Sam Lowry said:

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quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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"Short range ballistic missiles."

Yawn.

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It's not the range, it's the speed. Wake up.

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HuMcK said it was the range. I'm sorry, but I've seen the same film too many times. It's the nukes, well no it's the missiles, or no it's the chemical weapons, or lack of women's rights, or we don't like their leader's haircut. Has a lulling effect after a while.

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quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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"Short range ballistic missiles."

Yawn.

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It's not the range, it's the speed. Wake up.

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HuMcK said it was the range. I'm sorry, but I've seen the same film too many times. It's the nukes, well no it's the missiles, or no it's the chemical weapons, or lack of women's rights, or we don't like their leader's haircut. Has a lulling effect after a while.

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Like the list of promises made to every president for decades? Why is this lullaby prettier?

And don't discount speed, Russia is ahead on the same tech.

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Sam Lowry said:

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quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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"Short range ballistic missiles."

Yawn.

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It's not the range, it's the speed. Wake up.

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HuMcK said it was the range. I'm sorry, but I've seen the same film too many times. It's the nukes, well no it's the missiles, or no it's the chemical weapons, or lack of women's rights, or we don't like their leader's haircut. Has a lulling effect after a while.

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Like the list of promises made to every president for decades? Why is this lullaby prettier?

And don't discount speed, Russia is ahead on the same tech.

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Both sides have broken promises for decades. I'm not shocked that the temporary curtailment of missile tests was...well, temporary.

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TexasScientist said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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"Short range ballistic missiles."

Yawn.

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It's not the range, it's the speed. Wake up.

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HuMcK said it was the range. I'm sorry, but I've seen the same film too many times. It's the nukes, well no it's the missiles, or no it's the chemical weapons, or lack of women's rights, or we don't like their leader's haircut. Has a lulling effect after a while.

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Like the list of promises made to every president for decades? Why is this lullaby prettier?

And don't discount speed, Russia is ahead on the same tech.

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Both sides have broken promises for decades. I'm not shocked that the temporary curtailment of missile tests was...well, temporary.

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So what has Trump received other than an invite across the line into N. Korea? They've tested nukes all they need to know that they can make them correctly. Short range testings can be extrapolated to long range applications.

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Sam Lowry said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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"Short range ballistic missiles."

Yawn.

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It's not the range, it's the speed. Wake up.

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HuMcK said it was the range. I'm sorry, but I've seen the same film too many times. It's the nukes, well no it's the missiles, or no it's the chemical weapons, or lack of women's rights, or we don't like their leader's haircut. Has a lulling effect after a while.

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Like the list of promises made to every president for decades? Why is this lullaby prettier?

And don't discount speed, Russia is ahead on the same tech.

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Both sides have broken promises for decades. I'm not shocked that the temporary curtailment of missile tests was...well, temporary.

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So what has Trump received other than an invite across the line into N. Korea? They've tested nukes all they need to know that they can make them correctly. Short range testings can be extrapolated to long range applications.

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All of that was true before Trump took office.

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quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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"Short range ballistic missiles."

Yawn.

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It's not the range, it's the speed. Wake up.

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HuMcK said it was the range. I'm sorry, but I've seen the same film too many times. It's the nukes, well no it's the missiles, or no it's the chemical weapons, or lack of women's rights, or we don't like their leader's haircut. Has a lulling effect after a while.

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Like the list of promises made to every president for decades? Why is this lullaby prettier?

And don't discount speed, Russia is ahead on the same tech.

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Both sides have broken promises for decades. I'm not shocked that the temporary curtailment of missile tests was...well, temporary.

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So what has Trump received other than an invite across the line into N. Korea? They've tested nukes all they need to know that they can make them correctly. Short range testings can be extrapolated to long range applications.

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All of that was true before Trump took office.

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Right. And it's still true, despite the assertions that Trump was going to get a different outcome. And he may yet, but not so far.

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quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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"Short range ballistic missiles."

Yawn.

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It's not the range, it's the speed. Wake up.

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HuMcK said it was the range. I'm sorry, but I've seen the same film too many times. It's the nukes, well no it's the missiles, or no it's the chemical weapons, or lack of women's rights, or we don't like their leader's haircut. Has a lulling effect after a while.

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Like the list of promises made to every president for decades? Why is this lullaby prettier?

And don't discount speed, Russia is ahead on the same tech.

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Both sides have broken promises for decades. I'm not shocked that the temporary curtailment of missile tests was...well, temporary.

---

So what has Trump received other than an invite across the line into N. Korea? They've tested nukes all they need to know that they can make them correctly. Short range testings can be extrapolated to long range applications.

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All of that was true before Trump took office.

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Right. And it's still true, despite the assertions that Trump was goibg to get a different outcome. And he may yet, but not so far.

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Oldbear83 said:

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quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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"Short range ballistic missiles."

Yawn.

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It's not the range, it's the speed. Wake up.

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HuMcK said it was the range. I'm sorry, but I've seen the same film too many times. It's the nukes, well no it's the missiles, or no it's the chemical weapons, or lack of women's rights, or we don't like their leader's haircut. Has a lulling effect after a while.

---

Like the list of promises made to every president for decades? Why is this lullaby prettier?

And don't discount speed, Russia is ahead on the same tech.

---

Both sides have broken promises for decades. I'm not shocked that the temporary curtailment of missile tests was...well, temporary.

---

So what has Trump received other than an invite across the line into N. Korea? They've tested nukes all they need to know that they can make them correctly. Short range testings can be extrapolated to long range applications.

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All of that was true before Trump took office.

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Right. And it's still true, despite the assertions that Trump was going to get a different outcome. And he may yet, but not so far.

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Three Americans returned through Trump's intervention:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles/three-americans-freed-by-north-korea-head-home-thank-trump-idUSKBN1IA08I



Troops killed in the Korea War returned by NK:

https://www.vox.com/2018/7/27/17621448/north-korea-trump-remains-55-war



Missile testing suspended for about a year a half:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-43846488


Compared to Obama, Bush, et al, that's pretty good.

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TexasScientist said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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"Short range ballistic missiles."

Yawn.

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It's not the range, it's the speed. Wake up.

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HuMcK said it was the range. I'm sorry, but I've seen the same film too many times. It's the nukes, well no it's the missiles, or no it's the chemical weapons, or lack of women's rights, or we don't like their leader's haircut. Has a lulling effect after a while.

---

Like the list of promises made to every president for decades? Why is this lullaby prettier?

And don't discount speed, Russia is ahead on the same tech.

---

Both sides have broken promises for decades. I'm not shocked that the temporary curtailment of missile tests was...well, temporary.

---

So what has Trump received other than an invite across the line into N. Korea? They've tested nukes all they need to know that they can make them correctly. Short range testings can be extrapolated to long range applications.

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All of that was true before Trump took office.

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Right. And it's still true, despite the assertions that Trump was going to get a different outcome. And he may yet, but not so far.

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Three Americans returned through Trump's intervention:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles/three-americans-freed-by-north-korea-head-home-thank-trump-idUSKBN1IA08I



Troops killed in the Korea War returned by NK:

https://www.vox.com/2018/7/27/17621448/north-korea-trump-remains-55-war



Missile testing suspended for about a year a half:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-43846488


Compared to Obama, Bush, et al, that's pretty good.

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BBC - Mr Kim said further tests were unnecessary because Pyongyang's nuclear capabilities had been "verified".

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quash said:

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If you're actually researching this you know that 629 sets of remains were returned between 1990 and 2005, when President Bush ended the program. He felt like the $22 million we had paid for the remains was being used to fund nuclear research, Bush Lite agreed.

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