GolemIII said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Still hoping this pays off the way we were promised.

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Me, too.

I think armed conflict is less likely now than 2 years ago. Postpone the military exercises; they are just trade bait as far as i'm concerned.

Meet with the only fat person in N. Korea. So what?

Better to talk than to shoot.

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As long as it leads somewhere. What are we getting for foregoing the military exercises?

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Fewer taxpayer dollars spent.

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Hey, uf saving money us your thing I got a list. But what did N.Korea give up in return, since that's the topic.

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Maybe an easing of tensions helps the next stage. Nothing like talking to someone saying we're ready to de-escalate, then do war exercises at the edge of their sea and land borders targeted at the way we beat you in a battle.

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Sure, we could become less prepared as N. Korea becomes more prepared. And chat along the way.

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We've been preparing for war with North Korea for over 60 years. I'm sure we could figure it out.

And look at the libertarian hawk. Strange attitude from the GTFO guy.

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Ha! His libertarian mask slipped off a long time ago...his giant statist nose won't let it stay on.

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Osodecentx said:

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quash said:

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ATL Bear said:

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quash said:

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ATL Bear said:

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quash said:

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Osodecentx said:

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quash said:

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HuMcK said:

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Still hoping this pays off the way we were promised.

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Me, too.

I think armed conflict is less likely now than 2 years ago. Postpone the military exercises; they are just trade bait as far as i'm concerned.

Meet with the only fat person in N. Korea. So what?

Better to talk than to shoot.

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As long as it leads somewhere. What are we getting for foregoing the military exercises?

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Fewer taxpayer dollars spent.

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Hey, uf saving money us your thing I got a list. But what did N.Korea give up in return, since that's the topic.

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Maybe an easing of tensions helps the next stage. Nothing like talking to someone saying we're ready to de-escalate, then do war exercises at the edge of their sea and land borders targeted at the way we beat you in a battle.

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Sure, we could become less prepared as N. Korea becomes more prepared. And chat along the way.

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How are we less prepared?

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quash said:

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Osodecentx said:

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quash said:

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ATL Bear said:

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quash said:

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ATL Bear said:

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quash said:

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Osodecentx said:

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quash said:

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HuMcK said:

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Still hoping this pays off the way we were promised.

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Me, too.

I think armed conflict is less likely now than 2 years ago. Postpone the military exercises; they are just trade bait as far as i'm concerned.

Meet with the only fat person in N. Korea. So what?

Better to talk than to shoot.

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As long as it leads somewhere. What are we getting for foregoing the military exercises?

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Fewer taxpayer dollars spent.

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Hey, uf saving money us your thing I got a list. But what did N.Korea give up in return, since that's the topic.

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Maybe an easing of tensions helps the next stage. Nothing like talking to someone saying we're ready to de-escalate, then do war exercises at the edge of their sea and land borders targeted at the way we beat you in a battle.

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Sure, we could become less prepared as N. Korea becomes more prepared. And chat along the way.

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How are we less prepared?

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Exactly. And now that the exercises are exposed as worthless can we quit touting them as a bargaining chip?

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Osodecentx said:

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quash said:

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Osodecentx said:

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quash said:

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ATL Bear said:

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quash said:

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ATL Bear said:

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quash said:

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Osodecentx said:

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quash said:

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HuMcK said:

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Still hoping this pays off the way we were promised.

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Me, too.

I think armed conflict is less likely now than 2 years ago. Postpone the military exercises; they are just trade bait as far as i'm concerned.

Meet with the only fat person in N. Korea. So what?

Better to talk than to shoot.

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As long as it leads somewhere. What are we getting for foregoing the military exercises?

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Fewer taxpayer dollars spent.

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Hey, uf saving money us your thing I got a list. But what did N.Korea give up in return, since that's the topic.

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Maybe an easing of tensions helps the next stage. Nothing like talking to someone saying we're ready to de-escalate, then do war exercises at the edge of their sea and land borders targeted at the way we beat you in a battle.

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Sure, we could become less prepared as N. Korea becomes more prepared. And chat along the way.

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How are we less prepared?

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Exactly. And now that the exercises are exposed as worthless can we quit touting them as a bargaining chip?

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Nobody, at least not I, is saying the exercises are worthless, just not necessary this month. I have no idea how big a chip this is, but it is worth something.

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quash said:

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Osodecentx said:

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quash said:

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Osodecentx said:

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quash said:

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ATL Bear said:

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quash said:

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ATL Bear said:

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quash said:

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Osodecentx said:

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quash said:

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HuMcK said:

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Still hoping this pays off the way we were promised.

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Me, too.

I think armed conflict is less likely now than 2 years ago. Postpone the military exercises; they are just trade bait as far as i'm concerned.

Meet with the only fat person in N. Korea. So what?

Better to talk than to shoot.

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As long as it leads somewhere. What are we getting for foregoing the military exercises?

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Fewer taxpayer dollars spent.

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Hey, uf saving money us your thing I got a list. But what did N.Korea give up in return, since that's the topic.

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Maybe an easing of tensions helps the next stage. Nothing like talking to someone saying we're ready to de-escalate, then do war exercises at the edge of their sea and land borders targeted at the way we beat you in a battle.

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Sure, we could become less prepared as N. Korea becomes more prepared. And chat along the way.

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How are we less prepared?

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Exactly. And now that the exercises are exposed as worthless can we quit touting them as a bargaining chip?

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Nobody, at least not I, is saying the exercises are worthless, just not necessary this month. I have no idea how big a chip this is, but it is worth something.

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I'm not seeing "something" from N. Korea.

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Osodecentx said:

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quash said:

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Osodecentx said:

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quash said:

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Osodecentx said:

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quash said:

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ATL Bear said:

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quash said:

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ATL Bear said:

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quash said:

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Osodecentx said:

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quash said:

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HuMcK said:

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Still hoping this pays off the way we were promised.

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Me, too.

I think armed conflict is less likely now than 2 years ago. Postpone the military exercises; they are just trade bait as far as i'm concerned.

Meet with the only fat person in N. Korea. So what?

Better to talk than to shoot.

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As long as it leads somewhere. What are we getting for foregoing the military exercises?

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Fewer taxpayer dollars spent.

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Hey, uf saving money us your thing I got a list. But what did N.Korea give up in return, since that's the topic.

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Maybe an easing of tensions helps the next stage. Nothing like talking to someone saying we're ready to de-escalate, then do war exercises at the edge of their sea and land borders targeted at the way we beat you in a battle.

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Sure, we could become less prepared as N. Korea becomes more prepared. And chat along the way.

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How are we less prepared?

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Exactly. And now that the exercises are exposed as worthless can we quit touting them as a bargaining chip?

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Nobody, at least not I, is saying the exercises are worthless, just not necessary this month. I have no idea how big a chip this is, but it is worth something.

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I'm not seeing "something" from N. Korea.

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Nothing yet.
Maybe something someday, maybe nothing ever. What harm?

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quash said:

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Osodecentx said:

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quash said:

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Osodecentx said:

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quash said:

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Osodecentx said:

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quash said:

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ATL Bear said:

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quash said:

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ATL Bear said:

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quash said:

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Osodecentx said:

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quash said:

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HuMcK said:

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Still hoping this pays off the way we were promised.

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Me, too.

I think armed conflict is less likely now than 2 years ago. Postpone the military exercises; they are just trade bait as far as i'm concerned.

Meet with the only fat person in N. Korea. So what?

Better to talk than to shoot.

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As long as it leads somewhere. What are we getting for foregoing the military exercises?

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Fewer taxpayer dollars spent.

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Hey, uf saving money us your thing I got a list. But what did N.Korea give up in return, since that's the topic.

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Maybe an easing of tensions helps the next stage. Nothing like talking to someone saying we're ready to de-escalate, then do war exercises at the edge of their sea and land borders targeted at the way we beat you in a battle.

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Sure, we could become less prepared as N. Korea becomes more prepared. And chat along the way.

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How are we less prepared?

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Exactly. And now that the exercises are exposed as worthless can we quit touting them as a bargaining chip?

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Nobody, at least not I, is saying the exercises are worthless, just not necessary this month. I have no idea how big a chip this is, but it is worth something.

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I'm not seeing "something" from N. Korea.

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Nothing yet.
Maybe something someday, maybe nothing ever. What harm?

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N.Korean nuclear attack on somebody.

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Osodecentx said:

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quash said:

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Osodecentx said:

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quash said:

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Osodecentx said:

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quash said:

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Osodecentx said:

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quash said:

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ATL Bear said:

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quash said:

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ATL Bear said:

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quash said:

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Osodecentx said:

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quash said:

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HuMcK said:

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Still hoping this pays off the way we were promised.

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Me, too.

I think armed conflict is less likely now than 2 years ago. Postpone the military exercises; they are just trade bait as far as i'm concerned.

Meet with the only fat person in N. Korea. So what?

Better to talk than to shoot.

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As long as it leads somewhere. What are we getting for foregoing the military exercises?

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Fewer taxpayer dollars spent.

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Hey, uf saving money us your thing I got a list. But what did N.Korea give up in return, since that's the topic.

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Maybe an easing of tensions helps the next stage. Nothing like talking to someone saying we're ready to de-escalate, then do war exercises at the edge of their sea and land borders targeted at the way we beat you in a battle.

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Sure, we could become less prepared as N. Korea becomes more prepared. And chat along the way.

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How are we less prepared?

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Exactly. And now that the exercises are exposed as worthless can we quit touting them as a bargaining chip?

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Nobody, at least not I, is saying the exercises are worthless, just not necessary this month. I have no idea how big a chip this is, but it is worth something.

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I'm not seeing "something" from N. Korea.

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Nothing yet.
Maybe something someday, maybe nothing ever. What harm?

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N.Korean nuclear attack on somebody.

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So don't postpone military exercise that we can run anytime

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quash said:

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Osodecentx said:

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quash said:

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Osodecentx said:

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quash said:

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ATL Bear said:

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quash said:

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ATL Bear said:

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quash said:

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Osodecentx said:

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quash said:

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HuMcK said:

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Still hoping this pays off the way we were promised.

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Me, too.

I think armed conflict is less likely now than 2 years ago. Postpone the military exercises; they are just trade bait as far as i'm concerned.

Meet with the only fat person in N. Korea. So what?

Better to talk than to shoot.

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As long as it leads somewhere. What are we getting for foregoing the military exercises?

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Fewer taxpayer dollars spent.

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Hey, uf saving money us your thing I got a list. But what did N.Korea give up in return, since that's the topic.

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Maybe an easing of tensions helps the next stage. Nothing like talking to someone saying we're ready to de-escalate, then do war exercises at the edge of their sea and land borders targeted at the way we beat you in a battle.

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Sure, we could become less prepared as N. Korea becomes more prepared. And chat along the way.

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How are we less prepared?

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Exactly. And now that the exercises are exposed as worthless can we quit touting them as a bargaining chip?

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Nobody, at least not I, is saying the exercises are worthless, just not necessary this month. I have no idea how big a chip this is, but it is worth something.

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I'm not seeing "something" from N. Korea.

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https://t.co/sx0OcTyhvU

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TexasScientist said:

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https://t.co/sx0OcTyhvU

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This is cosmetic. I want to see tangible and demonstrably substantial progress at eliminating nukes and demilitarization.

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riflebear said:

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TexasScientist said:

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https://t.co/sx0OcTyhvU

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This is cosmetic. I want to see tangible and demonstrably substantial progress at eliminating nukes and demilitarization.

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LOL. Facepalm

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quash said:

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riflebear said:

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https://t.co/sx0OcTyhvU

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This is cosmetic. I want to see tangible and demonstrably substantial progress at eliminating nukes and demilitarization.

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LOL. Facepalm

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Why? It's what we were promised. Trump didn't go over there to facilitate yard maintenance.

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riflebear said:

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It's called on the path to peace. Do you have any clue how these two countries felt about each other a little over a year ago? Obama said this was the worst situation facing the new administration and now it's one where you don't hear a peep from the press about the dangers of N.Korea.

Also, nuclear experts said it could take 2-3 years to completely denuclearize. Patience.

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TexasScientist said:

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https://t.co/sx0OcTyhvU

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This is cosmetic. I want to see tangible and demonstrably substantial progress at eliminating nukes and demilitarization.

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quash said:

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riflebear said:

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It's called on the path to peace. Do you have any clue how these two countries felt about each other a little over a year ago? Obama said this was the worst situation facing the new administration and now it's one where you don't hear a peep from the press about the dangers of N.Korea.

Also, nuclear experts said it could take 2-3 years to completely denuclearize. Patience.

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Patience I got. Those of you who wanted to give Trump a Nobel peace prize could use some.

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quash said:

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riflebear said:

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It's called on the path to peace. Do you have any clue how these two countries felt about each other a little over a year ago? Obama said this was the worst situation facing the new administration and now it's one where you don't hear a peep from the press about the dangers of N.Korea.

Also, nuclear experts said it could take 2-3 years to completely denuclearize. Patience.

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Patience I got. Those of you who wanted to give Trump a Nobel peace prize could use some.

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riflebear said:

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quash said:

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riflebear said:

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It's called on the path to peace. Do you have any clue how these two countries felt about each other a little over a year ago? Obama said this was the worst situation facing the new administration and now it's one where you don't hear a peep from the press about the dangers of N.Korea.

Also, nuclear experts said it could take 2-3 years to completely denuclearize. Patience.

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Patience I got. Those of you who wanted to give Trump a Nobel peace prize could use some.

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Well lets see. If we want to compare what Trump has done for a Nobel Peace prize w/ N. Korea vs Obama reading a teleprompter doing literally nothing for his, then I guess you have a point. LOL

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quash said:

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riflebear said:

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quash said:

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riflebear said:

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It's called on the path to peace. Do you have any clue how these two countries felt about each other a little over a year ago? Obama said this was the worst situation facing the new administration and now it's one where you don't hear a peep from the press about the dangers of N.Korea.

Also, nuclear experts said it could take 2-3 years to completely denuclearize. Patience.

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Patience I got. Those of you who wanted to give Trump a Nobel peace prize could use some.

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Well lets see. If we want to compare what Trump has done for a Nobel Peace prize w/ N. Korea vs Obama reading a teleprompter doing literally nothing for his, then I guess you have a point. LOL

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You wouldn't know this, but I said at the time that it was given aspirationally. And I wrote later that I was sure they wanted it back given the amount of blood on Obama's hands.

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satellite images suggest that the North has been engaged in a great deception: It has offered to dismantle a major launching site a step it began, then halted while continuing to make improvements at more than a dozen others that would bolster launches of conventional and nuclear warheads.
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And the sanctions are collapsing, in part because North Korea has leveraged its new, softer-sounding relationship with Washington, and its stated commitment to eventual denuclearization, to resume trade with Russia and China.

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No date. So if it ever happens one of Trump's grandkids gets the Nobel?

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ATL Bear said:

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quash said:

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Jack and DP said:

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No date. So if it ever happens one of Trump's grandkids gets the Nobel?

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Chairman Un has so far lived up to these statements, although the progress on the dismantling has been slower than some would like.

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ATL Bear said:

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No date. So if it ever happens one of Trump's grandkids gets the Nobel?

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Chairman Un has so far lived up to these statements, although the progress on the dismantling has been slower than some would like.

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Osodecentx said:

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Are we any the worse for having met with Kim?

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quash said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Are we any the worse for having met with Kim?

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Personally I am unaffected. Kim is much better off. Trump got played so he's a little worse. And there's no evidence he learned anything.

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Osodecentx said:

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quash said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Are we any the worse for having met with Kim?

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Personally I am unaffected. Kim is much better off. Trump got played so he's a little worse. And there's no evidence he learned anything.

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How is Kim better off? How is Trump a little worse off? What should Trump have learned?

Trump met with a dictator. There are a lot of them. We didn't send food or technology; we just talked. It appears they are building more rocket launching sites. We know about them and can resume are status quo ante position of diplomacy, if we choose.

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quash said:

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Osodecentx said:

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quash said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Are we any the worse for having met with Kim?

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Personally I am unaffected. Kim is much better off. Trump got played so he's a little worse. And there's no evidence he learned anything.

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How is Kim better off? How is Trump a little worse off? What should Trump have learned?

Trump met with a dictator. There are a lot of them. We didn't send food or technology; we just talked. It appears they are building more rocket launching sites. We know about them and can resume are status quo ante position of diplomacy, if we choose.

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Kim got photo ops with the C in C of the world's largest army. Trump got pics with another dictator, made claims that have not turned out, and still thinks he did a great job. We are in status quo ante.

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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quash said:

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Osodecentx said:

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quash said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Are we any the worse for having met with Kim?

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Personally I am unaffected. Kim is much better off. Trump got played so he's a little worse. And there's no evidence he learned anything.

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How is Kim better off? How is Trump a little worse off? What should Trump have learned?

Trump met with a dictator. There are a lot of them. We didn't send food or technology; we just talked. It appears they are building more rocket launching sites. We know about them and can resume are status quo ante position of diplomacy, if we choose.

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Kim got photo ops with the C in C of the world's largest army. Trump got pics with another dictator, made claims that have not turned out, and still thinks he did a great job. We are in status quo ante.

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status quo or worse off? Make up your mind.

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quash said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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quash said:

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Osodecentx said:

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quash said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Are we any the worse for having met with Kim?

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Personally I am unaffected. Kim is much better off. Trump got played so he's a little worse. And there's no evidence he learned anything.

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How is Kim better off? How is Trump a little worse off? What should Trump have learned?

Trump met with a dictator. There are a lot of them. We didn't send food or technology; we just talked. It appears they are building more rocket launching sites. We know about them and can resume are status quo ante position of diplomacy, if we choose.

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Kim got photo ops with the C in C of the world's largest army. Trump got pics with another dictator, made claims that have not turned out, and still thinks he did a great job. We are in status quo ante.

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status quo or worse off? Make up your mind.

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We are in status quo ante. Trump is a little worse off.
What do I need to decide?

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Osodecentx said:

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quash said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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quash said:

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Osodecentx said:

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quash said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Are we any the worse for having met with Kim?

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Personally I am unaffected. Kim is much better off. Trump got played so he's a little worse. And there's no evidence he learned anything.

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How is Kim better off? How is Trump a little worse off? What should Trump have learned?

Trump met with a dictator. There are a lot of them. We didn't send food or technology; we just talked. It appears they are building more rocket launching sites. We know about them and can resume are status quo ante position of diplomacy, if we choose.

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Kim got photo ops with the C in C of the world's largest army. Trump got pics with another dictator, made claims that have not turned out, and still thinks he did a great job. We are in status quo ante.

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status quo or worse off? Make up your mind.

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We are in status quo ante. Trump is a little worse off.
What do I need to decide?

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Was a chance for detente with N. Korea worth having a picture made with Trump. I say yes. The USA is no worse off.

Something positive may yet come of the effort.

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