Federal Judge blocks Trump from deporting illegal alien gang members

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Waco1947
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Sam Lowry said:

Waco1947 said:

Adriacus Peratuun said:

The issue arising from the immigration cases is substantially the same as arising under cases in other areas:

Judicial overreach.

While the SCOTUS opinion that illegals are entitled to Due Process might be wrong, at least it a defensible position.
The real problem is the judiciary intervening to describe what process is due and how it must be administered. Those questions belong to the legislative (what process) and executive branches (how to administer). Courts are constitutionally prohibited from making policy but they forge ahead doing so. It is mandatory school busing and seizure of prison systems all over again. The only real question they should be asking is whether a constitutional and/or statutory basis exists for the action. Installing a process or grading the usage of the process is stepping outside their constitutional role.
Any lawyers around. Is Adrict correct?
It's complete nonsense.
Actually, as always you spout leftist nonsense and blather incoherently.

ICC: SCOTUS in the late 50s & 60s allows the government to run amok with the ICC in the name of doing good to fight racial issues. But since the 90s SCOTUS has dismantled that nonsense. The Lopez, Morrison, and NFIB cases all clawed back the nonsense. Last year the ND Tex struck a big blow with the Hobby Distillers Association opinion.

School Busing: Milliken & Swann opinions allowed nonsense. Has consistently been whittled away with cases such as Parents Involved in Community Schools.

One version of SCOTUS always overreaches allowing district courts to run amok. Later versions of SCOTUS are left to fix the mess.

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Waco1947 said:

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Sam isn't a lawyer.
Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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GrowlTowel said:

Waco1947 said:

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Sam isn't a lawyer.


Is that a criticism, a compliment, or simply a statement of clarification?
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GrowlTowel said:

Waco1947 said:

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Minor detail
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Just have a hearing

U.S. District Judge Gordon P. Gallagher in Colorado found that "deportation without process could work irreparable harm and an order must issue without notice due to the urgency this situation presents." He scheduled a hearing in the case for next week.
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Osodecentx said:

Just have a hearing

U.S. District Judge Gordon P. Gallagher in Colorado found that "deportation without process could work irreparable harm and an order must issue without notice due to the urgency this situation presents." He scheduled a hearing in the case for next week.
in what court?
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Osodecentx said:

Just have a hearing

U.S. District Judge Gordon P. Gallagher in Colorado found that "deportation without process could work irreparable harm and an order must issue without notice due to the urgency this situation presents." He scheduled a hearing in the case for next week.


No justice in Colorado, is it still called a "kangaroo court" when the United States gets railroaded by a commie judge?
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Oldbear83 said:

GrowlTowel said:

Waco1947 said:

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Sam isn't a lawyer.


Is that a criticism, a compliment, or simply a statement of clarification?
Clarification. 47 asked for a lawyer to analyze Adriacus Peratuun's post about judicial overreach. Sam responded and 47 thanked him - but Sam isn't a lawyer.
Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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Looks like Kilmar Garcia charged with human trafficking here in the United States. Guess Judge Boasberg is satisfied, Senator Van Hollen is out airplane fare to and from El Salvador and two Margaritas, and I will be happy when he is convicted, serves his time and then deported when literally no one will care.

https://tennesseestar.com/justice/kilmar-abrego-garcia-to-reportedly-face-criminal-charges-following-return-to-united-states/tpappert/2025/06/06/
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And apparently he will have had due process, regardless of the official outcome.
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BUDOS said:

And apparently he will have had due process, regardless of the official outcome.
And whatever happens, Senor Garcia is no longer forced to have drinks with Democrat suitors in El Salvador.
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BUDOS said:

And apparently he will have had due process, regardless of the official outcome.
Two or three due processes. Taxpayers, unfortunately, will spend a great deal on a criminal gangster who never should have been here. I'll spend my time helping legal, law abiding American Citizens.
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BUDOS said:

And apparently he will have had due process, regardless of the official outcome.
And the American taxpayer will have spent many, many millions of unnecessary dollars
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That's one of the major goals of the Left: to waste our money on stupid nonsense. It's a big reason our national debt is out of control.
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BUDOS said:

And apparently he will have had due process, regardless of the official outcome.


The real goal of leftists is to delay the deportation of millions of illegals as much as possible until Trump is out of office.
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Doc Holliday said:


Dear Rep. Thomas Massie,
Apparently those across the aisle disagree with you. Shout from the mountaintop who disagrees with these two ideas.
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To understand the absolute necessity for removing these illegals from the country, simply look at the riots in Los Angeles. Our country is at stake when ICE arrests several illegals who are sexual predators, rapists, one murderer and other criminals which causes several thousand rioters to attack police and ICE agents with rocks, molatov cocktails, set fires to automobiles, rob businesses and stop traffic on freeways. They burn the American Flag while displaying flags from Mexico and other countries.

Amazingly Mayor Bass and Governor Newsom blame President Trump for sending in National Guard Troops. All while they took no action to protect their own police department officers who were attacked by the rioters. Democrats have no clue. You cannot have a lawless society. You have to enforce laws to maintain order in society.

Just another example of why I say all of the illegals must go in order for us to have a country. No one who breaks into the country as their first act will ever assimilate or be a decent citizen or respect our traditions.
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gtownbear said:

To understand the absolute necessity for removing these illegals from the country, simply look at the riots in Los Angeles. Our country is at stake when ICE arrests several illegals who are sexual predators, rapists, one murderer and other criminals which causes several thousand rioters to attack police and ICE agents with rocks, molatov cocktails, set fires to automobiles, rob businesses and stop traffic on freeways. They burn the American Flag while displaying flags from Mexico and other countries.

Amazingly Mayor Bass and Governor Newsom blame President Trump for sending in National Guard Troops. All while they took no action to protect their own police department officers who were attacked by the rioters. Democrats have no clue. You cannot have a lawless society. You have to enforce laws to maintain order in society.

Just another example of why I say all of the illegals must go in order for us to have a country. No one who breaks into the country as their first act will ever assimilate or be a decent citizen or respect our traditions.
Good points
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gtownbear said:

To understand the absolute necessity for removing these illegals from the country, simply look at the riots in Los Angeles. Our country is at stake when ICE arrests several illegals who are sexual predators, rapists, one murderer and other criminals which causes several thousand rioters to attack police and ICE agents with rocks, molatov cocktails, set fires to automobiles, rob businesses and stop traffic on freeways. They burn the American Flag while displaying flags from Mexico and other countries.

Amazingly Mayor Bass and Governor Newsom blame President Trump for sending in National Guard Troops. All while they took no action to protect their own police department officers who were attacked by the rioters. Democrats have no clue. You cannot have a lawless society. You have to enforce laws to maintain order in society.

Just another example of why I say all of the illegals must go in order for us to have a country. No one who breaks into the country as their first act will ever assimilate or be a decent citizen or respect our traditions.
They blame Trump because the protests were settling down until he got involved. Sending in the National Guard only made the situation worse (which is presumably what Trump intended).
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Sam Lowry said:

gtownbear said:

To understand the absolute necessity for removing these illegals from the country, simply look at the riots in Los Angeles. Our country is at stake when ICE arrests several illegals who are sexual predators, rapists, one murderer and other criminals which causes several thousand rioters to attack police and ICE agents with rocks, molatov cocktails, set fires to automobiles, rob businesses and stop traffic on freeways. They burn the American Flag while displaying flags from Mexico and other countries.

Amazingly Mayor Bass and Governor Newsom blame President Trump for sending in National Guard Troops. All while they took no action to protect their own police department officers who were attacked by the rioters. Democrats have no clue. You cannot have a lawless society. You have to enforce laws to maintain order in society.

Just another example of why I say all of the illegals must go in order for us to have a country. No one who breaks into the country as their first act will ever assimilate or be a decent citizen or respect our traditions.
They blame Trump because the protests were settling down until he got involved. Sending in the National Guard only made the situation worse (which is presumably what Trump intended).
Sam, come on, don't play the fool. You're not that thick
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Assassin said:

Sam Lowry said:

gtownbear said:

To understand the absolute necessity for removing these illegals from the country, simply look at the riots in Los Angeles. Our country is at stake when ICE arrests several illegals who are sexual predators, rapists, one murderer and other criminals which causes several thousand rioters to attack police and ICE agents with rocks, molatov cocktails, set fires to automobiles, rob businesses and stop traffic on freeways. They burn the American Flag while displaying flags from Mexico and other countries.

Amazingly Mayor Bass and Governor Newsom blame President Trump for sending in National Guard Troops. All while they took no action to protect their own police department officers who were attacked by the rioters. Democrats have no clue. You cannot have a lawless society. You have to enforce laws to maintain order in society.

Just another example of why I say all of the illegals must go in order for us to have a country. No one who breaks into the country as their first act will ever assimilate or be a decent citizen or respect our traditions.
They blame Trump because the protests were settling down until he got involved. Sending in the National Guard only made the situation worse (which is presumably what Trump intended).
Sam, come on, don't play the fool. You're not that thick
Mark my words. These people have no intention of ever giving up power.
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Sam Lowry said:

Assassin said:

Sam Lowry said:

gtownbear said:

To understand the absolute necessity for removing these illegals from the country, simply look at the riots in Los Angeles. Our country is at stake when ICE arrests several illegals who are sexual predators, rapists, one murderer and other criminals which causes several thousand rioters to attack police and ICE agents with rocks, molatov cocktails, set fires to automobiles, rob businesses and stop traffic on freeways. They burn the American Flag while displaying flags from Mexico and other countries.

Amazingly Mayor Bass and Governor Newsom blame President Trump for sending in National Guard Troops. All while they took no action to protect their own police department officers who were attacked by the rioters. Democrats have no clue. You cannot have a lawless society. You have to enforce laws to maintain order in society.

Just another example of why I say all of the illegals must go in order for us to have a country. No one who breaks into the country as their first act will ever assimilate or be a decent citizen or respect our traditions.
They blame Trump because the protests were settling down until he got involved. Sending in the National Guard only made the situation worse (which is presumably what Trump intended).
Sam, come on, don't play the fool. You're not that thick
Mark my words. These people have no intention of ever giving up power.
Look, I admit it. You had me fooled when you said you were a conservative. The past few months have proved that to be absurb. Ya got me. Well done.
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Sam Lowry said:

Assassin said:

Sam Lowry said:

gtownbear said:

To understand the absolute necessity for removing these illegals from the country, simply look at the riots in Los Angeles. Our country is at stake when ICE arrests several illegals who are sexual predators, rapists, one murderer and other criminals which causes several thousand rioters to attack police and ICE agents with rocks, molatov cocktails, set fires to automobiles, rob businesses and stop traffic on freeways. They burn the American Flag while displaying flags from Mexico and other countries.

Amazingly Mayor Bass and Governor Newsom blame President Trump for sending in National Guard Troops. All while they took no action to protect their own police department officers who were attacked by the rioters. Democrats have no clue. You cannot have a lawless society. You have to enforce laws to maintain order in society.

Just another example of why I say all of the illegals must go in order for us to have a country. No one who breaks into the country as their first act will ever assimilate or be a decent citizen or respect our traditions.
They blame Trump because the protests were settling down until he got involved. Sending in the National Guard only made the situation worse (which is presumably what Trump intended).
Sam, come on, don't play the fool. You're not that thick
Mark my words. These people have no intention of ever giving up power.
Democrats? Yes, we knew that already.
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Assassin said:

Sam Lowry said:

Assassin said:

Sam Lowry said:

gtownbear said:

To understand the absolute necessity for removing these illegals from the country, simply look at the riots in Los Angeles. Our country is at stake when ICE arrests several illegals who are sexual predators, rapists, one murderer and other criminals which causes several thousand rioters to attack police and ICE agents with rocks, molatov cocktails, set fires to automobiles, rob businesses and stop traffic on freeways. They burn the American Flag while displaying flags from Mexico and other countries.

Amazingly Mayor Bass and Governor Newsom blame President Trump for sending in National Guard Troops. All while they took no action to protect their own police department officers who were attacked by the rioters. Democrats have no clue. You cannot have a lawless society. You have to enforce laws to maintain order in society.

Just another example of why I say all of the illegals must go in order for us to have a country. No one who breaks into the country as their first act will ever assimilate or be a decent citizen or respect our traditions.
They blame Trump because the protests were settling down until he got involved. Sending in the National Guard only made the situation worse (which is presumably what Trump intended).
Sam, come on, don't play the fool. You're not that thick
Mark my words. These people have no intention of ever giving up power.
Look, I admit it. You had me fooled when you said you were a conservative. The past few months have proved that to be absurb. Ya got me. Well done.
Conservatives are wary of unchecked executive power. There aren't many left, but the time was when the GOP was home to quite a few of us.
Assassin
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Sam Lowry said:

Assassin said:

Sam Lowry said:

Assassin said:

Sam Lowry said:

gtownbear said:

To understand the absolute necessity for removing these illegals from the country, simply look at the riots in Los Angeles. Our country is at stake when ICE arrests several illegals who are sexual predators, rapists, one murderer and other criminals which causes several thousand rioters to attack police and ICE agents with rocks, molatov cocktails, set fires to automobiles, rob businesses and stop traffic on freeways. They burn the American Flag while displaying flags from Mexico and other countries.

Amazingly Mayor Bass and Governor Newsom blame President Trump for sending in National Guard Troops. All while they took no action to protect their own police department officers who were attacked by the rioters. Democrats have no clue. You cannot have a lawless society. You have to enforce laws to maintain order in society.

Just another example of why I say all of the illegals must go in order for us to have a country. No one who breaks into the country as their first act will ever assimilate or be a decent citizen or respect our traditions.
They blame Trump because the protests were settling down until he got involved. Sending in the National Guard only made the situation worse (which is presumably what Trump intended).
Sam, come on, don't play the fool. You're not that thick
Mark my words. These people have no intention of ever giving up power.
Look, I admit it. You had me fooled when you said you were a conservative. The past few months have proved that to be absurb. Ya got me. Well done.
Conservatives are wary of unchecked executive power. There aren't many left, but the time was when the GOP was home to quite a few of us.
Trump is nothing compared to what Biden and his staff had.
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Assassin said:

Sam Lowry said:

Assassin said:

Sam Lowry said:

Assassin said:

Sam Lowry said:

gtownbear said:

To understand the absolute necessity for removing these illegals from the country, simply look at the riots in Los Angeles. Our country is at stake when ICE arrests several illegals who are sexual predators, rapists, one murderer and other criminals which causes several thousand rioters to attack police and ICE agents with rocks, molatov cocktails, set fires to automobiles, rob businesses and stop traffic on freeways. They burn the American Flag while displaying flags from Mexico and other countries.

Amazingly Mayor Bass and Governor Newsom blame President Trump for sending in National Guard Troops. All while they took no action to protect their own police department officers who were attacked by the rioters. Democrats have no clue. You cannot have a lawless society. You have to enforce laws to maintain order in society.

Just another example of why I say all of the illegals must go in order for us to have a country. No one who breaks into the country as their first act will ever assimilate or be a decent citizen or respect our traditions.
They blame Trump because the protests were settling down until he got involved. Sending in the National Guard only made the situation worse (which is presumably what Trump intended).
Sam, come on, don't play the fool. You're not that thick
Mark my words. These people have no intention of ever giving up power.
Look, I admit it. You had me fooled when you said you were a conservative. The past few months have proved that to be absurb. Ya got me. Well done.
Conservatives are wary of unchecked executive power. There aren't many left, but the time was when the GOP was home to quite a few of us.
Trump is nothing compared to what Biden and his staff had.
Sure, you keep telling yourself that while Trump systematically undermines checks and balances at a faster rate than even the alarmists expected. Whatever makes you feel good.
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Sam Lowry said:

gtownbear said:

To understand the absolute necessity for removing these illegals from the country, simply look at the riots in Los Angeles. Our country is at stake when ICE arrests several illegals who are sexual predators, rapists, one murderer and other criminals which causes several thousand rioters to attack police and ICE agents with rocks, molatov cocktails, set fires to automobiles, rob businesses and stop traffic on freeways. They burn the American Flag while displaying flags from Mexico and other countries.

Amazingly Mayor Bass and Governor Newsom blame President Trump for sending in National Guard Troops. All while they took no action to protect their own police department officers who were attacked by the rioters. Democrats have no clue. You cannot have a lawless society. You have to enforce laws to maintain order in society.

Just another example of why I say all of the illegals must go in order for us to have a country. No one who breaks into the country as their first act will ever assimilate or be a decent citizen or respect our traditions.
Sending in the National Guard only made the situation worse (which is presumably what Trump intended).
Living in your ivory tower has provided you one seriously jaded perspective.

Suspect if it was your home or business being fire bombed you wouldn't complain about the presence of the national guard
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Sam Lowry said:

Assassin said:

Sam Lowry said:

Assassin said:

Sam Lowry said:

gtownbear said:

To understand the absolute necessity for removing these illegals from the country, simply look at the riots in Los Angeles. Our country is at stake when ICE arrests several illegals who are sexual predators, rapists, one murderer and other criminals which causes several thousand rioters to attack police and ICE agents with rocks, molatov cocktails, set fires to automobiles, rob businesses and stop traffic on freeways. They burn the American Flag while displaying flags from Mexico and other countries.

Amazingly Mayor Bass and Governor Newsom blame President Trump for sending in National Guard Troops. All while they took no action to protect their own police department officers who were attacked by the rioters. Democrats have no clue. You cannot have a lawless society. You have to enforce laws to maintain order in society.

Just another example of why I say all of the illegals must go in order for us to have a country. No one who breaks into the country as their first act will ever assimilate or be a decent citizen or respect our traditions.
They blame Trump because the protests were settling down until he got involved. Sending in the National Guard only made the situation worse (which is presumably what Trump intended).
Sam, come on, don't play the fool. You're not that thick
Mark my words. These people have no intention of ever giving up power.
Look, I admit it. You had me fooled when you said you were a conservative. The past few months have proved that to be absurb. Ya got me. Well done.
Conservatives are wary of unchecked executive power. There aren't many left, but the time was when the GOP was home to quite a few of us.
It's almost cute how Sam imagines he can still sell himself as a 'conservative'.
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KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

gtownbear said:

To understand the absolute necessity for removing these illegals from the country, simply look at the riots in Los Angeles. Our country is at stake when ICE arrests several illegals who are sexual predators, rapists, one murderer and other criminals which causes several thousand rioters to attack police and ICE agents with rocks, molatov cocktails, set fires to automobiles, rob businesses and stop traffic on freeways. They burn the American Flag while displaying flags from Mexico and other countries.

Amazingly Mayor Bass and Governor Newsom blame President Trump for sending in National Guard Troops. All while they took no action to protect their own police department officers who were attacked by the rioters. Democrats have no clue. You cannot have a lawless society. You have to enforce laws to maintain order in society.

Just another example of why I say all of the illegals must go in order for us to have a country. No one who breaks into the country as their first act will ever assimilate or be a decent citizen or respect our traditions.
Sending in the National Guard only made the situation worse (which is presumably what Trump intended).
Living in your ivory tower has provided you one seriously jaded perspective.

Suspect if it was your home or business being fire bombed you wouldn't complain about the presence of the national guard
Unless the fire-bombing was a reaction to the presence of the National Guard, which was my point. Not that I would wait or depend on their help anyway.
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Sam Lowry said:

Assassin said:

Sam Lowry said:

Assassin said:

Sam Lowry said:

gtownbear said:

To understand the absolute necessity for removing these illegals from the country, simply look at the riots in Los Angeles. Our country is at stake when ICE arrests several illegals who are sexual predators, rapists, one murderer and other criminals which causes several thousand rioters to attack police and ICE agents with rocks, molatov cocktails, set fires to automobiles, rob businesses and stop traffic on freeways. They burn the American Flag while displaying flags from Mexico and other countries.

Amazingly Mayor Bass and Governor Newsom blame President Trump for sending in National Guard Troops. All while they took no action to protect their own police department officers who were attacked by the rioters. Democrats have no clue. You cannot have a lawless society. You have to enforce laws to maintain order in society.

Just another example of why I say all of the illegals must go in order for us to have a country. No one who breaks into the country as their first act will ever assimilate or be a decent citizen or respect our traditions.
They blame Trump because the protests were settling down until he got involved. Sending in the National Guard only made the situation worse (which is presumably what Trump intended).
Sam, come on, don't play the fool. You're not that thick
Mark my words. These people have no intention of ever giving up power.
Look, I admit it. You had me fooled when you said you were a conservative. The past few months have proved that to be absurb. Ya got me. Well done.
Conservatives are wary of unchecked executive power. There aren't many left, but the time was when the GOP was home to quite a few of us.
When they were pursuing forever wars, spending trillions and bending the knee to radical left?

You don't seem to understand that current state of the GOP is the result of the old GOP not representing their voters.
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Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

gtownbear said:

To understand the absolute necessity for removing these illegals from the country, simply look at the riots in Los Angeles. Our country is at stake when ICE arrests several illegals who are sexual predators, rapists, one murderer and other criminals which causes several thousand rioters to attack police and ICE agents with rocks, molatov cocktails, set fires to automobiles, rob businesses and stop traffic on freeways. They burn the American Flag while displaying flags from Mexico and other countries.

Amazingly Mayor Bass and Governor Newsom blame President Trump for sending in National Guard Troops. All while they took no action to protect their own police department officers who were attacked by the rioters. Democrats have no clue. You cannot have a lawless society. You have to enforce laws to maintain order in society.

Just another example of why I say all of the illegals must go in order for us to have a country. No one who breaks into the country as their first act will ever assimilate or be a decent citizen or respect our traditions.
Sending in the National Guard only made the situation worse (which is presumably what Trump intended).
Living in your ivory tower has provided you one seriously jaded perspective.

Suspect if it was your home or business being fire bombed you wouldn't complain about the presence of the national guard
Unless the fire-bombing was a reaction to the presence of the National Guard, which was my point. Not that I would wait or depend on their help anyway.
LOL

Bull****

If your home was in danger of getting fire bombed you would be screamimg for the authorities to save your precious ass.
 
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