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I have seen numerous articles with factual support that state Garcia was an MS-13 gang member.

https://ijr.com/doj-releases-full-dossier-of-evidence-that-abrego-garcia-was-ms-13/

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Yay. Present that in court. That's where the state gets to take advantage of due process and have their opportunity to be heard.

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It was. Twice.

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Democrat logic. It doesn't count until they win.

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Redbrickbear said:

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gtownbear said:

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Please tell me what the advantage is in keeping 20,000,000 illegals here to the United States. How do they put the country in a better position?

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We all know the answer to this....


It keeps wages low (something big business interests like)

It changes the demographic make up of the USA (something liberals like for cultural reasons and for the prospect that these people might one day become a democratic voting bloc and deliver their party a permanent electoral majority for good)

Conservatives (white supremacist) hate this idea. They want them disenfranchised .

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Spoiler:

It isn't possible to disenfranchise people that don't have the right to vote.

Second Spoiler:

You again prove yourself a liar as you consistently deny being a name caller even as you post that conservatives are white supremacists.

Third Spoiler:

Border control and stopping illegal immigration easily polls above 50% with both Latino and African American voters. Are they also included in your White Supremacist name calling?

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Black and Brown Supremacists?

The new Democrat Party cannot keep winning elections as repeat voters turn away from destructive policies, so they must import new grievance groups and pay them to get votes (and possibly add illegal voters).

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The new Democrat Party cannot keep winning elections as repeat voters turn away from destructive policies, so they must import new grievance groups and pay them to get votes (and possibly add illegal voters).

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The Soros Party. Bought and paid for

Interesting take on the two judges arrested for aiding illegal aliens:

My $.02 on the Judicial Insurrection

https://hotair.com/david-strom/2025/04/25/my-02-on-the-judicial-insurrection-n3802140

Will this be the approach taken for federal judges who are unconstitutionally (& treasonously) attempting to control the presidency in areas outside their jurisdiction, such as trying to bring terrorists into the U.S.?

Wild! Attorney General Pam Bondi explains what really happened with Milwaukee Judge Hannah Dugan that led to her arrest by FBI:

"The Judge learns that ICE was outside to get the guy, because he had been deported in 2013, came back into our country, charged with committing these… pic.twitter.com/Af7a1JdJR4

— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) April 25, 2025

Just look at what some of these judges are doing. The judge in Wisconsin was actually assisting the illegal while ICE agents were in the hall waiting to take him into custody. He had assault charges and would have been deported. That means this judge was obstructing justice.

Next the upstanding judge in New Mexico who had the gang member living at his home. It is said the judge and his daughter provided him rifles and sent him to the gun range to learn how to be proficient in shooting them. Also the judge beat his cell phone with a hammer and took the pieces to the dump.

I refer you to what I recently said about some of these judges. A judge is only as good as the character of the individual putting on the black robe. These two judges if convicted are guilty criminals blatantly breaking our laws we rely on them sit in judgement on. Someone better clean house in the judiciary before we lose our justice system. And who appointed 95% of these judges? Oh yeah, Obama and Biden, I almost forgot.

Assassin said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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gtownbear said:

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Please tell me what the advantage is in keeping 20,000,000 illegals here to the United States. How do they put the country in a better position?

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We all know the answer to this....


It keeps wages low (something big business interests like)

It changes the demographic make up of the USA (something liberals like for cultural reasons and for the prospect that these people might one day become a democratic voting bloc and deliver their party a permanent electoral majority for good)

Conservatives (white supremacist) hate this idea. They want them disenfranchised .

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Spoiler:

It isn't possible to disenfranchise people that don't have the right to vote.

Second Spoiler:

You again prove yourself a liar as you consistently deny being a name caller even as you post that conservatives are white supremacists.

Third Spoiler:

Border control and stopping illegal immigration easily polls above 50% with both Latino and African American voters. Are they also included in your White Supremacist name calling?

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Black and Brown Supremacists?

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The media figured out that Black and Hispanic men are moving more conservative politically

So now they are feverishly working to create a narrative around "multiracial fascism" and "multicultural nazism"

The Left can not be parodied

Redbrickbear said:

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Assassin said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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gtownbear said:

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Please tell me what the advantage is in keeping 20,000,000 illegals here to the United States. How do they put the country in a better position?

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We all know the answer to this....


It keeps wages low (something big business interests like)

It changes the demographic make up of the USA (something liberals like for cultural reasons and for the prospect that these people might one day become a democratic voting bloc and deliver their party a permanent electoral majority for good)

Conservatives (white supremacist) hate this idea. They want them disenfranchised .

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Spoiler:

It isn't possible to disenfranchise people that don't have the right to vote.

Second Spoiler:

You again prove yourself a liar as you consistently deny being a name caller even as you post that conservatives are white supremacists.

Third Spoiler:

Border control and stopping illegal immigration easily polls above 50% with both Latino and African American voters. Are they also included in your White Supremacist name calling?

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Black and Brown Supremacists?

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The media figured out that Black and Hispanic men are moving more conservative politically

So now they are feverishly working to create a narrative around "multiracial fascism" and "multicultural nazism"

The Left can not be parodied

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Propaganda is the game these days. This is the age of altered information aiming to kill common sense.

The people who haven't figured out that democrats are and have been actively at war with the rest of America are absolute morons. Open borders, sexualizing children, attacking the normal hetero marriage as oppressive, cheering on rioters and murderers, dividing us by every means possible be it race, sex or sexual preference, supporting forever wars and demanding government mandates for experimental vaccines while demonizing white straight Christians...the signs are all there.

Wangchung said:

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The people who haven't figured out that democrats are and have been actively at war with the rest of America are absolute morons. Open borders, sexualizing children, attacking the normal hetero marriage as oppressive, cheering on rioters and murderers, dividing us by every means possible be it race, sex or sexual preference, supporting forever wars and demanding government mandates for experimental vaccines while demonizing white straight Christians...the signs are all there.

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Mostly true, all irrelevant.

If anything it's all the more reason we need a real conservative party and not this bunch of clowns.

Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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The people who haven't figured out that democrats are and have been actively at war with the rest of America are absolute morons. Open borders, sexualizing children, attacking the normal hetero marriage as oppressive, cheering on rioters and murderers, dividing us by every means possible be it race, sex or sexual preference, supporting forever wars and demanding government mandates for experimental vaccines while demonizing white straight Christians...the signs are all there.

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Mostly true, all irrelevant.

If anything it's all the more reason we need a real conservative party and not this bunch of clowns.

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If you think what Wangchung posted is mostly true, then it is certainly not irrelevant no matter how much you want it to be

Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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The people who haven't figured out that democrats are and have been actively at war with the rest of America are absolute morons. Open borders, sexualizing children, attacking the normal hetero marriage as oppressive, cheering on rioters and murderers, dividing us by every means possible be it race, sex or sexual preference, supporting forever wars and demanding government mandates for experimental vaccines while demonizing white straight Christians...the signs are all there.

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Mostly true, all irrelevant.

If anything it's all the more reason we need a real conservative party and not this bunch of clowns.

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Bro, I freely admit most politicians of any stripe are corrupt. Only one side is actively attacking America on all fronts. The corrupt Republicans are out to enrich themselves.
The corrupt democrats are waging a war.

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Garcia is a known MS-13 gang member. An immigration court judge and an immigration appeals court judge both said he was. Just because you wish to believe he is not does not make it so. Does that answer your question? Further he beat his wife and was caught by Tennessee Law Enforcement transporting several illegals from Texas and they had no luggage. The officer thought he was mixed up in human trafficking. This is who you are defending, saying he needs more due process. You just want more judge shopping until you get a radical who will declare him innocent of everything and release him into our communities to criminalize more innocent legal Americans. No thanks.

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Wait, we aren't on the same page. Earlier you were talking about all the deportations, and you were complaining about the judges pausing them for due process. I am asking you about that. Why do you protest the rule of law, when you say you are for the rule of law?

We are actually in agreement on Garcia, so don't throw it out as a red herring. Answer the question or don't, but don't pretend the question was different so you can avoid it.

Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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The GOP is a full-on fascist cult at this point. Sad to see..

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Buddy please read something about real fascism

The GOP in America is nothing of the kind

It is absolutely opposed to government control of all aspects of the economy and totally opposed to totalitarian thought control

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It's controlling aspects of the economy and deporting people for thought crimes right now.

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Every government exerts some influence on the economy

(Yes tariffs are an example of this)

That does not make the modern USA, UK, France, or others like them "Fascist"

And sending illegals home for any reason is not "thought crime" its simple good policy

Both Fascism and Communism required citizens to believe what the party believed or face death or imprisonment and both wanted total control of the economy in a top down controlled socialist way

The modern Republican party is NOTHING like that nor does it advocate for those ideas

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I don't think tariffs are fascist. I'm just going along with the nit-picky definitions game that everyone likes to play whenever the term comes up.

Deporting legally resident grad students for having the wrong opinions on Israel and Hamas is a different matter.

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When "having the wrong opinions" means leading violent actions against Jewish students and taking over campus buildings, yes, time to revoke that visitors visa.

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Some of these people actually peacefully protested. Very few took part in violence or encouraged it.

So maybe answer the only thing that matters, are you for what is happening to people who peacefully protested?

Nobody is upset when a violent criminal gets punished, so stop it with that.

gtownbear said:

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I believe we can blame the Supreme Court for their lack of supervision over these district court judges whose rulings and injunctions are stifling President Trump in carrying out his mandate from the people. Then Chief Justice Roberts public statement over Trump talking impeachment for some judges added fuel to the fire. Then their 7-2 decision where they stopped the President's from removing gang members and criminals under the Alien Enemies Act.

All of these actions I believe have emboldened these radical, leftist judges who have no honor to the law. Their only goal is to stop Trump from delivering for the American people. Face it, the Supreme Court, with a supposed 6-3 conservative advantage, should want these illegals removed from the country, or certainly the gang members and criminals as much as some of us here do. Now they could say that at some point in the future, but they are sure throwing sand in the gears with their above actions.

Now we have these district court judges from all over the country issuing injunctions and rulings against every action President Trump takes. Simply put, democrats will not allow us to govern when we win elections. They just ignore our laws and policies. My examples would be sanctuary cities and states, radical district court judges injunctions and rulings, and Soros backed District Attorneys in blue cities refusing to prosecute many criminals.

My faith in the Judicial Branch is becoming less with each passing day.

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I see, you are just not capable of rationality in this discussion. To act like the conservative justices should want the same thing you want, and just make it happen, tells me what I need to know. Not only do you have conflicting statements regarding the rule of law, you don't want it to even exist unless it is laws you agree with.

You are part off the large scale partisan hackery that has taken over the country. You tribal zealots want to ruin the country just so your tribe can win.

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I have seen numerous articles with factual support that state Garcia was an MS-13 gang member.

https://ijr.com/doj-releases-full-dossier-of-evidence-that-abrego-garcia-was-ms-13/

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There is zero doubt Garcia was MS13. Even El Salvador said he was MS13. Salvadorians formed MS13. They should know

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That might be good enough for you, but "El Salvador says so" is quite obviously not enough in a court of law here. I also recognize he's probably in the gang, it's just a weird thing to act like everything El Salvador says is facts.

EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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The people who haven't figured out that democrats are and have been actively at war with the rest of America are absolute morons. Open borders, sexualizing children, attacking the normal hetero marriage as oppressive, cheering on rioters and murderers, dividing us by every means possible be it race, sex or sexual preference, supporting forever wars and demanding government mandates for experimental vaccines while demonizing white straight Christians...the signs are all there.

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Mostly true, all irrelevant.

If anything it's all the more reason we need a real conservative party and not this bunch of clowns.

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If you think what Wangchung posted is mostly true, then it is certainly not irrelevant no matter how much you want it to be

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It's a list of cultural and political grievances, most of which I agree with. It does not justify Trump's attacks on the rule of law in any way. Nothing good will come of that.

"Denver dad" arrested by ICE today 💔 pic.twitter.com/YHPvVZ5Djr

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) April 25, 2025

ICE Agents Arrest Illegal Alien in Virginia Moments After Judge Dismisses Case.

What is your reaction? pic.twitter.com/xjyuiGvAIf

— AmericanPapaBear (@AmericaPapaBear) April 24, 2025

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"Denver dad" arrested by ICE today 💔 pic.twitter.com/YHPvVZ5Djr

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) April 25, 2025

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Tell me there's more to this tweet than you wanting this guy deported for having face tatos.

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Assassin said:

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"Denver dad" arrested by ICE today 💔 pic.twitter.com/YHPvVZ5Djr

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) April 25, 2025

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Tell me there's more to this tweet than you wanting this guy deported for having face tatos.

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Do your own homework

Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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The people who haven't figured out that democrats are and have been actively at war with the rest of America are absolute morons. Open borders, sexualizing children, attacking the normal hetero marriage as oppressive, cheering on rioters and murderers, dividing us by every means possible be it race, sex or sexual preference, supporting forever wars and demanding government mandates for experimental vaccines while demonizing white straight Christians...the signs are all there.

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Mostly true, all irrelevant.

If anything it's all the more reason we need a real conservative party and not this bunch of clowns.

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Bro, I freely admit most politicians of any stripe are corrupt. Only one side is actively attacking America on all fronts. The corrupt Republicans are out to enrich themselves.
The corrupt democrats are waging a war.

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When you're assaulting Congress and arresting judges, you are waging war in a much more literal way than most of what the Democrats are doing. And I don't like most of what the Democrats are doing.

Keep hating illegals and liberals more than you love the Constitution, and pretty soon you're not going to have a Constitution.

Porteroso said:

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Assassin said:

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"Denver dad" arrested by ICE today 💔 pic.twitter.com/YHPvVZ5Djr

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) April 25, 2025

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Tell me there's more to this tweet than you wanting this guy deported for having face tatos.

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Face tattoos are a good reason for deportation…

Even citizens in that case

Porteroso said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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The GOP is a full-on fascist cult at this point. Sad to see..

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Buddy please read something about real fascism

The GOP in America is nothing of the kind

It is absolutely opposed to government control of all aspects of the economy and totally opposed to totalitarian thought control

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It's controlling aspects of the economy and deporting people for thought crimes right now.

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Every government exerts some influence on the economy

(Yes tariffs are an example of this)

That does not make the modern USA, UK, France, or others like them "Fascist"

And sending illegals home for any reason is not "thought crime" its simple good policy

Both Fascism and Communism required citizens to believe what the party believed or face death or imprisonment and both wanted total control of the economy in a top down controlled socialist way

The modern Republican party is NOTHING like that nor does it advocate for those ideas

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I don't think tariffs are fascist. I'm just going along with the nit-picky definitions game that everyone likes to play whenever the term comes up.

Deporting legally resident grad students for having the wrong opinions on Israel and Hamas is a different matter.

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When "having the wrong opinions" means leading violent actions against Jewish students and taking over campus buildings, yes, time to revoke that visitors visa.

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Some of these people actually peacefully protested. Very few took part in violence or encouraged it.

So maybe answer the only thing that matters, are you for what is happening to people who peacefully protested?

Nobody is upset when a violent criminal gets punished, so stop it with that.

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Being in the non-violent section of a violent mob isn't any kind of defense. Supporting terrorists is enough reason to send them home.

Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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The people who haven't figured out that democrats are and have been actively at war with the rest of America are absolute morons. Open borders, sexualizing children, attacking the normal hetero marriage as oppressive, cheering on rioters and murderers, dividing us by every means possible be it race, sex or sexual preference, supporting forever wars and demanding government mandates for experimental vaccines while demonizing white straight Christians...the signs are all there.

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Mostly true, all irrelevant.

If anything it's all the more reason we need a real conservative party and not this bunch of clowns.

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If you think what Wangchung posted is mostly true, then it is certainly not irrelevant no matter how much you want it to be

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It's a list of cultural and political grievances, most of which I agree with. It does not justify Trump's attacks on the rule of law in any way. Nothing good will come of that.

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It wasn't meant to be a defense of Trump. It's a statement on the current actions of democrats.

Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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The people who haven't figured out that democrats are and have been actively at war with the rest of America are absolute morons. Open borders, sexualizing children, attacking the normal hetero marriage as oppressive, cheering on rioters and murderers, dividing us by every means possible be it race, sex or sexual preference, supporting forever wars and demanding government mandates for experimental vaccines while demonizing white straight Christians...the signs are all there.

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Mostly true, all irrelevant.

If anything it's all the more reason we need a real conservative party and not this bunch of clowns.

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Bro, I freely admit most politicians of any stripe are corrupt. Only one side is actively attacking America on all fronts. The corrupt Republicans are out to enrich themselves.
The corrupt democrats are waging a war.

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When you're assaulting Congress and arresting judges, you are waging war in a much more literal way than most of what the Democrats are doing. And I don't like most of what the Democrats are doing.

Keep hating illegals and liberals more than you love the Constitution, and pretty soon you're not going to have a Constitution.

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No one is above the law. Not even corrupt judges. January 6th was a 3 hour event. Meanwhile...

Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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The people who haven't figured out that democrats are and have been actively at war with the rest of America are absolute morons. Open borders, sexualizing children, attacking the normal hetero marriage as oppressive, cheering on rioters and murderers, dividing us by every means possible be it race, sex or sexual preference, supporting forever wars and demanding government mandates for experimental vaccines while demonizing white straight Christians...the signs are all there.

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Mostly true, all irrelevant.

If anything it's all the more reason we need a real conservative party and not this bunch of clowns.

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If you think what Wangchung posted is mostly true, then it is certainly not irrelevant no matter how much you want it to be

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It's a list of cultural and political grievances, most of which I agree with. It does not justify Trump's attacks on the rule of law in any way. Nothing good will come of that.

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It wasn't meant to be a defense of Trump. It's a statement on the current actions of democrats.

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That's why it's irrelevant.

Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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The people who haven't figured out that democrats are and have been actively at war with the rest of America are absolute morons. Open borders, sexualizing children, attacking the normal hetero marriage as oppressive, cheering on rioters and murderers, dividing us by every means possible be it race, sex or sexual preference, supporting forever wars and demanding government mandates for experimental vaccines while demonizing white straight Christians...the signs are all there.

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Mostly true, all irrelevant.

If anything it's all the more reason we need a real conservative party and not this bunch of clowns.

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Bro, I freely admit most politicians of any stripe are corrupt. Only one side is actively attacking America on all fronts. The corrupt Republicans are out to enrich themselves.
The corrupt democrats are waging a war.

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When you're assaulting Congress and arresting judges, you are waging war in a much more literal way than most of what the Democrats are doing. And I don't like most of what the Democrats are doing.

Keep hating illegals and liberals more than you love the Constitution, and pretty soon you're not going to have a Constitution.

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No one is above the law. Not even corrupt judges. January 6th was a 3 hour event. Meanwhile...

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And again...

Wangchung said:

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Porteroso said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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The GOP is a full-on fascist cult at this point. Sad to see..

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Buddy please read something about real fascism

The GOP in America is nothing of the kind

It is absolutely opposed to government control of all aspects of the economy and totally opposed to totalitarian thought control

---

It's controlling aspects of the economy and deporting people for thought crimes right now.

---

Every government exerts some influence on the economy

(Yes tariffs are an example of this)

That does not make the modern USA, UK, France, or others like them "Fascist"

And sending illegals home for any reason is not "thought crime" its simple good policy

Both Fascism and Communism required citizens to believe what the party believed or face death or imprisonment and both wanted total control of the economy in a top down controlled socialist way

The modern Republican party is NOTHING like that nor does it advocate for those ideas

---

I don't think tariffs are fascist. I'm just going along with the nit-picky definitions game that everyone likes to play whenever the term comes up.

Deporting legally resident grad students for having the wrong opinions on Israel and Hamas is a different matter.

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When "having the wrong opinions" means leading violent actions against Jewish students and taking over campus buildings, yes, time to revoke that visitors visa.

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Some of these people actually peacefully protested. Very few took part in violence or encouraged it.

So maybe answer the only thing that matters, are you for what is happening to people who peacefully protested?

Nobody is upset when a violent criminal gets punished, so stop it with that.

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Being in the non-violent section of a violent mob isn't any kind of defense. Supporting terrorists is enough reason to send them home.

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LOL. Except on Jan. 6, amirite?

What I have said is there are good judges and bad judges which is the same as in all other trades and professions. Therefore it follows that if I am personally for removing the illegals beginning with the gang members, terrorists, and criminals who abuse and murder our law abiding American citizens, would I not agree with the judges that reached that conclusion. It happens that at the district court level, most of those issuing the injunctions against the actions of President Trump were appointed by Obama and Biden. They are also from district courts in deep blue cities and areas. Furthermore, the list of judges challenging every decision that Trump is making is growing which has the effect of preventing him from governing after being given a mandate by 77,000,000 voters.

These judges have moved from deportation of illegals to now every action that he takes. They are not the President nor do they represent the Executive Branch and they have overstepped their authority and the Supreme Court should put an end to it; sadly so far they refuse to which in my mind has encouraged more judicial misconduct.

We have had the County Judge in Wisconsin obstruct justice by sneaking an illegal out of her court rather than turning him over to ICE and the Judge in New Mexico who was arrested for housing a gang member and furnishing guns to him. Would you agree that is out of bounds? Criminal acts? Which is leading to elected officials in sanctuary cities that are breaking the law by not cooperating with ICE officials and agents. Will they be prosecuted in the future? I hope so.

So if I made some statement that confused the issue, it was simply a mistake. But my feelings on this issue and topic to me have been reasonably clear during the days I have entered this discussion. Millions came in wrongly for four years including many gang members, drug dealers, and hardened criminals. President Trump campaigned on removing the illegals beginning with the gang bangers and criminals and that is what he is attempting to do. There are good judges and bad judges. You are not automatically fair just because you put on a black robe. Many leftist judges put forth injunctions to stop President Trump from deporting the gang bangers and criminals. Mixed decisions came from the higher courts. Until the 7-2 Supreme Court decision saying Trump cannot use the Alien Enemies Act to deport the illegals from Northern Texas without another order from them.

I guess the easy, cheap way to get rid of these criminals is off the table for now until some other case or another law is used. I find it fascinating that most of these gang members and criminals have harmed and murdered American citizens but many insist on worrying about them. I don't.

That is my story and I'm stickin' to it.

Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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The people who haven't figured out that democrats are and have been actively at war with the rest of America are absolute morons. Open borders, sexualizing children, attacking the normal hetero marriage as oppressive, cheering on rioters and murderers, dividing us by every means possible be it race, sex or sexual preference, supporting forever wars and demanding government mandates for experimental vaccines while demonizing white straight Christians...the signs are all there.

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Mostly true, all irrelevant.

If anything it's all the more reason we need a real conservative party and not this bunch of clowns.

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If you think what Wangchung posted is mostly true, then it is certainly not irrelevant no matter how much you want it to be

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It's a list of cultural and political grievances, most of which I agree with. It does not justify Trump's attacks on the rule of law in any way. Nothing good will come of that.

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It wasn't meant to be a defense of Trump. It's a statement on the current actions of democrats.

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That's why it's irrelevant.

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No, it's relevant to the actions of activist judges. It's not meant as a defense of Trump. You drunk?

Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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The people who haven't figured out that democrats are and have been actively at war with the rest of America are absolute morons. Open borders, sexualizing children, attacking the normal hetero marriage as oppressive, cheering on rioters and murderers, dividing us by every means possible be it race, sex or sexual preference, supporting forever wars and demanding government mandates for experimental vaccines while demonizing white straight Christians...the signs are all there.

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Mostly true, all irrelevant.

If anything it's all the more reason we need a real conservative party and not this bunch of clowns.

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Bro, I freely admit most politicians of any stripe are corrupt. Only one side is actively attacking America on all fronts. The corrupt Republicans are out to enrich themselves.
The corrupt democrats are waging a war.

---

When you're assaulting Congress and arresting judges, you are waging war in a much more literal way than most of what the Democrats are doing. And I don't like most of what the Democrats are doing.

Keep hating illegals and liberals more than you love the Constitution, and pretty soon you're not going to have a Constitution.

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No one is above the law. Not even corrupt judges. January 6th was a 3 hour event. Meanwhile...

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And again...

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And again and again. Democrats stay violent and you're pissing your panties over a 3 hour unarmed temper tantrum where no one but a participant was killed.

Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Porteroso said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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The GOP is a full-on fascist cult at this point. Sad to see..

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Buddy please read something about real fascism

The GOP in America is nothing of the kind

It is absolutely opposed to government control of all aspects of the economy and totally opposed to totalitarian thought control

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It's controlling aspects of the economy and deporting people for thought crimes right now.

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Every government exerts some influence on the economy

(Yes tariffs are an example of this)

That does not make the modern USA, UK, France, or others like them "Fascist"

And sending illegals home for any reason is not "thought crime" its simple good policy

Both Fascism and Communism required citizens to believe what the party believed or face death or imprisonment and both wanted total control of the economy in a top down controlled socialist way

The modern Republican party is NOTHING like that nor does it advocate for those ideas

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I don't think tariffs are fascist. I'm just going along with the nit-picky definitions game that everyone likes to play whenever the term comes up.

Deporting legally resident grad students for having the wrong opinions on Israel and Hamas is a different matter.

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When "having the wrong opinions" means leading violent actions against Jewish students and taking over campus buildings, yes, time to revoke that visitors visa.

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Some of these people actually peacefully protested. Very few took part in violence or encouraged it.

So maybe answer the only thing that matters, are you for what is happening to people who peacefully protested?

Nobody is upset when a violent criminal gets punished, so stop it with that.

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Being in the non-violent section of a violent mob isn't any kind of defense. Supporting terrorists is enough reason to send them home.

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LOL. Except on Jan. 6, amirite?

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When the mob is unarmed and has over two dozen FBI assets in the crowd, things change. When the participants are US citizens, things change.

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The GOP is a full-on fascist cult at this point. Sad to see..

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Buddy please read something about real fascism

The GOP in America is nothing of the kind

It is absolutely opposed to government control of all aspects of the economy and totally opposed to totalitarian thought control

---

It's controlling aspects of the economy and deporting people for thought crimes right now.

---

Every government exerts some influence on the economy

(Yes tariffs are an example of this)

That does not make the modern USA, UK, France, or others like them "Fascist"

And sending illegals home for any reason is not "thought crime" its simple good policy

Both Fascism and Communism required citizens to believe what the party believed or face death or imprisonment and both wanted total control of the economy in a top down controlled socialist way

The modern Republican party is NOTHING like that nor does it advocate for those ideas

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I don't think tariffs are fascist. I'm just going along with the nit-picky definitions game that everyone likes to play whenever the term comes up.

Deporting legally resident grad students for having the wrong opinions on Israel and Hamas is a different matter.

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When "having the wrong opinions" means leading violent actions against Jewish students and taking over campus buildings, yes, time to revoke that visitors visa.

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Some of these people actually peacefully protested. Very few took part in violence or encouraged it.

So maybe answer the only thing that matters, are you for what is happening to people who peacefully protested?

Nobody is upset when a violent criminal gets punished, so stop it with that.

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Being in the non-violent section of a violent mob isn't any kind of defense. Supporting terrorists is enough reason to send them home.

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LOL. Except on Jan. 6, amirite?

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You are. That Anitfa/FBI mob was horrible. Luckily the Republicans didn't support them