FBI raids Trump's home

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TexasScientist said:

4th and Inches said:

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quash said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

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It's amazing how many diehards are willing to follow Trump a party down the sewer pipe. But, maybe not so amazing. People defended Nixon Stalin, Hitler, and Mao until they didn't, because they couldn't.
Some of us are more concerned with polity and democracy than unserious political memes and disinformation. But please tell us how returning Huckleberry Finn will save democracy.

You do realize what Nixon did was peanuts compared to what the Obama and Biden campaigns have done. The only difference is Nixon used former FBI guys while Obama and Biden used current ones.

Stealing from the public will not end democracy. Minimizing the crime doesn't make you an edgelord.

Double standards undermine democracy. I do not recall the Clintons being raided to recover stolen items from the White House or Obama being raided for refusing to return documents.
To be fair, part of that might have to do with the fact that they didn't steal anything.
Trump also did not steal anything. Either GSA stole them or they already belong to Trump and you can't steal stuff you already own..
Refusing to turn over classified documents in your possession = theft.
Documents with classified markings does not always equal classified documents.

Any comments on why the GSA workers who boxed and cataloged and sent all that stuff to his office in Florida have not been reprimanded fired or criminally punished in any way?
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Had democracy been saved by the return of To Kill a Mockingbird to the D.C. public library?
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Sam Lowry said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

quash said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

TexasScientist said:

It's amazing how many diehards are willing to follow Trump a party down the sewer pipe. But, maybe not so amazing. People defended Nixon Stalin, Hitler, and Mao until they didn't, because they couldn't.
Some of us are more concerned with polity and democracy than unserious political memes and disinformation. But please tell us how returning Huckleberry Finn will save democracy.

You do realize what Nixon did was peanuts compared to what the Obama and Biden campaigns have done. The only difference is Nixon used former FBI guys while Obama and Biden used current ones.

Stealing from the public will not end democracy. Minimizing the crime doesn't make you an edgelord.

Double standards undermine democracy. I do not recall the Clintons being raided to recover stolen items from the White House or Obama being raided for refusing to return documents.
To be fair, part of that might have to do with the fact that they didn't steal anything.
You have Bill's ability to forget: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2001-feb-10-mn-23723-story.html
Oldbear83
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TexasScientist said:

Oldbear83 said:

TS: "It's Trump's fault, even when it's Biden"

OK Brandon.
OB: "Trump - Former POTUS - relax son he's not under your bed"
Translated from TSEstrogen to English
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Sam Lowry
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Sam Lowry said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

quash said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

TexasScientist said:

It's amazing how many diehards are willing to follow Trump a party down the sewer pipe. But, maybe not so amazing. People defended Nixon Stalin, Hitler, and Mao until they didn't, because they couldn't.
Some of us are more concerned with polity and democracy than unserious political memes and disinformation. But please tell us how returning Huckleberry Finn will save democracy.

You do realize what Nixon did was peanuts compared to what the Obama and Biden campaigns have done. The only difference is Nixon used former FBI guys while Obama and Biden used current ones.

Stealing from the public will not end democracy. Minimizing the crime doesn't make you an edgelord.

Double standards undermine democracy. I do not recall the Clintons being raided to recover stolen items from the White House or Obama being raided for refusing to return documents.
To be fair, part of that might have to do with the fact that they didn't steal anything.
You have Bill's ability to forget: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2001-feb-10-mn-23723-story.html
You have Bill's ability not to tell the whole story: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-clintons-whitehouse/false-headline-claim-the-clintons-admit-to-stealing-from-the-white-house-idUSKBN20Q2EG
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Sam Lowry said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Sam Lowry said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

quash said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

TexasScientist said:

It's amazing how many diehards are willing to follow Trump a party down the sewer pipe. But, maybe not so amazing. People defended Nixon Stalin, Hitler, and Mao until they didn't, because they couldn't.
Some of us are more concerned with polity and democracy than unserious political memes and disinformation. But please tell us how returning Huckleberry Finn will save democracy.

You do realize what Nixon did was peanuts compared to what the Obama and Biden campaigns have done. The only difference is Nixon used former FBI guys while Obama and Biden used current ones.

Stealing from the public will not end democracy. Minimizing the crime doesn't make you an edgelord.

Double standards undermine democracy. I do not recall the Clintons being raided to recover stolen items from the White House or Obama being raided for refusing to return documents.
To be fair, part of that might have to do with the fact that they didn't steal anything.
You have Bill's ability to forget: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2001-feb-10-mn-23723-story.html
You have Bill's ability not to tell the whole story: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-clintons-whitehouse/false-headline-claim-the-clintons-admit-to-stealing-from-the-white-house-idUSKBN20Q2EG



The same Reuters that retracted a story about the UN report kids in cages when it realized it was under Obama's watch? Now I realize you debunked schtivk. No **** the Clintons would never admit a crime. That's weak sauce even for your mask studies.
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Sam Lowry said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Sam Lowry said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

quash said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

TexasScientist said:

It's amazing how many diehards are willing to follow Trump a party down the sewer pipe. But, maybe not so amazing. People defended Nixon Stalin, Hitler, and Mao until they didn't, because they couldn't.
Some of us are more concerned with polity and democracy than unserious political memes and disinformation. But please tell us how returning Huckleberry Finn will save democracy.

You do realize what Nixon did was peanuts compared to what the Obama and Biden campaigns have done. The only difference is Nixon used former FBI guys while Obama and Biden used current ones.

Stealing from the public will not end democracy. Minimizing the crime doesn't make you an edgelord.

Double standards undermine democracy. I do not recall the Clintons being raided to recover stolen items from the White House or Obama being raided for refusing to return documents.
To be fair, part of that might have to do with the fact that they didn't steal anything.
You have Bill's ability to forget: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2001-feb-10-mn-23723-story.html
You have Bill's ability not to tell the whole story: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-clintons-whitehouse/false-headline-claim-the-clintons-admit-to-stealing-from-the-white-house-idUSKBN20Q2EG



The same Reuters that retracted a story about the UN report kids in cages when it realized it was under Obama's watch? Now I realize you debunked schtivk. No **** the Clintons would never admit a crime. That's weak sauce even for your mask studies.
Read past the headline. Sorry I didn't make that clear.
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4th and Inches said:

TexasScientist said:

4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

quash said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

TexasScientist said:

It's amazing how many diehards are willing to follow Trump a party down the sewer pipe. But, maybe not so amazing. People defended Nixon Stalin, Hitler, and Mao until they didn't, because they couldn't.
Some of us are more concerned with polity and democracy than unserious political memes and disinformation. But please tell us how returning Huckleberry Finn will save democracy.

You do realize what Nixon did was peanuts compared to what the Obama and Biden campaigns have done. The only difference is Nixon used former FBI guys while Obama and Biden used current ones.

Stealing from the public will not end democracy. Minimizing the crime doesn't make you an edgelord.

Double standards undermine democracy. I do not recall the Clintons being raided to recover stolen items from the White House or Obama being raided for refusing to return documents.
To be fair, part of that might have to do with the fact that they didn't steal anything.
Trump also did not steal anything. Either GSA stole them or they already belong to Trump and you can't steal stuff you already own..
Refusing to turn over classified documents in your possession = theft.
Documents with classified markings does not always equal classified documents.

Any comments on why the GSA workers who boxed and cataloged and sent all that stuff to his office in Florida have not been reprimanded fired or criminally punished in any way?
Trump's lawyers have declined to produce evidence they were declassified and have not made the claim they are declassified.

Judge asks Trump's lawyers if he declassified records in FBI search
https://www.reuters.com/legal/new-york-judge-takes-up-review-documents-fbi-seized-trumps-home-2022-09-20/

"If the government gives me prima facie evidence (a legal term meaning a fact presumed to be true unless disproved) that this is classified, and you decide not to advance a claim of declassification ... as far as I'm concerned that's the end of it," Dearie told Trump's lawyers in his first public hearing on the matter.



Except it appears that Trump was in charge of packing the boxes.

Trump said the FBI found classified documents at his home because federal workers packed them. But emails Bloomberg got show boxes were already packed when movers arrived.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiMkaKd7qT8AhVhm2oFHRC-AcUQFnoECAoQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.businessinsider.com%2Ftrump-boxes-were-already-packed-when-government-movers-arrived-bloomberg-2022-10&usg=AOvVaw3AUzBxt3-QJXNk5ygbOOZQ
TexasScientist
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Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

TexasScientist said:

It's amazing how many diehards are willing to follow Trump a party down the sewer pipe. But, maybe not so amazing. People defended Nixon Stalin, Hitler, and Mao until they didn't, because they couldn't.
Some of us are more concerned with polity and democracy than unserious political memes and disinformation. But please tell us how returning Huckleberry Finn will save democracy.

You do realize what Nixon did was peanuts compared to what the Obama and Biden campaigns have done. The only difference is Nixon used former FBI guys while Obama and Biden used current ones.

Stealing from the public will not end democracy. Minimizing the crime doesn't make you an edgelord.

Using government agencies to attack/suppress anyone who supports/ed your opponent to gain political advantage, however, certainly makes you a Democrat.
Um, didn't Trump ask Bill Barr to arrest Biden about 3 weeks before the election?
TexasScientist
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Oldbear83 said:

TexasScientist said:

Oldbear83 said:

TS: "It's Trump's fault, even when it's Biden"

OK Brandon.
OB: "Trump - Former POTUS - relax son he's not under your bed"
Translated from TSEstrogen to English
Spoken like a cultist.
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Did we find the nuclear codes he was selling yet?
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Did we find the nuclear codes he was selling yet?
Heresy !


You shall be purged !
Oldbear83
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TexasScientist said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

TexasScientist said:

It's amazing how many diehards are willing to follow Trump a party down the sewer pipe. But, maybe not so amazing. People defended Nixon Stalin, Hitler, and Mao until they didn't, because they couldn't.
Some of us are more concerned with polity and democracy than unserious political memes and disinformation. But please tell us how returning Huckleberry Finn will save democracy.

You do realize what Nixon did was peanuts compared to what the Obama and Biden campaigns have done. The only difference is Nixon used former FBI guys while Obama and Biden used current ones.

Stealing from the public will not end democracy. Minimizing the crime doesn't make you an edgelord.

Using government agencies to attack/suppress anyone who supports/ed your opponent to gain political advantage, however, certainly makes you a Democrat.
Um, didn't Trump ask Bill Barr to arrest Biden about 3 weeks before the election?
I never heard that. What's your source?
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Oldbear83
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TexasScientist said:

Oldbear83 said:

TexasScientist said:

Oldbear83 said:

TS: "It's Trump's fault, even when it's Biden"

OK Brandon.
OB: "Trump - Former POTUS - relax son he's not under your bed"
Translated from TSEstrogen to English
Spoken like a cultist.
If you mean you post, possibly. Hard to understand why anyone who support Biden otherwise.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
TexasScientist
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Oldbear83 said:

TexasScientist said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

TexasScientist said:

It's amazing how many diehards are willing to follow Trump a party down the sewer pipe. But, maybe not so amazing. People defended Nixon Stalin, Hitler, and Mao until they didn't, because they couldn't.
Some of us are more concerned with polity and democracy than unserious political memes and disinformation. But please tell us how returning Huckleberry Finn will save democracy.

You do realize what Nixon did was peanuts compared to what the Obama and Biden campaigns have done. The only difference is Nixon used former FBI guys while Obama and Biden used current ones.

Stealing from the public will not end democracy. Minimizing the crime doesn't make you an edgelord.

Using government agencies to attack/suppress anyone who supports/ed your opponent to gain political advantage, however, certainly makes you a Democrat.
Um, didn't Trump ask Bill Barr to arrest Biden about 3 weeks before the election?
I never heard that. What's your source?
Where are all of the arrests?': Trump demands Barr lock up his foes
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/07/trump-demands-barr-arrest-foes-427389

Trump Calls on Barr to 'Act' Against Biden Before Election

The president is increasingly fixated on seeing criminal action against his political opponents.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/20/us/politics/trump-barr-biden.html

Trump ups pressure on Barr to probe Bidens as election nears
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-william-barr-elections-20fd56b64801dd83b1657c630a1ebdfa

Donald Trump Calls for AG Barr to Indict Joe Biden With 26 Days Until Election
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-calls-ag-barr-indict-joe-biden-26-days-until-election-1537518
TexasScientist
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Oldbear83 said:

TexasScientist said:

Oldbear83 said:

TexasScientist said:

Oldbear83 said:

TS: "It's Trump's fault, even when it's Biden"

OK Brandon.
OB: "Trump - Former POTUS - relax son he's not under your bed"
Translated from TSEstrogen to English
Spoken like a cultist.
If you mean you post, possibly. Hard to understand why anyone who support Biden otherwise.
Ha Ha. You know I've never been a Biden supporter. But, you on the otherhand display cultist fealty to Trump.
Oldbear83
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TexasScientist said:

Oldbear83 said:

TexasScientist said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

TexasScientist said:

It's amazing how many diehards are willing to follow Trump a party down the sewer pipe. But, maybe not so amazing. People defended Nixon Stalin, Hitler, and Mao until they didn't, because they couldn't.
Some of us are more concerned with polity and democracy than unserious political memes and disinformation. But please tell us how returning Huckleberry Finn will save democracy.

You do realize what Nixon did was peanuts compared to what the Obama and Biden campaigns have done. The only difference is Nixon used former FBI guys while Obama and Biden used current ones.

Stealing from the public will not end democracy. Minimizing the crime doesn't make you an edgelord.

Using government agencies to attack/suppress anyone who supports/ed your opponent to gain political advantage, however, certainly makes you a Democrat.
Um, didn't Trump ask Bill Barr to arrest Biden about 3 weeks before the election?
I never heard that. What's your source?
Where are all of the arrests?': Trump demands Barr lock up his foes
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/07/trump-demands-barr-arrest-foes-427389

Trump Calls on Barr to 'Act' Against Biden Before Election

The president is increasingly fixated on seeing criminal action against his political opponents.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/20/us/politics/trump-barr-biden.html

Trump ups pressure on Barr to probe Bidens as election nears
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-william-barr-elections-20fd56b64801dd83b1657c630a1ebdfa

Donald Trump Calls for AG Barr to Indict Joe Biden With 26 Days Until Election
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-calls-ag-barr-indict-joe-biden-26-days-until-election-1537518
Looking at the actual quotes, Trump may have hoped for Biden to be arrested, but his actual quotes don't go that far.

That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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TexasScientist said:

Oldbear83 said:

TexasScientist said:

Oldbear83 said:

TexasScientist said:

Oldbear83 said:

TS: "It's Trump's fault, even when it's Biden"

OK Brandon.
OB: "Trump - Former POTUS - relax son he's not under your bed"
Translated from TSEstrogen to English
Spoken like a cultist.
If you mean you post, possibly. Hard to understand why anyone who support Biden otherwise.
Ha Ha. You know I've never been a Biden supporter. But, you on the otherhand display cultist fealty to Trump.
Not at all.

I have said many times I consider him a blowhard and that he made mistakes. You seem to think that believing Trump has the same rights as Obama or Bush or Clinton before him makes someone a "cultist".

If never putting someone's bumper sticker on your truck, never donating even one penny to him/her, and never attending even a single rally does not affect being called a "cultist", then that is an absurdly low bar.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
TexasScientist
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Oldbear83 said:

TexasScientist said:

Oldbear83 said:

TexasScientist said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

TexasScientist said:

It's amazing how many diehards are willing to follow Trump a party down the sewer pipe. But, maybe not so amazing. People defended Nixon Stalin, Hitler, and Mao until they didn't, because they couldn't.
Some of us are more concerned with polity and democracy than unserious political memes and disinformation. But please tell us how returning Huckleberry Finn will save democracy.

You do realize what Nixon did was peanuts compared to what the Obama and Biden campaigns have done. The only difference is Nixon used former FBI guys while Obama and Biden used current ones.

Stealing from the public will not end democracy. Minimizing the crime doesn't make you an edgelord.

Using government agencies to attack/suppress anyone who supports/ed your opponent to gain political advantage, however, certainly makes you a Democrat.
Um, didn't Trump ask Bill Barr to arrest Biden about 3 weeks before the election?
I never heard that. What's your source?
Where are all of the arrests?': Trump demands Barr lock up his foes
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/07/trump-demands-barr-arrest-foes-427389

Trump Calls on Barr to 'Act' Against Biden Before Election

The president is increasingly fixated on seeing criminal action against his political opponents.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/20/us/politics/trump-barr-biden.html

Trump ups pressure on Barr to probe Bidens as election nears
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-william-barr-elections-20fd56b64801dd83b1657c630a1ebdfa

Donald Trump Calls for AG Barr to Indict Joe Biden With 26 Days Until Election
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-calls-ag-barr-indict-joe-biden-26-days-until-election-1537518
Looking at the actual quotes, Trump may have hoped for Biden to be arrested, but his actual quotes don't go that far.


Cultists just can't recognize reality when it's staring them in the face. You and Trump can parse his words however you want, but it's clear for what he was trying to find traction.
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Oldbear83 said:

TexasScientist said:

Oldbear83 said:

TexasScientist said:

Oldbear83 said:

TexasScientist said:

Oldbear83 said:

TS: "It's Trump's fault, even when it's Biden"

OK Brandon.
OB: "Trump - Former POTUS - relax son he's not under your bed"
Translated from TSEstrogen to English
Spoken like a cultist.
If you mean you post, possibly. Hard to understand why anyone who support Biden otherwise.
Ha Ha. You know I've never been a Biden supporter. But, you on the otherhand display cultist fealty to Trump.
Not at all.

I have said many times I consider him a blowhard and that he made mistakes. You seem to think that believing Trump has the same rights as Obama or Bush or Clinton before him makes someone a "cultist".

If never putting someone's bumper sticker on your truck, never donating even one penny to him/her, and never attending even a single rally does not affect being called a "cultist", then that is an absurdly low bar.
It's the unquestioning fealty, not the placement of bumper stickers.
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TexasScientist said:

Oldbear83 said:

TexasScientist said:

Oldbear83 said:

TexasScientist said:

Oldbear83 said:

TexasScientist said:

Oldbear83 said:

TS: "It's Trump's fault, even when it's Biden"

OK Brandon.
OB: "Trump - Former POTUS - relax son he's not under your bed"
Translated from TSEstrogen to English
Spoken like a cultist.
If you mean you post, possibly. Hard to understand why anyone who support Biden otherwise.
Ha Ha. You know I've never been a Biden supporter. But, you on the otherhand display cultist fealty to Trump.
Not at all.

I have said many times I consider him a blowhard and that he made mistakes. You seem to think that believing Trump has the same rights as Obama or Bush or Clinton before him makes someone a "cultist".

If never putting someone's bumper sticker on your truck, never donating even one penny to him/her, and never attending even a single rally does not affect being called a "cultist", then that is an absurdly low bar.
It's the unquestioning fealty, not the placement of bumper stickers.
Who says Oldbear didn't have a bumper sticker? You know how those cultists can lie.
TexasScientist
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Sam Lowry said:

TexasScientist said:

Oldbear83 said:

TexasScientist said:

Oldbear83 said:

TexasScientist said:

Oldbear83 said:

TexasScientist said:

Oldbear83 said:

TS: "It's Trump's fault, even when it's Biden"

OK Brandon.
OB: "Trump - Former POTUS - relax son he's not under your bed"
Translated from TSEstrogen to English
Spoken like a cultist.
If you mean you post, possibly. Hard to understand why anyone who support Biden otherwise.
Ha Ha. You know I've never been a Biden supporter. But, you on the otherhand display cultist fealty to Trump.
Not at all.

I have said many times I consider him a blowhard and that he made mistakes. You seem to think that believing Trump has the same rights as Obama or Bush or Clinton before him makes someone a "cultist".

If never putting someone's bumper sticker on your truck, never donating even one penny to him/her, and never attending even a single rally does not affect being called a "cultist", then that is an absurdly low bar.
It's the unquestioning fealty, not the placement of bumper stickers.
Who says Oldbear didn't have a bumper sticker? You know how those cultists can lie.
Ah, good point.
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Have we found the nuclear codes that the FBI told us Trump stole to sell to China?
Oldbear83
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And there it is. Don't demand Trump be strung up, you're a "cultist".

Sad, that. We may never see a cure for TDS.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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Have we found the nuclear codes that the FBI told us Trump stole to sell to China?

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Osodecentx
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Have we found the nuclear codes that the FBI told us Trump stole to sell to China?




You told us about library books. Is this different?
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Osodecentx said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Have we found the nuclear codes that the FBI told us Trump stole to sell to China?




You told us about library books. Is this different?
nope, ole Biden got some over due ones too looks like..
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4th and Inches said:

Osodecentx said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Have we found the nuclear codes that the FBI told us Trump stole to sell to China?



So we treat Biden like Trump?
You told us about library books. Is this different?
nope, ole Biden got some over due ones too looks like..
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Osodecentx said:

4th and Inches said:

Osodecentx said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Have we found the nuclear codes that the FBI told us Trump stole to sell to China?



So we treat Biden like Trump?
You told us about library books. Is this different?
nope, ole Biden got some over due ones too looks like..

sure- raid Bidens house!
Osodecentx
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4th and Inches said:

Osodecentx said:

4th and Inches said:

Osodecentx said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Have we found the nuclear codes that the FBI told us Trump stole to sell to China?




So we treat Biden like Trump?
You told us about library books. Is this different?
nope, ole Biden got some over due ones too looks like..

sure- raid Bidens house!


I'm in
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boognish_bear said:


Not surprised ... shocked CNN actually ran a story.

I guess this demands impeachment?
Osodecentx
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Harrison Bergeron said:

boognish_bear said:


Not surprised ... shocked CNN actually ran a story.

I guess this demands impeachment?


For library books?
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Osodecentx said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

boognish_bear said:


Not surprised ... shocked CNN actually ran a story.

I guess this demands impeachment?


For library books?
Trump was impeached for less. Maybe we can have a prime time tv show where Congressmen pretend it is a THREAT TO DEMOCRACY!
 
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