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How cringe. Tim Walz just called ICE the “modern day Gestapo.”

“Trump's modern day Gestapo is scooping folks up. They're in unmarked vans, masks, being shipped off to foreign torture dungeons. Not even a chance to kiss loved ones goodbye.“
pic.twitter.com/iEbOOcONeS

— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) May 18, 2025

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Waltz is finished politically and is merely attempting to 'earn' a position with CNN or MSNBC as a talking head.

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He's too feminine for that role, they already have all the Estrogen they want.

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How cringe. Tim Walz just called ICE the “modern day Gestapo.”

“Trump's modern day Gestapo is scooping folks up. They're in unmarked vans, masks, being shipped off to foreign torture dungeons. Not even a chance to kiss loved ones goodbye.“
pic.twitter.com/iEbOOcONeS

— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) May 18, 2025

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Waltz is finished politically and is merely attempting to 'earn' a position with CNN or MSNBC as a talking head.

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He's too feminine for that role, they already have all the Estrogen they want.

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Designation of TdA as an agent of a foreign government is far from unassailable; in fact it's dubious at best. And the AEA has nothing to do with terrorist groups or activities. It's about wars and invasions, which are a whole different thing.

It would indeed be a surprise if the Roberts Court granted full due process rights in deportation hearings, in part because no one has ever asked or argued for that. Full due process rights are a straw man.

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You are conveniently ignoring substantial evidence backed by intelligence that foreign adversaries are pursuing unconventional warfare strategies via proxies crossing our borders illegally.

Those subject to AEA cannot be entitled to anything more than the same deportation hearing every other illegal has. Many of those deported indeed have already issued removal orders, including the poster child now in an El Salvadoran prison.

It's not hard to have an immigration judge at door of the plane handing the TDA, MS-13, et al deportation orders. How do you know we haven't done that? Why must it be an immigration judge doing the determinations? The IJ is in fact an executive branch official. Can't the AG appoint others to do the AEA determinations, or even do it herself?

You can scream due process all you want, but facts are facts. Removal proceedings are not criminal prosecutions. Ergo, they do not involve the same due process rights afforded to criminal defendants. We don't want to prosecute illegal aliens. We want to send them home. they have no right to be here whatsoever.

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Those subject under the AEA can't be entitled to anything less than those subject under the INA. They can be entitled to more, for example reasonable notice and time to depart voluntarily.

Again, no one is saying due process always looks the same. Only that it must always be respected.

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actually, not. INA empowers POTUS to declare entire classes of aliens inadmissable and order their deportation. So, Trump could have simply ordered all Venezuelan citizens deported. Instead, he just focused on gang members. For not casting the wider net, his critics call him a threat to democracy.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2025/mar/31/jimmy-carters-iranian-student-deportation-provides-precedent-modern/

Deportation is an administrative process wholly contained within the executive branch. So, SCOTUS wants a deportation hearing? Fine. Sit an Immigration Judge at a desk out on the tarmac and hand each gang member a deportation order as they board the plane. That is EXACTLY what I would do if I were POTUS tomorrow. It'll take a few weeks for the left to respond to that in the courts. In the meantime, thousands more transnational gang members will be gone.

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You cannot arbitrarily deport all people of a certain nationality.
Correct. I cannot do such. Thankfully, a POTUS can.

Carter only deported a few thousand nonimmigrant Iranians who couldn't document their status.
LOL. That is EXACTLY what Trump is doing with the gangs.

Your courtroom-on-the-tarmac scheme would violate the law in any number of ways, including denial of the right to an impartial judge.
Flatly incorrect. Deportation hearings occur before immigration judges, who are Executive Branch officials because the Immigration & Naturalization Act explicitly removes jurisdiction for removal proceedings from the Judicial Branch. WHERE that immigration judge sits is not material. In fact, most immigration hearings today are done via teleconference.....judges can & do hold court from their homes.

As you apparently realize, it would indeed be subject to review from outside the executive branch.
Only to determine if the proceeding complied with the INA, not the determination of deportability itself.

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The judiciary has already ruled against your position, 9-0 = federal courts have an extraordinarily limited role in deportation proceedings, foreign affairs, etc..... That's why they issued such soft language in the demand to "facilitate" release. It was a suggestion, not an order. They did not question Abrego's deportability, only the error in where he was sent.

The broader question at hand with Trump's use of the AEA is whether or not that statute obviates advance notice for a deportation hearing. If it does not, then the AEA is meaningless. I would expect a Roberts court to dodge that question in its final ruling.

You are engaging in judicial activism that SCOTUS has already rejected, numerous times. Check out Bourfara v. Mayorkas, for example, which refused to curtail the Executive Branch's sweeping powers to determine deportability of aliens. Justice Brown wrote the opinion. You might also review relevant statute:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1252
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227#a_2_A_ii

POTUS has almost unlimited discretion to determine deportability. One need not be convicted of a crime to be deported........ A protective order will do it. Getting arrested will do it. Failure to fill out forms in a timely fashion will do it. Events half a globe away could do it. No alien has a right to be here. None.

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No one said you had to be convicted of a crime in order to be deported. Other than that, you do not have the slightest idea what you're talking about.

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How cringe. Tim Walz just called ICE the “modern day Gestapo.”

“Trump's modern day Gestapo is scooping folks up. They're in unmarked vans, masks, being shipped off to foreign torture dungeons. Not even a chance to kiss loved ones goodbye.“
pic.twitter.com/iEbOOcONeS

— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) May 18, 2025

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Waltz is finished politically and is merely attempting to 'earn' a position with CNN or MSNBC as a talking head.

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How cringe. Tim Walz just called ICE the “modern day Gestapo.”

“Trump's modern day Gestapo is scooping folks up. They're in unmarked vans, masks, being shipped off to foreign torture dungeons. Not even a chance to kiss loved ones goodbye.“
pic.twitter.com/iEbOOcONeS

— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) May 18, 2025

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Waltz is finished politically and is merely attempting to 'earn' a position with CNN or MSNBC as a talking head.

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He will run and with a divided dem electorate he could win in the primary. People like 1947 will for sure vote for him.

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/05/obama-judge-says-hell-supreme-court-orders-trump/

President Trump follows the rulings from the Supreme Court. Now we have another Obama appointed judge thumbing his nose at a Supreme Court ruling he doesn't agree with and demands President Trump furnish more information to him. To Judge Chen I say tar, feathers, rail; sometimes the old ways of removal are still the best ways! lol.

Some of these district court judges elevate themselves to a power status never seen before in American judicial history. How could they not be for the illegals. Looks like most of them just washed up on our shores themselves and somehow got nominated to the Bench. Wow. Just wow. Are we in trouble or what? Think of it. These activist judges simply ignore the rulings and laws they dislike, even from the U.S. Supreme Court. If the Supreme Court does not stop these maniacs, we will soon have a complete breakdown in societal control. No one will believe in the judicial system due to its corrupt nature. Then it will be every individual for himself or herself.

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gtownbear said:

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/05/obama-judge-says-hell-supreme-court-orders-trump/

President Trump follows the rulings from the Supreme Court. Now we have another Obama appointed judge thumbing his nose at a Supreme Court ruling he doesn't agree with and demands President Trump furnish more information to him. To Judge Chen I say tar, feathers, rail; sometimes the old ways of removal are still the best ways! lol.

Some of these district court judges elevate themselves to a power status never seen before in American judicial history. How could they not be for the illegals. Looks like most of them just washed up on our shores themselves and somehow got nominated to the Bench. Wow. Just wow. Are we in trouble or what? Think of it. These activist judges simply ignore the rulings and laws they dislike, even from the U.S. Supreme Court. If the Supreme Court does not stop these maniacs, we will soon have a complete breakdown in societal control. No one will believe in the judicial system due to its corrupt nature. Then it will be every individual for himself or herself.

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Sam Lowry said:

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/05/obama-judge-says-hell-supreme-court-orders-trump/

President Trump follows the rulings from the Supreme Court. Now we have another Obama appointed judge thumbing his nose at a Supreme Court ruling he doesn't agree with and demands President Trump furnish more information to him. To Judge Chen I say tar, feathers, rail; sometimes the old ways of removal are still the best ways! lol.

Some of these district court judges elevate themselves to a power status never seen before in American judicial history. How could they not be for the illegals. Looks like most of them just washed up on our shores themselves and somehow got nominated to the Bench. Wow. Just wow. Are we in trouble or what? Think of it. These activist judges simply ignore the rulings and laws they dislike, even from the U.S. Supreme Court. If the Supreme Court does not stop these maniacs, we will soon have a complete breakdown in societal control. No one will believe in the judicial system due to its corrupt nature. Then it will be every individual for himself or herself.

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The judge is not ignoring the Supreme Court. The people writing these articles are the ones trying to break down the political order and belief in the judicial system.

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gtownbear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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gtownbear said:

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/05/obama-judge-says-hell-supreme-court-orders-trump/

President Trump follows the rulings from the Supreme Court. Now we have another Obama appointed judge thumbing his nose at a Supreme Court ruling he doesn't agree with and demands President Trump furnish more information to him. To Judge Chen I say tar, feathers, rail; sometimes the old ways of removal are still the best ways! lol.

Some of these district court judges elevate themselves to a power status never seen before in American judicial history. How could they not be for the illegals. Looks like most of them just washed up on our shores themselves and somehow got nominated to the Bench. Wow. Just wow. Are we in trouble or what? Think of it. These activist judges simply ignore the rulings and laws they dislike, even from the U.S. Supreme Court. If the Supreme Court does not stop these maniacs, we will soon have a complete breakdown in societal control. No one will believe in the judicial system due to its corrupt nature. Then it will be every individual for himself or herself.

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The judge is not ignoring the Supreme Court. The people writing these articles are the ones trying to break down the political order and belief in the judicial system.

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Yep Sam just like Joe Biden did not when he forgave the student loans when the Supreme Court said that would take a law passed by congress. You folks twist the law like a pretzel to make it come out the way you want. Next week you will take the opposite position if it suits your narrative and without shame.

The Supreme Court said Trump acted properly in overturning Biden's actions on the more than 300,000 Venezuelans and could deport them and this judge said before Trump did that he required him to provide certain information to his court. Sure looks like disobeying the Supreme Court to me.

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Sam Lowry said:

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/05/obama-judge-says-hell-supreme-court-orders-trump/

President Trump follows the rulings from the Supreme Court. Now we have another Obama appointed judge thumbing his nose at a Supreme Court ruling he doesn't agree with and demands President Trump furnish more information to him. To Judge Chen I say tar, feathers, rail; sometimes the old ways of removal are still the best ways! lol.

Some of these district court judges elevate themselves to a power status never seen before in American judicial history. How could they not be for the illegals. Looks like most of them just washed up on our shores themselves and somehow got nominated to the Bench. Wow. Just wow. Are we in trouble or what? Think of it. These activist judges simply ignore the rulings and laws they dislike, even from the U.S. Supreme Court. If the Supreme Court does not stop these maniacs, we will soon have a complete breakdown in societal control. No one will believe in the judicial system due to its corrupt nature. Then it will be every individual for himself or herself.

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The judge is not ignoring the Supreme Court. The people writing these articles are the ones trying to break down the political order and belief in the judicial system.

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Yep Sam just like Joe Biden did not when he forgave the student loans when the Supreme Court said that would take a law passed by congress. You folks twist the law like a pretzel to make it come out the way you want. Next week you will take the opposite position if it suits your narrative and without shame.

The Supreme Court said Trump acted properly in overturning Biden's actions on the more than 300,000 Venezuelans and could deport them and this judge said before Trump did that he required him to provide certain information to his court. Sure looks like disobeying the Supreme Court to me.

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Sam Lowry said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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gtownbear said:

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/05/obama-judge-says-hell-supreme-court-orders-trump/

President Trump follows the rulings from the Supreme Court. Now we have another Obama appointed judge thumbing his nose at a Supreme Court ruling he doesn't agree with and demands President Trump furnish more information to him. To Judge Chen I say tar, feathers, rail; sometimes the old ways of removal are still the best ways! lol.

Some of these district court judges elevate themselves to a power status never seen before in American judicial history. How could they not be for the illegals. Looks like most of them just washed up on our shores themselves and somehow got nominated to the Bench. Wow. Just wow. Are we in trouble or what? Think of it. These activist judges simply ignore the rulings and laws they dislike, even from the U.S. Supreme Court. If the Supreme Court does not stop these maniacs, we will soon have a complete breakdown in societal control. No one will believe in the judicial system due to its corrupt nature. Then it will be every individual for himself or herself.

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The judge is not ignoring the Supreme Court. The people writing these articles are the ones trying to break down the political order and belief in the judicial system.

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Yep Sam just like Joe Biden did not when he forgave the student loans when the Supreme Court said that would take a law passed by congress. You folks twist the law like a pretzel to make it come out the way you want. Next week you will take the opposite position if it suits your narrative and without shame.

The Supreme Court said Trump acted properly in overturning Biden's actions on the more than 300,000 Venezuelans and could deport them and this judge said before Trump did that he required him to provide certain information to his court. Sure looks like disobeying the Supreme Court to me.

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Biden complied with the Supreme Court's ruling.

You've been exposing yourself to some frighteningly bad legal commentary in recent days. "Every man for himself" is precisely what these people want...in the hope they can take advantage of it, naturally.

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Sam Lowry said:

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/05/obama-judge-says-hell-supreme-court-orders-trump/

President Trump follows the rulings from the Supreme Court. Now we have another Obama appointed judge thumbing his nose at a Supreme Court ruling he doesn't agree with and demands President Trump furnish more information to him. To Judge Chen I say tar, feathers, rail; sometimes the old ways of removal are still the best ways! lol.

Some of these district court judges elevate themselves to a power status never seen before in American judicial history. How could they not be for the illegals. Looks like most of them just washed up on our shores themselves and somehow got nominated to the Bench. Wow. Just wow. Are we in trouble or what? Think of it. These activist judges simply ignore the rulings and laws they dislike, even from the U.S. Supreme Court. If the Supreme Court does not stop these maniacs, we will soon have a complete breakdown in societal control. No one will believe in the judicial system due to its corrupt nature. Then it will be every individual for himself or herself.

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The judge is not ignoring the Supreme Court. The people writing these articles are the ones trying to break down the political order and belief in the judicial system.

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Yep Sam just like Joe Biden did not when he forgave the student loans when the Supreme Court said that would take a law passed by congress. You folks twist the law like a pretzel to make it come out the way you want. Next week you will take the opposite position if it suits your narrative and without shame.

The Supreme Court said Trump acted properly in overturning Biden's actions on the more than 300,000 Venezuelans and could deport them and this judge said before Trump did that he required him to provide certain information to his court. Sure looks like disobeying the Supreme Court to me.

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Biden complied with the Supreme Court's ruling.

You've been exposing yourself to some frighteningly bad legal commentary in recent days. "Every man for himself" is precisely what these people want...in the hope they can take advantage of it, naturally.

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Address Obama's expedited deportation program and get back with us.

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Sam - given your passion for the law, do you oppose so-called "sanctuary cities?" Do they pose a THREAT TO DEMOCRACY and constitutional crisis?

Do you support this: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ice-captures-illegal-immigrant-wanted-allegedly-killing-mother-dui-crash

How many innocents must die to satiate your lust for TDS?

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Sam Lowry said:

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Sam - given your passion for the law, do you oppose so-called "sanctuary cities?" Do they pose a THREAT TO DEMOCRACY and constitutional crisis?

Do you support this: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ice-captures-illegal-immigrant-wanted-allegedly-killing-mother-dui-crash

How many innocents must die to satiate your lust for TDS?

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No, sanctuary cities are not a constitutional crisis. They are a consequence of federalism. Whether they're a good idea is a different question, which the citizens of Minnesota and other states must answer for themselves.

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/05/obama-judge-says-hell-supreme-court-orders-trump/

President Trump follows the rulings from the Supreme Court. Now we have another Obama appointed judge thumbing his nose at a Supreme Court ruling he doesn't agree with and demands President Trump furnish more information to him. To Judge Chen I say tar, feathers, rail; sometimes the old ways of removal are still the best ways! lol.

Some of these district court judges elevate themselves to a power status never seen before in American judicial history. How could they not be for the illegals. Looks like most of them just washed up on our shores themselves and somehow got nominated to the Bench. Wow. Just wow. Are we in trouble or what? Think of it. These activist judges simply ignore the rulings and laws they dislike, even from the U.S. Supreme Court. If the Supreme Court does not stop these maniacs, we will soon have a complete breakdown in societal control. No one will believe in the judicial system due to its corrupt nature. Then it will be every individual for himself or herself.

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The judge is not ignoring the Supreme Court. The people writing these articles are the ones trying to break down the political order and belief in the judicial system.

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Yep Sam just like Joe Biden did not when he forgave the student loans when the Supreme Court said that would take a law passed by congress. You folks twist the law like a pretzel to make it come out the way you want. Next week you will take the opposite position if it suits your narrative and without shame.

The Supreme Court said Trump acted properly in overturning Biden's actions on the more than 300,000 Venezuelans and could deport them and this judge said before Trump did that he required him to provide certain information to his court. Sure looks like disobeying the Supreme Court to me.

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Biden complied with the Supreme Court's ruling.

You've been exposing yourself to some frighteningly bad legal commentary in recent days. "Every man for himself" is precisely what these people want...in the hope they can take advantage of it, naturally.

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Address Obama's expedited deportation program and get back with us.

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I was the first to bring it up. Have asked three or four times why Trump doesn't just do the same instead of willfully violating the law. Get back to me.

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Sam Lowry said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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gtownbear said:

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/05/obama-judge-says-hell-supreme-court-orders-trump/

President Trump follows the rulings from the Supreme Court. Now we have another Obama appointed judge thumbing his nose at a Supreme Court ruling he doesn't agree with and demands President Trump furnish more information to him. To Judge Chen I say tar, feathers, rail; sometimes the old ways of removal are still the best ways! lol.

Some of these district court judges elevate themselves to a power status never seen before in American judicial history. How could they not be for the illegals. Looks like most of them just washed up on our shores themselves and somehow got nominated to the Bench. Wow. Just wow. Are we in trouble or what? Think of it. These activist judges simply ignore the rulings and laws they dislike, even from the U.S. Supreme Court. If the Supreme Court does not stop these maniacs, we will soon have a complete breakdown in societal control. No one will believe in the judicial system due to its corrupt nature. Then it will be every individual for himself or herself.

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The judge is not ignoring the Supreme Court. The people writing these articles are the ones trying to break down the political order and belief in the judicial system.

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Yep Sam just like Joe Biden did not when he forgave the student loans when the Supreme Court said that would take a law passed by congress. You folks twist the law like a pretzel to make it come out the way you want. Next week you will take the opposite position if it suits your narrative and without shame.

The Supreme Court said Trump acted properly in overturning Biden's actions on the more than 300,000 Venezuelans and could deport them and this judge said before Trump did that he required him to provide certain information to his court. Sure looks like disobeying the Supreme Court to me.

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Biden complied with the Supreme Court's ruling.

You've been exposing yourself to some frighteningly bad legal commentary in recent days. "Every man for himself" is precisely what these people want...in the hope they can take advantage of it, naturally.

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gtownbear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/05/obama-judge-says-hell-supreme-court-orders-trump/

President Trump follows the rulings from the Supreme Court. Now we have another Obama appointed judge thumbing his nose at a Supreme Court ruling he doesn't agree with and demands President Trump furnish more information to him. To Judge Chen I say tar, feathers, rail; sometimes the old ways of removal are still the best ways! lol.

Some of these district court judges elevate themselves to a power status never seen before in American judicial history. How could they not be for the illegals. Looks like most of them just washed up on our shores themselves and somehow got nominated to the Bench. Wow. Just wow. Are we in trouble or what? Think of it. These activist judges simply ignore the rulings and laws they dislike, even from the U.S. Supreme Court. If the Supreme Court does not stop these maniacs, we will soon have a complete breakdown in societal control. No one will believe in the judicial system due to its corrupt nature. Then it will be every individual for himself or herself.

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The judge is not ignoring the Supreme Court. The people writing these articles are the ones trying to break down the political order and belief in the judicial system.

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Yep Sam just like Joe Biden did not when he forgave the student loans when the Supreme Court said that would take a law passed by congress. You folks twist the law like a pretzel to make it come out the way you want. Next week you will take the opposite position if it suits your narrative and without shame.

The Supreme Court said Trump acted properly in overturning Biden's actions on the more than 300,000 Venezuelans and could deport them and this judge said before Trump did that he required him to provide certain information to his court. Sure looks like disobeying the Supreme Court to me.

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Biden complied with the Supreme Court's ruling.

You've been exposing yourself to some frighteningly bad legal commentary in recent days. "Every man for himself" is precisely what these people want...in the hope they can take advantage of it, naturally.

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That is a ridiculous statement and you know it. You pull one small phrase out of a long paragraph as if that was the entire meaning of my comment. What a cheap trick. You well know that my point was that if activist judges continue to make rulings and injunctions that the public realizes are not based in law but rather just to stop President Trump politically, the public's faith in the justice system could be harmed to a degree which would bring about lawlessness due to the lack of belief in decisions produced by the judiciary.

As an example, I would bring up the backlash in public opinion over the lawfare by let's say overzealous Attorney Generals, District Attorneys and Prosecutors who brought lawsuit after lawsuit against President Trump as a political strategy. When the public realized the cases had no merit, and were simply to stop Trump politically, they got behind Trump and his poll numbers went up instead of down. The public was smarter than the idealogues thought.

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They had to know they would be denied asylum in all probability and so they did not bother to show. Who wants individuals in this country who disregard laws from the moment they enter the country.

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He literally bothered to show, was arrested on the spot, and was sent to a foreign prison camp. Remember, he's one of those immigrants who followed the rules...you know, the ones you were pretending to care about. You don't have anything to say?

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Do you have anything to say about hundreds of thousands of children being sexually trafficked through our border?

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Apparently I'm the only one who does.

If you actually care about punishing the wrongdoers and protecting the vulnerable, due process is the key. It's how you sort the guilty from the innocent.

Trump issues quotas and holds no one accountable for mistakes and abuses. That only encourages ICE to round up easy targets, people living with nothing to hide, not the real criminals. All while he seizes unprecedented "wartime" powers that would make you piss your pants if a Democrat did it.

It's all about emotion. Nothing else. Trump pushes your button, and you melt just like every quivering statist.

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You obviously don't care or you'd support zero tolerance for coming into our border illegally.

All of them are criminals as defined by our own laws. They trespassed which is a crime. It doesn't matter for what reason, they are criminals because they illegally came into our country. If you disagree, then you disagree with the law.

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Then a hearing would be a slam dunk for the State

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Except for the part where they don't show up and we have no idea where they are.

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So you "conservatives" trust the government to snatch up criminals and ship them overseas without a hearing? Not conservative

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Millions were brought into the country without due process.......yet now you magically demand due process, one by one, in order to get rid of them.

How enlightened.

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So, your trust in government surprises me. Isn't that different from your past posts?

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As usual, your response has almost nothing to do with the topic at hand.

Just forget it.

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You trust big government to identify & deport whomever they arrest.
Why not a hearing before a magistrate?

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the INA largely removes federal courts from the process of adjudicating status. Immigration judges are executive branch officials working under in the DOJ chain of command.

An applicant abroad seeking a visa does not get a hearing from a magistrate. He/she gets a determination from a executive branch official, a consular officer, who is given a "commission" by the POTUS. My was signed by Reagan. There is no review available for denial of an NIV request. Same is true for the immigration officer at a US Port of Entry. If they deny you entry, you are done. No appeal available. You are placed on the next flight back to whence you came. Immigration judges (who are executive branch officials) do not appear onto the scene until deportation occurs.

The reason an applicant standing on US soil at the visa window in a US POE can be returned home without review is because until the immigration officer at the POE puts an arrival stamp in the applicant's passport, that applicant is not within the jurisdiction of US courts.

That uncontested legal structure offers an easy remedy for illegal aliens apprehended anywhere. If they cannot produce documentation of their legal status, they can be taken to the nearest POE to present their case for entry to the immigration officials on duty, who upon determining they are clearly not eligible for entry into the USA will simply send them back across the border. Easy Peasy. Same for the AEA removals. If executive branch concludes an illegal alien is subject to the AEA, they can be removed directly.

Don't by the false dilemma being presented about Due process. Sure, anyone within the jurisdiction of the USA has due process rights for criminal prosecution. But deportation is not a criminal prosecution. It is an executive branch removal process for which originating statute sharply limits judiciary involvement. Indeed, it is far preferable to remove a criminal alien than to prosecute him. Prosecutions involve time and money, and if successful, years of time and money for incarceration. Far wiser to simply remove the illegal from the country. You have removed the problem at far, far less expense for the taxpayer. Nothing new there. Was taught such in the 1980s. and at that time such was uncontested common sense with millennia of precedence. Only in the social justice age has the lionization of illegal migration as both an economic necessity and a morally expiating act become a fad for elite society which bears none of the social costs of the ensuing policies.

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Let's be clear about what's happening to these people. They haven't simply been shown the door. They are indefinitely imprisoned, in the constructive custody of the United States, in violation of the AEA's notice requirements, the INA's protections against political persecution and torture, and the unanimous ruling of multiple US courts, including the Supreme Court, that they are entitled to habeas review at the very least. This is not how the system is supposed to work.

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Sam, the system is broken. Just think if you applied your law degree to fixing the system instead of supporting the broken and skewed one.

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Just think if you applied your energy to fixing the system instead of breaking it further. Abandoning the rule of law isn't going to change the economic realities behind this issue. You're just going to have an immigration problem and a police state to go along with it.

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Right now we have a police state that is determined to keep foreign criminals IN the USA

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That is NOT what these judges are doing. They are following the law and seeing that the executive does the same.

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If you applied your legal skills to fix the broken judicial system instead of teaching us how unjust the laws are today, maybe America would be that much stronger

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You are the one telling us the laws are inadequate. I'm just saying we should follow them.

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If slavery was legal, would you follow the law or be totally against it?

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I'd make a choice, not say one thing and do another. That's the weirdest analogy I've seen in a long time, though. Supporting due process is nothing like supporting slavery.

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You said we should follow the law, so I'm asking if there's any lines the law crosses which you'd refuse to follow.

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Sure, if the law required me to do something morally evil.

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Like allowing rapists, murderers, & terrorists to remain in the U.S. or allowing them to remain where they threaten all of us?

That's morally reprehensible whether legal or not.

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Sam - given your passion for the law, do you oppose so-called "sanctuary cities?" Do they pose a THREAT TO DEMOCRACY and constitutional crisis?

Do you support this: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ice-captures-illegal-immigrant-wanted-allegedly-killing-mother-dui-crash

How many innocents must die to satiate your lust for TDS?

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No, sanctuary cities are not a constitutional crisis. They are a consequence of federalism. Whether they're a good idea is a different question, which the citizens of Minnesota and other states must answer for themselves.

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I would point out the irony of your citation of federalism while endorsing federal district judges making nationwide injunctions, but I suspect we all know detecting irony is not one of your talents.

I give you credit - you never cease to amaze.

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/05/obama-judge-says-hell-supreme-court-orders-trump/

President Trump follows the rulings from the Supreme Court. Now we have another Obama appointed judge thumbing his nose at a Supreme Court ruling he doesn't agree with and demands President Trump furnish more information to him. To Judge Chen I say tar, feathers, rail; sometimes the old ways of removal are still the best ways! lol.

Some of these district court judges elevate themselves to a power status never seen before in American judicial history. How could they not be for the illegals. Looks like most of them just washed up on our shores themselves and somehow got nominated to the Bench. Wow. Just wow. Are we in trouble or what? Think of it. These activist judges simply ignore the rulings and laws they dislike, even from the U.S. Supreme Court. If the Supreme Court does not stop these maniacs, we will soon have a complete breakdown in societal control. No one will believe in the judicial system due to its corrupt nature. Then it will be every individual for himself or herself.

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The judge is not ignoring the Supreme Court. The people writing these articles are the ones trying to break down the political order and belief in the judicial system.

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Yep Sam just like Joe Biden did not when he forgave the student loans when the Supreme Court said that would take a law passed by congress. You folks twist the law like a pretzel to make it come out the way you want. Next week you will take the opposite position if it suits your narrative and without shame.

The Supreme Court said Trump acted properly in overturning Biden's actions on the more than 300,000 Venezuelans and could deport them and this judge said before Trump did that he required him to provide certain information to his court. Sure looks like disobeying the Supreme Court to me.

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Biden complied with the Supreme Court's ruling.

You've been exposing yourself to some frighteningly bad legal commentary in recent days. "Every man for himself" is precisely what these people want...in the hope they can take advantage of it, naturally.

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Address Obama's expedited deportation program and get back with us.

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I was the first to bring it up. Have asked three or four times why Trump doesn't just do the same instead of willfully violating the law. Get back to me.

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Trump is providing more so-called due process than did Obama .. get back to us when you can explain why you support that ... without using BUT TRUMP.

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They had to know they would be denied asylum in all probability and so they did not bother to show. Who wants individuals in this country who disregard laws from the moment they enter the country.

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He literally bothered to show, was arrested on the spot, and was sent to a foreign prison camp. Remember, he's one of those immigrants who followed the rules...you know, the ones you were pretending to care about. You don't have anything to say?

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Do you have anything to say about hundreds of thousands of children being sexually trafficked through our border?

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Apparently I'm the only one who does.

If you actually care about punishing the wrongdoers and protecting the vulnerable, due process is the key. It's how you sort the guilty from the innocent.

Trump issues quotas and holds no one accountable for mistakes and abuses. That only encourages ICE to round up easy targets, people living with nothing to hide, not the real criminals. All while he seizes unprecedented "wartime" powers that would make you piss your pants if a Democrat did it.

It's all about emotion. Nothing else. Trump pushes your button, and you melt just like every quivering statist.

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You obviously don't care or you'd support zero tolerance for coming into our border illegally.

All of them are criminals as defined by our own laws. They trespassed which is a crime. It doesn't matter for what reason, they are criminals because they illegally came into our country. If you disagree, then you disagree with the law.

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Then a hearing would be a slam dunk for the State

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Except for the part where they don't show up and we have no idea where they are.

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So you "conservatives" trust the government to snatch up criminals and ship them overseas without a hearing? Not conservative

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Millions were brought into the country without due process.......yet now you magically demand due process, one by one, in order to get rid of them.

How enlightened.

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So, your trust in government surprises me. Isn't that different from your past posts?

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As usual, your response has almost nothing to do with the topic at hand.

Just forget it.

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You trust big government to identify & deport whomever they arrest.
Why not a hearing before a magistrate?

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the INA largely removes federal courts from the process of adjudicating status. Immigration judges are executive branch officials working under in the DOJ chain of command.

An applicant abroad seeking a visa does not get a hearing from a magistrate. He/she gets a determination from a executive branch official, a consular officer, who is given a "commission" by the POTUS. My was signed by Reagan. There is no review available for denial of an NIV request. Same is true for the immigration officer at a US Port of Entry. If they deny you entry, you are done. No appeal available. You are placed on the next flight back to whence you came. Immigration judges (who are executive branch officials) do not appear onto the scene until deportation occurs.

The reason an applicant standing on US soil at the visa window in a US POE can be returned home without review is because until the immigration officer at the POE puts an arrival stamp in the applicant's passport, that applicant is not within the jurisdiction of US courts.

That uncontested legal structure offers an easy remedy for illegal aliens apprehended anywhere. If they cannot produce documentation of their legal status, they can be taken to the nearest POE to present their case for entry to the immigration officials on duty, who upon determining they are clearly not eligible for entry into the USA will simply send them back across the border. Easy Peasy. Same for the AEA removals. If executive branch concludes an illegal alien is subject to the AEA, they can be removed directly.

Don't by the false dilemma being presented about Due process. Sure, anyone within the jurisdiction of the USA has due process rights for criminal prosecution. But deportation is not a criminal prosecution. It is an executive branch removal process for which originating statute sharply limits judiciary involvement. Indeed, it is far preferable to remove a criminal alien than to prosecute him. Prosecutions involve time and money, and if successful, years of time and money for incarceration. Far wiser to simply remove the illegal from the country. You have removed the problem at far, far less expense for the taxpayer. Nothing new there. Was taught such in the 1980s. and at that time such was uncontested common sense with millennia of precedence. Only in the social justice age has the lionization of illegal migration as both an economic necessity and a morally expiating act become a fad for elite society which bears none of the social costs of the ensuing policies.

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Let's be clear about what's happening to these people. They haven't simply been shown the door. They are indefinitely imprisoned, in the constructive custody of the United States, in violation of the AEA's notice requirements, the INA's protections against political persecution and torture, and the unanimous ruling of multiple US courts, including the Supreme Court, that they are entitled to habeas review at the very least. This is not how the system is supposed to work.

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Sam, the system is broken. Just think if you applied your law degree to fixing the system instead of supporting the broken and skewed one.

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Just think if you applied your energy to fixing the system instead of breaking it further. Abandoning the rule of law isn't going to change the economic realities behind this issue. You're just going to have an immigration problem and a police state to go along with it.

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Right now we have a police state that is determined to keep foreign criminals IN the USA

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That is NOT what these judges are doing. They are following the law and seeing that the executive does the same.

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If you applied your legal skills to fix the broken judicial system instead of teaching us how unjust the laws are today, maybe America would be that much stronger

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You are the one telling us the laws are inadequate. I'm just saying we should follow them.

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If slavery was legal, would you follow the law or be totally against it?

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I'd make a choice, not say one thing and do another. That's the weirdest analogy I've seen in a long time, though. Supporting due process is nothing like supporting slavery.

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You said we should follow the law, so I'm asking if there's any lines the law crosses which you'd refuse to follow.

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Sure, if the law required me to do something morally evil.

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Like allowing rapists, murderers, & terrorists to remain in the U.S. or allowing them to remain where they threaten all of us?

That's morally reprehensible whether legal or not.

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Lawyers are good with defending the immoral, if they can hide behind lawyer speak.

Clearly illegal immigration has been immoral, the impacts on society have been severe.

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Sam Lowry said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/05/obama-judge-says-hell-supreme-court-orders-trump/

President Trump follows the rulings from the Supreme Court. Now we have another Obama appointed judge thumbing his nose at a Supreme Court ruling he doesn't agree with and demands President Trump furnish more information to him. To Judge Chen I say tar, feathers, rail; sometimes the old ways of removal are still the best ways! lol.

Some of these district court judges elevate themselves to a power status never seen before in American judicial history. How could they not be for the illegals. Looks like most of them just washed up on our shores themselves and somehow got nominated to the Bench. Wow. Just wow. Are we in trouble or what? Think of it. These activist judges simply ignore the rulings and laws they dislike, even from the U.S. Supreme Court. If the Supreme Court does not stop these maniacs, we will soon have a complete breakdown in societal control. No one will believe in the judicial system due to its corrupt nature. Then it will be every individual for himself or herself.

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The judge is not ignoring the Supreme Court. The people writing these articles are the ones trying to break down the political order and belief in the judicial system.

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Yep Sam just like Joe Biden did not when he forgave the student loans when the Supreme Court said that would take a law passed by congress. You folks twist the law like a pretzel to make it come out the way you want. Next week you will take the opposite position if it suits your narrative and without shame.

The Supreme Court said Trump acted properly in overturning Biden's actions on the more than 300,000 Venezuelans and could deport them and this judge said before Trump did that he required him to provide certain information to his court. Sure looks like disobeying the Supreme Court to me.

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Biden complied with the Supreme Court's ruling.

You've been exposing yourself to some frighteningly bad legal commentary in recent days. "Every man for himself" is precisely what these people want...in the hope they can take advantage of it, naturally.

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That is a ridiculous statement and you know it. You pull one small phrase out of a long paragraph as if that was the entire meaning of my comment. What a cheap trick. You well know that my point was that if activist judges continue to make rulings and injunctions that the public realizes are not based in law but rather just to stop President Trump politically, the public's faith in the justice system could be harmed to a degree which would bring about lawlessness due to the lack of belief in decisions produced by the judiciary.

As an example, I would bring up the backlash in public opinion over the lawfare by let's say overzealous Attorney Generals, District Attorneys and Prosecutors who brought lawsuit after lawsuit against President Trump as a political strategy. When the public realized the cases had no merit, and were simply to stop Trump politically, they got behind Trump and his poll numbers went up instead of down. The public was smarter than the idealogues thought.

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Sam Lowry said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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gtownbear said:

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/05/obama-judge-says-hell-supreme-court-orders-trump/

President Trump follows the rulings from the Supreme Court. Now we have another Obama appointed judge thumbing his nose at a Supreme Court ruling he doesn't agree with and demands President Trump furnish more information to him. To Judge Chen I say tar, feathers, rail; sometimes the old ways of removal are still the best ways! lol.

Some of these district court judges elevate themselves to a power status never seen before in American judicial history. How could they not be for the illegals. Looks like most of them just washed up on our shores themselves and somehow got nominated to the Bench. Wow. Just wow. Are we in trouble or what? Think of it. These activist judges simply ignore the rulings and laws they dislike, even from the U.S. Supreme Court. If the Supreme Court does not stop these maniacs, we will soon have a complete breakdown in societal control. No one will believe in the judicial system due to its corrupt nature. Then it will be every individual for himself or herself.

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The judge is not ignoring the Supreme Court. The people writing these articles are the ones trying to break down the political order and belief in the judicial system.

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Yep Sam just like Joe Biden did not when he forgave the student loans when the Supreme Court said that would take a law passed by congress. You folks twist the law like a pretzel to make it come out the way you want. Next week you will take the opposite position if it suits your narrative and without shame.

The Supreme Court said Trump acted properly in overturning Biden's actions on the more than 300,000 Venezuelans and could deport them and this judge said before Trump did that he required him to provide certain information to his court. Sure looks like disobeying the Supreme Court to me.

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Biden complied with the Supreme Court's ruling.

You've been exposing yourself to some frighteningly bad legal commentary in recent days. "Every man for himself" is precisely what these people want...in the hope they can take advantage of it, naturally.

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That is a ridiculous statement and you know it. You pull one small phrase out of a long paragraph as if that was the entire meaning of my comment. What a cheap trick. You well know that my point was that if activist judges continue to make rulings and injunctions that the public realizes are not based in law but rather just to stop President Trump politically, the public's faith in the justice system could be harmed to a degree which would bring about lawlessness due to the lack of belief in decisions produced by the judiciary.

As an example, I would bring up the backlash in public opinion over the lawfare by let's say overzealous Attorney Generals, District Attorneys and Prosecutors who brought lawsuit after lawsuit against President Trump as a political strategy. When the public realized the cases had no merit, and were simply to stop Trump politically, they got behind Trump and his poll numbers went up instead of down. The public was smarter than the idealogues thought.

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I understood your point. My point is that you're being lied to.

The judge explained his action very simply: "The Supreme Court's decision stayed the Court's postponement order but did not stay litigation on the merits."

Stop listening to people who deliberately poison your mind.

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Sam Lowry said:

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gtownbear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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gtownbear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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gtownbear said:

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/05/obama-judge-says-hell-supreme-court-orders-trump/

President Trump follows the rulings from the Supreme Court. Now we have another Obama appointed judge thumbing his nose at a Supreme Court ruling he doesn't agree with and demands President Trump furnish more information to him. To Judge Chen I say tar, feathers, rail; sometimes the old ways of removal are still the best ways! lol.

Some of these district court judges elevate themselves to a power status never seen before in American judicial history. How could they not be for the illegals. Looks like most of them just washed up on our shores themselves and somehow got nominated to the Bench. Wow. Just wow. Are we in trouble or what? Think of it. These activist judges simply ignore the rulings and laws they dislike, even from the U.S. Supreme Court. If the Supreme Court does not stop these maniacs, we will soon have a complete breakdown in societal control. No one will believe in the judicial system due to its corrupt nature. Then it will be every individual for himself or herself.

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The judge is not ignoring the Supreme Court. The people writing these articles are the ones trying to break down the political order and belief in the judicial system.

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Yep Sam just like Joe Biden did not when he forgave the student loans when the Supreme Court said that would take a law passed by congress. You folks twist the law like a pretzel to make it come out the way you want. Next week you will take the opposite position if it suits your narrative and without shame.

The Supreme Court said Trump acted properly in overturning Biden's actions on the more than 300,000 Venezuelans and could deport them and this judge said before Trump did that he required him to provide certain information to his court. Sure looks like disobeying the Supreme Court to me.

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Biden complied with the Supreme Court's ruling.

You've been exposing yourself to some frighteningly bad legal commentary in recent days. "Every man for himself" is precisely what these people want...in the hope they can take advantage of it, naturally.

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That is a ridiculous statement and you know it. You pull one small phrase out of a long paragraph as if that was the entire meaning of my comment. What a cheap trick. You well know that my point was that if activist judges continue to make rulings and injunctions that the public realizes are not based in law but rather just to stop President Trump politically, the public's faith in the justice system could be harmed to a degree which would bring about lawlessness due to the lack of belief in decisions produced by the judiciary.

As an example, I would bring up the backlash in public opinion over the lawfare by let's say overzealous Attorney Generals, District Attorneys and Prosecutors who brought lawsuit after lawsuit against President Trump as a political strategy. When the public realized the cases had no merit, and were simply to stop Trump politically, they got behind Trump and his poll numbers went up instead of down. The public was smarter than the idealogues thought.

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I understood your point. My point is that you're being lied to.

The judge explained his action very simply: "The Supreme Court's decision stayed the Court's postponement order but did not stay litigation on the merits."

Stop listening to people who deliberately poison your mind.

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My mind is fine. We have a country when the illegals are sent packing. If they are allowed to stay I am not so sure. I have no poison anywhere. Thanks for the concern though.

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How cringe. Tim Walz just called ICE the “modern day Gestapo.”

“Trump's modern day Gestapo is scooping folks up. They're in unmarked vans, masks, being shipped off to foreign torture dungeons. Not even a chance to kiss loved ones goodbye.“
pic.twitter.com/iEbOOcONeS

— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) May 18, 2025

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If you break no laws you need no due process.

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Sam Lowry said:

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gtownbear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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gtownbear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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gtownbear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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gtownbear said:

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/05/obama-judge-says-hell-supreme-court-orders-trump/

President Trump follows the rulings from the Supreme Court. Now we have another Obama appointed judge thumbing his nose at a Supreme Court ruling he doesn't agree with and demands President Trump furnish more information to him. To Judge Chen I say tar, feathers, rail; sometimes the old ways of removal are still the best ways! lol.

Some of these district court judges elevate themselves to a power status never seen before in American judicial history. How could they not be for the illegals. Looks like most of them just washed up on our shores themselves and somehow got nominated to the Bench. Wow. Just wow. Are we in trouble or what? Think of it. These activist judges simply ignore the rulings and laws they dislike, even from the U.S. Supreme Court. If the Supreme Court does not stop these maniacs, we will soon have a complete breakdown in societal control. No one will believe in the judicial system due to its corrupt nature. Then it will be every individual for himself or herself.

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The judge is not ignoring the Supreme Court. The people writing these articles are the ones trying to break down the political order and belief in the judicial system.

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Yep Sam just like Joe Biden did not when he forgave the student loans when the Supreme Court said that would take a law passed by congress. You folks twist the law like a pretzel to make it come out the way you want. Next week you will take the opposite position if it suits your narrative and without shame.

The Supreme Court said Trump acted properly in overturning Biden's actions on the more than 300,000 Venezuelans and could deport them and this judge said before Trump did that he required him to provide certain information to his court. Sure looks like disobeying the Supreme Court to me.

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Biden complied with the Supreme Court's ruling.

You've been exposing yourself to some frighteningly bad legal commentary in recent days. "Every man for himself" is precisely what these people want...in the hope they can take advantage of it, naturally.

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That is a ridiculous statement and you know it. You pull one small phrase out of a long paragraph as if that was the entire meaning of my comment. What a cheap trick. You well know that my point was that if activist judges continue to make rulings and injunctions that the public realizes are not based in law but rather just to stop President Trump politically, the public's faith in the justice system could be harmed to a degree which would bring about lawlessness due to the lack of belief in decisions produced by the judiciary.

As an example, I would bring up the backlash in public opinion over the lawfare by let's say overzealous Attorney Generals, District Attorneys and Prosecutors who brought lawsuit after lawsuit against President Trump as a political strategy. When the public realized the cases had no merit, and were simply to stop Trump politically, they got behind Trump and his poll numbers went up instead of down. The public was smarter than the idealogues thought.

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I understood your point. My point is that you're being lied to.

The judge explained his action very simply: "The Supreme Court's decision stayed the Court's postponement order but did not stay litigation on the merits."

Stop listening to people who deliberately poison your mind.

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My mind is fine. We have a country when the illegals are sent packing. If they are allowed to stay I am not so sure. I have no poison anywhere. Thanks for the concern though.

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What if I told you…we can control our borders and also have a democracy?

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Sam Lowry said:

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gtownbear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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gtownbear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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gtownbear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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gtownbear said:

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/05/obama-judge-says-hell-supreme-court-orders-trump/

President Trump follows the rulings from the Supreme Court. Now we have another Obama appointed judge thumbing his nose at a Supreme Court ruling he doesn't agree with and demands President Trump furnish more information to him. To Judge Chen I say tar, feathers, rail; sometimes the old ways of removal are still the best ways! lol.

Some of these district court judges elevate themselves to a power status never seen before in American judicial history. How could they not be for the illegals. Looks like most of them just washed up on our shores themselves and somehow got nominated to the Bench. Wow. Just wow. Are we in trouble or what? Think of it. These activist judges simply ignore the rulings and laws they dislike, even from the U.S. Supreme Court. If the Supreme Court does not stop these maniacs, we will soon have a complete breakdown in societal control. No one will believe in the judicial system due to its corrupt nature. Then it will be every individual for himself or herself.

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The judge is not ignoring the Supreme Court. The people writing these articles are the ones trying to break down the political order and belief in the judicial system.

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Yep Sam just like Joe Biden did not when he forgave the student loans when the Supreme Court said that would take a law passed by congress. You folks twist the law like a pretzel to make it come out the way you want. Next week you will take the opposite position if it suits your narrative and without shame.

The Supreme Court said Trump acted properly in overturning Biden's actions on the more than 300,000 Venezuelans and could deport them and this judge said before Trump did that he required him to provide certain information to his court. Sure looks like disobeying the Supreme Court to me.

---

Biden complied with the Supreme Court's ruling.

You've been exposing yourself to some frighteningly bad legal commentary in recent days. "Every man for himself" is precisely what these people want...in the hope they can take advantage of it, naturally.

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That is a ridiculous statement and you know it. You pull one small phrase out of a long paragraph as if that was the entire meaning of my comment. What a cheap trick. You well know that my point was that if activist judges continue to make rulings and injunctions that the public realizes are not based in law but rather just to stop President Trump politically, the public's faith in the justice system could be harmed to a degree which would bring about lawlessness due to the lack of belief in decisions produced by the judiciary.

As an example, I would bring up the backlash in public opinion over the lawfare by let's say overzealous Attorney Generals, District Attorneys and Prosecutors who brought lawsuit after lawsuit against President Trump as a political strategy. When the public realized the cases had no merit, and were simply to stop Trump politically, they got behind Trump and his poll numbers went up instead of down. The public was smarter than the idealogues thought.

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I understood your point. My point is that you're being lied to.

The judge explained his action very simply: "The Supreme Court's decision stayed the Court's postponement order but did not stay litigation on the merits."

Stop listening to people who deliberately poison your mind.

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My mind is fine. We have a country when the illegals are sent packing. If they are allowed to stay I am not so sure. I have no poison anywhere. Thanks for the concern though.

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What if I told you…we can control our borders and also have a democracy?

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Oldbear83 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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gtownbear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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gtownbear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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gtownbear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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gtownbear said:

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/05/obama-judge-says-hell-supreme-court-orders-trump/

President Trump follows the rulings from the Supreme Court. Now we have another Obama appointed judge thumbing his nose at a Supreme Court ruling he doesn't agree with and demands President Trump furnish more information to him. To Judge Chen I say tar, feathers, rail; sometimes the old ways of removal are still the best ways! lol.

Some of these district court judges elevate themselves to a power status never seen before in American judicial history. How could they not be for the illegals. Looks like most of them just washed up on our shores themselves and somehow got nominated to the Bench. Wow. Just wow. Are we in trouble or what? Think of it. These activist judges simply ignore the rulings and laws they dislike, even from the U.S. Supreme Court. If the Supreme Court does not stop these maniacs, we will soon have a complete breakdown in societal control. No one will believe in the judicial system due to its corrupt nature. Then it will be every individual for himself or herself.

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The judge is not ignoring the Supreme Court. The people writing these articles are the ones trying to break down the political order and belief in the judicial system.

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Yep Sam just like Joe Biden did not when he forgave the student loans when the Supreme Court said that would take a law passed by congress. You folks twist the law like a pretzel to make it come out the way you want. Next week you will take the opposite position if it suits your narrative and without shame.

The Supreme Court said Trump acted properly in overturning Biden's actions on the more than 300,000 Venezuelans and could deport them and this judge said before Trump did that he required him to provide certain information to his court. Sure looks like disobeying the Supreme Court to me.

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Biden complied with the Supreme Court's ruling.

You've been exposing yourself to some frighteningly bad legal commentary in recent days. "Every man for himself" is precisely what these people want...in the hope they can take advantage of it, naturally.

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That is a ridiculous statement and you know it. You pull one small phrase out of a long paragraph as if that was the entire meaning of my comment. What a cheap trick. You well know that my point was that if activist judges continue to make rulings and injunctions that the public realizes are not based in law but rather just to stop President Trump politically, the public's faith in the justice system could be harmed to a degree which would bring about lawlessness due to the lack of belief in decisions produced by the judiciary.

As an example, I would bring up the backlash in public opinion over the lawfare by let's say overzealous Attorney Generals, District Attorneys and Prosecutors who brought lawsuit after lawsuit against President Trump as a political strategy. When the public realized the cases had no merit, and were simply to stop Trump politically, they got behind Trump and his poll numbers went up instead of down. The public was smarter than the idealogues thought.

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I understood your point. My point is that you're being lied to.

The judge explained his action very simply: "The Supreme Court's decision stayed the Court's postponement order but did not stay litigation on the merits."

Stop listening to people who deliberately poison your mind.

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My mind is fine. We have a country when the illegals are sent packing. If they are allowed to stay I am not so sure. I have no poison anywhere. Thanks for the concern though.

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What if I told you…we can control our borders and also have a democracy?

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First of all, we are a Republic, not a Democracy.

Second, we have controlled the border, but there is a crisis of violent illegals which you feel innocent citizens must suffer for the sake of your personal whims.

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Doc Holliday said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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gtownbear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/05/obama-judge-says-hell-supreme-court-orders-trump/

President Trump follows the rulings from the Supreme Court. Now we have another Obama appointed judge thumbing his nose at a Supreme Court ruling he doesn't agree with and demands President Trump furnish more information to him. To Judge Chen I say tar, feathers, rail; sometimes the old ways of removal are still the best ways! lol.

Some of these district court judges elevate themselves to a power status never seen before in American judicial history. How could they not be for the illegals. Looks like most of them just washed up on our shores themselves and somehow got nominated to the Bench. Wow. Just wow. Are we in trouble or what? Think of it. These activist judges simply ignore the rulings and laws they dislike, even from the U.S. Supreme Court. If the Supreme Court does not stop these maniacs, we will soon have a complete breakdown in societal control. No one will believe in the judicial system due to its corrupt nature. Then it will be every individual for himself or herself.

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The judge is not ignoring the Supreme Court. The people writing these articles are the ones trying to break down the political order and belief in the judicial system.

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Yep Sam just like Joe Biden did not when he forgave the student loans when the Supreme Court said that would take a law passed by congress. You folks twist the law like a pretzel to make it come out the way you want. Next week you will take the opposite position if it suits your narrative and without shame.

The Supreme Court said Trump acted properly in overturning Biden's actions on the more than 300,000 Venezuelans and could deport them and this judge said before Trump did that he required him to provide certain information to his court. Sure looks like disobeying the Supreme Court to me.

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Biden complied with the Supreme Court's ruling.

You've been exposing yourself to some frighteningly bad legal commentary in recent days. "Every man for himself" is precisely what these people want...in the hope they can take advantage of it, naturally.

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That is a ridiculous statement and you know it. You pull one small phrase out of a long paragraph as if that was the entire meaning of my comment. What a cheap trick. You well know that my point was that if activist judges continue to make rulings and injunctions that the public realizes are not based in law but rather just to stop President Trump politically, the public's faith in the justice system could be harmed to a degree which would bring about lawlessness due to the lack of belief in decisions produced by the judiciary.

As an example, I would bring up the backlash in public opinion over the lawfare by let's say overzealous Attorney Generals, District Attorneys and Prosecutors who brought lawsuit after lawsuit against President Trump as a political strategy. When the public realized the cases had no merit, and were simply to stop Trump politically, they got behind Trump and his poll numbers went up instead of down. The public was smarter than the idealogues thought.

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I understood your point. My point is that you're being lied to.

The judge explained his action very simply: "The Supreme Court's decision stayed the Court's postponement order but did not stay litigation on the merits."

Stop listening to people who deliberately poison your mind.

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My mind is fine. We have a country when the illegals are sent packing. If they are allowed to stay I am not so sure. I have no poison anywhere. Thanks for the concern though.

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What if I told you…we can control our borders and also have a democracy?

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What if I told you that if we don't control our borders now and don't get a handle on the millions of illegals within the country, it will be catastrophic in the long term?

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Sam Lowry said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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gtownbear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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gtownbear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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gtownbear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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gtownbear said:

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/05/obama-judge-says-hell-supreme-court-orders-trump/

President Trump follows the rulings from the Supreme Court. Now we have another Obama appointed judge thumbing his nose at a Supreme Court ruling he doesn't agree with and demands President Trump furnish more information to him. To Judge Chen I say tar, feathers, rail; sometimes the old ways of removal are still the best ways! lol.

Some of these district court judges elevate themselves to a power status never seen before in American judicial history. How could they not be for the illegals. Looks like most of them just washed up on our shores themselves and somehow got nominated to the Bench. Wow. Just wow. Are we in trouble or what? Think of it. These activist judges simply ignore the rulings and laws they dislike, even from the U.S. Supreme Court. If the Supreme Court does not stop these maniacs, we will soon have a complete breakdown in societal control. No one will believe in the judicial system due to its corrupt nature. Then it will be every individual for himself or herself.

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The judge is not ignoring the Supreme Court. The people writing these articles are the ones trying to break down the political order and belief in the judicial system.

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Yep Sam just like Joe Biden did not when he forgave the student loans when the Supreme Court said that would take a law passed by congress. You folks twist the law like a pretzel to make it come out the way you want. Next week you will take the opposite position if it suits your narrative and without shame.

The Supreme Court said Trump acted properly in overturning Biden's actions on the more than 300,000 Venezuelans and could deport them and this judge said before Trump did that he required him to provide certain information to his court. Sure looks like disobeying the Supreme Court to me.

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Biden complied with the Supreme Court's ruling.

You've been exposing yourself to some frighteningly bad legal commentary in recent days. "Every man for himself" is precisely what these people want...in the hope they can take advantage of it, naturally.

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That is a ridiculous statement and you know it. You pull one small phrase out of a long paragraph as if that was the entire meaning of my comment. What a cheap trick. You well know that my point was that if activist judges continue to make rulings and injunctions that the public realizes are not based in law but rather just to stop President Trump politically, the public's faith in the justice system could be harmed to a degree which would bring about lawlessness due to the lack of belief in decisions produced by the judiciary.

As an example, I would bring up the backlash in public opinion over the lawfare by let's say overzealous Attorney Generals, District Attorneys and Prosecutors who brought lawsuit after lawsuit against President Trump as a political strategy. When the public realized the cases had no merit, and were simply to stop Trump politically, they got behind Trump and his poll numbers went up instead of down. The public was smarter than the idealogues thought.

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I understood your point. My point is that you're being lied to.

The judge explained his action very simply: "The Supreme Court's decision stayed the Court's postponement order but did not stay litigation on the merits."

Stop listening to people who deliberately poison your mind.

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My mind is fine. We have a country when the illegals are sent packing. If they are allowed to stay I am not so sure. I have no poison anywhere. Thanks for the concern though.

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What if I told you…we can control our borders and also have a democracy?

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What if I told you that if we don't control our borders now and don't get a handle on the millions of illegals within the country, it will be catastrophic in the long term?

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So will giving up on the rule of law. If only there were a way to deport people legally...

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