stage capitalism, plus fascism and a dose of climate apocalypse. Hopefully they were at least all masked up and social distancing.
Sam Lowry
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Robert Wilson said:

Sam Lowry said:

Robert Wilson said:

Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Anyone else notice Sam is ducking the fact that none of these judges established standing or immediate threat for the plaintiffs?

Anyone else notice Sam cannot name a single 'Republican' judge who ordered the Biden or Obama Administrations to spend money on a program or agency they wanted to cut?

Just call him Democrat Sam from now on.
Standing was never raised as an issue. Irreparable harm was established by the plaintiffs, in the opinion of the judge, and I don't know of any case where it was more obvious. Many detainees who were likely innocent are now caged in conditions that wouldn't be fit for animals, and there's no realistic hope for relief.

All because we couldn't wait a few days to punish us some brown people.


Hahahahahahaha

Race card!
I've been reading the thread for nine pages. I'm open to any other reason why these people didn't deserve due process.


Because racism of the cisgender patriarchy in late stage capitalism, plus fascism and a dose of climate apocalypse. Hopefully they were at least all masked up and social distancing.

Trump's legal team should hire you. It's not a great argument, but I've seen them do worse.
4th and Inches
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Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Anyone else notice Sam is ducking the fact that none of these judges established standing or immediate threat for the plaintiffs?

Anyone else notice Sam cannot name a single 'Republican' judge who ordered the Biden or Obama Administrations to spend money on a program or agency they wanted to cut?

Just call him Democrat Sam from now on.
Standing was never raised as an issue. Irreparable harm was established by the plaintiffs, in the opinion of the judge, and I don't know of any case where it was more obvious. Many detainees who were likely innocent are now caged in conditions that wouldn't be fit for animals, and there's no realistic hope for relief.

All because we couldn't wait a few days to punish us some brown people.
likely innocent? So we are randomly picking up innocent people and shipping them off? LoL

Go sit down
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Sam Lowry
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4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Anyone else notice Sam is ducking the fact that none of these judges established standing or immediate threat for the plaintiffs?

Anyone else notice Sam cannot name a single 'Republican' judge who ordered the Biden or Obama Administrations to spend money on a program or agency they wanted to cut?

Just call him Democrat Sam from now on.
Standing was never raised as an issue. Irreparable harm was established by the plaintiffs, in the opinion of the judge, and I don't know of any case where it was more obvious. Many detainees who were likely innocent are now caged in conditions that wouldn't be fit for animals, and there's no realistic hope for relief.

All because we couldn't wait a few days to punish us some brown people.
likely innocent? So we are randomly picking up innocent people and shipping them off? LoL

Go sit down
We're talking in some cases about victims of gang violence who had pending asylum claims.
GrowlTowel
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Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Anyone else notice Sam is ducking the fact that none of these judges established standing or immediate threat for the plaintiffs?

Anyone else notice Sam cannot name a single 'Republican' judge who ordered the Biden or Obama Administrations to spend money on a program or agency they wanted to cut?

Just call him Democrat Sam from now on.
Standing was never raised as an issue. Irreparable harm was established by the plaintiffs, in the opinion of the judge, and I don't know of any case where it was more obvious. Many detainees who were likely innocent are now caged in conditions that wouldn't be fit for animals, and there's no realistic hope for relief.

All because we couldn't wait a few days to punish us some brown people.
likely innocent? So we are randomly picking up innocent people and shipping them off? LoL

Go sit down
We're talking in some cases about victims of gang violence who had pending asylum claims.


Asylum claims are filed by persons outside the US that are trying to come to the US.

Nice try though.
Sam Lowry
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GrowlTowel said:

Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Anyone else notice Sam is ducking the fact that none of these judges established standing or immediate threat for the plaintiffs?

Anyone else notice Sam cannot name a single 'Republican' judge who ordered the Biden or Obama Administrations to spend money on a program or agency they wanted to cut?

Just call him Democrat Sam from now on.
Standing was never raised as an issue. Irreparable harm was established by the plaintiffs, in the opinion of the judge, and I don't know of any case where it was more obvious. Many detainees who were likely innocent are now caged in conditions that wouldn't be fit for animals, and there's no realistic hope for relief.

All because we couldn't wait a few days to punish us some brown people.
likely innocent? So we are randomly picking up innocent people and shipping them off? LoL

Go sit down
We're talking in some cases about victims of gang violence who had pending asylum claims.


Asylum claims are filed by persons outside the US that are trying to come to the US.

Nice try though.
See page 18 of the plaintiffs' memo, linked earlier.
Wangchung
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Sam Lowry said:

GrowlTowel said:

Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Anyone else notice Sam is ducking the fact that none of these judges established standing or immediate threat for the plaintiffs?

Anyone else notice Sam cannot name a single 'Republican' judge who ordered the Biden or Obama Administrations to spend money on a program or agency they wanted to cut?

Just call him Democrat Sam from now on.
Standing was never raised as an issue. Irreparable harm was established by the plaintiffs, in the opinion of the judge, and I don't know of any case where it was more obvious. Many detainees who were likely innocent are now caged in conditions that wouldn't be fit for animals, and there's no realistic hope for relief.

All because we couldn't wait a few days to punish us some brown people.
likely innocent? So we are randomly picking up innocent people and shipping them off? LoL

Go sit down
We're talking in some cases about victims of gang violence who had pending asylum claims.


Asylum claims are filed by persons outside the US that are trying to come to the US.

Nice try though.
See page 18 of the plaintiffs' memo, linked earlier.
So whatever the gang members claim we take as gospel but whatever ICE tells us we have to suspect as lies until proven beyond a shadow of a doubt? Interesting.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

Osodecentx
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4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Anyone else notice Sam is ducking the fact that none of these judges established standing or immediate threat for the plaintiffs?

Anyone else notice Sam cannot name a single 'Republican' judge who ordered the Biden or Obama Administrations to spend money on a program or agency they wanted to cut?

Just call him Democrat Sam from now on.
Standing was never raised as an issue. Irreparable harm was established by the plaintiffs, in the opinion of the judge, and I don't know of any case where it was more obvious. Many detainees who were likely innocent are now caged in conditions that wouldn't be fit for animals, and there's no realistic hope for relief.

All because we couldn't wait a few days to punish us some brown people.
likely innocent? So we are randomly picking up innocent people and shipping them off? LoL

Go sit down


Why not have a hearing?
historian
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Married A Horn said:

historian said:





Been saying this for a week.

I know. I found the convenient meme and posted to reinforce and remind anyone who might have forgotten.
Mothra
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Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Anyone else notice Sam is ducking the fact that none of these judges established standing or immediate threat for the plaintiffs?

Anyone else notice Sam cannot name a single 'Republican' judge who ordered the Biden or Obama Administrations to spend money on a program or agency they wanted to cut?

Just call him Democrat Sam from now on.
Standing was never raised as an issue. Irreparable harm was established by the plaintiffs, in the opinion of the judge, and I don't know of any case where it was more obvious. Many detainees who were likely innocent are now caged in conditions that wouldn't be fit for animals, and there's no realistic hope for relief.

All because we couldn't wait a few days to punish us some brown people.
likely innocent? So we are randomly picking up innocent people and shipping them off? LoL

Go sit down
We're talking in some cases about victims of gang violence who had pending asylum claims.
Link? Hadn't seen this reported.
historian
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Robert Wilson said:

Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Anyone else notice Sam is ducking the fact that none of these judges established standing or immediate threat for the plaintiffs?

Anyone else notice Sam cannot name a single 'Republican' judge who ordered the Biden or Obama Administrations to spend money on a program or agency they wanted to cut?

Just call him Democrat Sam from now on.
Standing was never raised as an issue. Irreparable harm was established by the plaintiffs, in the opinion of the judge, and I don't know of any case where it was more obvious. Many detainees who were likely innocent are now caged in conditions that wouldn't be fit for animals, and there's no realistic hope for relief.

All because we couldn't wait a few days to punish us some brown people.


Hahahahahahaha

Race card!

The last resort of the Left when they don't have a legitimate argument.

Between Trump & these judges it is the former who is actually following the constitution.
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Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

GrowlTowel said:

Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Anyone else notice Sam is ducking the fact that none of these judges established standing or immediate threat for the plaintiffs?

Anyone else notice Sam cannot name a single 'Republican' judge who ordered the Biden or Obama Administrations to spend money on a program or agency they wanted to cut?

Just call him Democrat Sam from now on.
Standing was never raised as an issue. Irreparable harm was established by the plaintiffs, in the opinion of the judge, and I don't know of any case where it was more obvious. Many detainees who were likely innocent are now caged in conditions that wouldn't be fit for animals, and there's no realistic hope for relief.

All because we couldn't wait a few days to punish us some brown people.
likely innocent? So we are randomly picking up innocent people and shipping them off? LoL

Go sit down
We're talking in some cases about victims of gang violence who had pending asylum claims.


Asylum claims are filed by persons outside the US that are trying to come to the US.

Nice try though.
See page 18 of the plaintiffs' memo, linked earlier.
So whatever the gang members claim we take as gospel but whatever ICE tells us we have to suspect as lies until proven beyond a shadow of a doubt? Interesting.
It's almost like there's this weird "presumption of innocence." If only we had some reasonable process to follow…some way of hearing the evidence so we wouldn't have to take it on faith.
Wangchung
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Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

GrowlTowel said:

Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Anyone else notice Sam is ducking the fact that none of these judges established standing or immediate threat for the plaintiffs?

Anyone else notice Sam cannot name a single 'Republican' judge who ordered the Biden or Obama Administrations to spend money on a program or agency they wanted to cut?

Just call him Democrat Sam from now on.
Standing was never raised as an issue. Irreparable harm was established by the plaintiffs, in the opinion of the judge, and I don't know of any case where it was more obvious. Many detainees who were likely innocent are now caged in conditions that wouldn't be fit for animals, and there's no realistic hope for relief.

All because we couldn't wait a few days to punish us some brown people.
likely innocent? So we are randomly picking up innocent people and shipping them off? LoL

Go sit down
We're talking in some cases about victims of gang violence who had pending asylum claims.


Asylum claims are filed by persons outside the US that are trying to come to the US.

Nice try though.
See page 18 of the plaintiffs' memo, linked earlier.
So whatever the gang members claim we take as gospel but whatever ICE tells us we have to suspect as lies until proven beyond a shadow of a doubt? Interesting.
It's almost like there's this weird "presumption of innocence." If only we had some reasonable process to follow…some way of hearing the evidence so we wouldn't have to take it on faith.
No, it's more like you choose to believe violent illegal alien gang members over the arresting agents because you don't like Orange Man Bad.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

Osodecentx
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Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

GrowlTowel said:

Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Anyone else notice Sam is ducking the fact that none of these judges established standing or immediate threat for the plaintiffs?

Anyone else notice Sam cannot name a single 'Republican' judge who ordered the Biden or Obama Administrations to spend money on a program or agency they wanted to cut?

Just call him Democrat Sam from now on.
Standing was never raised as an issue. Irreparable harm was established by the plaintiffs, in the opinion of the judge, and I don't know of any case where it was more obvious. Many detainees who were likely innocent are now caged in conditions that wouldn't be fit for animals, and there's no realistic hope for relief.

All because we couldn't wait a few days to punish us some brown people.
likely innocent? So we are randomly picking up innocent people and shipping them off? LoL

Go sit down
We're talking in some cases about victims of gang violence who had pending asylum claims.


Asylum claims are filed by persons outside the US that are trying to come to the US.

Nice try though.
See page 18 of the plaintiffs' memo, linked earlier.
So whatever the gang members claim we take as gospel but whatever ICE tells us we have to suspect as lies until proven beyond a shadow of a doubt? Interesting.
It's almost like there's this weird "presumption of innocence." If only we had some reasonable process to follow…some way of hearing the evidence so we wouldn't have to take it on faith.
No, it's more like you choose to believe violent illegal alien gang members over the arresting agents because you don't like Orange Man Bad.


Why not have a hearing?
Married A Horn
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Osodecentx said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

GrowlTowel said:

Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Anyone else notice Sam is ducking the fact that none of these judges established standing or immediate threat for the plaintiffs?

Anyone else notice Sam cannot name a single 'Republican' judge who ordered the Biden or Obama Administrations to spend money on a program or agency they wanted to cut?

Just call him Democrat Sam from now on.
Standing was never raised as an issue. Irreparable harm was established by the plaintiffs, in the opinion of the judge, and I don't know of any case where it was more obvious. Many detainees who were likely innocent are now caged in conditions that wouldn't be fit for animals, and there's no realistic hope for relief.

All because we couldn't wait a few days to punish us some brown people.
likely innocent? So we are randomly picking up innocent people and shipping them off? LoL

Go sit down
We're talking in some cases about victims of gang violence who had pending asylum claims.


Asylum claims are filed by persons outside the US that are trying to come to the US.

Nice try though.
See page 18 of the plaintiffs' memo, linked earlier.
So whatever the gang members claim we take as gospel but whatever ICE tells us we have to suspect as lies until proven beyond a shadow of a doubt? Interesting.
It's almost like there's this weird "presumption of innocence." If only we had some reasonable process to follow…some way of hearing the evidence so we wouldn't have to take it on faith.
No, it's more like you choose to believe violent illegal alien gang members over the arresting agents because you don't like Orange Man Bad.


Why not have a hearing?


You dont have hearings on war or invasions. You just win.
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Married A Horn said:

Osodecentx said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

GrowlTowel said:

Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Anyone else notice Sam is ducking the fact that none of these judges established standing or immediate threat for the plaintiffs?

Anyone else notice Sam cannot name a single 'Republican' judge who ordered the Biden or Obama Administrations to spend money on a program or agency they wanted to cut?

Just call him Democrat Sam from now on.
Standing was never raised as an issue. Irreparable harm was established by the plaintiffs, in the opinion of the judge, and I don't know of any case where it was more obvious. Many detainees who were likely innocent are now caged in conditions that wouldn't be fit for animals, and there's no realistic hope for relief.

All because we couldn't wait a few days to punish us some brown people.
likely innocent? So we are randomly picking up innocent people and shipping them off? LoL

Go sit down
We're talking in some cases about victims of gang violence who had pending asylum claims.


Asylum claims are filed by persons outside the US that are trying to come to the US.

Nice try though.
See page 18 of the plaintiffs' memo, linked earlier.
So whatever the gang members claim we take as gospel but whatever ICE tells us we have to suspect as lies until proven beyond a shadow of a doubt? Interesting.
It's almost like there's this weird "presumption of innocence." If only we had some reasonable process to follow…some way of hearing the evidence so we wouldn't have to take it on faith.
No, it's more like you choose to believe violent illegal alien gang members over the arresting agents because you don't like Orange Man Bad.


Why not have a hearing?


You dont have hearings on war or invasions. You just win.
"After any such proclamation has been made, the several courts of the United States, having criminal jurisdiction, and the several justices and judges of the courts of the United States, are authorized and it shall be their duty, upon complaint against any alien enemy resident and at large within such jurisdiction or district, to the danger of the public peace or safety, and contrary to the tenor or intent of such proclamation, or other regulations which the President may have established, to cause such alien to be duly apprehended and conveyed before such court, judge, or justice; and after a full examination and hearing on such complaint, and sufficient cause appearing, to order such alien to be removed out of the territory of the United States, or to give sureties for his good behavior, or to be otherwise restrained, conformably to the proclamation or regulations established as aforesaid, and to imprison, or otherwise secure such alien, until the order which may be so made shall be performed."
Married A Horn
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Sam Lowry said:

Married A Horn said:

Osodecentx said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

GrowlTowel said:

Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Anyone else notice Sam is ducking the fact that none of these judges established standing or immediate threat for the plaintiffs?

Anyone else notice Sam cannot name a single 'Republican' judge who ordered the Biden or Obama Administrations to spend money on a program or agency they wanted to cut?

Just call him Democrat Sam from now on.
Standing was never raised as an issue. Irreparable harm was established by the plaintiffs, in the opinion of the judge, and I don't know of any case where it was more obvious. Many detainees who were likely innocent are now caged in conditions that wouldn't be fit for animals, and there's no realistic hope for relief.

All because we couldn't wait a few days to punish us some brown people.
likely innocent? So we are randomly picking up innocent people and shipping them off? LoL

Go sit down
We're talking in some cases about victims of gang violence who had pending asylum claims.


Asylum claims are filed by persons outside the US that are trying to come to the US.

Nice try though.
See page 18 of the plaintiffs' memo, linked earlier.
So whatever the gang members claim we take as gospel but whatever ICE tells us we have to suspect as lies until proven beyond a shadow of a doubt? Interesting.
It's almost like there's this weird "presumption of innocence." If only we had some reasonable process to follow…some way of hearing the evidence so we wouldn't have to take it on faith.
No, it's more like you choose to believe violent illegal alien gang members over the arresting agents because you don't like Orange Man Bad.


Why not have a hearing?


You dont have hearings on war or invasions. You just win.
"After any such proclamation has been made, the several courts of the United States, having criminal jurisdiction, and the several justices and judges of the courts of the United States, are authorized and it shall be their duty, upon complaint against any alien enemy resident and at large within such jurisdiction or district, to the danger of the public peace or safety, and contrary to the tenor or intent of such proclamation, or other regulations which the President may have established, to cause such alien to be duly apprehended and conveyed before such court, judge, or justice; and after a full examination and hearing on such complaint, and sufficient cause appearing, to order such alien to be removed out of the territory of the United States, or to give sureties for his good behavior, or to be otherwise restrained, conformably to the proclamation or regulations established as aforesaid, and to imprison, or otherwise secure such alien, until the order which may be so made shall be performed."


I was wrong. It seems you do have to have the hearings. Did they?
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Osodecentx said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

GrowlTowel said:

Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Anyone else notice Sam is ducking the fact that none of these judges established standing or immediate threat for the plaintiffs?

Anyone else notice Sam cannot name a single 'Republican' judge who ordered the Biden or Obama Administrations to spend money on a program or agency they wanted to cut?

Just call him Democrat Sam from now on.
Standing was never raised as an issue. Irreparable harm was established by the plaintiffs, in the opinion of the judge, and I don't know of any case where it was more obvious. Many detainees who were likely innocent are now caged in conditions that wouldn't be fit for animals, and there's no realistic hope for relief.

All because we couldn't wait a few days to punish us some brown people.
likely innocent? So we are randomly picking up innocent people and shipping them off? LoL

Go sit down
We're talking in some cases about victims of gang violence who had pending asylum claims.


Asylum claims are filed by persons outside the US that are trying to come to the US.

Nice try though.
See page 18 of the plaintiffs' memo, linked earlier.
So whatever the gang members claim we take as gospel but whatever ICE tells us we have to suspect as lies until proven beyond a shadow of a doubt? Interesting.
It's almost like there's this weird "presumption of innocence." If only we had some reasonable process to follow…some way of hearing the evidence so we wouldn't have to take it on faith.
No, it's more like you choose to believe violent illegal alien gang members over the arresting agents because you don't like Orange Man Bad.


Why not have a hearing?
When the idea behind the invasion is to overwhelm the courts and be set free while awaiting trial, it becomes suicidal to ignore such designs and allow that overwhelming to happen anyway.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

Married A Horn
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Wangchung said:

Osodecentx said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

GrowlTowel said:

Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Anyone else notice Sam is ducking the fact that none of these judges established standing or immediate threat for the plaintiffs?

Anyone else notice Sam cannot name a single 'Republican' judge who ordered the Biden or Obama Administrations to spend money on a program or agency they wanted to cut?

Just call him Democrat Sam from now on.
Standing was never raised as an issue. Irreparable harm was established by the plaintiffs, in the opinion of the judge, and I don't know of any case where it was more obvious. Many detainees who were likely innocent are now caged in conditions that wouldn't be fit for animals, and there's no realistic hope for relief.

All because we couldn't wait a few days to punish us some brown people.
likely innocent? So we are randomly picking up innocent people and shipping them off? LoL

Go sit down
We're talking in some cases about victims of gang violence who had pending asylum claims.


Asylum claims are filed by persons outside the US that are trying to come to the US.

Nice try though.
See page 18 of the plaintiffs' memo, linked earlier.
So whatever the gang members claim we take as gospel but whatever ICE tells us we have to suspect as lies until proven beyond a shadow of a doubt? Interesting.
It's almost like there's this weird "presumption of innocence." If only we had some reasonable process to follow…some way of hearing the evidence so we wouldn't have to take it on faith.
No, it's more like you choose to believe violent illegal alien gang members over the arresting agents because you don't like Orange Man Bad.


Why not have a hearing?
When the idea behind the invasion is to overwhelm the courts and be set free while awaiting trial, it becomes suicidal to ignore such designs and allow that overwhelming to happen anyway.


That is a real problem. The other problem is the left judges will just release them back into the streets like they have been doing. I still say ignore the judges. The Judiciary is broken.
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The fascists hate America, whether they are morons in congress, morons working for our former fake president the past 4 years, or corrupt politicians wearing black robes. I see no reason to help them out. Illegals aliens have no right to be here and should not be able to abuse our legal system, which would deny American citizens their constitutional right to a speedy trial.
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Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

GrowlTowel said:

Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Anyone else notice Sam is ducking the fact that none of these judges established standing or immediate threat for the plaintiffs?

Anyone else notice Sam cannot name a single 'Republican' judge who ordered the Biden or Obama Administrations to spend money on a program or agency they wanted to cut?

Just call him Democrat Sam from now on.
Standing was never raised as an issue. Irreparable harm was established by the plaintiffs, in the opinion of the judge, and I don't know of any case where it was more obvious. Many detainees who were likely innocent are now caged in conditions that wouldn't be fit for animals, and there's no realistic hope for relief.

All because we couldn't wait a few days to punish us some brown people.
likely innocent? So we are randomly picking up innocent people and shipping them off? LoL

Go sit down
We're talking in some cases about victims of gang violence who had pending asylum claims.


Asylum claims are filed by persons outside the US that are trying to come to the US.

Nice try though.
See page 18 of the plaintiffs' memo, linked earlier.
So whatever the gang members claim we take as gospel but whatever ICE tells us we have to suspect as lies until proven beyond a shadow of a doubt? Interesting.
It's almost like there's this weird "presumption of innocence." If only we had some reasonable process to follow…some way of hearing the evidence so we wouldn't have to take it on faith.
No, it's more like you choose to believe violent illegal alien gang members over the arresting agents because you don't like Orange Man Bad.
I'm ready to hear evidence either way. That's what hearings are for. You believe whatever the government tells you to believe because Orange Man Good.

If this were Biden, you'd be shouting from the rooftops about how it was a shocking abuse of power and a danger to all of our liberties. And you'd be right. A huge hypocrite, but still absolutely right.
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Married A Horn said:

Sam Lowry said:

Married A Horn said:

Osodecentx said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

GrowlTowel said:

Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Anyone else notice Sam is ducking the fact that none of these judges established standing or immediate threat for the plaintiffs?

Anyone else notice Sam cannot name a single 'Republican' judge who ordered the Biden or Obama Administrations to spend money on a program or agency they wanted to cut?

Just call him Democrat Sam from now on.
Standing was never raised as an issue. Irreparable harm was established by the plaintiffs, in the opinion of the judge, and I don't know of any case where it was more obvious. Many detainees who were likely innocent are now caged in conditions that wouldn't be fit for animals, and there's no realistic hope for relief.

All because we couldn't wait a few days to punish us some brown people.
likely innocent? So we are randomly picking up innocent people and shipping them off? LoL

Go sit down
We're talking in some cases about victims of gang violence who had pending asylum claims.


Asylum claims are filed by persons outside the US that are trying to come to the US.

Nice try though.
See page 18 of the plaintiffs' memo, linked earlier.
So whatever the gang members claim we take as gospel but whatever ICE tells us we have to suspect as lies until proven beyond a shadow of a doubt? Interesting.
It's almost like there's this weird "presumption of innocence." If only we had some reasonable process to follow…some way of hearing the evidence so we wouldn't have to take it on faith.
No, it's more like you choose to believe violent illegal alien gang members over the arresting agents because you don't like Orange Man Bad.


Why not have a hearing?


You dont have hearings on war or invasions. You just win.
"After any such proclamation has been made, the several courts of the United States, having criminal jurisdiction, and the several justices and judges of the courts of the United States, are authorized and it shall be their duty, upon complaint against any alien enemy resident and at large within such jurisdiction or district, to the danger of the public peace or safety, and contrary to the tenor or intent of such proclamation, or other regulations which the President may have established, to cause such alien to be duly apprehended and conveyed before such court, judge, or justice; and after a full examination and hearing on such complaint, and sufficient cause appearing, to order such alien to be removed out of the territory of the United States, or to give sureties for his good behavior, or to be otherwise restrained, conformably to the proclamation or regulations established as aforesaid, and to imprison, or otherwise secure such alien, until the order which may be so made shall be performed."


I was wrong. It seems you do have to have the hearings. Did they?
No, they didn't. There was a hearing on the TRO, but it wasn't a full examination and hearing on the complaint, and it didn't happen until after they were removed.
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Wangchung said:

Osodecentx said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

GrowlTowel said:

Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Anyone else notice Sam is ducking the fact that none of these judges established standing or immediate threat for the plaintiffs?

Anyone else notice Sam cannot name a single 'Republican' judge who ordered the Biden or Obama Administrations to spend money on a program or agency they wanted to cut?

Just call him Democrat Sam from now on.
Standing was never raised as an issue. Irreparable harm was established by the plaintiffs, in the opinion of the judge, and I don't know of any case where it was more obvious. Many detainees who were likely innocent are now caged in conditions that wouldn't be fit for animals, and there's no realistic hope for relief.

All because we couldn't wait a few days to punish us some brown people.
likely innocent? So we are randomly picking up innocent people and shipping them off? LoL

Go sit down
We're talking in some cases about victims of gang violence who had pending asylum claims.


Asylum claims are filed by persons outside the US that are trying to come to the US.

Nice try though.
See page 18 of the plaintiffs' memo, linked earlier.
So whatever the gang members claim we take as gospel but whatever ICE tells us we have to suspect as lies until proven beyond a shadow of a doubt? Interesting.
It's almost like there's this weird "presumption of innocence." If only we had some reasonable process to follow…some way of hearing the evidence so we wouldn't have to take it on faith.
No, it's more like you choose to believe violent illegal alien gang members over the arresting agents because you don't like Orange Man Bad.


Why not have a hearing?
When the idea behind the invasion is to overwhelm the courts and be set free while awaiting trial, it becomes suicidal to ignore such designs and allow that overwhelming to happen anyway.
The courts are not overwhelmed with Tren de Aragua members. You're taking Trump's metaphorical gang "invasion" (already a huge stretch) and conflating it with the alleged Democratic scheme to "invade" the country with left-leaning voters. But most immigrants fall under different laws with different rights and different burdens of proof from the AEA. Besides, the judge has made it clear that he has plenty of time for this case.
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Osodecentx said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

GrowlTowel said:

Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Anyone else notice Sam is ducking the fact that none of these judges established standing or immediate threat for the plaintiffs?

Anyone else notice Sam cannot name a single 'Republican' judge who ordered the Biden or Obama Administrations to spend money on a program or agency they wanted to cut?

Just call him Democrat Sam from now on.
Standing was never raised as an issue. Irreparable harm was established by the plaintiffs, in the opinion of the judge, and I don't know of any case where it was more obvious. Many detainees who were likely innocent are now caged in conditions that wouldn't be fit for animals, and there's no realistic hope for relief.

All because we couldn't wait a few days to punish us some brown people.
likely innocent? So we are randomly picking up innocent people and shipping them off? LoL

Go sit down
We're talking in some cases about victims of gang violence who had pending asylum claims.


Asylum claims are filed by persons outside the US that are trying to come to the US.

Nice try though.
See page 18 of the plaintiffs' memo, linked earlier.
So whatever the gang members claim we take as gospel but whatever ICE tells us we have to suspect as lies until proven beyond a shadow of a doubt? Interesting.
It's almost like there's this weird "presumption of innocence." If only we had some reasonable process to follow…some way of hearing the evidence so we wouldn't have to take it on faith.
No, it's more like you choose to believe violent illegal alien gang members over the arresting agents because you don't like Orange Man Bad.


Why not have a hearing?
Because it isn't part of the statute.
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Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

GrowlTowel said:

Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Anyone else notice Sam is ducking the fact that none of these judges established standing or immediate threat for the plaintiffs?

Anyone else notice Sam cannot name a single 'Republican' judge who ordered the Biden or Obama Administrations to spend money on a program or agency they wanted to cut?

Just call him Democrat Sam from now on.
Standing was never raised as an issue. Irreparable harm was established by the plaintiffs, in the opinion of the judge, and I don't know of any case where it was more obvious. Many detainees who were likely innocent are now caged in conditions that wouldn't be fit for animals, and there's no realistic hope for relief.

All because we couldn't wait a few days to punish us some brown people.
likely innocent? So we are randomly picking up innocent people and shipping them off? LoL

Go sit down
We're talking in some cases about victims of gang violence who had pending asylum claims.


Asylum claims are filed by persons outside the US that are trying to come to the US.

Nice try though.
See page 18 of the plaintiffs' memo, linked earlier.
So whatever the gang members claim we take as gospel but whatever ICE tells us we have to suspect as lies until proven beyond a shadow of a doubt? Interesting.
It's almost like there's this weird "presumption of innocence." If only we had some reasonable process to follow…some way of hearing the evidence so we wouldn't have to take it on faith.
No, it's more like you choose to believe violent illegal alien gang members over the arresting agents because you don't like Orange Man Bad.
I'm ready to hear evidence either way. That's what hearings are for. You believe whatever the government tells you to believe because Orange Man Good.

If this were Biden, you'd be shouting from the rooftops about how it was a shocking abuse of power and a danger to all of our liberties. And you'd be right. A huge hypocrite, but still absolutely right.
No, I am pretty sure if Biden had ever given a **** about the country and started deporting criminals, not a sole on here would have *****ed out a note.
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Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Osodecentx said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

GrowlTowel said:

Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Anyone else notice Sam is ducking the fact that none of these judges established standing or immediate threat for the plaintiffs?

Anyone else notice Sam cannot name a single 'Republican' judge who ordered the Biden or Obama Administrations to spend money on a program or agency they wanted to cut?

Just call him Democrat Sam from now on.
Standing was never raised as an issue. Irreparable harm was established by the plaintiffs, in the opinion of the judge, and I don't know of any case where it was more obvious. Many detainees who were likely innocent are now caged in conditions that wouldn't be fit for animals, and there's no realistic hope for relief.

All because we couldn't wait a few days to punish us some brown people.
likely innocent? So we are randomly picking up innocent people and shipping them off? LoL

Go sit down
We're talking in some cases about victims of gang violence who had pending asylum claims.


Asylum claims are filed by persons outside the US that are trying to come to the US.

Nice try though.
See page 18 of the plaintiffs' memo, linked earlier.
So whatever the gang members claim we take as gospel but whatever ICE tells us we have to suspect as lies until proven beyond a shadow of a doubt? Interesting.
It's almost like there's this weird "presumption of innocence." If only we had some reasonable process to follow…some way of hearing the evidence so we wouldn't have to take it on faith.
No, it's more like you choose to believe violent illegal alien gang members over the arresting agents because you don't like Orange Man Bad.


Why not have a hearing?
When the idea behind the invasion is to overwhelm the courts and be set free while awaiting trial, it becomes suicidal to ignore such designs and allow that overwhelming to happen anyway.
The courts are not overwhelmed with Tren de Aragua members. You're taking Trump's metaphorical gang "invasion" (already a huge stretch) and conflating it with the alleged Democratic scheme to "invade" the country with left-leaning voters. But most immigrants fall under different laws with different rights and different burdens of proof from the AEA. Besides, the judge has made it clear that he has plenty of time for this case.
Yes I'm sure an activist Obama judge WOULD say that. The fact is we saw unprecedented levels of ILLEGAL immigration. Claiming each person who manages to swim the river deserves a day in court is suicide for an immigration system. Because of the backlog and unprecedented levels of illegal aliens flooding our country with the aid and direction of democrats, we now must expedite the most dangerous criminals. I know I know, it's racist to think the people you assume are brown should be beholden to the law and all that bull ****, but your emotions and race card are meaningless in the face of the facts here. You have ZERO numbers that disprove the reports of massive amounts of gang members that took advantage of Biden's open border. You get that right? We all saw the apartment complexes being taken over. We can all use Google to find the reported number of illegals that flooded our country under Biden. But stuck with your "nuh uh!" and "facts are racist!" defense. Surely that will convince someone that our eyes are liars.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

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Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Osodecentx said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

GrowlTowel said:

Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Anyone else notice Sam is ducking the fact that none of these judges established standing or immediate threat for the plaintiffs?

Anyone else notice Sam cannot name a single 'Republican' judge who ordered the Biden or Obama Administrations to spend money on a program or agency they wanted to cut?

Just call him Democrat Sam from now on.
Standing was never raised as an issue. Irreparable harm was established by the plaintiffs, in the opinion of the judge, and I don't know of any case where it was more obvious. Many detainees who were likely innocent are now caged in conditions that wouldn't be fit for animals, and there's no realistic hope for relief.

All because we couldn't wait a few days to punish us some brown people.
likely innocent? So we are randomly picking up innocent people and shipping them off? LoL

Go sit down
We're talking in some cases about victims of gang violence who had pending asylum claims.


Asylum claims are filed by persons outside the US that are trying to come to the US.

Nice try though.
See page 18 of the plaintiffs' memo, linked earlier.
So whatever the gang members claim we take as gospel but whatever ICE tells us we have to suspect as lies until proven beyond a shadow of a doubt? Interesting.
It's almost like there's this weird "presumption of innocence." If only we had some reasonable process to follow…some way of hearing the evidence so we wouldn't have to take it on faith.
No, it's more like you choose to believe violent illegal alien gang members over the arresting agents because you don't like Orange Man Bad.


Why not have a hearing?
When the idea behind the invasion is to overwhelm the courts and be set free while awaiting trial, it becomes suicidal to ignore such designs and allow that overwhelming to happen anyway.
The courts are not overwhelmed with Tren de Aragua members. You're taking Trump's metaphorical gang "invasion" (already a huge stretch) and conflating it with the alleged Democratic scheme to "invade" the country with left-leaning voters. But most immigrants fall under different laws with different rights and different burdens of proof from the AEA. Besides, the judge has made it clear that he has plenty of time for this case.
Yes I'm sure an activist Obama judge WOULD say that. The fact is we saw unprecedented levels of ILLEGAL immigration. Claiming each person who manages to swim the river deserves a day in court is suicide for an immigration system. Because of the backlog and unprecedented levels of illegal aliens flooding our country with the aid and direction of democrats, we now must expedite the most dangerous criminals. I know I know, it's racist to think the people you assume are brown should be beholden to the law and all that bull ****, but your emotions and race card are meaningless in the face of the facts here. You have ZERO numbers that disprove the reports of massive amounts of gang members that took advantage of Biden's open border. You get that right? We all saw the apartment complexes being taken over. We can all use Google to find the reported number of illegals that flooded our country under Biden. But stuck with your "nuh uh!" and "facts are racist!" defense. Surely that will convince someone that our eyes are liars.
You forgot to add, the Tesla attacks are simply Democrat campers who were toasting marshmallows over open fire and it got a little out of hand
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Assassin said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Osodecentx said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

GrowlTowel said:

Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Anyone else notice Sam is ducking the fact that none of these judges established standing or immediate threat for the plaintiffs?

Anyone else notice Sam cannot name a single 'Republican' judge who ordered the Biden or Obama Administrations to spend money on a program or agency they wanted to cut?

Just call him Democrat Sam from now on.
Standing was never raised as an issue. Irreparable harm was established by the plaintiffs, in the opinion of the judge, and I don't know of any case where it was more obvious. Many detainees who were likely innocent are now caged in conditions that wouldn't be fit for animals, and there's no realistic hope for relief.

All because we couldn't wait a few days to punish us some brown people.
likely innocent? So we are randomly picking up innocent people and shipping them off? LoL

Go sit down
We're talking in some cases about victims of gang violence who had pending asylum claims.


Asylum claims are filed by persons outside the US that are trying to come to the US.

Nice try though.
See page 18 of the plaintiffs' memo, linked earlier.
So whatever the gang members claim we take as gospel but whatever ICE tells us we have to suspect as lies until proven beyond a shadow of a doubt? Interesting.
It's almost like there's this weird "presumption of innocence." If only we had some reasonable process to follow…some way of hearing the evidence so we wouldn't have to take it on faith.
No, it's more like you choose to believe violent illegal alien gang members over the arresting agents because you don't like Orange Man Bad.


Why not have a hearing?
When the idea behind the invasion is to overwhelm the courts and be set free while awaiting trial, it becomes suicidal to ignore such designs and allow that overwhelming to happen anyway.
The courts are not overwhelmed with Tren de Aragua members. You're taking Trump's metaphorical gang "invasion" (already a huge stretch) and conflating it with the alleged Democratic scheme to "invade" the country with left-leaning voters. But most immigrants fall under different laws with different rights and different burdens of proof from the AEA. Besides, the judge has made it clear that he has plenty of time for this case.
Yes I'm sure an activist Obama judge WOULD say that. The fact is we saw unprecedented levels of ILLEGAL immigration. Claiming each person who manages to swim the river deserves a day in court is suicide for an immigration system. Because of the backlog and unprecedented levels of illegal aliens flooding our country with the aid and direction of democrats, we now must expedite the most dangerous criminals. I know I know, it's racist to think the people you assume are brown should be beholden to the law and all that bull ****, but your emotions and race card are meaningless in the face of the facts here. You have ZERO numbers that disprove the reports of massive amounts of gang members that took advantage of Biden's open border. You get that right? We all saw the apartment complexes being taken over. We can all use Google to find the reported number of illegals that flooded our country under Biden. But stuck with your "nuh uh!" and "facts are racist!" defense. Surely that will convince someone that our eyes are liars.
You forgot to add, the Tesla attacks are simply Democrat campers who were toasting marshmallows over open fire and it got a little out of hand
His entire argument is based on believing the word of the violent gang member over that of border patrol and ICE. "Well since I don't believe ICE..."
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Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Osodecentx said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

GrowlTowel said:

Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Anyone else notice Sam is ducking the fact that none of these judges established standing or immediate threat for the plaintiffs?

Anyone else notice Sam cannot name a single 'Republican' judge who ordered the Biden or Obama Administrations to spend money on a program or agency they wanted to cut?

Just call him Democrat Sam from now on.
Standing was never raised as an issue. Irreparable harm was established by the plaintiffs, in the opinion of the judge, and I don't know of any case where it was more obvious. Many detainees who were likely innocent are now caged in conditions that wouldn't be fit for animals, and there's no realistic hope for relief.

All because we couldn't wait a few days to punish us some brown people.
likely innocent? So we are randomly picking up innocent people and shipping them off? LoL

Go sit down
We're talking in some cases about victims of gang violence who had pending asylum claims.


Asylum claims are filed by persons outside the US that are trying to come to the US.

Nice try though.
See page 18 of the plaintiffs' memo, linked earlier.
So whatever the gang members claim we take as gospel but whatever ICE tells us we have to suspect as lies until proven beyond a shadow of a doubt? Interesting.
It's almost like there's this weird "presumption of innocence." If only we had some reasonable process to follow…some way of hearing the evidence so we wouldn't have to take it on faith.
No, it's more like you choose to believe violent illegal alien gang members over the arresting agents because you don't like Orange Man Bad.


Why not have a hearing?
When the idea behind the invasion is to overwhelm the courts and be set free while awaiting trial, it becomes suicidal to ignore such designs and allow that overwhelming to happen anyway.
The courts are not overwhelmed with Tren de Aragua members. You're taking Trump's metaphorical gang "invasion" (already a huge stretch) and conflating it with the alleged Democratic scheme to "invade" the country with left-leaning voters. But most immigrants fall under different laws with different rights and different burdens of proof from the AEA. Besides, the judge has made it clear that he has plenty of time for this case.
Yes I'm sure an activist Obama judge WOULD say that. The fact is we saw unprecedented levels of ILLEGAL immigration. Claiming each person who manages to swim the river deserves a day in court is suicide for an immigration system. Because of the backlog and unprecedented levels of illegal aliens flooding our country with the aid and direction of democrats, we now must expedite the most dangerous criminals. I know I know, it's racist to think the people you assume are brown should be beholden to the law and all that bull ****, but your emotions and race card are meaningless in the face of the facts here. You have ZERO numbers that disprove the reports of massive amounts of gang members that took advantage of Biden's open border. You get that right? We all saw the apartment complexes being taken over. We can all use Google to find the reported number of illegals that flooded our country under Biden. But stuck with your "nuh uh!" and "facts are racist!" defense. Surely that will convince someone that our eyes are liars.
We already have an expedited process under the INA. What's wrong with that? What is it that makes you Trumpians so keen to give The Leader unprecedented war powers in peacetime?
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Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Osodecentx said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

GrowlTowel said:

Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Anyone else notice Sam is ducking the fact that none of these judges established standing or immediate threat for the plaintiffs?

Anyone else notice Sam cannot name a single 'Republican' judge who ordered the Biden or Obama Administrations to spend money on a program or agency they wanted to cut?

Just call him Democrat Sam from now on.
Standing was never raised as an issue. Irreparable harm was established by the plaintiffs, in the opinion of the judge, and I don't know of any case where it was more obvious. Many detainees who were likely innocent are now caged in conditions that wouldn't be fit for animals, and there's no realistic hope for relief.

All because we couldn't wait a few days to punish us some brown people.
likely innocent? So we are randomly picking up innocent people and shipping them off? LoL

Go sit down
We're talking in some cases about victims of gang violence who had pending asylum claims.


Asylum claims are filed by persons outside the US that are trying to come to the US.

Nice try though.
See page 18 of the plaintiffs' memo, linked earlier.
So whatever the gang members claim we take as gospel but whatever ICE tells us we have to suspect as lies until proven beyond a shadow of a doubt? Interesting.
It's almost like there's this weird "presumption of innocence." If only we had some reasonable process to follow…some way of hearing the evidence so we wouldn't have to take it on faith.
No, it's more like you choose to believe violent illegal alien gang members over the arresting agents because you don't like Orange Man Bad.


Why not have a hearing?
When the idea behind the invasion is to overwhelm the courts and be set free while awaiting trial, it becomes suicidal to ignore such designs and allow that overwhelming to happen anyway.
The courts are not overwhelmed with Tren de Aragua members. You're taking Trump's metaphorical gang "invasion" (already a huge stretch) and conflating it with the alleged Democratic scheme to "invade" the country with left-leaning voters. But most immigrants fall under different laws with different rights and different burdens of proof from the AEA. Besides, the judge has made it clear that he has plenty of time for this case.
Yes I'm sure an activist Obama judge WOULD say that. The fact is we saw unprecedented levels of ILLEGAL immigration. Claiming each person who manages to swim the river deserves a day in court is suicide for an immigration system. Because of the backlog and unprecedented levels of illegal aliens flooding our country with the aid and direction of democrats, we now must expedite the most dangerous criminals. I know I know, it's racist to think the people you assume are brown should be beholden to the law and all that bull ****, but your emotions and race card are meaningless in the face of the facts here. You have ZERO numbers that disprove the reports of massive amounts of gang members that took advantage of Biden's open border. You get that right? We all saw the apartment complexes being taken over. We can all use Google to find the reported number of illegals that flooded our country under Biden. But stuck with your "nuh uh!" and "facts are racist!" defense. Surely that will convince someone that our eyes are liars.
We already have an expedited process under the INA. What's wrong with that? What is it that makes you Trumpians so keen to give The Leader unprecedented war powers in peacetime?
Probably the unprecedented numbers of illegals allowed to invade our country by you Bidophiles, ya think?
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When the left breaks tons of rules (border / immigration in this case) to overwhelm our culture, finances, and voters to try to acquire perpetual unchecked power... they intentionally make it impossible to fight them back by following all the rules. That is why I say if they are going to break all the rules creating the problem, I give zero ***** breaking all the rules to undo it.

This has been my gripe with republicans since I was old enough to vote... I voted for Trump so that he would win at all costs and defeat the evil that has taken power in this nation. Since they break all the rules (elections, immigration, NGOs, etc) I say ignore them at every single point to put them back in their place.

Stop fighting by the rules when the other side has NEVER fought by the rules. You are just a loser when you do that.
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Wangchung said:

Assassin said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Osodecentx said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

GrowlTowel said:

Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Anyone else notice Sam is ducking the fact that none of these judges established standing or immediate threat for the plaintiffs?

Anyone else notice Sam cannot name a single 'Republican' judge who ordered the Biden or Obama Administrations to spend money on a program or agency they wanted to cut?

Just call him Democrat Sam from now on.
Standing was never raised as an issue. Irreparable harm was established by the plaintiffs, in the opinion of the judge, and I don't know of any case where it was more obvious. Many detainees who were likely innocent are now caged in conditions that wouldn't be fit for animals, and there's no realistic hope for relief.

All because we couldn't wait a few days to punish us some brown people.
likely innocent? So we are randomly picking up innocent people and shipping them off? LoL

Go sit down
We're talking in some cases about victims of gang violence who had pending asylum claims.


Asylum claims are filed by persons outside the US that are trying to come to the US.

Nice try though.
See page 18 of the plaintiffs' memo, linked earlier.
So whatever the gang members claim we take as gospel but whatever ICE tells us we have to suspect as lies until proven beyond a shadow of a doubt? Interesting.
It's almost like there's this weird "presumption of innocence." If only we had some reasonable process to follow…some way of hearing the evidence so we wouldn't have to take it on faith.
No, it's more like you choose to believe violent illegal alien gang members over the arresting agents because you don't like Orange Man Bad.


Why not have a hearing?
When the idea behind the invasion is to overwhelm the courts and be set free while awaiting trial, it becomes suicidal to ignore such designs and allow that overwhelming to happen anyway.
The courts are not overwhelmed with Tren de Aragua members. You're taking Trump's metaphorical gang "invasion" (already a huge stretch) and conflating it with the alleged Democratic scheme to "invade" the country with left-leaning voters. But most immigrants fall under different laws with different rights and different burdens of proof from the AEA. Besides, the judge has made it clear that he has plenty of time for this case.
Yes I'm sure an activist Obama judge WOULD say that. The fact is we saw unprecedented levels of ILLEGAL immigration. Claiming each person who manages to swim the river deserves a day in court is suicide for an immigration system. Because of the backlog and unprecedented levels of illegal aliens flooding our country with the aid and direction of democrats, we now must expedite the most dangerous criminals. I know I know, it's racist to think the people you assume are brown should be beholden to the law and all that bull ****, but your emotions and race card are meaningless in the face of the facts here. You have ZERO numbers that disprove the reports of massive amounts of gang members that took advantage of Biden's open border. You get that right? We all saw the apartment complexes being taken over. We can all use Google to find the reported number of illegals that flooded our country under Biden. But stuck with your "nuh uh!" and "facts are racist!" defense. Surely that will convince someone that our eyes are liars.
You forgot to add, the Tesla attacks are simply Democrat campers who were toasting marshmallows over open fire and it got a little out of hand
His entire argument is based on believing the word of the violent gang member over that of border patrol and ICE. "Well since I don't believe ICE..."
My argument is that we should hear the evidence. For some reason you fear this.

Trump really brings out the statist in you folks.
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Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Assassin said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Osodecentx said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

GrowlTowel said:

Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Anyone else notice Sam is ducking the fact that none of these judges established standing or immediate threat for the plaintiffs?

Anyone else notice Sam cannot name a single 'Republican' judge who ordered the Biden or Obama Administrations to spend money on a program or agency they wanted to cut?

Just call him Democrat Sam from now on.
Standing was never raised as an issue. Irreparable harm was established by the plaintiffs, in the opinion of the judge, and I don't know of any case where it was more obvious. Many detainees who were likely innocent are now caged in conditions that wouldn't be fit for animals, and there's no realistic hope for relief.

All because we couldn't wait a few days to punish us some brown people.
likely innocent? So we are randomly picking up innocent people and shipping them off? LoL

Go sit down
We're talking in some cases about victims of gang violence who had pending asylum claims.


Asylum claims are filed by persons outside the US that are trying to come to the US.

Nice try though.
See page 18 of the plaintiffs' memo, linked earlier.
So whatever the gang members claim we take as gospel but whatever ICE tells us we have to suspect as lies until proven beyond a shadow of a doubt? Interesting.
It's almost like there's this weird "presumption of innocence." If only we had some reasonable process to follow…some way of hearing the evidence so we wouldn't have to take it on faith.
No, it's more like you choose to believe violent illegal alien gang members over the arresting agents because you don't like Orange Man Bad.


Why not have a hearing?
When the idea behind the invasion is to overwhelm the courts and be set free while awaiting trial, it becomes suicidal to ignore such designs and allow that overwhelming to happen anyway.
The courts are not overwhelmed with Tren de Aragua members. You're taking Trump's metaphorical gang "invasion" (already a huge stretch) and conflating it with the alleged Democratic scheme to "invade" the country with left-leaning voters. But most immigrants fall under different laws with different rights and different burdens of proof from the AEA. Besides, the judge has made it clear that he has plenty of time for this case.
Yes I'm sure an activist Obama judge WOULD say that. The fact is we saw unprecedented levels of ILLEGAL immigration. Claiming each person who manages to swim the river deserves a day in court is suicide for an immigration system. Because of the backlog and unprecedented levels of illegal aliens flooding our country with the aid and direction of democrats, we now must expedite the most dangerous criminals. I know I know, it's racist to think the people you assume are brown should be beholden to the law and all that bull ****, but your emotions and race card are meaningless in the face of the facts here. You have ZERO numbers that disprove the reports of massive amounts of gang members that took advantage of Biden's open border. You get that right? We all saw the apartment complexes being taken over. We can all use Google to find the reported number of illegals that flooded our country under Biden. But stuck with your "nuh uh!" and "facts are racist!" defense. Surely that will convince someone that our eyes are liars.
You forgot to add, the Tesla attacks are simply Democrat campers who were toasting marshmallows over open fire and it got a little out of hand
His entire argument is based on believing the word of the violent gang member over that of border patrol and ICE. "Well since I don't believe ICE..."
My argument is that we should hear the evidence. For some reason you fear this.

Trump really brings out the statist in you folks.


Evidence is irrelevant. If it is a leftist judge, they will just get released ... to go eventually vote democrat or make babies that will.
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Sam Lowry said:

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Assassin said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

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Oldbear83 said:

Anyone else notice Sam is ducking the fact that none of these judges established standing or immediate threat for the plaintiffs?

Anyone else notice Sam cannot name a single 'Republican' judge who ordered the Biden or Obama Administrations to spend money on a program or agency they wanted to cut?

Just call him Democrat Sam from now on.
Standing was never raised as an issue. Irreparable harm was established by the plaintiffs, in the opinion of the judge, and I don't know of any case where it was more obvious. Many detainees who were likely innocent are now caged in conditions that wouldn't be fit for animals, and there's no realistic hope for relief.

All because we couldn't wait a few days to punish us some brown people.
likely innocent? So we are randomly picking up innocent people and shipping them off? LoL

Go sit down
We're talking in some cases about victims of gang violence who had pending asylum claims.


Asylum claims are filed by persons outside the US that are trying to come to the US.

Nice try though.
See page 18 of the plaintiffs' memo, linked earlier.
So whatever the gang members claim we take as gospel but whatever ICE tells us we have to suspect as lies until proven beyond a shadow of a doubt? Interesting.
It's almost like there's this weird "presumption of innocence." If only we had some reasonable process to follow…some way of hearing the evidence so we wouldn't have to take it on faith.
No, it's more like you choose to believe violent illegal alien gang members over the arresting agents because you don't like Orange Man Bad.


Why not have a hearing?
When the idea behind the invasion is to overwhelm the courts and be set free while awaiting trial, it becomes suicidal to ignore such designs and allow that overwhelming to happen anyway.
The courts are not overwhelmed with Tren de Aragua members. You're taking Trump's metaphorical gang "invasion" (already a huge stretch) and conflating it with the alleged Democratic scheme to "invade" the country with left-leaning voters. But most immigrants fall under different laws with different rights and different burdens of proof from the AEA. Besides, the judge has made it clear that he has plenty of time for this case.
Yes I'm sure an activist Obama judge WOULD say that. The fact is we saw unprecedented levels of ILLEGAL immigration. Claiming each person who manages to swim the river deserves a day in court is suicide for an immigration system. Because of the backlog and unprecedented levels of illegal aliens flooding our country with the aid and direction of democrats, we now must expedite the most dangerous criminals. I know I know, it's racist to think the people you assume are brown should be beholden to the law and all that bull ****, but your emotions and race card are meaningless in the face of the facts here. You have ZERO numbers that disprove the reports of massive amounts of gang members that took advantage of Biden's open border. You get that right? We all saw the apartment complexes being taken over. We can all use Google to find the reported number of illegals that flooded our country under Biden. But stuck with your "nuh uh!" and "facts are racist!" defense. Surely that will convince someone that our eyes are liars.
You forgot to add, the Tesla attacks are simply Democrat campers who were toasting marshmallows over open fire and it got a little out of hand
His entire argument is based on believing the word of the violent gang member over that of border patrol and ICE. "Well since I don't believe ICE..."
My argument is that we should hear the evidence. For some reason you fear this.

Trump really brings out the statist in you folks.
What criteria do you think their arresting officers used to make the determination they should be arrested? What criteria do you think the detectives looking into their cases used to designate them as gang members? Your own ignorance of the evidence is no evidence of absence of evidence.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

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Now there's some Sam-grade projection right there.

Sam loves him some big-time bureaucracy, but anyone trying to shrink government abuse is a "statist" in SamLand.
 
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