Sam Lowry said:

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The bureaucracy is accountable through the courts and administrative processes. Trump will try to change that, with this case being a prime example.

He has a conspiracy theory for just about every occasion, but I was referring to his fraudulent claims about the election in 2020.

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The judiciary had largely abdicated its role in policing the bureaucrats. Combine rulemaking (legislative), enforcement, and adjudicative function in many of these agencies, then slap Chevron deference over the top, and they could basically do whatever they wanted.

Well, yeah. That one in particular is his massive ego and toddler-like tendencies. But people have gotten so used to government and mass media lying to them that all conspiracy theories will get more traction these days.

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Even if you were right about the judiciary, giving Trump the kind of power he's seeking would only make it worse. It's the opposite of a solution. Likewise, the prevalence of conspiracy theories is no justification for an executive to exploit them.

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Sam Lowry said:

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Buchanan was the bridge, but we're in new territory now. What I think we'll find when Trump is through dismantling the bureaucracy is not less government power, but less accountability. All the power that's now dispersed throughout the various agencies will be centered in the president himself. The implications of this are obvious. In addition you have Trump's attacks on the courts, removing security details from political enemies, sowing paranoia and conspiracy theories, and encouraging violent mobs, all of which resemble fascist rather than conservative tactics. It remains to be seen whether Trump's populist rhetoric translates to any real benefit to American workers. His record is not especially pro-labor, and his tax policy seems to favor big corporations. I expect many services of government agencies will be privatized after those agencies are gutted, providing a wealth of opportunity for corrupt exploitation by Trump and his cronies.

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He definitely ran on a populist platform, and I never thought he'd shrink government / reform the administrative branch, especially after watching his first term, but here we are and he's trying like hell. I suppose, thanks to Elon, that those of us in favor of limited government are getting some surprise wins here.

There could not be less accountability. If anything, there would be more. We actually elect the President. No one knows the names of the countless bureaucrats buried in admin agencies. who apparently have had a vast amount of latitude to do as they like, so long as they don't get crosswise with the bureaucratic machine, then covered with the thick warm blanket of Chevron deference.

The executive fighting with the courts is as old as time, and the questions being raised now are fairly minimal compared to what they once were and have been at times.

Which conspiracy theories? Like the lab leak theory? The reason "conspiracy theories" get so much traction now is that people realize they've been lied to over and over and over again. This is the reckoning.

You, as a lover of authority, rules, and institutions don't understand this, but lots (a majority?) of people saw the Great Oz behind the curtain through the covid debacle, and they don't want him back in charge.

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The bureaucracy is accountable through the courts and administrative processes. Trump will try to change that, with this case being a prime example.

He has a conspiracy theory for just about every occasion, but I was referring to his truthful claims about the fraudulent election in 2020.

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Assassin said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Buchanan was the bridge, but we're in new territory now. What I think we'll find when Trump is through dismantling the bureaucracy is not less government power, but less accountability. All the power that's now dispersed throughout the various agencies will be centered in the president himself. The implications of this are obvious. In addition you have Trump's attacks on the courts, removing security details from political enemies, sowing paranoia and conspiracy theories, and encouraging violent mobs, all of which resemble fascist rather than conservative tactics. It remains to be seen whether Trump's populist rhetoric translates to any real benefit to American workers. His record is not especially pro-labor, and his tax policy seems to favor big corporations. I expect many services of government agencies will be privatized after those agencies are gutted, providing a wealth of opportunity for corrupt exploitation by Trump and his cronies.

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He definitely ran on a populist platform, and I never thought he'd shrink government / reform the administrative branch, especially after watching his first term, but here we are and he's trying like hell. I suppose, thanks to Elon, that those of us in favor of limited government are getting some surprise wins here.

There could not be less accountability. If anything, there would be more. We actually elect the President. No one knows the names of the countless bureaucrats buried in admin agencies. who apparently have had a vast amount of latitude to do as they like, so long as they don't get crosswise with the bureaucratic machine, then covered with the thick warm blanket of Chevron deference.

The executive fighting with the courts is as old as time, and the questions being raised now are fairly minimal compared to what they once were and have been at times.

Which conspiracy theories? Like the lab leak theory? The reason "conspiracy theories" get so much traction now is that people realize they've been lied to over and over and over again. This is the reckoning.

You, as a lover of authority, rules, and institutions don't understand this, but lots (a majority?) of people saw the Great Oz behind the curtain through the covid debacle, and they don't want him back in charge.

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The bureaucracy is accountable through the courts and administrative processes. Trump will try to change that, with this case being a prime example.

He has a conspiracy theory for just about every occasion, but I was referring to his truthful claims about the fraudulent election in 2020.

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Sam Lowry said:

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Assassin said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Buchanan was the bridge, but we're in new territory now. What I think we'll find when Trump is through dismantling the bureaucracy is not less government power, but less accountability. All the power that's now dispersed throughout the various agencies will be centered in the president himself. The implications of this are obvious. In addition you have Trump's attacks on the courts, removing security details from political enemies, sowing paranoia and conspiracy theories, and encouraging violent mobs, all of which resemble fascist rather than conservative tactics. It remains to be seen whether Trump's populist rhetoric translates to any real benefit to American workers. His record is not especially pro-labor, and his tax policy seems to favor big corporations. I expect many services of government agencies will be privatized after those agencies are gutted, providing a wealth of opportunity for corrupt exploitation by Trump and his cronies.

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He definitely ran on a populist platform, and I never thought he'd shrink government / reform the administrative branch, especially after watching his first term, but here we are and he's trying like hell. I suppose, thanks to Elon, that those of us in favor of limited government are getting some surprise wins here.

There could not be less accountability. If anything, there would be more. We actually elect the President. No one knows the names of the countless bureaucrats buried in admin agencies. who apparently have had a vast amount of latitude to do as they like, so long as they don't get crosswise with the bureaucratic machine, then covered with the thick warm blanket of Chevron deference.

The executive fighting with the courts is as old as time, and the questions being raised now are fairly minimal compared to what they once were and have been at times.

Which conspiracy theories? Like the lab leak theory? The reason "conspiracy theories" get so much traction now is that people realize they've been lied to over and over and over again. This is the reckoning.

You, as a lover of authority, rules, and institutions don't understand this, but lots (a majority?) of people saw the Great Oz behind the curtain through the covid debacle, and they don't want him back in charge.

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The bureaucracy is accountable through the courts and administrative processes. Trump will try to change that, with this case being a prime example.

He has a conspiracy theory for just about every occasion, but I was referring to his truthful claims about the fraudulent election in 2020.

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Show me one court of law that agreed.

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Just to clarify, are you indicating Democrats, which many of you claim are leftists are also fascists?

The reason I ask is based on the definition in a dictionary:

fascist
/fshst/

noun
An advocate or adherent of fascism.
A reactionary or dictatorial person.
An adherent of fascism or similar right-wing authoritarian views.

Just hoping you can clarify why you and some others are doing this.

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Jonah Goldberg wrote an excellent, if controversial, book about the Marxian and leftist origins of fascism. I highly recommend it.

Goldberg also assumed that American conservatives were immune to fascist tendencies because conservatives are not on the so-called "left" side of politics. He now understands that he was wrong. Historian has not yet figured this out.

https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/gfile/what-i-got-wrong-about-fascism/

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The American right has almost nothing to do with classical fascism.

Because of the American Revolution its probably one of the most "anti-centralist" and "anti-State" rightwing movements on Earth.

[Benito Mussolini, who was the first to use the term for his political party in 1915, described fascism in The Doctrine of Fascism, published in 1932, as follows:

The Fascist conception of the State is all-embracing; outside of it no human or spiritual values can exist, much less have value. Thus understood, Fascism is totalitarian, and the Fascist State a synthesis and a unit inclusive of all values interprets, develops, and potentiates the whole life of a people.
Fascism is a religious conception in which man is seen in his immanent relationship with a superior law and with an objective Will that transcends the particular individual and raises him to conscious membership of a spiritual society. Whoever has seen in the religious politics of the Fascist regime nothing but mere opportunism has not understood that Fascism besides being a system of government is also, and above all, a system of thought.]

[In a speech before the Chamber of Deputies on
26 May 1927, Mussolini said:
Everything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State. (Italian: Tutto nello Stato, niente al di fuori dello Stato, nulla contro lo Stato)]

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When fascism comes to America, it won't be wearing jackboots..

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American conservatism is practically anti-state….very regionalist (states rights)…..religious (Christian and Jewish)…and more reactionary than revolutionary

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I tend to agree. And if so then Trumpism is by no means conservative.

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"Trumpism" is just populist conservatism of the Pat Buchanan style.....but under a much more Hollywood style magnetic leader

Its far from the European fascism of the WWI war veterans....Italian or Nazi

[To put it plainly, Pat Buchanan was the living link between the nativist, isolationist, and protectionist paleoconservative tradition in GOP politics, which most observers thought had died in the 1950s, and the MAGA conservatism associated with Donald Trump. Both these strains of right-wing thought substituted nativism and economic nationalism for the free-market ideology that prevailed in the last half of the twentieth century]

Notice that one of the biggest Trump ideas is tearing down Federal power....through gutting Federal agencies....that is of course not what Fascism does....Fascism builds up agencies and centralized power

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Buchanan was the bridge, but we're in new territory now. What I think we'll find when Trump is through dismantling the bureaucracy is not less government power, but less accountability. All the power that's now dispersed throughout the various agencies will be centered in the president himself. The implications of this are obvious. In addition you have Trump's attacks on the courts, removing security details from political enemies, sowing paranoia and conspiracy theories, and encouraging violent mobs, all of which resemble fascist rather than conservative tactics. It remains to be seen whether Trump's populist rhetoric translates to any real benefit to American workers. His record is not especially pro-labor, and his tax policy seems to favor big corporations. I expect many services of government agencies will be privatized after those agencies are gutted, providing a wealth of opportunity for corrupt exploitation by Trump and his cronies.

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Yeah it's hard for anyone other than the resident zealots to see Trump fighting with the courts to expand the power of the executive branch, and diminish the ability of the courts to chrleck that power, or for the legislative branch to legislate these agencies Congress created, and see Trump as the guy who believes in limited government power.

He is vastly expanding upon the power granted to him by the Constitution, and in 4 years, the mere idea that a Democrat could exercise the same power will be anathema to so called conservatives.

Any adult wants checks on the President's power, because the President will not always be on your team. Conservative zealots are completely unable to defend this wholesale power grab. That's why they talk so much about TDS.

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What power grab? The statute drafted by Congress granted the power to the President some 200 years ago.

Trump didn't just create some new authority.


Maybe the law is unconstitutional as written and, as such, the president does not have the power to deport terrorists without proving to the judiciary that the terrorists are in fact terrorists. - but it certainly is not a power grab to follow the law as written.

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The judge is following the law as written.

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"If the places you govern are not advertisements for your governance, you are going to lose."

Watch #Abundance co-author @EzraKlein get real about why people are fleeing blue states on #RealTime: pic.twitter.com/JjDQt8O0zL

— Real Time with Bill Maher (@RealTimers) March 25, 2025

Assassin said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Assassin said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Buchanan was the bridge, but we're in new territory now. What I think we'll find when Trump is through dismantling the bureaucracy is not less government power, but less accountability. All the power that's now dispersed throughout the various agencies will be centered in the president himself. The implications of this are obvious. In addition you have Trump's attacks on the courts, removing security details from political enemies, sowing paranoia and conspiracy theories, and encouraging violent mobs, all of which resemble fascist rather than conservative tactics. It remains to be seen whether Trump's populist rhetoric translates to any real benefit to American workers. His record is not especially pro-labor, and his tax policy seems to favor big corporations. I expect many services of government agencies will be privatized after those agencies are gutted, providing a wealth of opportunity for corrupt exploitation by Trump and his cronies.

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He definitely ran on a populist platform, and I never thought he'd shrink government / reform the administrative branch, especially after watching his first term, but here we are and he's trying like hell. I suppose, thanks to Elon, that those of us in favor of limited government are getting some surprise wins here.

There could not be less accountability. If anything, there would be more. We actually elect the President. No one knows the names of the countless bureaucrats buried in admin agencies. who apparently have had a vast amount of latitude to do as they like, so long as they don't get crosswise with the bureaucratic machine, then covered with the thick warm blanket of Chevron deference.

The executive fighting with the courts is as old as time, and the questions being raised now are fairly minimal compared to what they once were and have been at times.

Which conspiracy theories? Like the lab leak theory? The reason "conspiracy theories" get so much traction now is that people realize they've been lied to over and over and over again. This is the reckoning.

You, as a lover of authority, rules, and institutions don't understand this, but lots (a majority?) of people saw the Great Oz behind the curtain through the covid debacle, and they don't want him back in charge.

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The bureaucracy is accountable through the courts and administrative processes. Trump will try to change that, with this case being a prime example.

He has a conspiracy theory for just about every occasion, but I was referring to his truthful claims about the fraudulent election in 2020.

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Show me one court of law that agreed.

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Why? You'll just poo poo that. However if you show me the extra 15 million people that magically appeared to "protest Donald Trump" in 2020, then magically disappeared when they were needed to beat Trump in 2024, I will agree with you

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Sam Lowry said:

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Assassin said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Assassin said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Buchanan was the bridge, but we're in new territory now. What I think we'll find when Trump is through dismantling the bureaucracy is not less government power, but less accountability. All the power that's now dispersed throughout the various agencies will be centered in the president himself. The implications of this are obvious. In addition you have Trump's attacks on the courts, removing security details from political enemies, sowing paranoia and conspiracy theories, and encouraging violent mobs, all of which resemble fascist rather than conservative tactics. It remains to be seen whether Trump's populist rhetoric translates to any real benefit to American workers. His record is not especially pro-labor, and his tax policy seems to favor big corporations. I expect many services of government agencies will be privatized after those agencies are gutted, providing a wealth of opportunity for corrupt exploitation by Trump and his cronies.

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He definitely ran on a populist platform, and I never thought he'd shrink government / reform the administrative branch, especially after watching his first term, but here we are and he's trying like hell. I suppose, thanks to Elon, that those of us in favor of limited government are getting some surprise wins here.

There could not be less accountability. If anything, there would be more. We actually elect the President. No one knows the names of the countless bureaucrats buried in admin agencies. who apparently have had a vast amount of latitude to do as they like, so long as they don't get crosswise with the bureaucratic machine, then covered with the thick warm blanket of Chevron deference.

The executive fighting with the courts is as old as time, and the questions being raised now are fairly minimal compared to what they once were and have been at times.

Which conspiracy theories? Like the lab leak theory? The reason "conspiracy theories" get so much traction now is that people realize they've been lied to over and over and over again. This is the reckoning.

You, as a lover of authority, rules, and institutions don't understand this, but lots (a majority?) of people saw the Great Oz behind the curtain through the covid debacle, and they don't want him back in charge.

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The bureaucracy is accountable through the courts and administrative processes. Trump will try to change that, with this case being a prime example.

He has a conspiracy theory for just about every occasion, but I was referring to his truthful claims about the fraudulent election in 2020.

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FIFY

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Show me one court of law that agreed.

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Why? You'll just poo poo that. However if you show me the extra 15 million people that magically appeared to "protest Donald Trump" in 2020, then magically disappeared when they were needed to beat Trump in 2024, I will agree with you

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https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-check-trumps-2024-win-doesnt-prove-claims-that-the-2020-election-was-stolen

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Sam Lowry said:

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Assassin said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Assassin said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Buchanan was the bridge, but we're in new territory now. What I think we'll find when Trump is through dismantling the bureaucracy is not less government power, but less accountability. All the power that's now dispersed throughout the various agencies will be centered in the president himself. The implications of this are obvious. In addition you have Trump's attacks on the courts, removing security details from political enemies, sowing paranoia and conspiracy theories, and encouraging violent mobs, all of which resemble fascist rather than conservative tactics. It remains to be seen whether Trump's populist rhetoric translates to any real benefit to American workers. His record is not especially pro-labor, and his tax policy seems to favor big corporations. I expect many services of government agencies will be privatized after those agencies are gutted, providing a wealth of opportunity for corrupt exploitation by Trump and his cronies.

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He definitely ran on a populist platform, and I never thought he'd shrink government / reform the administrative branch, especially after watching his first term, but here we are and he's trying like hell. I suppose, thanks to Elon, that those of us in favor of limited government are getting some surprise wins here.

There could not be less accountability. If anything, there would be more. We actually elect the President. No one knows the names of the countless bureaucrats buried in admin agencies. who apparently have had a vast amount of latitude to do as they like, so long as they don't get crosswise with the bureaucratic machine, then covered with the thick warm blanket of Chevron deference.

The executive fighting with the courts is as old as time, and the questions being raised now are fairly minimal compared to what they once were and have been at times.

Which conspiracy theories? Like the lab leak theory? The reason "conspiracy theories" get so much traction now is that people realize they've been lied to over and over and over again. This is the reckoning.

You, as a lover of authority, rules, and institutions don't understand this, but lots (a majority?) of people saw the Great Oz behind the curtain through the covid debacle, and they don't want him back in charge.

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The bureaucracy is accountable through the courts and administrative processes. Trump will try to change that, with this case being a prime example.

He has a conspiracy theory for just about every occasion, but I was referring to his truthful claims about the fraudulent election in 2020.

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Show me one court of law that agreed.

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Why? You'll just poo poo that. However if you show me the extra 15 million people that magically appeared to "protest Donald Trump" in 2020, then magically disappeared when they were needed to beat Trump in 2024, I will agree with you

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https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-check-trumps-2024-win-doesnt-prove-claims-that-the-2020-election-was-stolen

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Dude, it's PBS and Polifact, both 'owned' by Soros. You can do better. I know you can

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Sam Lowry said:

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Assassin said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Assassin said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Buchanan was the bridge, but we're in new territory now. What I think we'll find when Trump is through dismantling the bureaucracy is not less government power, but less accountability. All the power that's now dispersed throughout the various agencies will be centered in the president himself. The implications of this are obvious. In addition you have Trump's attacks on the courts, removing security details from political enemies, sowing paranoia and conspiracy theories, and encouraging violent mobs, all of which resemble fascist rather than conservative tactics. It remains to be seen whether Trump's populist rhetoric translates to any real benefit to American workers. His record is not especially pro-labor, and his tax policy seems to favor big corporations. I expect many services of government agencies will be privatized after those agencies are gutted, providing a wealth of opportunity for corrupt exploitation by Trump and his cronies.

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He definitely ran on a populist platform, and I never thought he'd shrink government / reform the administrative branch, especially after watching his first term, but here we are and he's trying like hell. I suppose, thanks to Elon, that those of us in favor of limited government are getting some surprise wins here.

There could not be less accountability. If anything, there would be more. We actually elect the President. No one knows the names of the countless bureaucrats buried in admin agencies. who apparently have had a vast amount of latitude to do as they like, so long as they don't get crosswise with the bureaucratic machine, then covered with the thick warm blanket of Chevron deference.

The executive fighting with the courts is as old as time, and the questions being raised now are fairly minimal compared to what they once were and have been at times.

Which conspiracy theories? Like the lab leak theory? The reason "conspiracy theories" get so much traction now is that people realize they've been lied to over and over and over again. This is the reckoning.

You, as a lover of authority, rules, and institutions don't understand this, but lots (a majority?) of people saw the Great Oz behind the curtain through the covid debacle, and they don't want him back in charge.

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The bureaucracy is accountable through the courts and administrative processes. Trump will try to change that, with this case being a prime example.

He has a conspiracy theory for just about every occasion, but I was referring to his truthful claims about the fraudulent election in 2020.

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Show me one court of law that agreed.

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Why? You'll just poo poo that. However if you show me the extra 15 million people that magically appeared to "protest Donald Trump" in 2020, then magically disappeared when they were needed to beat Trump in 2024, I will agree with you

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https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-check-trumps-2024-win-doesnt-prove-claims-that-the-2020-election-was-stolen

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Dude, it's PBS and Polifact, both 'owned' by Soros. You can do better. I know you can

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I have posted about this in more detail, but I don't want to get too side-tracked, especially if you're not engaging with the material. "But but PBS" is not a serious response.

The bottom line is that dozens of conservative and liberal judges have considered Trump's claims and found them baseless.

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If Trump gets his voter ID law passed, I imagine the leftwing voter count will drop to 20-30 mil or so.

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'no one can explain how TWENTY MILLION VOTERS suddenly appeared, then just as suddenly DISAPPEARED"

They were visitors from Alderaan who went back home in between elections, but Vader happened in between then and now.

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Sam Lowry said:

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Assassin said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Assassin said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Assassin said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Buchanan was the bridge, but we're in new territory now. What I think we'll find when Trump is through dismantling the bureaucracy is not less government power, but less accountability. All the power that's now dispersed throughout the various agencies will be centered in the president himself. The implications of this are obvious. In addition you have Trump's attacks on the courts, removing security details from political enemies, sowing paranoia and conspiracy theories, and encouraging violent mobs, all of which resemble fascist rather than conservative tactics. It remains to be seen whether Trump's populist rhetoric translates to any real benefit to American workers. His record is not especially pro-labor, and his tax policy seems to favor big corporations. I expect many services of government agencies will be privatized after those agencies are gutted, providing a wealth of opportunity for corrupt exploitation by Trump and his cronies.

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He definitely ran on a populist platform, and I never thought he'd shrink government / reform the administrative branch, especially after watching his first term, but here we are and he's trying like hell. I suppose, thanks to Elon, that those of us in favor of limited government are getting some surprise wins here.

There could not be less accountability. If anything, there would be more. We actually elect the President. No one knows the names of the countless bureaucrats buried in admin agencies. who apparently have had a vast amount of latitude to do as they like, so long as they don't get crosswise with the bureaucratic machine, then covered with the thick warm blanket of Chevron deference.

The executive fighting with the courts is as old as time, and the questions being raised now are fairly minimal compared to what they once were and have been at times.

Which conspiracy theories? Like the lab leak theory? The reason "conspiracy theories" get so much traction now is that people realize they've been lied to over and over and over again. This is the reckoning.

You, as a lover of authority, rules, and institutions don't understand this, but lots (a majority?) of people saw the Great Oz behind the curtain through the covid debacle, and they don't want him back in charge.

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The bureaucracy is accountable through the courts and administrative processes. Trump will try to change that, with this case being a prime example.

He has a conspiracy theory for just about every occasion, but I was referring to his truthful claims about the fraudulent election in 2020.

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FIFY

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Show me one court of law that agreed.

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Why? You'll just poo poo that. However if you show me the extra 15 million people that magically appeared to "protest Donald Trump" in 2020, then magically disappeared when they were needed to beat Trump in 2024, I will agree with you

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https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-check-trumps-2024-win-doesnt-prove-claims-that-the-2020-election-was-stolen

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Dude, it's PBS and Polifact, both 'owned' by Soros. You can do better. I know you can

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I have posted about this in more detail, but I don't want to get too side-tracked, especially if you're not engaging with the material. "But but PBS" is not a serious response.

The bottom line is that dozens of conservative and liberal judges have considered Trump's claims and found them baseless.

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PBS is a far left wing joke.

And no one can explain how TWENTY MILLION VOTERS suddenly appeared, then just as suddenly DISAPPEARED

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Sam Lowry said:

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Assassin said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Assassin said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Assassin said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Assassin said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Buchanan was the bridge, but we're in new territory now. What I think we'll find when Trump is through dismantling the bureaucracy is not less government power, but less accountability. All the power that's now dispersed throughout the various agencies will be centered in the president himself. The implications of this are obvious. In addition you have Trump's attacks on the courts, removing security details from political enemies, sowing paranoia and conspiracy theories, and encouraging violent mobs, all of which resemble fascist rather than conservative tactics. It remains to be seen whether Trump's populist rhetoric translates to any real benefit to American workers. His record is not especially pro-labor, and his tax policy seems to favor big corporations. I expect many services of government agencies will be privatized after those agencies are gutted, providing a wealth of opportunity for corrupt exploitation by Trump and his cronies.

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He definitely ran on a populist platform, and I never thought he'd shrink government / reform the administrative branch, especially after watching his first term, but here we are and he's trying like hell. I suppose, thanks to Elon, that those of us in favor of limited government are getting some surprise wins here.

There could not be less accountability. If anything, there would be more. We actually elect the President. No one knows the names of the countless bureaucrats buried in admin agencies. who apparently have had a vast amount of latitude to do as they like, so long as they don't get crosswise with the bureaucratic machine, then covered with the thick warm blanket of Chevron deference.

The executive fighting with the courts is as old as time, and the questions being raised now are fairly minimal compared to what they once were and have been at times.

Which conspiracy theories? Like the lab leak theory? The reason "conspiracy theories" get so much traction now is that people realize they've been lied to over and over and over again. This is the reckoning.

You, as a lover of authority, rules, and institutions don't understand this, but lots (a majority?) of people saw the Great Oz behind the curtain through the covid debacle, and they don't want him back in charge.

---

The bureaucracy is accountable through the courts and administrative processes. Trump will try to change that, with this case being a prime example.

He has a conspiracy theory for just about every occasion, but I was referring to his truthful claims about the fraudulent election in 2020.

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FIFY

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Show me one court of law that agreed.

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Why? You'll just poo poo that. However if you show me the extra 15 million people that magically appeared to "protest Donald Trump" in 2020, then magically disappeared when they were needed to beat Trump in 2024, I will agree with you

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https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-check-trumps-2024-win-doesnt-prove-claims-that-the-2020-election-was-stolen

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Dude, it's PBS and Polifact, both 'owned' by Soros. You can do better. I know you can

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I have posted about this in more detail, but I don't want to get too side-tracked, especially if you're not engaging with the material. "But but PBS" is not a serious response.

The bottom line is that dozens of conservative and liberal judges have considered Trump's claims and found them baseless.

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PBS is a far left wing joke.

And no one can explain how TWENTY MILLION VOTERS suddenly appeared, then just as suddenly DISAPPEARED

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They didn't. The turnout rate jumped six points in 2020 and fell two points in 2024.

Nothing magical about it.

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Buchanan was the bridge, but we're in new territory now. What I think we'll find when Trump is through dismantling the bureaucracy is not less government power, but less accountability. All the power that's now dispersed throughout the various agencies will be centered in the president himself. The implications of this are obvious. In addition you have Trump's attacks on the courts, removing security details from political enemies, sowing paranoia and conspiracy theories, and encouraging violent mobs, all of which resemble fascist rather than conservative tactics. It remains to be seen whether Trump's populist rhetoric translates to any real benefit to American workers. His record is not especially pro-labor, and his tax policy seems to favor big corporations. I expect many services of government agencies will be privatized after those agencies are gutted, providing a wealth of opportunity for corrupt exploitation by Trump and his cronies.

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He definitely ran on a populist platform, and I never thought he'd shrink government / reform the administrative branch, especially after watching his first term, but here we are and he's trying like hell. I suppose, thanks to Elon, that those of us in favor of limited government are getting some surprise wins here.

There could not be less accountability. If anything, there would be more. We actually elect the President. No one knows the names of the countless bureaucrats buried in admin agencies. who apparently have had a vast amount of latitude to do as they like, so long as they don't get crosswise with the bureaucratic machine, then covered with the thick warm blanket of Chevron deference.

The executive fighting with the courts is as old as time, and the questions being raised now are fairly minimal compared to what they once were and have been at times.

Which conspiracy theories? Like the lab leak theory? The reason "conspiracy theories" get so much traction now is that people realize they've been lied to over and over and over again. This is the reckoning.

You, as a lover of authority, rules, and institutions don't understand this, but lots (a majority?) of people saw the Great Oz behind the curtain through the covid debacle, and they don't want him back in charge.

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The bureaucracy is accountable through the courts and administrative processes. Trump will try to change that, with this case being a prime example.

He has a conspiracy theory for just about every occasion, but I was referring to his truthful claims about the fraudulent election in 2020.

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Show me one court of law that agreed.

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Why? You'll just poo poo that. However if you show me the extra 15 million people that magically appeared to "protest Donald Trump" in 2020, then magically disappeared when they were needed to beat Trump in 2024, I will agree with you

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https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-check-trumps-2024-win-doesnt-prove-claims-that-the-2020-election-was-stolen

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Dude, it's PBS and Polifact, both 'owned' by Soros. You can do better. I know you can

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I have posted about this in more detail, but I don't want to get too side-tracked, especially if you're not engaging with the material. "But but PBS" is not a serious response.

The bottom line is that dozens of conservative and liberal judges have considered Trump's claims and found them baseless.

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PBS is a far left wing joke.

And no one can explain how TWENTY MILLION VOTERS suddenly appeared, then just as suddenly DISAPPEARED

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They didn't. The turnout rate jumped six points in 2020 and fell two points in 2024.

Nothing magical about it.

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So you are using MAGICAL POINTS instead of actually counting people? How David Blayne of you

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Sam will never even consider the notion that the 2020 Biden "victory" was anything but pure, wonderful and clean.

He also prefers Snow White 2025 to the original.

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Sam will never even consider the notion that the 2020 Biden "victory" was anything but pure, wonderful and clean.

He also prefers Snow White 2025 to the original.

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Interestingly enough, many courts of law have considered this issue. And before you respond, I do mean precisely this issue.

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Buchanan was the bridge, but we're in new territory now. What I think we'll find when Trump is through dismantling the bureaucracy is not less government power, but less accountability. All the power that's now dispersed throughout the various agencies will be centered in the president himself. The implications of this are obvious. In addition you have Trump's attacks on the courts, removing security details from political enemies, sowing paranoia and conspiracy theories, and encouraging violent mobs, all of which resemble fascist rather than conservative tactics. It remains to be seen whether Trump's populist rhetoric translates to any real benefit to American workers. His record is not especially pro-labor, and his tax policy seems to favor big corporations. I expect many services of government agencies will be privatized after those agencies are gutted, providing a wealth of opportunity for corrupt exploitation by Trump and his cronies.

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He definitely ran on a populist platform, and I never thought he'd shrink government / reform the administrative branch, especially after watching his first term, but here we are and he's trying like hell. I suppose, thanks to Elon, that those of us in favor of limited government are getting some surprise wins here.

There could not be less accountability. If anything, there would be more. We actually elect the President. No one knows the names of the countless bureaucrats buried in admin agencies. who apparently have had a vast amount of latitude to do as they like, so long as they don't get crosswise with the bureaucratic machine, then covered with the thick warm blanket of Chevron deference.

The executive fighting with the courts is as old as time, and the questions being raised now are fairly minimal compared to what they once were and have been at times.

Which conspiracy theories? Like the lab leak theory? The reason "conspiracy theories" get so much traction now is that people realize they've been lied to over and over and over again. This is the reckoning.

You, as a lover of authority, rules, and institutions don't understand this, but lots (a majority?) of people saw the Great Oz behind the curtain through the covid debacle, and they don't want him back in charge.

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The bureaucracy is accountable through the courts and administrative processes. Trump will try to change that, with this case being a prime example.

He has a conspiracy theory for just about every occasion, but I was referring to his truthful claims about the fraudulent election in 2020.

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Show me one court of law that agreed.

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Why? You'll just poo poo that. However if you show me the extra 15 million people that magically appeared to "protest Donald Trump" in 2020, then magically disappeared when they were needed to beat Trump in 2024, I will agree with you

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https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-check-trumps-2024-win-doesnt-prove-claims-that-the-2020-election-was-stolen

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Dude, it's PBS and Polifact, both 'owned' by Soros. You can do better. I know you can

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I have posted about this in more detail, but I don't want to get too side-tracked, especially if you're not engaging with the material. "But but PBS" is not a serious response.

The bottom line is that dozens of conservative and liberal judges have considered Trump's claims and found them baseless.

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PBS is a far left wing joke.

And no one can explain how TWENTY MILLION VOTERS suddenly appeared, then just as suddenly DISAPPEARED

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They didn't. The turnout rate jumped six points in 2020 and fell two points in 2024.

Nothing magical about it.

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So you are using MAGICAL POINTS instead of actually counting people? How David Blayne of you

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It's been analyzed and explained ad nauseam using any and every metric you could want.

I'd still like to hear about that court case, though.

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Here's the problem, very basically stated. Nobody had standing to challenge the fly in. Some people arguably had standing to challenge the fly out. That is an imbalance of power and policy that cannot continue. If it does, our structure will crack. So one way or another, the judiciary, and the executive will have to sort out that imbalance.

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Judge James Boasberg was just assigned to the case involving the Signal chat. The same judge who tried stopping Trump from deporting terrorists. pic.twitter.com/ZAOsCnFX4X

— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) March 26, 2025

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Judge James Boasberg was just assigned to the case involving the Signal chat. The same judge who tried stopping Trump from deporting terrorists. pic.twitter.com/ZAOsCnFX4X

— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) March 26, 2025

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Maybe whatever fake case the fascists could invent? We all know their #1 goal above everything else is to impeach Trump. They are very transparent and pathetic because they have zero chance of succeeding.

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Just to clarify, are you indicating Democrats, which many of you claim are leftists are also fascists?

The reason I ask is based on the definition in a dictionary:

fascist
/fshst/

noun
An advocate or adherent of fascism.
A reactionary or dictatorial person.
An adherent of fascism or similar right-wing authoritarian views.

Just hoping you can clarify why you and some others are doing this.

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Jonah Goldberg wrote an excellent, if controversial, book about the Marxian and leftist origins of fascism. I highly recommend it.

Goldberg also assumed that American conservatives were immune to fascist tendencies because conservatives are not on the so-called "left" side of politics. He now understands that he was wrong. Historian has not yet figured this out.

https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/gfile/what-i-got-wrong-about-fascism/

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The American right has almost nothing to do with classical fascism.

Because of the American Revolution its probably one of the most "anti-centralist" and "anti-State" rightwing movements on Earth.

[Benito Mussolini, who was the first to use the term for his political party in 1915, described fascism in The Doctrine of Fascism, published in 1932, as follows:

The Fascist conception of the State is all-embracing; outside of it no human or spiritual values can exist, much less have value. Thus understood, Fascism is totalitarian, and the Fascist State a synthesis and a unit inclusive of all values interprets, develops, and potentiates the whole life of a people.
Fascism is a religious conception in which man is seen in his immanent relationship with a superior law and with an objective Will that transcends the particular individual and raises him to conscious membership of a spiritual society. Whoever has seen in the religious politics of the Fascist regime nothing but mere opportunism has not understood that Fascism besides being a system of government is also, and above all, a system of thought.]

[In a speech before the Chamber of Deputies on
26 May 1927, Mussolini said:
Everything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State. (Italian: Tutto nello Stato, niente al di fuori dello Stato, nulla contro lo Stato)]

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When fascism comes to America, it won't be wearing jackboots..

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American conservatism is practically anti-state….very regionalist (states rights)…..religious (Christian and Jewish)…and more reactionary than revolutionary

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I tend to agree. And if so then Trumpism is by no means conservative.

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"Trumpism" is just populist conservatism of the Pat Buchanan style.....but under a much more Hollywood style magnetic leader

Its far from the European fascism of the WWI war veterans....Italian or Nazi

[To put it plainly, Pat Buchanan was the living link between the nativist, isolationist, and protectionist paleoconservative tradition in GOP politics, which most observers thought had died in the 1950s, and the MAGA conservatism associated with Donald Trump. Both these strains of right-wing thought substituted nativism and economic nationalism for the free-market ideology that prevailed in the last half of the twentieth century]

Notice that one of the biggest Trump ideas is tearing down Federal power....through gutting Federal agencies....that is of course not what Fascism does....Fascism builds up agencies and centralized power

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Buchanan was the bridge, but we're in new territory now. What I think we'll find when Trump is through dismantling the bureaucracy is not less government power, but less accountability. All the power that's now dispersed throughout the various agencies will be centered in the president himself. The implications of this are obvious. In addition you have Trump's attacks on the courts, removing security details from political enemies, sowing paranoia and conspiracy theories, and encouraging violent mobs, all of which resemble fascist rather than conservative tactics. It remains to be seen whether Trump's populist rhetoric translates to any real benefit to American workers. His record is not especially pro-labor, and his tax policy seems to favor big corporations. I expect many services of government agencies will be privatized after those agencies are gutted, providing a wealth of opportunity for corrupt exploitation by Trump and his cronies.

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Yeah it's hard for anyone other than the resident zealots to see Trump fighting with the courts to expand the power of the executive branch, and diminish the ability of the courts to chrleck that power, or for the legislative branch to legislate these agencies Congress created, and see Trump as the guy who believes in limited government power.

He is vastly expanding upon the power granted to him by the Constitution, and in 4 years, the mere idea that a Democrat could exercise the same power will be anathema to so called conservatives.

Any adult wants checks on the President's power, because the President will not always be on your team. Conservative zealots are completely unable to defend this wholesale power grab. That's why they talk so much about TDS.

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What power grab? The statute drafted by Congress granted the power to the President some 200 years ago.

Trump didn't just create some new authority.


Maybe the law is unconstitutional as written and, as such, the president does not have the power to deport terrorists without proving to the judiciary that the terrorists are in fact terrorists. - but it certainly is not a power grab to follow the law as written.

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The judge is following the law as written.

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Maybe. It's just as likely, maybe more so, that it will backfire and help the GOP gain strong majorities in both houses in 2026.

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Judge James Boasberg was just assigned to the case involving the Signal chat. The same judge who tried stopping Trump from deporting terrorists. pic.twitter.com/ZAOsCnFX4X

— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) March 26, 2025

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And again.

On top of everything else corrupt about him, Boasberg is a liar.

After trying to move the goalposts--he now is accusing the DOJ of misleading him and building a contempt case against Trump adm.

Impeach. pic.twitter.com/oUxzcbVThN

— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) March 26, 2025