CMR was not a Mistake

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Thee University
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DAC said:

Thee University said:

PartyBear said:

Players the age of recruits around the country only have a memory of Baylor being a top 10 program, a Heisman winner and cool uniforms. That is still what they think of when someone from Baylor reaches out to them about playing here.


Cool uniforms?????? Who cares?



Probably no one other than 17-18 year old players and fans
Typical Baylor Bubble Boy retort.

Maybe some of the "sweet" Baylor fans care what uniforms we put on but not the players. If this is a Top 10 reason for choosing Baylor then we are in trouble.
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PartyBear said:

We had a team that should have won 6 last season. The Rhule era has been a disaster so far. The only redeeming quality is the recruiting but recruiting is also running off the residual brand Briles built.
1 year is an era?
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cowboycwr said:

Thee University said:

PartyBear said:

Players the age of recruits around the country only have a memory of Baylor being a top 10 program, a Heisman winner and cool uniforms. That is still what they think of when someone from Baylor reaches out to them about playing here.
Top 20 program? 1 year out of 8 does not = dynasty. 1951 & 2014 are our only Top 10 finishes


Heisman? These recruits were in elementary school back then.

Cool uniforms?????? Who cares? Schools that honor and respect tradition (Alabama, Penn State, etc.) Don't care about uniforms.




Yes top program. High school players think of rankings throughout the year not just the final rankings.

Yes a heisman. They may have been in elementary school but that is when many of them probably started paying attention to college football.

Uniforms do matter to high school recruits. A lot.

Funny that the 2 schools you mention are blue bloods. Not schools competing for the recruits against the blue bloods.
It's all about the FINAL rankings and how you performed in your upper tier bowl game. What do you do on the Big Stage?

RG3 and Manziel are nearly forgotten already!

So we are losing recruits because of uniforms? Right.

We compete for recruits with everybody. Winning and winning big matters. Uniforms don't make the player.
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Thee University said:

cowboycwr said:

Thee University said:

PartyBear said:

Players the age of recruits around the country only have a memory of Baylor being a top 10 program, a Heisman winner and cool uniforms. That is still what they think of when someone from Baylor reaches out to them about playing here.
Top 20 program? 1 year out of 8 does not = dynasty. 1951 & 2014 are our only Top 10 finishes


Heisman? These recruits were in elementary school back then.

Cool uniforms?????? Who cares? Schools that honor and respect tradition (Alabama, Penn State, etc.) Don't care about uniforms.




Yes top program. High school players think of rankings throughout the year not just the final rankings.

Yes a heisman. They may have been in elementary school but that is when many of them probably started paying attention to college football.

Uniforms do matter to high school recruits. A lot.

Funny that the 2 schools you mention are blue bloods. Not schools competing for the recruits against the blue bloods.
It's all about the FINAL rankings and how you performed in your upper tier bowl game. What do you do on the Big Stage?

RG3 and Manziel are nearly forgotten already!

So we are losing recruits because of uniforms? Right.

We compete for recruits with everybody. Winning and winning big matters. Uniforms don't make the player.
Sorry but you have no clue what you are talking about or what high school kids think/care about.
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Thee University said:

ColomboLQ said:

D. C. Bear said:

57Bear said:

Some coaches are able to achieve wins by building a game plan that capitalizes on the talent that is available.




...and some coaches go 4-8 two years in a row while the get the talent lined up.
It's sad that we are left wishing to be able to go 4-8 again.
What is sad is not having another RG3 coming up. They tend to make things a little easier.
Yes they do, especially when you know how to use them properly. Talent that is misused doesn't make a lick of difference. You are right though, it's a real mark against the previous coaching staff that they couldn't recruit and develop a guy like RG3. Oh wait.
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Thee University said:

PartyBear said:

We had a team that should have won 6 last season. The Rhule era has been a disaster so far. The only redeeming quality is the recruiting but recruiting is also running off the residual brand Briles built.
1 year is an error?

Who knows
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Thee University said:

ShooterTX said:

PartyBear said:

I said the brand built up under Briles is still fueling some of our recruiting.


If that's true, then why did so many players bail out? Why did we only have 1 recruit when Rhule arrived? If you're correct, then we wouldn't have lost Stidham or all those incoming freshmen in 2016.
The Briles brand left when he was fired. It's a sad thing, but it's time to move on.
It took CAB a few years to build his program. It took Rhule a few years at Temple, and it will take a few years at Baylor.
The Briles brand was poisoned.

These Briles suck ups are exactly like a beaten and bruised NFL, NBA or MLB wife. They get the piss beat out of them yet keep coming back and publically "supporting" the gravy train.

Rhule has had 1 year under horrendous circumstances.
Questions:

Does Rhule currently have horrendous circumstances?

If he doesn't, and we lose to UTSA...does your opinion of Rhule change?
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." ~ John Adams
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ColomboLQ said:

Thee University said:

ColomboLQ said:

D. C. Bear said:

57Bear said:

Some coaches are able to achieve wins by building a game plan that capitalizes on the talent that is available.




...and some coaches go 4-8 two years in a row while the get the talent lined up.
It's sad that we are left wishing to be able to go 4-8 again.
What is sad is not having another RG3 coming up. They tend to make things a little easier.
Yes they do, especially when you know how to use them properly. Talent that is misused doesn't make a lick of difference. You are right though, it's a real mark against the previous coaching staff that they couldn't recruit and develop a guy like RG3. Oh wait.
You think RG3 was developed?
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Thee University said:

ColomboLQ said:

Thee University said:

ColomboLQ said:

D. C. Bear said:

57Bear said:

Some coaches are able to achieve wins by building a game plan that capitalizes on the talent that is available.




...and some coaches go 4-8 two years in a row while the get the talent lined up.
It's sad that we are left wishing to be able to go 4-8 again.
What is sad is not having another RG3 coming up. They tend to make things a little easier.
Yes they do, especially when you know how to use them properly. Talent that is misused doesn't make a lick of difference. You are right though, it's a real mark against the previous coaching staff that they couldn't recruit and develop a guy like RG3. Oh wait.
You think RG3 was developed?


Without question. Just go watch what he was able to do his freshman year vs. 2011.
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Doc Holliday said:

Thee University said:

ShooterTX said:

PartyBear said:

I said the brand built up under Briles is still fueling some of our recruiting.


If that's true, then why did so many players bail out? Why did we only have 1 recruit when Rhule arrived? If you're correct, then we wouldn't have lost Stidham or all those incoming freshmen in 2016.
The Briles brand left when he was fired. It's a sad thing, but it's time to move on.
It took CAB a few years to build his program. It took Rhule a few years at Temple, and it will take a few years at Baylor.
The Briles brand was poisoned.

These Briles suck ups are exactly like a beaten and bruised NFL, NBA or MLB wife. They get the piss beat out of them yet keep coming back and publically "supporting" the gravy train.

Rhule has had 1 year under horrendous circumstances.
Questions:

Does Rhule currently have horrendous circumstances?

If he doesn't, and we lose to UTSA...does your opinion of Rhule change?
They are better now but not great. The BU fan base is disloyal and still in the beaten NBA, NFL, MLB wife syndrome.

If we lose to UTSA this year, yes.
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cowboycwr said:

Thee University said:

cowboycwr said:

Thee University said:

PartyBear said:

Players the age of recruits around the country only have a memory of Baylor being a top 10 program, a Heisman winner and cool uniforms. That is still what they think of when someone from Baylor reaches out to them about playing here.
Top 20 program? 1 year out of 8 does not = dynasty. 1951 & 2014 are our only Top 10 finishes


Heisman? These recruits were in elementary school back then.

Cool uniforms?????? Who cares? Schools that honor and respect tradition (Alabama, Penn State, etc.) Don't care about uniforms.




Yes top program. High school players think of rankings throughout the year not just the final rankings.

Yes a heisman. They may have been in elementary school but that is when many of them probably started paying attention to college football.

Uniforms do matter to high school recruits. A lot.

Funny that the 2 schools you mention are blue bloods. Not schools competing for the recruits against the blue bloods.
It's all about the FINAL rankings and how you performed in your upper tier bowl game. What do you do on the Big Stage?

RG3 and Manziel are nearly forgotten already!

So we are losing recruits because of uniforms? Right.

We compete for recruits with everybody. Winning and winning big matters. Uniforms don't make the player.
Sorry but you have no clue what you are talking about or what high school kids think/care about.
What? Are you a tuba player at Riesel High or flute player at Clifton High?
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Thee University said:

cowboycwr said:

Thee University said:

cowboycwr said:

Thee University said:

PartyBear said:

Players the age of recruits around the country only have a memory of Baylor being a top 10 program, a Heisman winner and cool uniforms. That is still what they think of when someone from Baylor reaches out to them about playing here.
Top 20 program? 1 year out of 8 does not = dynasty. 1951 & 2014 are our only Top 10 finishes


Heisman? These recruits were in elementary school back then.

Cool uniforms?????? Who cares? Schools that honor and respect tradition (Alabama, Penn State, etc.) Don't care about uniforms.




Yes top program. High school players think of rankings throughout the year not just the final rankings.

Yes a heisman. They may have been in elementary school but that is when many of them probably started paying attention to college football.

Uniforms do matter to high school recruits. A lot.

Funny that the 2 schools you mention are blue bloods. Not schools competing for the recruits against the blue bloods.
It's all about the FINAL rankings and how you performed in your upper tier bowl game. What do you do on the Big Stage?

RG3 and Manziel are nearly forgotten already!

So we are losing recruits because of uniforms? Right.

We compete for recruits with everybody. Winning and winning big matters. Uniforms don't make the player.
Sorry but you have no clue what you are talking about or what high school kids think/care about.
What? Are you a tuba player at Riesel High or flute player at Clifton High?


So Thee what do think of water ballon fights and ice cream sandwiches?
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Thee University said:

ColomboLQ said:

Thee University said:

ColomboLQ said:

D. C. Bear said:

57Bear said:

Some coaches are able to achieve wins by building a game plan that capitalizes on the talent that is available.




...and some coaches go 4-8 two years in a row while the get the talent lined up.
It's sad that we are left wishing to be able to go 4-8 again.
What is sad is not having another RG3 coming up. They tend to make things a little easier.
Yes they do, especially when you know how to use them properly. Talent that is misused doesn't make a lick of difference. You are right though, it's a real mark against the previous coaching staff that they couldn't recruit and develop a guy like RG3. Oh wait.
You think RG3 was developed?
I really hope this isn't a serious question.
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The Liberty loss was inexcusable. Our defense played like complete **** that night. It was like the script flipped afterward, but it was pathetic. I still think Rhule needs three years. He said it himself, this year's goal is a bowl game: six wins. If he fails to achieve that, he's in the hot seat next year.

With the talent he's brought in and the time he's had in the offseason to work out any kinks, we should be better. Hell, if he loses to ACU or UTSA (again) he should resign.
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JBear14 said:

The Liberty loss was inexcusable. Our defense played like complete **** that night. It was like the script flipped afterward, but it was pathetic. I still think Rhule needs three years. He said it himself, this year's goal is a bowl game: six wins. If he fails to achieve that, he's in the hot seat next year.

With the talent he's brought in and the time he's had in the offseason to work out any kinks, we should be better. Hell, if he loses to ACU or UTSA (again) he should resign.
This year should be make or break for CMR.
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JBear14 said:

The Liberty loss was inexcusable. Our defense played like complete **** that night. It was like the script flipped afterward, but it was pathetic. I still think Rhule needs three years. He said it himself, this year's goal is a bowl game: six wins. If he fails to achieve that, he's in the hot seat next year.

With the talent he's brought in and the time he's had in the offseason to work out any kinks, we should be better. Hell, if he loses to ACU or UTSA (again) he should resign.


His contract is gaurunteed for years. The buyout would be huge. Which coach would you replace him with, and how do you get them to play for free?
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Thee University said:

cowboycwr said:

Thee University said:

PartyBear said:

Players the age of recruits around the country only have a memory of Baylor being a top 10 program, a Heisman winner and cool uniforms. That is still what they think of when someone from Baylor reaches out to them about playing here.
Top 20 program? 1 year out of 8 does not = dynasty. 1951 & 2014 are our only Top 10 finishes


Heisman? These recruits were in elementary school back then.

Cool uniforms?????? Who cares? Schools that honor and respect tradition (Alabama, Penn State, etc.) Don't care about uniforms.




Yes top program. High school players think of rankings throughout the year not just the final rankings.

Yes a heisman. They may have been in elementary school but that is when many of them probably started paying attention to college football.

Uniforms do matter to high school recruits. A lot.

Funny that the 2 schools you mention are blue bloods. Not schools competing for the recruits against the blue bloods.
It's all about the FINAL rankings and how you performed in your upper tier bowl game. What do you do on the Big Stage?

RG3 and Manziel are nearly forgotten already!

So we are losing recruits because of uniforms? Right.

We compete for recruits with everybody. Winning and winning big matters. Uniforms don't make the player.
you must have missed the A&M spring game coverage where they salivated over Johnny Football... not forgotten by a long shot
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Thee University said:

Doc Holliday said:

Thee University said:

ShooterTX said:

PartyBear said:

I said the brand built up under Briles is still fueling some of our recruiting.


If that's true, then why did so many players bail out? Why did we only have 1 recruit when Rhule arrived? If you're correct, then we wouldn't have lost Stidham or all those incoming freshmen in 2016.
The Briles brand left when he was fired. It's a sad thing, but it's time to move on.
It took CAB a few years to build his program. It took Rhule a few years at Temple, and it will take a few years at Baylor.
The Briles brand was poisoned.

These Briles suck ups are exactly like a beaten and bruised NFL, NBA or MLB wife. They get the piss beat out of them yet keep coming back and publically "supporting" the gravy train.

Rhule has had 1 year under horrendous circumstances.
Questions:

Does Rhule currently have horrendous circumstances?

If he doesn't, and we lose to UTSA...does your opinion of Rhule change?
They are better now but not great. The BU fan base is disloyal and still in the beaten NBA, NFL, MLB wife syndrome.

If we lose to UTSA this year, yes.


This be truth.
Problem I see is that Matt has a seven year contract. That may prove geniusmay prove stupid, especially for some deep pockets boosters who will be asked to throw good money after bad. Hopefully, it won't come to that.
"This year is critical" seems a dumb comment but not much else need be said. Rhule may turn the ship and find BU is a wonderful place for a coaching career. And we may whip him like a rented mule to where the Browns seem a better coaching venue, regardless of his success here.
Personally, I think Baylor folks will run him off, and I don't mean university admins or staffers.
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Doc Holliday said:

GoldMind said:

CorsicanaBear said:

Briles I no longer care about, he's gone.

Unless CMR can go 6-6 this season he is Steele 2.0, or Beall 3.0 and should be shown the door.

You have to admit 1-11 and a loss to Liberty is one hell of a calling card and certainly ought to make us feel confident.

Are you guys still down with the process if we go 3-9? 2-10? I mean the percentage improvements would be huge.


Who would you replace him with if he's shown the door? That's what the **** I want to hear from y'all.

Dabo?
Bellichick?
Tom Landry?
Les Miles
Great example. Where exactly is he coaching?
ShooterTX
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jbbear said:

Doc Holliday said:

GoldMind said:

CorsicanaBear said:

Briles I no longer care about, he's gone.

Unless CMR can go 6-6 this season he is Steele 2.0, or Beall 3.0 and should be shown the door.

You have to admit 1-11 and a loss to Liberty is one hell of a calling card and certainly ought to make us feel confident.

Are you guys still down with the process if we go 3-9? 2-10? I mean the percentage improvements would be huge.


Who would you replace him with if he's shown the door? That's what the **** I want to hear from y'all.

Dabo?
Bellichick?
Tom Landry?
Les Miles
Great example. Where exactly is he coaching?
Les Miles was specifically fired for sticking with an old school type of offense, and rejecting new styles like the CAB spread. I thought you guys mostly complained about CMR wanting to develop the run game, at the expense of the spread? How does Les Miles solve that for you?
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ShooterTX said:

jbbear said:

Doc Holliday said:

GoldMind said:

CorsicanaBear said:

Briles I no longer care about, he's gone.

Unless CMR can go 6-6 this season he is Steele 2.0, or Beall 3.0 and should be shown the door.

You have to admit 1-11 and a loss to Liberty is one hell of a calling card and certainly ought to make us feel confident.

Are you guys still down with the process if we go 3-9? 2-10? I mean the percentage improvements would be huge.


Who would you replace him with if he's shown the door? That's what the **** I want to hear from y'all.

Dabo?
Bellichick?
Tom Landry?
Les Miles
Great example. Where exactly is he coaching?
Les Miles was specifically fired for sticking with an old school type of offense, and rejecting new styles like the CAB spread. I thought you guys mostly complained about CMR wanting to develop the run game, at the expense of the spread? How does Les Miles solve that for you?



Those guys mostly complained about 1-11.
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witchmo said:

Thee University said:

Doc Holliday said:

Thee University said:

ShooterTX said:

PartyBear said:

I said the brand built up under Briles is still fueling some of our recruiting.


If that's true, then why did so many players bail out? Why did we only have 1 recruit when Rhule arrived? If you're correct, then we wouldn't have lost Stidham or all those incoming freshmen in 2016.
The Briles brand left when he was fired. It's a sad thing, but it's time to move on.
It took CAB a few years to build his program. It took Rhule a few years at Temple, and it will take a few years at Baylor.
The Briles brand was poisoned.

These Briles suck ups are exactly like a beaten and bruised NFL, NBA or MLB wife. They get the piss beat out of them yet keep coming back and publically "supporting" the gravy train.

Rhule has had 1 year under horrendous circumstances.
Questions:

Does Rhule currently have horrendous circumstances?

If he doesn't, and we lose to UTSA...does your opinion of Rhule change?
They are better now but not great. The BU fan base is disloyal and still in the beaten NBA, NFL, MLB wife syndrome.

If we lose to UTSA this year, yes.
Personally, I think Baylor folks will run him off, and I don't mean university admins or staffers.

Thats a fair prediction and it might be right. Anything but returning to the success levels before May 16' (or the choke game at Texas in Oct 16') will bring resentment and anger. Might not be fair to the current coaches but thats probably the way it is.
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ShooterTX said:

jbbear said:

Doc Holliday said:

GoldMind said:

CorsicanaBear said:

Briles I no longer care about, he's gone.

Unless CMR can go 6-6 this season he is Steele 2.0, or Beall 3.0 and should be shown the door.

You have to admit 1-11 and a loss to Liberty is one hell of a calling card and certainly ought to make us feel confident.

Are you guys still down with the process if we go 3-9? 2-10? I mean the percentage improvements would be huge.


Who would you replace him with if he's shown the door? That's what the **** I want to hear from y'all.

Dabo?
Bellichick?
Tom Landry?
Les Miles
Great example. Where exactly is he coaching?
Les Miles was specifically fired for sticking with an old school type of offense, and rejecting new styles like the CAB spread. I thought you guys mostly complained about CMR wanting to develop the run game, at the expense of the spread? How does Les Miles solve that for you?

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/les-miles-studying-baylor-offense-to-get-ready-for-2017-coaching-carousel/
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." ~ John Adams
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witchm said:


Personally, I think Baylor folks will run him off, and I don't mean university admins or staffers.
Do you think Baylor folks will run him off while Rhoades is still AD?
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57Bear said:

witchm said:


Personally, I think Baylor folks will run him off, and I don't mean university admins or staffers.
Do you think Baylor folks will run him off while Rhoades is still AD?


No...I really think he'll get enough of Baylor fans that he'll figure the pros are much greener and move on rather than stick with us on a long-term basis. His relationship with the AD and admin is intact and stable.
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Doc Holliday said:

ShooterTX said:

jbbear said:

Doc Holliday said:

GoldMind said:

CorsicanaBear said:

Briles I no longer care about, he's gone.

Unless CMR can go 6-6 this season he is Steele 2.0, or Beall 3.0 and should be shown the door.

You have to admit 1-11 and a loss to Liberty is one hell of a calling card and certainly ought to make us feel confident.

Are you guys still down with the process if we go 3-9? 2-10? I mean the percentage improvements would be huge.


Who would you replace him with if he's shown the door? That's what the **** I want to hear from y'all.

Dabo?
Bellichick?
Tom Landry?
Les Miles
Great example. Where exactly is he coaching?
Les Miles was specifically fired for sticking with an old school type of offense, and rejecting new styles like the CAB spread. I thought you guys mostly complained about CMR wanting to develop the run game, at the expense of the spread? How does Les Miles solve that for you?

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/les-miles-studying-baylor-offense-to-get-ready-for-2017-coaching-carousel/


So glad he figured it out... a little late, but cool. So how is that high powered offense working at his new job?
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ShooterTX said:

Doc Holliday said:

ShooterTX said:

jbbear said:

Doc Holliday said:

GoldMind said:

CorsicanaBear said:

Briles I no longer care about, he's gone.

Unless CMR can go 6-6 this season he is Steele 2.0, or Beall 3.0 and should be shown the door.

You have to admit 1-11 and a loss to Liberty is one hell of a calling card and certainly ought to make us feel confident.

Are you guys still down with the process if we go 3-9? 2-10? I mean the percentage improvements would be huge.


Who would you replace him with if he's shown the door? That's what the **** I want to hear from y'all.

Dabo?
Bellichick?
Tom Landry?
Les Miles
Great example. Where exactly is he coaching?
Les Miles was specifically fired for sticking with an old school type of offense, and rejecting new styles like the CAB spread. I thought you guys mostly complained about CMR wanting to develop the run game, at the expense of the spread? How does Les Miles solve that for you?

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/les-miles-studying-baylor-offense-to-get-ready-for-2017-coaching-carousel/


So glad he figured it out... a little late, but cool. So how is that high powered offense working at his new job?
He currently doesn't coach.

And to blow your mind...he's actually acting now. Not joking.

https://www.si.com/college-football/2018/03/30/lsu-les-miles-acting-movie-angry-men
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." ~ John Adams
TexasScientist
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Doc Holliday said:

ShooterTX said:

Doc Holliday said:

ShooterTX said:

jbbear said:

Doc Holliday said:

GoldMind said:

CorsicanaBear said:

Briles I no longer care about, he's gone.

Unless CMR can go 6-6 this season he is Steele 2.0, or Beall 3.0 and should be shown the door.

You have to admit 1-11 and a loss to Liberty is one hell of a calling card and certainly ought to make us feel confident.

Are you guys still down with the process if we go 3-9? 2-10? I mean the percentage improvements would be huge.


Who would you replace him with if he's shown the door? That's what the **** I want to hear from y'all.

Dabo?
Bellichick?
Tom Landry?
Les Miles
Great example. Where exactly is he coaching?
Les Miles was specifically fired for sticking with an old school type of offense, and rejecting new styles like the CAB spread. I thought you guys mostly complained about CMR wanting to develop the run game, at the expense of the spread? How does Les Miles solve that for you?

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/les-miles-studying-baylor-offense-to-get-ready-for-2017-coaching-carousel/


So glad he figured it out... a little late, but cool. So how is that high powered offense working at his new job?
He currently doesn't coach.

And to blow your mind...he's actually acting now. Not joking.

https://www.si.com/college-football/2018/03/30/lsu-les-miles-acting-movie-angry-men
Back when it was rumored that Baylor, might be looking at him, as the article says, he was already saying that the dynamics of offensive coaching required change. He is one of the one's I thought Baylor should try to hire. I still think they should ditch CMR for Miles. Miles has a proven record, and has enough sense to know that to compete at the power 5 level, and in the Big 12, you have to go to an explosive offense. CMR doesn't appear to get it yet. I think Miles can recruit as well or even better than CMR.
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TexasScientist said:

Doc Holliday said:

ShooterTX said:

Doc Holliday said:

ShooterTX said:

jbbear said:

Doc Holliday said:

GoldMind said:

CorsicanaBear said:

Briles I no longer care about, he's gone.

Unless CMR can go 6-6 this season he is Steele 2.0, or Beall 3.0 and should be shown the door.

You have to admit 1-11 and a loss to Liberty is one hell of a calling card and certainly ought to make us feel confident.

Are you guys still down with the process if we go 3-9? 2-10? I mean the percentage improvements would be huge.


Who would you replace him with if he's shown the door? That's what the **** I want to hear from y'all.

Dabo?
Bellichick?
Tom Landry?
Les Miles
Great example. Where exactly is he coaching?
Les Miles was specifically fired for sticking with an old school type of offense, and rejecting new styles like the CAB spread. I thought you guys mostly complained about CMR wanting to develop the run game, at the expense of the spread? How does Les Miles solve that for you?

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/les-miles-studying-baylor-offense-to-get-ready-for-2017-coaching-carousel/


So glad he figured it out... a little late, but cool. So how is that high powered offense working at his new job?
He currently doesn't coach.

And to blow your mind...he's actually acting now. Not joking.

https://www.si.com/college-football/2018/03/30/lsu-les-miles-acting-movie-angry-men
Back when it was rumored that Baylor, might be looking at him, as the article says, he was already saying that the dynamics of offensive coaching required change. He is one of the one's I thought Baylor should try to hire. I still think they should ditch CMR for Miles. Miles has a proven record, and has enough sense to know that to compete at the power 5 level, and in the Big 12, you have to go to an explosive offense. CMR doesn't appear to get it yet. I think Miles can recruit as well or even better than CMR.


We had an "explosive" offense last season, just not enough of it, particularly as key "explosive" players were lost to injuries. He was not running Georgia Tech or 1990s Nebraska. We were 10th nationally in plays of 40 yards or more. Our main problems came with the inability to pick up first downs running the ball in short yardage situations in third down. We picked up more first downs passing on third and less than three yards to go passing (11 on 18 attempts) than rushing (8 on 23 attempts). Not sure how many of those were RPOs, but you have to be able to pick up a yard or two to keep drives going. This is where we will see the most improvement next year with a better offensive line and more experienced running backs. That will make a huge difference in offensive production.

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TexasScientist said:

Doc Holliday said:

ShooterTX said:

Doc Holliday said:

ShooterTX said:

jbbear said:

Doc Holliday said:

GoldMind said:

CorsicanaBear said:

Briles I no longer care about, he's gone.

Unless CMR can go 6-6 this season he is Steele 2.0, or Beall 3.0 and should be shown the door.

You have to admit 1-11 and a loss to Liberty is one hell of a calling card and certainly ought to make us feel confident.

Are you guys still down with the process if we go 3-9? 2-10? I mean the percentage improvements would be huge.


Who would you replace him with if he's shown the door? That's what the **** I want to hear from y'all.

Dabo?
Bellichick?
Tom Landry?
Les Miles
Great example. Where exactly is he coaching?
Les Miles was specifically fired for sticking with an old school type of offense, and rejecting new styles like the CAB spread. I thought you guys mostly complained about CMR wanting to develop the run game, at the expense of the spread? How does Les Miles solve that for you?

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/les-miles-studying-baylor-offense-to-get-ready-for-2017-coaching-carousel/


So glad he figured it out... a little late, but cool. So how is that high powered offense working at his new job?
He currently doesn't coach.

And to blow your mind...he's actually acting now. Not joking.

https://www.si.com/college-football/2018/03/30/lsu-les-miles-acting-movie-angry-men
Back when it was rumored that Baylor, might be looking at him, as the article says, he was already saying that the dynamics of offensive coaching required change. He is one of the one's I thought Baylor should try to hire. I still think they should ditch CMR for Miles. Miles has a proven record, and has enough sense to know that to compete at the power 5 level, and in the Big 12, you have to go to an explosive offense. CMR doesn't appear to get it yet. I think Miles can recruit as well or even better than CMR.
Well he didnt seem to learn this until LSU fired him. LSU folks were trying for a few years to get him to understand this so they wouldnt have to make that move. Hence I'm not sure if he really has learned he needed to do this or if he is just all talk like Rhule apparently was with Rhoades.
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57Bear said:

witchm said:


Personally, I think Baylor folks will run him off, and I don't mean university admins or staffers.
Do you think Baylor folks will run him off while Rhoades is still AD?
Why not? They ran Briles off while McCaw was still AD. Yes,or no?
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bearlyafarmer said:

57Bear said:

witchm said:


Personally, I think Baylor folks will run him off, and I don't mean university admins or staffers.
Do you think Baylor folks will run him off while Rhoades is still AD?
Why not? They ran Briles off while McCaw was still AD. Yes,or no?


I seem to recall Art did not leave on his own accord. You know..wasn't his choice, and all that.

So far as Rhule is concerned, it would take a "disaster" for BU to fire him, and last year doesn't rise to that level despite what you think. Because of his 7 year contract, he is here for the foreseeable future, even if he is "medio". Now, if you got lots of jack and are willing to "hire" yourself a personal "coach", that might rearrange the deck a bit but the historical patrons aren't lining up to do that. The recent decade of financial dalliances has seen to that for the present.

I'd like to see the Vegas odds on Rhule having a pretty good record in '18 and a strong one in '19 and then leaving on his own at that time.
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What most of ya'll are glancing over or not aware of: CFB is collapsing down to 32 teams.
If we continue to lose and CFB naturally restructures to protect blue bloods...will we be left out of a power 5?

There is a time limit on winning. We need to be top 20 ASAP.
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." ~ John Adams
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Doc Holliday said:

What most of ya'll are glancing over or not aware of: CFB is collapsing down to 32 teams.
If we continue to lose and CFB naturally restructures to protect blue bloods...will we be left out of a power 5?

There is a time limit on winning. We need to be top 20 ASAP.


ESPN may eventually force this, but coaches, ADs, school presidents, etc should fight this as hard as they can. They'd have to average .500 overall, and that would lead to constant turnover among those positions for as long as it takes boosters at Michigan, UT, Alabama, USC, etc to be ok with some 4-8 years.
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Rhule stated in an interview with Smoak that he was not "resolute" enough in what he wanted to do last year. Rhule said he bent last year. All this was to say that this year, he's going to coach the way he wants to coach. Sheesh!
 
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