North Korea Makes an Offer

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Golem
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So nothing. Got it.
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GolemIII said:

HuMcK said:

GolemIII said:

I bet you'd get a hard-on if Pearl Harbor happened again as long as it was under Trump.
That's pretty rich coming from the people who denigrated the Iran Deal and celebrated our unilateral withdrawal from it ( I wonder if that little stunt made a deal with NK more or less likely?). Your projection may be showing a little bit, because all I did was post a news link without commentary or opinion. I did warn y'all how this was probably gonna go, but y'all were too busy dreaming of a Nobel Peace Prize getting awarded to Trump to hear it...


How many hundreds of billions did Trump give Kim?
He returned Iran's money as part of a deal that Iran was living up to. That's the art of a deal. You give something; they give something. Trump has shown his willingness to give in exchange for getting. Maybe NK will demonstrate a willingness that goes beyond empty words. As Trump likes to say, "We'll see."
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bubbadog said:

GolemIII said:

HuMcK said:

GolemIII said:

I bet you'd get a hard-on if Pearl Harbor happened again as long as it was under Trump.
That's pretty rich coming from the people who denigrated the Iran Deal and celebrated our unilateral withdrawal from it ( I wonder if that little stunt made a deal with NK more or less likely?). Your projection may be showing a little bit, because all I did was post a news link without commentary or opinion. I did warn y'all how this was probably gonna go, but y'all were too busy dreaming of a Nobel Peace Prize getting awarded to Trump to hear it...


How many hundreds of billions did Trump give Kim?
He returned Iran's money as part of a deal that Iran was living up to. That's the art of a deal. You give something; they give something. Trump has shown his willingness to give in exchange for getting. Maybe NK will demonstrate a willingness that goes beyond empty words. As Trump likes to say, "We'll see."
And they used it to fund terrorism. You must be so proud.
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bubbadog said:

GolemIII said:

HuMcK said:

GolemIII said:

I bet you'd get a hard-on if Pearl Harbor happened again as long as it was under Trump.
That's pretty rich coming from the people who denigrated the Iran Deal and celebrated our unilateral withdrawal from it ( I wonder if that little stunt made a deal with NK more or less likely?). Your projection may be showing a little bit, because all I did was post a news link without commentary or opinion. I did warn y'all how this was probably gonna go, but y'all were too busy dreaming of a Nobel Peace Prize getting awarded to Trump to hear it...


How many hundreds of billions did Trump give Kim?
He returned Iran's money as part of a deal that Iran was living up to. That's the art of a deal. You give something; they give something. Trump has shown his willingness to give in exchange for getting. Maybe NK will demonstrate a willingness that goes beyond empty words. As Trump likes to say, "We'll see."
he tore up a great deal that was working while giving NK everything they want and getting nothing...

woooohoooo winning!!!!!!!!!
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it--always."

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Translation of the letter sent from Kim Jong Un to President Trump

Golem
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JusHappy2BeHere said:

bubbadog said:

GolemIII said:

HuMcK said:

GolemIII said:

I bet you'd get a hard-on if Pearl Harbor happened again as long as it was under Trump.
That's pretty rich coming from the people who denigrated the Iran Deal and celebrated our unilateral withdrawal from it ( I wonder if that little stunt made a deal with NK more or less likely?). Your projection may be showing a little bit, because all I did was post a news link without commentary or opinion. I did warn y'all how this was probably gonna go, but y'all were too busy dreaming of a Nobel Peace Prize getting awarded to Trump to hear it...


How many hundreds of billions did Trump give Kim?
He returned Iran's money as part of a deal that Iran was living up to. That's the art of a deal. You give something; they give something. Trump has shown his willingness to give in exchange for getting. Maybe NK will demonstrate a willingness that goes beyond empty words. As Trump likes to say, "We'll see."
he tore up a great deal that was working while giving NK everything they want and getting nothing...

woooohoooo winning!!!!!!!!!


1. What did he give DPRK?
2. What was working about Iran deal?
Mitch Blood Green
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Any here greet the remains with the many parents from the Korean War when they were returned?
Golem
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tommie said:

Any here great the remains with the many parents from the Korean War when they were returned?


Words order what sentence did use you?
bubbadog
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GolemIII said:

tommie said:

Any here great the remains with the many parents from the Korean War when they were returned?


Words order what sentence did use you?
Change the typo in "great" to "greet," and then the word order will be fine.
Golem
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bubbadog said:

GolemIII said:

tommie said:

Any here great the remains with the many parents from the Korean War when they were returned?


Words order what sentence did use you?
Change the typo in "great" to "greet," and then the word order will be fine.



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GolemIII said:

bubbadog said:

GolemIII said:

tommie said:

Any here great the remains with the many parents from the Korean War when they were returned?


Words order what sentence did use you?
Change the typo in "great" to "greet," and then the word order will be fine.




The joke was still good.
I intervened on behalf of those like Holliday and Florduh who would've scratched their heads for hours otherwise.
J.R.
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GolemIII said:

JusHappy2BeHere said:

bubbadog said:

GolemIII said:

HuMcK said:

GolemIII said:

I bet you'd get a hard-on if Pearl Harbor happened again as long as it was under Trump.
That's pretty rich coming from the people who denigrated the Iran Deal and celebrated our unilateral withdrawal from it ( I wonder if that little stunt made a deal with NK more or less likely?). Your projection may be showing a little bit, because all I did was post a news link without commentary or opinion. I did warn y'all how this was probably gonna go, but y'all were too busy dreaming of a Nobel Peace Prize getting awarded to Trump to hear it...


How many hundreds of billions did Trump give Kim?
He returned Iran's money as part of a deal that Iran was living up to. That's the art of a deal. You give something; they give something. Trump has shown his willingness to give in exchange for getting. Maybe NK will demonstrate a willingness that goes beyond empty words. As Trump likes to say, "We'll see."
he tore up a great deal that was working while giving NK everything they want and getting nothing...

woooohoooo winning!!!!!!!!!


1. What did he give DPRK?
2. What was working about Iran deal?
He gave the DPRK legitimacy on the woulds stage. Unacceptable. We quit our military exercises and got Zero in return. What a deal maker.
quash
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J.R. said:

GolemIII said:

JusHappy2BeHere said:

bubbadog said:

GolemIII said:

HuMcK said:

GolemIII said:

I bet you'd get a hard-on if Pearl Harbor happened again as long as it was under Trump.
That's pretty rich coming from the people who denigrated the Iran Deal and celebrated our unilateral withdrawal from it ( I wonder if that little stunt made a deal with NK more or less likely?). Your projection may be showing a little bit, because all I did was post a news link without commentary or opinion. I did warn y'all how this was probably gonna go, but y'all were too busy dreaming of a Nobel Peace Prize getting awarded to Trump to hear it...


How many hundreds of billions did Trump give Kim?
He returned Iran's money as part of a deal that Iran was living up to. That's the art of a deal. You give something; they give something. Trump has shown his willingness to give in exchange for getting. Maybe NK will demonstrate a willingness that goes beyond empty words. As Trump likes to say, "We'll see."
he tore up a great deal that was working while giving NK everything they want and getting nothing...

woooohoooo winning!!!!!!!!!


1. What did he give DPRK?
2. What was working about Iran deal?
He gave the DPRK legitimacy on the woulds stage. Unacceptable. We quit our military exercises and got Zero in return. What a deal maker.

Hey, we got four promises. The same four made to previous administrations and also broken.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
Golem
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J.R. said:

GolemIII said:

JusHappy2BeHere said:

bubbadog said:

GolemIII said:

HuMcK said:

GolemIII said:

I bet you'd get a hard-on if Pearl Harbor happened again as long as it was under Trump.
That's pretty rich coming from the people who denigrated the Iran Deal and celebrated our unilateral withdrawal from it ( I wonder if that little stunt made a deal with NK more or less likely?). Your projection may be showing a little bit, because all I did was post a news link without commentary or opinion. I did warn y'all how this was probably gonna go, but y'all were too busy dreaming of a Nobel Peace Prize getting awarded to Trump to hear it...


How many hundreds of billions did Trump give Kim?
He returned Iran's money as part of a deal that Iran was living up to. That's the art of a deal. You give something; they give something. Trump has shown his willingness to give in exchange for getting. Maybe NK will demonstrate a willingness that goes beyond empty words. As Trump likes to say, "We'll see."
he tore up a great deal that was working while giving NK everything they want and getting nothing...

woooohoooo winning!!!!!!!!!


1. What did he give DPRK?
2. What was working about Iran deal?
He gave the DPRK legitimacy on the woulds stage. Unacceptable. We quit our military exercises and got Zero in return. What a deal maker.


But he didn't, did he. People said he would, but to have legitimacy the world needs to see you as legit. You have to thus ACT legit as well to be seen that way. Trump just talked to him.

Does Kim have more legitimacy now? Nope. Thus he didn't get legitimized.
J.R.
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GolemIII said:

J.R. said:

GolemIII said:

JusHappy2BeHere said:

bubbadog said:

GolemIII said:

HuMcK said:

GolemIII said:

I bet you'd get a hard-on if Pearl Harbor happened again as long as it was under Trump.
That's pretty rich coming from the people who denigrated the Iran Deal and celebrated our unilateral withdrawal from it ( I wonder if that little stunt made a deal with NK more or less likely?). Your projection may be showing a little bit, because all I did was post a news link without commentary or opinion. I did warn y'all how this was probably gonna go, but y'all were too busy dreaming of a Nobel Peace Prize getting awarded to Trump to hear it...


How many hundreds of billions did Trump give Kim?
He returned Iran's money as part of a deal that Iran was living up to. That's the art of a deal. You give something; they give something. Trump has shown his willingness to give in exchange for getting. Maybe NK will demonstrate a willingness that goes beyond empty words. As Trump likes to say, "We'll see."
he tore up a great deal that was working while giving NK everything they want and getting nothing...

woooohoooo winning!!!!!!!!!


1. What did he give DPRK?
2. What was working about Iran deal?
He gave the DPRK legitimacy on the woulds stage. Unacceptable. We quit our military exercises and got Zero in return. What a deal maker.


But he didn't, did he. People said he would, but to have legitimacy the world needs to see you as legit. You have to thus ACT legit as well to be seen that way. Trump just talked to him.

Does Kim have more legitimacy now? Nope. Thus he didn't get legitimized.
Yes, he thinks he does. I'm just glad Kim laid down all his nukes like Trumps said he would. Ain't happening.
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GolemIII said:

I bet you'd get a hard-on if Pearl Harbor happened again as long as it was under Trump.

Another whiff. We want Trump to succeed with NK but so far NK has not lived up to expections.
But it's Trump insistence that a loss is somehow a huge win.
Trump said NK will de-nuclearize. But NK said "The Korean Peninsula will de-nuclearize." Meaning no US troops in SK. I want him to succeed -a de-nuclearized NK is a great win. But I don't want a pretend success.
Waco1947 ,la
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Waco1947 said:

GolemIII said:

I bet you'd get a hard-on if Pearl Harbor happened again as long as it was under Trump.

Another whiff. We want Trump to succeed with NK but so far NK has not lived up to expections.
But it's Trump insistence that a loss is somehow a huge win.
Trump said NK will de-nuclearize. But NK said "The Korean Peninsula will de-nuclearize." Meaning no US troops in SK. I want him to succeed -a de-nuclearized NK is a great win. But I don't want a pretend success.
He's had far more success so far than anyone before him. You shouldn't expect it overnight.

And quite frankly, I don't believe you because you jump with joy everytime you hear something might be wrong with our NK relationship.
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Waco1947 said:

GolemIII said:

I bet you'd get a hard-on if Pearl Harbor happened again as long as it was under Trump.

Another whiff. We want Trump to succeed with NK but so far NK has not lived up to expections.
But it's Trump insistence that a loss is somehow a huge win.
Trump said NK will de-nuclearize. But NK said "The Korean Peninsula will de-nuclearize." Meaning no US troops in SK. I want him to succeed -a de-nuclearized NK is a great win. But I don't want a pretend success.
so US has nukes in SK or you just using term as a colloquialism? IE- that arguement is about to go nuclear...
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tommie said:

Any here greet the remains with the many parents from the Korean War when they were returned?
Not likely to have too many Korean War parents alive today. Spouses, siblings, and children perhaps.
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ATL Bear said:

tommie said:

Any here greet the remains with the many parents from the Korean War when they were returned?
Not likely to have too many Korean War parents alive today. Spouses, siblings, and children perhaps.
The remains they were returning per the recent agreement involved an incident at the border much more recently than the Korean War. I read a story about the incident during Trump's trip to Singapore.
J.R.
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oops. Pompeo was stood up by NK yesterday at a meeting to discuss returning our soldiers. Not a real good sign.
quash
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Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

GolemIII said:

I bet you'd get a hard-on if Pearl Harbor happened again as long as it was under Trump.

Another whiff. We want Trump to succeed with NK but so far NK has not lived up to expections.
But it's Trump insistence that a loss is somehow a huge win.
Trump said NK will de-nuclearize. But NK said "The Korean Peninsula will de-nuclearize." Meaning no US troops in SK. I want him to succeed -a de-nuclearized NK is a great win. But I don't want a pretend success.
He's had far more success so far than anyone before him. You shouldn't expect it overnight.

And quite frankly, I don't believe you because you jump with joy everytime you hear something might be wrong with our NK relationship.

Specifically what did Trump get that is far beyond any predecessors? Especially given that the four parts of the agreement had all been obtained before.

And your last paragraph is just false. As Americans we are starving for things to cheer for; the ongoing
failures of our president are no cause for celebration.

“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

GolemIII said:

I bet you'd get a hard-on if Pearl Harbor happened again as long as it was under Trump.

Another whiff. We want Trump to succeed with NK but so far NK has not lived up to expections.
But it's Trump insistence that a loss is somehow a huge win.
Trump said NK will de-nuclearize. But NK said "The Korean Peninsula will de-nuclearize." Meaning no US troops in SK. I want him to succeed -a de-nuclearized NK is a great win. But I don't want a pretend success.
He's had far more success so far than anyone before him. You shouldn't expect it overnight.

And quite frankly, I don't believe you because you jump with joy everytime you hear something might be wrong with our NK relationship.

Specifically what did Trump get that is far beyond any predecessors? Especially given that the four parts of the agreement had all been obtained before.

And your last paragraph is just false. As Americans we are starving for things to cheer for; the ongoing
failures of our president are no cause for celebration.


He actually met with Kim, made a new agreement and continues a good relationship with him.
quash
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Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

GolemIII said:

I bet you'd get a hard-on if Pearl Harbor happened again as long as it was under Trump.

Another whiff. We want Trump to succeed with NK but so far NK has not lived up to expections.
But it's Trump insistence that a loss is somehow a huge win.
Trump said NK will de-nuclearize. But NK said "The Korean Peninsula will de-nuclearize." Meaning no US troops in SK. I want him to succeed -a de-nuclearized NK is a great win. But I don't want a pretend success.
He's had far more success so far than anyone before him. You shouldn't expect it overnight.

And quite frankly, I don't believe you because you jump with joy everytime you hear something might be wrong with our NK relationship.

Specifically what did Trump get that is far beyond any predecessors? Especially given that the four parts of the agreement had all been obtained before.

And your last paragraph is just false. As Americans we are starving for things to cheer for; the ongoing
failures of our president are no cause for celebration.


He actually met with Kim, made a new agreement and continues a good relationship with him.

Meeting with Kim, without concessions, is not a win for us, it's a win for Kim.

The agreement is not new.

Having a goid relationship with a ruthless autocrat, with nothing to show for it, is not a win either.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

GolemIII said:

I bet you'd get a hard-on if Pearl Harbor happened again as long as it was under Trump.

Another whiff. We want Trump to succeed with NK but so far NK has not lived up to expections.
But it's Trump insistence that a loss is somehow a huge win.
Trump said NK will de-nuclearize. But NK said "The Korean Peninsula will de-nuclearize." Meaning no US troops in SK. I want him to succeed -a de-nuclearized NK is a great win. But I don't want a pretend success.
He's had far more success so far than anyone before him. You shouldn't expect it overnight.

And quite frankly, I don't believe you because you jump with joy everytime you hear something might be wrong with our NK relationship.

Specifically what did Trump get that is far beyond any predecessors? Especially given that the four parts of the agreement had all been obtained before.

And your last paragraph is just false. As Americans we are starving for things to cheer for; the ongoing
failures of our president are no cause for celebration.


He actually met with Kim, made a new agreement and continues a good relationship with him.

Meeting with Kim, without concessions, is not a win for us, it's a win for Kim.

The agreement is not new.

Having a goid relationship with a ruthless autocrat, with nothing to show for it, is not a win either.
Sounds like you want war.

What would you do differently than Trump?
Golem
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If we are all being honest, DPRK is just a tough nut to crack. We've gone down a bunch of different roads with them through D and R administrations and nothing seems to work. The options seem to be either try something (anything at all) or don't and the results are much the same. Adding to that, China likes having a hornets nest there...It keeps neighbors off the porch. So they aren't going to do anything.

The only real solution to this does NOT involve diplomacy. It involves war and death and likely a fair amount fo nuclear fall out. It was worth a shot negotiating with a kid in his 20s who is new to the dictator thing. If it completely fails, we are exactly where we started and all DPRK got was a catered lunch in Singapore.
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GolemIII said:


The only real solution to this does NOT involve diplomacy. It involves war and death and likely a fair amount fo nuclear fall out. It was worth a shot negotiating with a kid in his 20s who is new to the dictator thing. If it completely fails, we are exactly where we started and all DPRK got was a catered lunch in Singapore.
A foreign power that takes out our electric grid for 6 months would result in a 90% kill rate in the civilian population.

Question: Do you think NK is capable of that now? In the near future?

The next war against the USA won't be nuclear, it will be cyber.
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Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

GolemIII said:

I bet you'd get a hard-on if Pearl Harbor happened again as long as it was under Trump.

Another whiff. We want Trump to succeed with NK but so far NK has not lived up to expections.
But it's Trump insistence that a loss is somehow a huge win.
Trump said NK will de-nuclearize. But NK said "The Korean Peninsula will de-nuclearize." Meaning no US troops in SK. I want him to succeed -a de-nuclearized NK is a great win. But I don't want a pretend success.
He's had far more success so far than anyone before him. You shouldn't expect it overnight.

And quite frankly, I don't believe you because you jump with joy everytime you hear something might be wrong with our NK relationship.

Specifically what did Trump get that is far beyond any predecessors? Especially given that the four parts of the agreement had all been obtained before.

And your last paragraph is just false. As Americans we are starving for things to cheer for; the ongoing
failures of our president are no cause for celebration.


He actually met with Kim, made a new agreement and continues a good relationship with him.

Meeting with Kim, without concessions, is not a win for us, it's a win for Kim.

The agreement is not new.

Having a goid relationship with a ruthless autocrat, with nothing to show for it, is not a win either.
Sounds like you want war.

What would you do differently than Trump?


Quash is a friggin idiot

There was no previous agreement active with any NOKO leader, as he insinuates, as there's been no US president that's even met with NOKO in eons
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Florda_mike said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

GolemIII said:

I bet you'd get a hard-on if Pearl Harbor happened again as long as it was under Trump.

Another whiff. We want Trump to succeed with NK but so far NK has not lived up to expections.
But it's Trump insistence that a loss is somehow a huge win.
Trump said NK will de-nuclearize. But NK said "The Korean Peninsula will de-nuclearize." Meaning no US troops in SK. I want him to succeed -a de-nuclearized NK is a great win. But I don't want a pretend success.
He's had far more success so far than anyone before him. You shouldn't expect it overnight.

And quite frankly, I don't believe you because you jump with joy everytime you hear something might be wrong with our NK relationship.

Specifically what did Trump get that is far beyond any predecessors? Especially given that the four parts of the agreement had all been obtained before.

And your last paragraph is just false. As Americans we are starving for things to cheer for; the ongoing
failures of our president are no cause for celebration.


He actually met with Kim, made a new agreement and continues a good relationship with him.

Meeting with Kim, without concessions, is not a win for us, it's a win for Kim.

The agreement is not new.

Having a goid relationship with a ruthless autocrat, with nothing to show for it, is not a win either.
Sounds like you want war.

What would you do differently than Trump?


Quash is a friggin idiot

There was no previous agreement active with any NOKO leader, as he insinuates, as there's been no US president that's even met with NOKO in eons
Yep
Florda_mike
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Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

GolemIII said:

I bet you'd get a hard-on if Pearl Harbor happened again as long as it was under Trump.

Another whiff. We want Trump to succeed with NK but so far NK has not lived up to expections.
But it's Trump insistence that a loss is somehow a huge win.
Trump said NK will de-nuclearize. But NK said "The Korean Peninsula will de-nuclearize." Meaning no US troops in SK. I want him to succeed -a de-nuclearized NK is a great win. But I don't want a pretend success.
He's had far more success so far than anyone before him. You shouldn't expect it overnight.

And quite frankly, I don't believe you because you jump with joy everytime you hear something might be wrong with our NK relationship.

Specifically what did Trump get that is far beyond any predecessors? Especially given that the four parts of the agreement had all been obtained before.

And your last paragraph is just false. As Americans we are starving for things to cheer for; the ongoing
failures of our president are no cause for celebration.


He actually met with Kim, made a new agreement and continues a good relationship with him.

Meeting with Kim, without concessions, is not a win for us, it's a win for Kim.

The agreement is not new.

Having a goid relationship with a ruthless autocrat, with nothing to show for it, is not a win either.
Sounds like you want war.

What would you do differently than Trump?


Crickets from Uber cabbie
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Osodecentx said:

GolemIII said:


The only real solution to this does NOT involve diplomacy. It involves war and death and likely a fair amount fo nuclear fall out. It was worth a shot negotiating with a kid in his 20s who is new to the dictator thing. If it completely fails, we are exactly where we started and all DPRK got was a catered lunch in Singapore.
A foreign power that takes out our electric grid for 6 months would result in a 90% kill rate in the civilian population.

Question: Do you think NK is capable of that now? In the near future?

The next war against the USA won't be nuclear, it will be cyber.


Ok so then we should disregard any nuclear threat like the last president we had?

Ok
J.R.
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Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

GolemIII said:

I bet you'd get a hard-on if Pearl Harbor happened again as long as it was under Trump.

Another whiff. We want Trump to succeed with NK but so far NK has not lived up to expections.
But it's Trump insistence that a loss is somehow a huge win.
Trump said NK will de-nuclearize. But NK said "The Korean Peninsula will de-nuclearize." Meaning no US troops in SK. I want him to succeed -a de-nuclearized NK is a great win. But I don't want a pretend success.
He's had far more success so far than anyone before him. You shouldn't expect it overnight.

And quite frankly, I don't believe you because you jump with joy everytime you hear something might be wrong with our NK relationship.
And just how do you measure that success prior to anyone before him? Do tell?
Doc Holliday
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J.R. said:

Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

GolemIII said:

I bet you'd get a hard-on if Pearl Harbor happened again as long as it was under Trump.

Another whiff. We want Trump to succeed with NK but so far NK has not lived up to expections.
But it's Trump insistence that a loss is somehow a huge win.
Trump said NK will de-nuclearize. But NK said "The Korean Peninsula will de-nuclearize." Meaning no US troops in SK. I want him to succeed -a de-nuclearized NK is a great win. But I don't want a pretend success.
He's had far more success so far than anyone before him. You shouldn't expect it overnight.

And quite frankly, I don't believe you because you jump with joy everytime you hear something might be wrong with our NK relationship.
And just how do you measure that success prior to anyone before him? Do tell?
Anyone else have a letter like this?

Osodecentx
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Florda_mike said:

Osodecentx said:

GolemIII said:


The only real solution to this does NOT involve diplomacy. It involves war and death and likely a fair amount fo nuclear fall out. It was worth a shot negotiating with a kid in his 20s who is new to the dictator thing. If it completely fails, we are exactly where we started and all DPRK got was a catered lunch in Singapore.
A foreign power that takes out our electric grid for 6 months would result in a 90% kill rate in the civilian population.

Question: Do you think NK is capable of that now? In the near future?

The next war against the USA won't be nuclear, it will be cyber.


Ok so then we should disregard any nuclear threat like the last president we had?

Ok
Of course not. My post was in reply to Golem. It may make more sense if you read his post and then mine.

In my opinion, we're not going to 'war and death and nuke them' for free. A war with NK will involve war and death on our homeland.

Question: Do you think NK is capable an EMP attack now or in the near future?
quash
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Florda_mike said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

GolemIII said:

I bet you'd get a hard-on if Pearl Harbor happened again as long as it was under Trump.

Another whiff. We want Trump to succeed with NK but so far NK has not lived up to expections.
But it's Trump insistence that a loss is somehow a huge win.
Trump said NK will de-nuclearize. But NK said "The Korean Peninsula will de-nuclearize." Meaning no US troops in SK. I want him to succeed -a de-nuclearized NK is a great win. But I don't want a pretend success.
He's had far more success so far than anyone before him. You shouldn't expect it overnight.

And quite frankly, I don't believe you because you jump with joy everytime you hear something might be wrong with our NK relationship.

Specifically what did Trump get that is far beyond any predecessors? Especially given that the four parts of the agreement had all been obtained before.

And your last paragraph is just false. As Americans we are starving for things to cheer for; the ongoing
failures of our president are no cause for celebration.


He actually met with Kim, made a new agreement and continues a good relationship with him.

Meeting with Kim, without concessions, is not a win for us, it's a win for Kim.

The agreement is not new.

Having a goid relationship with a ruthless autocrat, with nothing to show for it, is not a win either.
Sounds like you want war.

What would you do differently than Trump?


Quash is a friggin idiot

There was no previous agreement active with any NOKO leader, as he insinuates, as there's been no US president that's even met with NOKO in eons

An idiot would think that our Dept of State can't co.e to an agreement that the president signs in the oval office.

Meeting face to face was a gamble, so far it has only paid Kim.
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