Federal Judge blocks Trump from deporting illegal alien gang members

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In Nov 2024, the State of Texas spent $121 million dollars for medical care for illegals. (just now on TV)
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Sure, Pedro.
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The cities where the voter rolls are never cleaned have a large amount of cheating. Why is it always the blue cities that fight cleaning up their voter rolls? Could it be that when all the ballots are sent to voters and are then mailed in, many illegals and folks voting in more than one state get their votes through even though they are ineligible to vote? There is a great deal of cheating going on and most voters know it.
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gtownbear said:

The cities where the voter rolls are never cleaned have a large amount of cheating. Why is it always the blue cities that fight cleaning up their voter rolls? Could it be that when all the ballots are sent to voters and are then mailed in, many illegals and folks voting in more than one state get their votes through even though they are ineligible to vote? There is a great deal of cheating going on and most voters know it.
Everyone know it including the Democrats. As long as they pay the Main Stream Media to voice what they tell them, it will remain that way.

If it weren't for social media, no one would know the truth. And the USA would have Kamala Harris as POTUS and we would be going into bankruptcy as a country. Other globalist countries on the take, would pick the parts they wanted for themselves
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Assassin said:

gtownbear said:

The cities where the voter rolls are never cleaned have a large amount of cheating. Why is it always the blue cities that fight cleaning up their voter rolls? Could it be that when all the ballots are sent to voters and are then mailed in, many illegals and folks voting in more than one state get their votes through even though they are ineligible to vote? There is a great deal of cheating going on and most voters know it.
Everyone know it including the Democrats. As long as they pay the Main Stream Media to voice what they tell them, it will remain that way.

If it weren't for social media, no one would know the truth. And the USA would have Kamala Harris as POTUS and we would be going into bankruptcy as a country. Other globalist countries on the take, would pick the parts they wanted for themselves


All true

Well done
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Assassin said:

In Nov 2024, the State of Texas spent $121 million dollars for medical care for illegals. (just now on TV)


Oh I bet that is a severe undercount
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gtownbear
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Looks like the left sure picked an upstanding illegal to support. The sand is almost out of the hour glass on that hill they wish to die on.
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Sam Lowry said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

You are looking at politics and I'm looking at economics. The Austrian School is a branch of economics, essentially capitalism iodates for modern conditions. Those other issues are irrelevant to the discussion.
What I'm saying is, strictly in terms of economics, foreign workers migrating across the border is a good thing from the Austrian point of view. It's nothing but supply and demand in action. The immigration restrictions that you favor are an example of the government messing things up.

Only if they come legally. You obviously have no idea what kind of immigration restrictions I favor do you should not jump to conclusions. You look foolish going so.
That doesn't change the economic analysis. Whether legally or not, they are meeting a demand.
They are seriously only meeting the demand by the party elites for more Democrat party voters over the last four years.
Again, if you have to import voters illegally to stay in power, you are not legit.
Noncitizen voting is vanishingly rare, despite what Trump would have you believe.

Not really. Instead more and more reports are coming out of illegal voting in 2024. It's quite possible that Trump's landslide victory was bigger than anyone realizes once one filters out all the fraudulent votes for Kamala, many by illegals with no right to vote in the US.
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You can't post this. It doesn't fit the narrative.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/wisconsin-high-court-suspends-milwaukee-judge-accused-of-helping-man-evade-immigration-authorities/ar-AA1DS9k1?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=e098c0c4dc2240dd8b543b2c28c273c0&ei=15
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Assassin said:

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That is not true. Why do you believe all these insane claims before doing any homework?
Strange how you always say EXACTLY the same thing and get proven wrong over and over.

Oh I do? So you already know how ludicrous this claim is?
Go for it. Show me your homework

Honestly you are a zealot and will not change your mind. But the vast majority of these people got Socials so they could work legally. It is a normal process. They did not have benefits turned on. Obviously I don't know about all of them, but also obviously we would know had 3 million illegals been receiving benefits like that.

When they were getting unemployment and handouts, it was through the state, not the feds.
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gtownbear said:

No with you it is always one more hearing, one more necessary piece to the due process circumstance for millions who came in illegally, and today finding out 700,000 with criminal records, many under deportation orders. The law requires that these illegals claiming asylum are required by law to be held in custody until their asylum hearings which must be held within 30 days of entry. Since Biden released them into cities, towns and communities, they were required to register with the government within 30 days, and to inform the immigration folks within 10 days of an address change or it was a criminal act.

My point is a regular American citizen does not get four or five due process chances when he or she is charged with breaking the law. No the judicial system tries us and if convicted sentences us. But these illegals have broken all of our immigration laws and then when an administration enforces the laws, they and you claim fowl and say how unfair everything is. Nonsense. They could have come in the correct way but chose to cut in line instead and now they are paying the consequences. Some of these individuals have been deported and have returned three or four times. Time to say enough is enough.

There are grounds to deport most of these millions. And in order to preserve our country that is what needs to take place.

No, just the hearings mandated by law and now the Supreme Court. You know, rule of law? Once due process is satisfied, deport them!

You've got me confused with another poster. I'm calling out your hypocrisy. I'm also very pro legal immigration. And against illegal immigration, though when the federal government encourages it, it's a little more understandable that people pour in.
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gtownbear said:

Looks like the left sure picked an upstanding illegal to support. The sand is almost out of the hour glass on that hill they wish to die on.
The left didn't pick him. If you were a president making a play for dictatorial power, who would you want for your test case -- Clair Huxtable or some guy with face tattoos?
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historian said:

Sam Lowry said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

You are looking at politics and I'm looking at economics. The Austrian School is a branch of economics, essentially capitalism iodates for modern conditions. Those other issues are irrelevant to the discussion.
What I'm saying is, strictly in terms of economics, foreign workers migrating across the border is a good thing from the Austrian point of view. It's nothing but supply and demand in action. The immigration restrictions that you favor are an example of the government messing things up.

Only if they come legally. You obviously have no idea what kind of immigration restrictions I favor do you should not jump to conclusions. You look foolish going so.
That doesn't change the economic analysis. Whether legally or not, they are meeting a demand.
They are seriously only meeting the demand by the party elites for more Democrat party voters over the last four years.
Again, if you have to import voters illegally to stay in power, you are not legit.
Noncitizen voting is vanishingly rare, despite what Trump would have you believe.

Not really. Instead more and more reports are coming out of illegal voting in 2024. It's quite possible that Trump's landslide victory was bigger than anyone realizes once one filters out all the fraudulent votes for Kamala, many by illegals with no right to vote in the US.
"Reports" meaning fake news from Truth Social.

In any case, you're kind of making my point. It's not really about economics.
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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

Porteroso said:

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Assassin said:



Tell me there's more to this tweet than you wanting this guy deported for having face tatos.
And please tell us that a young latin male with tattoos all over his face like this raises red flags for you in the very least, and would warrant closer attention from authorities.

I ask because based on your posting history, I'm not sure that it does.

Oh absolutely not. You mean if you see a Latin male with face tatoos you assume they need to be deported? Red flags? Needs attention from the government?

This is the reason the pendulum swings so hard lect.
LOL. Of course it doesn't. It's not too surprising given that you argued passionately that the parents who take their kids to drag queen story hour should be blamed, but the drag queens themselves should not. And that it's racist to say that BLM was a false narrative. It's a pattern.

And I didn't say that they should be deported simply for having face tattoos like what that guy had, I said it should raise red flags and warrant attention. Any sane, rational person would agree. You made strawman, because either you're dishonest, or you can't read or think straight, likely due to TDS. It seems to be endemic among the left and among rinos.

I made strawman? Lol was it by describing your post or directly quoting it? I assumed "red flags at the least" meant at most, deport him. That's what yhe tweet was about.

Also, are you aware of the Constitution? Do you realize that nobody should just be detained by police solely based upon race or tatoos? I mean strictly legally speaking, not talking about your personal vendetta against Hispanics with face tatoos.
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Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

Sam Lowry said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

You are looking at politics and I'm looking at economics. The Austrian School is a branch of economics, essentially capitalism iodates for modern conditions. Those other issues are irrelevant to the discussion.
What I'm saying is, strictly in terms of economics, foreign workers migrating across the border is a good thing from the Austrian point of view. It's nothing but supply and demand in action. The immigration restrictions that you favor are an example of the government messing things up.

Only if they come legally. You obviously have no idea what kind of immigration restrictions I favor do you should not jump to conclusions. You look foolish going so.
That doesn't change the economic analysis. Whether legally or not, they are meeting a demand.
They are seriously only meeting the demand by the party elites for more Democrat party voters over the last four years.
Again, if you have to import voters illegally to stay in power, you are not legit.
Noncitizen voting is vanishingly rare, despite what Trump would have you believe.

Not really. Instead more and more reports are coming out of illegal voting in 2024. It's quite possible that Trump's landslide victory was bigger than anyone realizes once one filters out all the fraudulent votes for Kamala, many by illegals with no right to vote in the US.
"Reports" meaning fake news from Truth Social.

In any case, you're kind of making my point. It's not really about economics.



You'd rather hear it from MSLSD?
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Assassin said:

gtownbear said:

The cities where the voter rolls are never cleaned have a large amount of cheating. Why is it always the blue cities that fight cleaning up their voter rolls? Could it be that when all the ballots are sent to voters and are then mailed in, many illegals and folks voting in more than one state get their votes through even though they are ineligible to vote? There is a great deal of cheating going on and most voters know it.
Everyone know it including the Democrats. As long as they pay the Main Stream Media to voice what they tell them, it will remain that way.

If it weren't for social media, no one would know the truth. And the USA would have Kamala Harris as POTUS and we would be going into bankruptcy as a country. Other globalist countries on the take, would pick the parts they wanted for themselves

How the heck do you figure we would be going bankrupt with Kamela as President? What, would she manufacture some sort of scenario where bond holders mass sell?
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Redbrickbear said:


That can't be right, he's a Maryland Man!
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historian said:

Sam Lowry said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

You are looking at politics and I'm looking at economics. The Austrian School is a branch of economics, essentially capitalism iodates for modern conditions. Those other issues are irrelevant to the discussion.
What I'm saying is, strictly in terms of economics, foreign workers migrating across the border is a good thing from the Austrian point of view. It's nothing but supply and demand in action. The immigration restrictions that you favor are an example of the government messing things up.

Only if they come legally. You obviously have no idea what kind of immigration restrictions I favor do you should not jump to conclusions. You look foolish going so.
That doesn't change the economic analysis. Whether legally or not, they are meeting a demand.
They are seriously only meeting the demand by the party elites for more Democrat party voters over the last four years.
Again, if you have to import voters illegally to stay in power, you are not legit.
Noncitizen voting is vanishingly rare, despite what Trump would have you believe.

Not really. Instead more and more reports are coming out of illegal voting in 2024. It's quite possible that Trump's landslide victory was bigger than anyone realizes once one filters out all the fraudulent votes for Kamala, many by illegals with no right to vote in the US.

Do you have any evidence of significant numbers of illegals voting?
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Porteroso said:

historian said:

Sam Lowry said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

You are looking at politics and I'm looking at economics. The Austrian School is a branch of economics, essentially capitalism iodates for modern conditions. Those other issues are irrelevant to the discussion.
What I'm saying is, strictly in terms of economics, foreign workers migrating across the border is a good thing from the Austrian point of view. It's nothing but supply and demand in action. The immigration restrictions that you favor are an example of the government messing things up.

Only if they come legally. You obviously have no idea what kind of immigration restrictions I favor do you should not jump to conclusions. You look foolish going so.
That doesn't change the economic analysis. Whether legally or not, they are meeting a demand.
They are seriously only meeting the demand by the party elites for more Democrat party voters over the last four years.
Again, if you have to import voters illegally to stay in power, you are not legit.
Noncitizen voting is vanishingly rare, despite what Trump would have you believe.

Not really. Instead more and more reports are coming out of illegal voting in 2024. It's quite possible that Trump's landslide victory was bigger than anyone realizes once one filters out all the fraudulent votes for Kamala, many by illegals with no right to vote in the US.

Do you have any evidence of significant numbers of illegals voting?
The 2020 election comes to mind.

And you asked for evidence, not proof.
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Oldbear83 said:

Porteroso said:

historian said:

Sam Lowry said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

You are looking at politics and I'm looking at economics. The Austrian School is a branch of economics, essentially capitalism iodates for modern conditions. Those other issues are irrelevant to the discussion.
What I'm saying is, strictly in terms of economics, foreign workers migrating across the border is a good thing from the Austrian point of view. It's nothing but supply and demand in action. The immigration restrictions that you favor are an example of the government messing things up.

Only if they come legally. You obviously have no idea what kind of immigration restrictions I favor do you should not jump to conclusions. You look foolish going so.
That doesn't change the economic analysis. Whether legally or not, they are meeting a demand.
They are seriously only meeting the demand by the party elites for more Democrat party voters over the last four years.
Again, if you have to import voters illegally to stay in power, you are not legit.
Noncitizen voting is vanishingly rare, despite what Trump would have you believe.

Not really. Instead more and more reports are coming out of illegal voting in 2024. It's quite possible that Trump's landslide victory was bigger than anyone realizes once one filters out all the fraudulent votes for Kamala, many by illegals with no right to vote in the US.

Do you have any evidence of significant numbers of illegals voting?
The 2020 election comes to mind.

And you asked for evidence, not proof.

Sorry, I meant evidence.
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Porteroso said:

Oldbear83 said:

Porteroso said:

historian said:

Sam Lowry said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

You are looking at politics and I'm looking at economics. The Austrian School is a branch of economics, essentially capitalism iodates for modern conditions. Those other issues are irrelevant to the discussion.
What I'm saying is, strictly in terms of economics, foreign workers migrating across the border is a good thing from the Austrian point of view. It's nothing but supply and demand in action. The immigration restrictions that you favor are an example of the government messing things up.

Only if they come legally. You obviously have no idea what kind of immigration restrictions I favor do you should not jump to conclusions. You look foolish going so.
That doesn't change the economic analysis. Whether legally or not, they are meeting a demand.
They are seriously only meeting the demand by the party elites for more Democrat party voters over the last four years.
Again, if you have to import voters illegally to stay in power, you are not legit.
Noncitizen voting is vanishingly rare, despite what Trump would have you believe.

Not really. Instead more and more reports are coming out of illegal voting in 2024. It's quite possible that Trump's landslide victory was bigger than anyone realizes once one filters out all the fraudulent votes for Kamala, many by illegals with no right to vote in the US.

Do you have any evidence of significant numbers of illegals voting?
The 2020 election comes to mind.

And you asked for evidence, not proof.

Sorry, I meant evidence.
It's there. Not gonna rehash that whole thing, but it's there.
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Oldbear83 said:

Porteroso said:

historian said:

Sam Lowry said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

You are looking at politics and I'm looking at economics. The Austrian School is a branch of economics, essentially capitalism iodates for modern conditions. Those other issues are irrelevant to the discussion.
What I'm saying is, strictly in terms of economics, foreign workers migrating across the border is a good thing from the Austrian point of view. It's nothing but supply and demand in action. The immigration restrictions that you favor are an example of the government messing things up.

Only if they come legally. You obviously have no idea what kind of immigration restrictions I favor do you should not jump to conclusions. You look foolish going so.
That doesn't change the economic analysis. Whether legally or not, they are meeting a demand.
They are seriously only meeting the demand by the party elites for more Democrat party voters over the last four years.
Again, if you have to import voters illegally to stay in power, you are not legit.
Noncitizen voting is vanishingly rare, despite what Trump would have you believe.

Not really. Instead more and more reports are coming out of illegal voting in 2024. It's quite possible that Trump's landslide victory was bigger than anyone realizes once one filters out all the fraudulent votes for Kamala, many by illegals with no right to vote in the US.

Do you have any evidence of significant numbers of illegals voting?
The 2020 election comes to mind.

And you asked for evidence, not proof.
15-20 million magical voters. No one knows where they disappeared to. Still
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I have evidence that democrat cities refuse to clean up their voter rolls and I have evidence that democrats fight laws requiring proof of identity to vote. Why is this so?
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No after adding 7 Trillion to the national debt in four years, Biden and Harris were spending 2 trillion more than we were taking in each year as they had taken spending from around 20% of GDP where it had been historically to 24%. This trajectory had the country on the path to bankruptcy as our interest payments to service the debt reached 1 trillion dollars. Harris and Biden's answer was to advocate for more government spending. In addition the brilliant Janet Yellen moved much of the debt to short term bonds which was nuts. So when the interest rates rose due to inflation the debt payments rose due to the short term duration which the current administration is having to deal with. So yes the statement is correct that if Harris had won we were on the path to bankruptcy that could have only been avoided by inflating the currency to the level that it was worthless to pay off government debt. We, the public, would all have been paupers.
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Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

Sam Lowry said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

You are looking at politics and I'm looking at economics. The Austrian School is a branch of economics, essentially capitalism iodates for modern conditions. Those other issues are irrelevant to the discussion.
What I'm saying is, strictly in terms of economics, foreign workers migrating across the border is a good thing from the Austrian point of view. It's nothing but supply and demand in action. The immigration restrictions that you favor are an example of the government messing things up.

Only if they come legally. You obviously have no idea what kind of immigration restrictions I favor do you should not jump to conclusions. You look foolish going so.
That doesn't change the economic analysis. Whether legally or not, they are meeting a demand.
They are seriously only meeting the demand by the party elites for more Democrat party voters over the last four years.
Again, if you have to import voters illegally to stay in power, you are not legit.
Noncitizen voting is vanishingly rare, despite what Trump would have you believe.

Not really. Instead more and more reports are coming out of illegal voting in 2024. It's quite possible that Trump's landslide victory was bigger than anyone realizes once one filters out all the fraudulent votes for Kamala, many by illegals with no right to vote in the US.
"Reports" meaning fake news from Truth Social.

In any case, you're kind of making my point. It's not really about economics.

No. News reports from a variety of sources. I did not see any from Truth Social since I'm not on it and I don't think any of the stories I've seen referenced it.

The most recent is about illegals voting in Wisconsin but I recall stories about this issue in multiple states. If memory serves, at least one or two reports included responses by various govt agencies to address the problem.
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Assassin said:

Oldbear83 said:

Porteroso said:

historian said:

Sam Lowry said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

You are looking at politics and I'm looking at economics. The Austrian School is a branch of economics, essentially capitalism iodates for modern conditions. Those other issues are irrelevant to the discussion.
What I'm saying is, strictly in terms of economics, foreign workers migrating across the border is a good thing from the Austrian point of view. It's nothing but supply and demand in action. The immigration restrictions that you favor are an example of the government messing things up.

Only if they come legally. You obviously have no idea what kind of immigration restrictions I favor do you should not jump to conclusions. You look foolish going so.
That doesn't change the economic analysis. Whether legally or not, they are meeting a demand.
They are seriously only meeting the demand by the party elites for more Democrat party voters over the last four years.
Again, if you have to import voters illegally to stay in power, you are not legit.
Noncitizen voting is vanishingly rare, despite what Trump would have you believe.

Not really. Instead more and more reports are coming out of illegal voting in 2024. It's quite possible that Trump's landslide victory was bigger than anyone realizes once one filters out all the fraudulent votes for Kamala, many by illegals with no right to vote in the US.

Do you have any evidence of significant numbers of illegals voting?
The 2020 election comes to mind.

And you asked for evidence, not proof.
15-20 million magical voters. No one knows where they disappeared to. Still

It's possible that some of them have been deported!
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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I suspect that making us all paupers is the goal for at least some of the millionaires & billionaires pulling the strings of Biden & Harris.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
EatMoreSalmon
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Sam Lowry said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

You are looking at politics and I'm looking at economics. The Austrian School is a branch of economics, essentially capitalism iodates for modern conditions. Those other issues are irrelevant to the discussion.
What I'm saying is, strictly in terms of economics, foreign workers migrating across the border is a good thing from the Austrian point of view. It's nothing but supply and demand in action. The immigration restrictions that you favor are an example of the government messing things up.

Only if they come legally. You obviously have no idea what kind of immigration restrictions I favor do you should not jump to conclusions. You look foolish going so.
That doesn't change the economic analysis. Whether legally or not, they are meeting a demand.
They are seriously only meeting the demand by the party elites for more Democrat party voters over the last four years.
Again, if you have to import voters illegally to stay in power, you are not legit.
Noncitizen voting is vanishingly rare, despite what Trump would have you believe.


Think quick amnesty.
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historian said:

I suspect that making us all paupers is the goal for at least some of the millionaires & billionaires pulling the strings of Biden & Harris.
The goal is for us to be their domesticated animals, and they get to be the farmers.
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GrowlTowel said:

quash said:

gtownbear said:

I have seen numerous articles with factual support that state Garcia was an MS-13 gang member.

https://ijr.com/doj-releases-full-dossier-of-evidence-that-abrego-garcia-was-ms-13/

Yay. Present that in court. That's where the state gets to take advantage of due process and have their opportunity to be heard.
It was. Twice.


It's really sad that you know that due process was not part of either of those proceedings and can still say this.
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quash said:

GrowlTowel said:

quash said:

gtownbear said:

I have seen numerous articles with factual support that state Garcia was an MS-13 gang member.

https://ijr.com/doj-releases-full-dossier-of-evidence-that-abrego-garcia-was-ms-13/

Yay. Present that in court. That's where the state gets to take advantage of due process and have their opportunity to be heard.
It was. Twice.


It's really sad that you know that due process was not part of either of those proceedings and can still say this.


You chose to back the gang bangers, and the more facts that come out the worse you look

You are choosing some very poor hills to die on, and pretending the gangers didn't get due process because you don't like what they got is not helping your argument.

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Quash loves gang bangers. Maybe they bring his firm business.
 
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