Yogi said:My guess would be to add another 150,000 to the metro and/or improve the per capita income.ButterflyFX said:
What do we have to do to get a Pappadeaux's?
I wouldn't say never. I never thought PF Chang's would open a Waco restaurant. I thought we would never see Saltgrass or Chuy's in Waco and those stores developed.ButterflyFX said:Yogi said:My guess would be to add another 150,000 to the metro and/or improve the per capita income.ButterflyFX said:
What do we have to do to get a Pappadeaux's?
In other words NEVER.
That is somewhat true. Actually we are normally the 2nd spots for things that originate in the Temple/Killeen market as the demographics are much more similar to Waco than Lubbock. Typically they start in Temple/Killeen due to the higher population density in that county and then move to Waco if they are successful. Bryan/College Station is also another starter for Waco(see Saltgrass).Yogi said:I wouldn't say never. I never thought PF Chang's would open a Waco restaurant. I thought we would never see Saltgrass or Chuy's in Waco and those stores developed.ButterflyFX said:Yogi said:My guess would be to add another 150,000 to the metro and/or improve the per capita income.ButterflyFX said:
What do we have to do to get a Pappadeaux's?
In other words NEVER.
I just think Pappa's is still evaluating the market. They can move whenever they want because they don't have to. Many times getting into the market can be as simple as getting a good deal on a piece of land or a lease for a building. It could also be that Pappa's is evaluating which concept would be the best fit for the area.
Watch Lubbock. It is a city in Waco's population demographic that typically gets a store right before Waco does. That is because it is more of a "hub city" out in West Texas. However, whenever a company or franchiser places a store in Lubbock, they usually follow with stores in the Waco and Tyler markets.
Well, Bell County is still waiting for Saltgrass.loanbear said:That is somewhat true. Actually we are normally the 2nd spots for things that originate in the Temple/Killeen market as the demographics are much more similar to Waco than Lubbock. Typically they start in Temple/Killeen due to the higher population density in that county and then move to Waco if they are successful. Bryan/College Station is also another starter for Waco(see Saltgrass).Yogi said:I wouldn't say never. I never thought PF Chang's would open a Waco restaurant. I thought we would never see Saltgrass or Chuy's in Waco and those stores developed.ButterflyFX said:Yogi said:My guess would be to add another 150,000 to the metro and/or improve the per capita income.ButterflyFX said:
What do we have to do to get a Pappadeaux's?
In other words NEVER.
I just think Pappa's is still evaluating the market. They can move whenever they want because they don't have to. Many times getting into the market can be as simple as getting a good deal on a piece of land or a lease for a building. It could also be that Pappa's is evaluating which concept would be the best fit for the area.
Watch Lubbock. It is a city in Waco's population demographic that typically gets a store right before Waco does. That is because it is more of a "hub city" out in West Texas. However, whenever a company or franchiser places a store in Lubbock, they usually follow with stores in the Waco and Tyler markets.
Ok, I'll try to be patient. I figured since Beaumont had one, surely we had a chance.Yogi said:Well, Bell County is still waiting for Saltgrass.loanbear said:That is somewhat true. Actually we are normally the 2nd spots for things that originate in the Temple/Killeen market as the demographics are much more similar to Waco than Lubbock. Typically they start in Temple/Killeen due to the higher population density in that county and then move to Waco if they are successful. Bryan/College Station is also another starter for Waco(see Saltgrass).Yogi said:I wouldn't say never. I never thought PF Chang's would open a Waco restaurant. I thought we would never see Saltgrass or Chuy's in Waco and those stores developed.ButterflyFX said:Yogi said:My guess would be to add another 150,000 to the metro and/or improve the per capita income.ButterflyFX said:
What do we have to do to get a Pappadeaux's?
In other words NEVER.
I just think Pappa's is still evaluating the market. They can move whenever they want because they don't have to. Many times getting into the market can be as simple as getting a good deal on a piece of land or a lease for a building. It could also be that Pappa's is evaluating which concept would be the best fit for the area.
Watch Lubbock. It is a city in Waco's population demographic that typically gets a store right before Waco does. That is because it is more of a "hub city" out in West Texas. However, whenever a company or franchiser places a store in Lubbock, they usually follow with stores in the Waco and Tyler markets.
Three concepts that have recently opened in Bell County that have not yet made it into McLennan include Zaxby's (2 locations), MOD Pizza and Red Robin burgers. But, many times, Waco serves as the starter for Temple/ Kileen as well. I think that's because Waco is generally under the same contract for most franchisees as Temple/ Killeen.
Not sure about the latter two, but Zaxby's should be breaking into the Baylor area soon. MOD pizza is very similar to Pie 5, so I am not sure how that's going to work out, and I have no idea about Red Robin's plans in McLennan County.
Waco already got a second Denny's, so I am good to go up there...
WILLIS said:
Unless it's fried shrimp, fried catfish, farmed tilapia, fried XYZ, cajun crawfish joint with a side of hush puppies and french fries.... Not gonna work. Fresh seafood is way too expensive and not enough portions to keep the above average sized Joe Waco uncomfortably full. If he was served a 12 oz piece of grilled sea bass for $35 with a side of rice, he would burn the place down. Go on Yelp and type in Seafood for Waco. Every picture is a piece of something fried besides a crawfish.
Yogi said:Well, Bell County is still waiting for Saltgrass.loanbear said:That is somewhat true. Actually we are normally the 2nd spots for things that originate in the Temple/Killeen market as the demographics are much more similar to Waco than Lubbock. Typically they start in Temple/Killeen due to the higher population density in that county and then move to Waco if they are successful. Bryan/College Station is also another starter for Waco(see Saltgrass).Yogi said:I wouldn't say never. I never thought PF Chang's would open a Waco restaurant. I thought we would never see Saltgrass or Chuy's in Waco and those stores developed.ButterflyFX said:Yogi said:My guess would be to add another 150,000 to the metro and/or improve the per capita income.ButterflyFX said:
What do we have to do to get a Pappadeaux's?
In other words NEVER.
I just think Pappa's is still evaluating the market. They can move whenever they want because they don't have to. Many times getting into the market can be as simple as getting a good deal on a piece of land or a lease for a building. It could also be that Pappa's is evaluating which concept would be the best fit for the area.
Watch Lubbock. It is a city in Waco's population demographic that typically gets a store right before Waco does. That is because it is more of a "hub city" out in West Texas. However, whenever a company or franchiser places a store in Lubbock, they usually follow with stores in the Waco and Tyler markets.
WILLIS said:
Unless it's fried shrimp, fried catfish, farmed tilapia, fried XYZ, cajun crawfish joint with a side of hush puppies and french fries.... Not gonna work. Fresh seafood is way too expensive and not enough portions to keep the above average sized Joe Waco uncomfortably full. If he was served a 12 oz piece of grilled sea bass for $35 with a side of rice, he would burn the place down. Go on Yelp and type in Seafood for Waco. Every picture is a piece of something fried besides a crawfish.
Gunny Hartman said:Yogi said:Well, Bell County is still waiting for Saltgrass.loanbear said:That is somewhat true. Actually we are normally the 2nd spots for things that originate in the Temple/Killeen market as the demographics are much more similar to Waco than Lubbock. Typically they start in Temple/Killeen due to the higher population density in that county and then move to Waco if they are successful. Bryan/College Station is also another starter for Waco(see Saltgrass).Yogi said:I wouldn't say never. I never thought PF Chang's would open a Waco restaurant. I thought we would never see Saltgrass or Chuy's in Waco and those stores developed.ButterflyFX said:Yogi said:My guess would be to add another 150,000 to the metro and/or improve the per capita income.ButterflyFX said:
What do we have to do to get a Pappadeaux's?
In other words NEVER.
I just think Pappa's is still evaluating the market. They can move whenever they want because they don't have to. Many times getting into the market can be as simple as getting a good deal on a piece of land or a lease for a building. It could also be that Pappa's is evaluating which concept would be the best fit for the area.
Watch Lubbock. It is a city in Waco's population demographic that typically gets a store right before Waco does. That is because it is more of a "hub city" out in West Texas. However, whenever a company or franchiser places a store in Lubbock, they usually follow with stores in the Waco and Tyler markets.
There are people in this world that are "waiting" for a Saltgrass?? Do these same folks also enjoy dining on shoe leather?
Wacolegend said:WILLIS said:
Unless it's fried shrimp, fried catfish, farmed tilapia, fried XYZ, cajun crawfish joint with a side of hush puppies and french fries.... Not gonna work. Fresh seafood is way too expensive and not enough portions to keep the above average sized Joe Waco uncomfortably full. If he was served a 12 oz piece of grilled sea bass for $35 with a side of rice, he would burn the place down. Go on Yelp and type in Seafood for Waco. Every picture is a piece of something fried besides a crawfish.
Fact - growing up in Waco good seafood just wasn't a thing, we never went out for it. I have 0% taste for seafood as a result. They started putting decent fish dishes on the menu at Ridgewood over the last decade or so. Other than that I can't think of a place that's served seafood less than $40 a plate, or more than $10 for shrimp/crawfish/catfish. I don't know how you bring reasonably priced seafood to Waco, you'll be stuck between extremes.
I mean we have like 2 dedicated sushi places though so I feel like that's really cool...Gunny Hartman said:
Waco is a seafood Wasteland. Even worse than Dallas. And it's a tragedy.
Signed,
Someone who grew up on the Gulf Coast
Gunny Hartman said:
Waco is a seafood Wasteland. Even worse than Dallas. And it's a tragedy.
Signed,
Someone who grew up in the armpit of the Gulf Coast
Wacolegend said:WILLIS said:
Unless it's fried shrimp, fried catfish, farmed tilapia, fried XYZ, cajun crawfish joint with a side of hush puppies and french fries.... Not gonna work. Fresh seafood is way too expensive and not enough portions to keep the above average sized Joe Waco uncomfortably full. If he was served a 12 oz piece of grilled sea bass for $35 with a side of rice, he would burn the place down. Go on Yelp and type in Seafood for Waco. Every picture is a piece of something fried besides a crawfish.
Fact - growing up in Waco good seafood just wasn't a thing, we never went out for it. I have 0% taste for seafood as a result. They started putting decent fish dishes on the menu at Ridgewood over the last decade or so. Other than that I can't think of a place that's served seafood less than $40 a plate, or more than $10 for shrimp/crawfish/catfish. I don't know how you bring reasonably priced seafood to Waco, you'll be stuck between extremes.
This. It's part of a cycle. It was good for Waco, but we'll see if Waco is the focus as they try to evolve their brand/business. Especially as the spotlight starts to fade on them. I wouldn't be surprised to see them move their focus/base to a more metropolitan area in an effort to keep their brand relevant. I'm not saying they would shutter Waco operations with their store, but Waco may not be the focus going forward for them.GhettoHEBear said:True. But their show is done. And shiplap, big wall clocks, and cutesy hand painted signs won't be in style forever. It's a cultural sensation for women everywhere but in a few years Chips 'n JoJo are gonna be a trivia question.Tenacious D said:
Development or not, I know of multiple people here in Chicago and in other parts of the US that have gone, or plan to travel to Waco. And it is for one reason (sorry, not to catch a game at Baylor) and I am sure you all know what that reason is.
So there are people coming to Waco already...and to further development & enhance that downtown & riverfront will only make it more pleasant for out of towners.
Brian Ethridge said:Gunny Hartman said:
Waco is a seafood Wasteland. Even worse than Dallas. And it's a tragedy.
Signed,
Someone who grew up in the armpit of the Gulf Coast
FIFY
G-Town!
Totally agree. Never had a bad meal there.Yogi said:
Since it is Lent and all, one of Waco's best seafood places right now, in my opinion, is "The Catch" on Valley Mills Drive near Wooded Acres.
In terms of price and quality, think of it as well above Long John Silver's but less than Red Lobster. (I realize that isn't saying much.)
That said, the place is good. It's a great place for lunch if you are in the area.
It's a niche restaurant that really fills a void in the market.
Yogi said:
Since it is Lent and all, one of Waco's best seafood places right now, in my opinion, is "The Catch" on Valley Mills Drive near Wooded Acres.
In terms of price and quality, think of it as well above Long John Silver's but less than Red Lobster. (I realize that isn't saying much.)
That said, the place is good. It's a great place for lunch if you are in the area.
It's a niche restaurant that really fills a void in the market.
I don't compare Waco's seafood to what I can get on the coast. I compare it to what I can get in other Texas cities its size. Want to complain about seafood in Waco? Try finding any seafood at all outside a Killeen sushi bar or Red Lobster in the Killeen-Temple-Fort Hood metro.baylrballa said:Yogi said:
Since it is Lent and all, one of Waco's best seafood places right now, in my opinion, is "The Catch" on Valley Mills Drive near Wooded Acres.
In terms of price and quality, think of it as well above Long John Silver's but less than Red Lobster. (I realize that isn't saying much.)
That said, the place is good. It's a great place for lunch if you are in the area.
It's a niche restaurant that really fills a void in the market.
the catch is very "waco" seafood. I've enjoyed it every time though. Same with Tejun Cajun.
Major key alertWILLIS said:
Dead Fish Grill in Belton is not bad at all (though it's been a couple years since I've been). It's on Lake Belton with great views. Check it out. They've got a nice variety of the good fried stuff and then a good selection of grilled/blackened snapper, grouper, mahi mahi, etc all under $20 or so. Fresh oysters too. -- Something like that would do well in Waco I have to think. A nice tweener seafood establishment. Anyways, more important stuff to worry about in Waco like $50k+ jobs. All that nice stuff follows when the good jobs and under 30's singles decide to stick around town after graduation.
I love Dead Fish.WILLIS said:
Dead Fish Grill in Belton is not bad at all (though it's been a couple years since I've been). It's on Lake Belton with great views. Check it out. They've got a nice variety of the good fried stuff and then a good selection of grilled/blackened snapper, grouper, mahi mahi, etc all under $20 or so. Fresh oysters too. -- Something like that would do well in Waco I have to think. A nice tweener seafood establishment. Anyways, more important stuff to worry about in Waco like $50k+ jobs. All that nice stuff follows when the good jobs and under 30's singles decide to stick around town after graduation.
Yogi said:I love Dead Fish.WILLIS said:
Dead Fish Grill in Belton is not bad at all (though it's been a couple years since I've been). It's on Lake Belton with great views. Check it out. They've got a nice variety of the good fried stuff and then a good selection of grilled/blackened snapper, grouper, mahi mahi, etc all under $20 or so. Fresh oysters too. -- Something like that would do well in Waco I have to think. A nice tweener seafood establishment. Anyways, more important stuff to worry about in Waco like $50k+ jobs. All that nice stuff follows when the good jobs and under 30's singles decide to stick around town after graduation.
Get the reverse nachos as an appetizer. Great stuff!!!
The last thing I remember about Buzzard's is the 3 wise men at a friend's 21st birthday. They serve food too?FirmBear24 said:
Buzzard's has been in Waco for how long? It has a lot of blackened dishes, crawfish, and etoufee. Pappadeaux does all those things infinitely better plus fried dishes and po-boys. It would be popular at lunch and weekends, especially during Baylor events.
The Catch is also in Killeen. I haven't been yet, but I hear it is also pretty good.Yogi said:I don't compare Waco's seafood to what I can get on the coast. I compare it to what I can get in other Texas cities its size. Want to complain about seafood in Waco? Try finding any seafood at all outside a Killeen sushi bar or Red Lobster in the Killeen-Temple-Fort Hood metro.baylrballa said:Yogi said:
Since it is Lent and all, one of Waco's best seafood places right now, in my opinion, is "The Catch" on Valley Mills Drive near Wooded Acres.
In terms of price and quality, think of it as well above Long John Silver's but less than Red Lobster. (I realize that isn't saying much.)
That said, the place is good. It's a great place for lunch if you are in the area.
It's a niche restaurant that really fills a void in the market.
the catch is very "waco" seafood. I've enjoyed it every time though. Same with Tejun Cajun.
It is even edible after a few 3 wise men and a 4 horsemen.DioNoZeus said:The last thing I remember about Buzzard's is the 3 wise men at a friend's 21st birthday. They serve food too?FirmBear24 said:
Buzzard's has been in Waco for how long? It has a lot of blackened dishes, crawfish, and etoufee. Pappadeaux does all those things infinitely better plus fried dishes and po-boys. It would be popular at lunch and weekends, especially during Baylor events.
BaylorGuy314 said:
Just a tidbit. An executive who works for Pappa's is moving from DFW to Waco. I wouldn't read into it much at all but you never know.
