HuMcK said:

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If the republicans weren't so spineless, these actions by the democrats would be the start of a slippery slope. The democrats know the republicans in power don't have the intestinal fortitude to take similar actions on political enemies. I'm not a fan of trump, but this is exactly why they are so scared of trump - he actually is as reckless as the democrats are when he comes to maintaining democracy and has the guts to take similar actions they would take.

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They investigated Hillary for essentially the same thing Trump is being investigated for now,

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Not even close to the same thing!

HRC had Special Access Program level data. SAPs "control access, distribution, and provide protection for sensitive classified information that exceeds" need-to-know basis.

She ordered her staff to physically destroy hard drives with hammers. Thousands upon thousands of emails were destroyed.

You support tyranny and this is your way of coping. Period.

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If the republicans weren't so spineless, these actions by the democrats would be the start of a slippery slope. The democrats know the republicans in power don't have the intestinal fortitude to take similar actions on political enemies. I'm not a fan of trump, but this is exactly why they are so scared of trump - he actually is as reckless as the democrats are when he comes to maintaining democracy and has the guts to take similar actions they would take.

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They investigated Hillary for essentially the same thing Trump is being investigated for now,

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Not even close to the same thing!

HRC had Special Access Program level data. SAPs "control access, distribution, and provide protection for sensitive classified information that exceeds" need-to-know basis/.

She ordered her staff to physically destroy hard drives with hammers. Thousands upon thousands of emails were destroyed.

You support tyranny and this is your way of coping. Period.

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Millions just like him.....all hoping for one party rule and socialism .

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Doc Holliday said:

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HuMcK said:

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If the republicans weren't so spineless, these actions by the democrats would be the start of a slippery slope. The democrats know the republicans in power don't have the intestinal fortitude to take similar actions on political enemies. I'm not a fan of trump, but this is exactly why they are so scared of trump - he actually is as reckless as the democrats are when he comes to maintaining democracy and has the guts to take similar actions they would take.

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They investigated Hillary for essentially the same thing Trump is being investigated for now,

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Not even close to the same thing!

HRC had Special Access Program level data. SAPs "control access, distribution, and provide protection for sensitive classified information that exceeds" need-to-know basis/.

She ordered her staff to physically destroy hard drives with hammers. Thousands upon thousands of emails were destroyed.

You support tyranny and this is your way of coping. Period.

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Millions just like him.....all hoping for one party rule and socialism .

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So they think. If they got one party rule, that party would turn on them.

Thank God R are better than this kind of circus. I have great cinfidence they will rise above petty paybacks and cheerleading sessions of lock them up chants and return the White houe and congress to respectful gov.

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Thank God R are better than this kind of circus. I have great cinfidence they will rise above petty paybacks and cheerleading sessions of lock them up chants and return the White houe and congress to respectful gov.

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You can't possibly support this raid.

The ramifications are deadly to any democracy .

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Canada2017 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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HuMcK said:

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contrario said:

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If the republicans weren't so spineless, these actions by the democrats would be the start of a slippery slope. The democrats know the republicans in power don't have the intestinal fortitude to take similar actions on political enemies. I'm not a fan of trump, but this is exactly why they are so scared of trump - he actually is as reckless as the democrats are when he comes to maintaining democracy and has the guts to take similar actions they would take.

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They investigated Hillary for essentially the same thing Trump is being investigated for now,

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Not even close to the same thing!

HRC had Special Access Program level data. SAPs "control access, distribution, and provide protection for sensitive classified information that exceeds" need-to-know basis/.

She ordered her staff to physically destroy hard drives with hammers. Thousands upon thousands of emails were destroyed.

You support tyranny and this is your way of coping. Period.

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Millions just like him.....all hoping for one party rule and socialism .

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So they think. If they got one party rule, that party would turn on them.

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They only believe there is one party who will fundamentally pay their way .

What do you all think the Justice Department should do if a former president illegally hoards classified documents?

Such a mess. These unruly politicians need to go. Both sides.
How bad will this get? Civil unrest to
Point of war? Who knows

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What do you all think the Justice Department should do if a former president illegally hoards classified documents?

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Burn em at the stake and destroy their property

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Sam Lowry said:

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What do you all think the Justice Department should do if a former president illegally hoards classified documents?

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Burn em at the stake and destroy their property

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A. The President has ultimate authority to declassify any documents .

B. Might as well start burning every Presidential Library in the country .

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What do you all think the Justice Department should do if a former president illegally hoards classified documents?

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Burn em at the stake and destroy their property

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A. The President has ultimate authority to declassify any documents .

B. Might as well start burning every Presidential Library in the country .

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Just a hint of sarcasm in my post.

Jonathan Turley: Laws on classified documents 'not known for robust criminal enforcement' https://t.co/WrEXWl7SI1

— Fox News (@FoxNews) August 9, 2022

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What do you all think the Justice Department should do if a former president illegally hoards classified documents?

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Burn em at the stake and destroy their property

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A. The President has ultimate authority to declassify any documents .

B. Might as well start burning every Presidential Library in the country .

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Just a hint of sarcasm in my post.

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My apologies .

Most folks don't realize presidents can de classify documents.

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What do you all think the Justice Department should do if a former president illegally hoards classified documents?

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Not raid a former President for inconsequential documents, especially after pleading guilty to fabrication of evidence (Clinesmith) towards that same President's campaign.

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Sam Lowry said:

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What do you all think the Justice Department should do if a former president illegally hoards classified documents?

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Burn em at the stake and destroy their property

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A. The President has ultimate authority to declassify any documents .

B. Might as well start burning every Presidential Library in the country .

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Just a hint of sarcasm in my post.

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My apologies .

Its so easy to miss the sarcasm icon .

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I noticed I left it out. Im kind of just a smartass most of the time.

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Sam Lowry said:

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What do you all think the Justice Department should do if a former president illegally hoards classified documents?

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Burn em at the stake and destroy their property

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A. The President has ultimate authority to declassify any documents .

B. Might as well start burning every Presidential Library in the country .

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Just a hint of sarcasm in my post.

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My apologies .

Its so easy to miss the sarcasm icon .

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Im kind of just a smartass most of the time.

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Aren't we all.

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Sam Lowry said:

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What do you all think the Justice Department should do if a former president illegally hoards classified documents?

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Burn em at the stake and destroy their property

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A. The President has ultimate authority to declassify any documents .

B. Might as well start burning every Presidential Library in the country .

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Just a hint of sarcasm in my post.

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My apologies .

Most folks don't realize presidents can de classify documents.

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A lot of folks still don't realize Trump isn't president.

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Thank God R are better than this kind of circus. I have great cinfidence they will rise above petty paybacks and cheerleading sessions of lock them up chants and return the White houe and congress to respectful gov.

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I guess we could all just sit back, not vote at all, and let a few people dictate what the policies and laws will affect our families for the next 4 years.

How has that worked out for you again?

Sam Lowry said:

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What do you all think the Justice Department should do if a former president illegally hoards classified documents?

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you mean the 15 boxes they turned over last January to NARA?

Sam Lowry said:

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What do you all think the Justice Department should do if a former president illegally hoards classified documents?

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Ignore you

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br53 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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What do you all think the Justice Department should do if a former president illegally hoards classified documents?

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Burn em at the stake and destroy their property

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A. The President has ultimate authority to declassify any documents .

B. Might as well start burning every Presidential Library in the country .

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Just a hint of sarcasm in my post.

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My apologies .

Most folks don't realize presidents can de classify documents.

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A lot of folks still don't realize Trump isn't president.

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dont worry, the TDS will wear off eventually.. we hope!

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The intensifying inquiry suggests that the Justice Department is examining the role of Mr. Trump and other officials in his White House in their handling of sensitive materials during the final stages of his administration.
In recent days, the Justice Department has taken a series of steps showing that its investigation has progressed beyond the preliminary stages. Prosecutors issued a subpoena to the National Archives and Records Administration to obtain the boxes of classified documents, according to the two people familiar with the matter, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation.


The authorities have also made interview requests to people who worked in the White House in the final days of Mr. Trump's presidency, according to one of the people.


The investigation is focused on the discovery by the National Archives in January that at the end of Mr. Trump's term he had taken to his home at the Mar-a-Lago resort 15 boxes from the White House that contained government documents, mementos, gifts and letters.

After the boxes were returned to the National Archives, its archivists found documents containing "items marked as classified national security information," the agency told Congress in February. In April, it was reported that federal authorities were in the preliminary stages of investigating the handling of the classified documents.

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So this article seems to say the 15 boxes had already been returned to the national archives, were there more boxes or something.

If there were more boxes could they not issue an additional subpeona to aquire those boxes, rather than a gestapo style raid, such as they just performed.

From the article above it seems they had complied with returning the 15 boxes. Wheras a Clinton would just destroy the information that was requested. Which they have done in the past.

Seems like a very shady action by the Justice Department.

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Sam Lowry said:

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What do you all think the Justice Department should do if a former president illegally hoards classified documents?

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you mean the ones they turned over last January to NARA?

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What do you think I mean?

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Sam Lowry said:

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What do you all think the Justice Department should do if a former president illegally hoards classified documents?

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you mean the ones they turned over last January to NARA?

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What do you think I mean?

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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The intensifying inquiry suggests that the Justice Department is examining the role of Mr. Trump and other officials in his White House in their handling of sensitive materials during the final stages of his administration.
In recent days, the Justice Department has taken a series of steps showing that its investigation has progressed beyond the preliminary stages. Prosecutors issued a subpoena to the National Archives and Records Administration to obtain the boxes of classified documents, according to the two people familiar with the matter, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation.


The authorities have also made interview requests to people who worked in the White House in the final days of Mr. Trump's presidency, according to one of the people.


The investigation is focused on the discovery by the National Archives in January that at the end of Mr. Trump's term he had taken to his home at the Mar-a-Lago resort 15 boxes from the White House that contained government documents, mementos, gifts and letters.

After the boxes were returned to the National Archives, its archivists found documents containing "items marked as classified national security information," the agency told Congress in February. In April, it was reported that federal authorities were in the preliminary stages of investigating the handling of the classified documents.

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So this article seems to say the 15 boxes had already been returned to the national archives, were there more boxes or something.

If there were more boxes could they not issue an additional subpeona to aquire those boxes, rather than a gestapo style raid, such as they just performed.

From the article above it seems they had complied with returning the 15 boxes. Wheras a Clinton would just destroy the information that was requested. Which they have done in the past.

Seems like a very shady action by the Justice Department.

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Trump did destroy some documents as well. The subpoena was directed to NARA. They can't be subpoenaed for documents that they don't possess or control.

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If the republicans weren't so spineless, these actions by the democrats would be the start of a slippery slope. The democrats know the republicans in power don't have the intestinal fortitude to take similar actions on political enemies. I'm not a fan of trump, but this is exactly why they are so scared of trump - he actually is as reckless as the democrats are when he comes to maintaining democracy and has the guts to take similar actions they would take.

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Republicans impeached Bill for lying about a blow job, an accusation that was spun out of multiple separate years long investigations. They investigated Hillary for essentially the same thing Trump is being investigated for now, which was spun out of one of a dozen or so partisan Benghazi investigations. That investigation and the GOP weaponization of it ("Hillary is days away from indictment, lock her up!") arguably handed Trump the election. Republicans have already gone on record that they will be holding Hunter Biden hearings when they take control of the House, hoping to spin off an allegation they can use against Joe.

But sure, if you pretend none of that ever happened, I suppose you could say the slippery slope just now started.

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Get back to me when republicans start raiding personal residences of and spying with federal government agencies on high-ranking political opponents. What republicans did 30 years ago to Clinton was political theater as they knew he would never get removed from office, but they just took advantage of public statements Clinton had made. Clearly not good form, but it's a whole different level of malfeasance to do what the democrats have done for the past 20 years.

And what Trump did to HRC was exactly my point. From the Clinton impeachment to Trump getting elected, the republicans were spineless. Even the Clinton impeachment was spineless as they knew it wouldn't actually do anything other than win a few political points.

Trump is finally playing the Democrats game and you guys on the extreme left are getting your panties in a wad.

For those of us that actually love our democracy, we hate what Trump stands for because he is really just a democrat in sheep's clothing and his lack of morals and any sense of political decency are evidence of that. For those of us that want our democracy to survive and continue to thrive, we wish both democrats and Trump would stop escalating it, but Trump is a creation of the Democrats. He is the response of a group of people that are tired of being pushed around. I don't agree with Trump or many of the people that vote for him, but I can understand their frustration. And it's actions like the democrats latest act that will continue to keep people like Trump in power.

I'm guessing it's possible, just maybe, because 15 boxes were already found, the FBI suspected there were more and a judge agreed.

Remember the president has the ability to declassify materials before leaving the White House. So this is even more dicey for the FBI and DOJ than usual, requiring real specifics. This is a narrow path of appropriate surrounded by a very slippery slope banana republic..

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Thank God R are better than this kind of circus. I have great cinfidence they will rise above petty paybacks and cheerleading sessions of lock them up chants and return the White houe and congress to respectful gov.

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You can't possibly support this raid.

The ramifications are deadly to any democracy .

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I dont. I didnt support the lock her up chants led by jail time Stone either or the constant fraudulent claims of a stolen election. I really think the R should pick itself up and become the party that stops wrestling in the mud and saves our country.

I dont hold much hope. Party shills will cry for retribution.

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Remember the president has the ability to declassify materials before leaving the White House. So this is even more dicey for the FBI and DOJ than usual, requiring real specifics. This is a narrow path of appropriate surrounded by a very slippery slope banana republic..

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What makes you think a president can take away unclassified documents?

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Canada2017 said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Thank God R are better than this kind of circus. I have great cinfidence they will rise above petty paybacks and cheerleading sessions of lock them up chants and return the White houe and congress to respectful gov.

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You can't possibly support this raid.

The ramifications are deadly to any democracy .

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I dont. I didnt support the lock her up chants led by jail time Stone either or the constant fraudulent claims of a stolen election. I really think the R should pick itself up and become the party that stops wrestling in the mud and saves our country.

I dont hold much hope. Party shills will cry for retribution.

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Good grief.....certainly you can see the difference between the bleating of internet shrills and the ordering of a raid on an ex presidents HOME by his political enemies ?

This is the worst national event I can remember since the Challenger blew up .

Canada2017 said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Thank God R are better than this kind of circus. I have great cinfidence they will rise above petty paybacks and cheerleading sessions of lock them up chants and return the White houe and congress to respectful gov.

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You can't possibly support this raid.

The ramifications are deadly to any democracy .

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I dont. I didnt support the lock her up chants led by jail time Stone either or the constant fraudulent claims of a stolen election. I really think the R should pick itself up and become the party that stops wrestling in the mud and saves our country.

I dont hold much hope. Party shills will cry for retribution.

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Good grief.....certainly you can see the difference between the bleating of internet shrills and the ordering of a raid on an ex presidents HOME by his political enemies ?

This is the worst national event I can remember since the Challenger blew up .

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9/11
Katrina
The Pandemic
Great Recession
Innumerable mass shootings

Sam Lowry said:

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4th and Inches said:

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Remember the president has the ability to declassify materials before leaving the White House. So this is even more dicey for the FBI and DOJ than usual, requiring real specifics. This is a narrow path of appropriate surrounded by a very slippery slope banana republic..

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What makes you think a president can take away unclassified documents?

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what was in the safe?

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Canada2017 said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Thank God R are better than this kind of circus. I have great cinfidence they will rise above petty paybacks and cheerleading sessions of lock them up chants and return the White houe and congress to respectful gov.

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You can't possibly support this raid.

The ramifications are deadly to any democracy .

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I dont. I didnt support the lock her up chants led by jail time Stone either or the constant fraudulent claims of a stolen election. I really think the R should pick itself up and become the party that stops wrestling in the mud and saves our country.

I dont hold much hope. Party shills will cry for retribution.

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Good grief.....certainly you can see the difference between the bleating of internet shrills and the ordering of a raid on an ex presidents HOME by his political enemies ?

This is the worst national event I can remember since the Challenger blew up .

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9/11
Katrina
The Pandemic
Great Recession
Innumerable mass shootings

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Corrections accepted .......

9/11, Katrina, The Pandemic , Las Vegas shooting were all worse than the Challenger disaster.


However this use of the KGB to attack the home of a former president is the biggest political threat to our democracy since Watergate .

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Canada2017 said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Thank God R are better than this kind of circus. I have great cinfidence they will rise above petty paybacks and cheerleading sessions of lock them up chants and return the White houe and congress to respectful gov.

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You can't possibly support this raid.

The ramifications are deadly to any democracy .

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I dont. I didnt support the lock her up chants led by jail time Stone either or the constant fraudulent claims of a stolen election. I really think the R should pick itself up and become the party that stops wrestling in the mud and saves our country.

I dont hold much hope. Party shills will cry for retribution.

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Good grief.....certainly you can see the difference between the bleating of internet shrills and the ordering of a raid on an ex presidents HOME by his political enemies ?

This is the worst national event I can remember since the Challenger blew up .

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9/11
Katrina
The Pandemic
Great Recession
Innumerable mass shootings

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Corrections accepted .......

9/11, Katrina, The Pandemic , Las Vegas shooting were all worse than the Challenger disaster.


However this use of the KGB to attack the home of a former president is the biggest political threat to our democracy since Watergate .

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I'll reserve judgment until the facts are known.