The future automation of the workforce

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cowboycwr said:

When are the robots coming to replace the trades like HVAC, electricians, plumbers, etc. that a poster guaranteed us all was about to start happening?


That might be harder. White Collar jobs? Watch out!
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After my 4th divorce I robotted up that job.

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Nightmare fuel
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boognish_bear said:


Those would be a dream job for a pro hacker.
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Assassin said:


Droid must be about 2 years old!
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boognish_bear said:


This came out about a year ago. Would love to see how its going today, how many treatments they made vs screwed up, etc
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boognish_bear said:


This came out about a year ago. Would love to see how its going today, how many treatments they made vs screwed up, etc
AI doctors being sued for malpractice by AI lawyers before AI judges.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

When are the robots coming to replace the trades like HVAC, electricians, plumbers, etc. that a poster guaranteed us all was about to start happening?


That might be harder. White Collar jobs? Watch out!


Wait weren't you the poster claiming that? Or was it someone else? I don't even remember which thread it was to go pull it up
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cowboycwr said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

When are the robots coming to replace the trades like HVAC, electricians, plumbers, etc. that a poster guaranteed us all was about to start happening?


That might be harder. White Collar jobs? Watch out!


Wait weren't you the poster claiming that? Or was it someone else? I don't even remember which thread it was to go pull it up


Not sure the context. I see AI replacing lawyers programmers and such easier than plumbers and HVAC technicians.

AI might help diagnose but I don't see it pulling unclogging.

I can also see AI jumping back in time naked and using a phone book looking for women named Sara Connor.
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boognish_bear said:


Would that be theft as the magnetic energy would have dissipated into the air? Or were they sapping actual current? If so, how could they do that using magnets?

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Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

When are the robots coming to replace the trades like HVAC, electricians, plumbers, etc. that a poster guaranteed us all was about to start happening?


That might be harder. White Collar jobs? Watch out!


Wait weren't you the poster claiming that? Or was it someone else? I don't even remember which thread it was to go pull it up


Not sure the context. I see AI replacing lawyers programmers and such easier than plumbers and HVAC technicians.

AI might help diagnose but I don't see it pulling unclogging.

I can also see AI jumping back in time naked and using a phone book looking for women named Sara Connor.


It wasn't you. I found the thread it was on. It was the Reagan poster.

He claimed that AI and robots would soon replace even the trades.

When myself and others asked for clarification as we could not see a robot crawling through an attic to run wire, replace an AC system, fix a busted pipe, etc. He claimed they would soon be doing that and that house construction would change to make it easier for the robots to do those jobs.

The only argument he said that I could see happening was that you could soon get the option of having AI diagnose a problem over video and then walk you through the repairs. Which still would only work for certain repairs. Not for when a technician needs to physically plug into a system to test it (electric, ac, detect a small leak, etc.). Many also disagreed that this service would become an overnight popular option as many people don't want to do things themselves right now even with how to videos and sites that can teach one how to do it.





TLDR: this poster said that even trade jobs would soon be replaced by AI and robots for all manual home construction, repairs or remodels.
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boognish_bear said:


That is wicked!

Dr McCoy would still tell you that it's easier to use his tricorder. He's old school
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cowboycwr said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

When are the robots coming to replace the trades like HVAC, electricians, plumbers, etc. that a poster guaranteed us all was about to start happening?


That might be harder. White Collar jobs? Watch out!


Wait weren't you the poster claiming that? Or was it someone else? I don't even remember which thread it was to go pull it up


Not sure the context. I see AI replacing lawyers programmers and such easier than plumbers and HVAC technicians.

AI might help diagnose but I don't see it pulling unclogging.

I can also see AI jumping back in time naked and using a phone book looking for women named Sara Connor.


It wasn't you. I found the thread it was on. It was the Reagan poster.

He claimed that AI and robots would soon replace even the trades.

When myself and others asked for clarification as we could not see a robot crawling through an attic to run wire, replace an AC system, fix a busted pipe, etc. He claimed they would soon be doing that and that house construction would change to make it easier for the robots to do those jobs.

The only argument he said that I could see happening was that you could soon get the option of having AI diagnose a problem over video and then walk you through the repairs. Which still would only work for certain repairs. Not for when a technician needs to physically plug into a system to test it (electric, ac, detect a small leak, etc.). Many also disagreed that this service would become an overnight popular option as many people don't want to do things themselves right now even with how to videos and sites that can teach one how to do it.





TLDR: this poster said that even trade jobs would soon be replaced by AI and robots for all manual home construction, repairs or remodels.
It's extremely early in that future. The long game here is the next generation of smart appliances that can self repair, including HVAC, water pumps, etc. Homes will be built with easier access points and systems will be actively linked to monitor in real time. It will collect usage data and be able to analyze performance and performance aberrations to better make systems go longer without needing actual repair. Now they can't stop dealing with a mouse that eats through a line or Acts of God like flooding and storms, but that's the direction it's going. So I'd tell you it isn't about not needing humans completely, although future humanoids may be able to, it's about facilitating less need for them through better system management via AI and unit/system capabilities.
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ATL Bear said:

cowboycwr said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

When are the robots coming to replace the trades like HVAC, electricians, plumbers, etc. that a poster guaranteed us all was about to start happening?


That might be harder. White Collar jobs? Watch out!


Wait weren't you the poster claiming that? Or was it someone else? I don't even remember which thread it was to go pull it up


Not sure the context. I see AI replacing lawyers programmers and such easier than plumbers and HVAC technicians.

AI might help diagnose but I don't see it pulling unclogging.

I can also see AI jumping back in time naked and using a phone book looking for women named Sara Connor.


It wasn't you. I found the thread it was on. It was the Reagan poster.

He claimed that AI and robots would soon replace even the trades.

When myself and others asked for clarification as we could not see a robot crawling through an attic to run wire, replace an AC system, fix a busted pipe, etc. He claimed they would soon be doing that and that house construction would change to make it easier for the robots to do those jobs.

The only argument he said that I could see happening was that you could soon get the option of having AI diagnose a problem over video and then walk you through the repairs. Which still would only work for certain repairs. Not for when a technician needs to physically plug into a system to test it (electric, ac, detect a small leak, etc.). Many also disagreed that this service would become an overnight popular option as many people don't want to do things themselves right now even with how to videos and sites that can teach one how to do it.





TLDR: this poster said that even trade jobs would soon be replaced by AI and robots for all manual home construction, repairs or remodels.
It's extremely early in that future. The long game here is the next generation of smart appliances that can self repair, including HVAC, water pumps, etc. Homes will be built with easier access points and systems will be actively linked to monitor in real time. It will collect usage data and be able to analyze performance and performance aberrations to better make systems go longer without needing actual repair. Now they can't stop dealing with a mouse that eats through a line or Acts of God like flooding and storms, but that's the direction it's going. So I'd tell you it isn't about not needing humans completely, although future humanoids may be able to, it's about facilitating less need for them through better system management via AI and unit/system capabilities.
I genuinely worry we are at the second chapter of The Idiocracy. Most engineers, lawyers, and doctors soon will be rendered obsolete following by other white collar workers. Once the trade jobs are replaced, what is left for humanity other than leisure and idiocracy?
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Harrison Bergeron said:

ATL Bear said:

cowboycwr said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

When are the robots coming to replace the trades like HVAC, electricians, plumbers, etc. that a poster guaranteed us all was about to start happening?


That might be harder. White Collar jobs? Watch out!


Wait weren't you the poster claiming that? Or was it someone else? I don't even remember which thread it was to go pull it up


Not sure the context. I see AI replacing lawyers programmers and such easier than plumbers and HVAC technicians.

AI might help diagnose but I don't see it pulling unclogging.

I can also see AI jumping back in time naked and using a phone book looking for women named Sara Connor.


It wasn't you. I found the thread it was on. It was the Reagan poster.

He claimed that AI and robots would soon replace even the trades.

When myself and others asked for clarification as we could not see a robot crawling through an attic to run wire, replace an AC system, fix a busted pipe, etc. He claimed they would soon be doing that and that house construction would change to make it easier for the robots to do those jobs.

The only argument he said that I could see happening was that you could soon get the option of having AI diagnose a problem over video and then walk you through the repairs. Which still would only work for certain repairs. Not for when a technician needs to physically plug into a system to test it (electric, ac, detect a small leak, etc.). Many also disagreed that this service would become an overnight popular option as many people don't want to do things themselves right now even with how to videos and sites that can teach one how to do it.





TLDR: this poster said that even trade jobs would soon be replaced by AI and robots for all manual home construction, repairs or remodels.
It's extremely early in that future. The long game here is the next generation of smart appliances that can self repair, including HVAC, water pumps, etc. Homes will be built with easier access points and systems will be actively linked to monitor in real time. It will collect usage data and be able to analyze performance and performance aberrations to better make systems go longer without needing actual repair. Now they can't stop dealing with a mouse that eats through a line or Acts of God like flooding and storms, but that's the direction it's going. So I'd tell you it isn't about not needing humans completely, although future humanoids may be able to, it's about facilitating less need for them through better system management via AI and unit/system capabilities.
I genuinely worry we are at the second chapter of The Idiocracy. Most engineers, lawyers, and doctors soon will be rendered obsolete following by other white collar workers. Once the trade jobs are replaced, what is left for humanity other than leisure and idiocracy?


So the Morlocks were actually AI robots and not evolved worker class humans? I'll have to go back to the Time Machine and check that out!

It is interesting how the more tech does for us, the more dangerous it will be for us to forget how to do basic things that make tech possible. Will there be an elite class that oversees the AIs?
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EatMoreSalmon said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

ATL Bear said:

cowboycwr said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

When are the robots coming to replace the trades like HVAC, electricians, plumbers, etc. that a poster guaranteed us all was about to start happening?


That might be harder. White Collar jobs? Watch out!


Wait weren't you the poster claiming that? Or was it someone else? I don't even remember which thread it was to go pull it up


Not sure the context. I see AI replacing lawyers programmers and such easier than plumbers and HVAC technicians.

AI might help diagnose but I don't see it pulling unclogging.

I can also see AI jumping back in time naked and using a phone book looking for women named Sara Connor.


It wasn't you. I found the thread it was on. It was the Reagan poster.

He claimed that AI and robots would soon replace even the trades.

When myself and others asked for clarification as we could not see a robot crawling through an attic to run wire, replace an AC system, fix a busted pipe, etc. He claimed they would soon be doing that and that house construction would change to make it easier for the robots to do those jobs.

The only argument he said that I could see happening was that you could soon get the option of having AI diagnose a problem over video and then walk you through the repairs. Which still would only work for certain repairs. Not for when a technician needs to physically plug into a system to test it (electric, ac, detect a small leak, etc.). Many also disagreed that this service would become an overnight popular option as many people don't want to do things themselves right now even with how to videos and sites that can teach one how to do it.





TLDR: this poster said that even trade jobs would soon be replaced by AI and robots for all manual home construction, repairs or remodels.
It's extremely early in that future. The long game here is the next generation of smart appliances that can self repair, including HVAC, water pumps, etc. Homes will be built with easier access points and systems will be actively linked to monitor in real time. It will collect usage data and be able to analyze performance and performance aberrations to better make systems go longer without needing actual repair. Now they can't stop dealing with a mouse that eats through a line or Acts of God like flooding and storms, but that's the direction it's going. So I'd tell you it isn't about not needing humans completely, although future humanoids may be able to, it's about facilitating less need for them through better system management via AI and unit/system capabilities.
I genuinely worry we are at the second chapter of The Idiocracy. Most engineers, lawyers, and doctors soon will be rendered obsolete following by other white collar workers. Once the trade jobs are replaced, what is left for humanity other than leisure and idiocracy?


So the Morlocks were actually AI robots and not evolved worker class humans? I'll have to go back to the Time Machine and check that out!

It is interesting how the more tech does for us, the more dangerous it will be for us to forget how to do basic things that make tech possible. Will there be an elite class that oversees the AIs?




There is a read that the climate hoax depopulation push is a cover for we will not need many humans in the future.


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Harrison Bergeron said:

ATL Bear said:

cowboycwr said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

When are the robots coming to replace the trades like HVAC, electricians, plumbers, etc. that a poster guaranteed us all was about to start happening?


That might be harder. White Collar jobs? Watch out!


Wait weren't you the poster claiming that? Or was it someone else? I don't even remember which thread it was to go pull it up


Not sure the context. I see AI replacing lawyers programmers and such easier than plumbers and HVAC technicians.

AI might help diagnose but I don't see it pulling unclogging.

I can also see AI jumping back in time naked and using a phone book looking for women named Sara Connor.


It wasn't you. I found the thread it was on. It was the Reagan poster.

He claimed that AI and robots would soon replace even the trades.

When myself and others asked for clarification as we could not see a robot crawling through an attic to run wire, replace an AC system, fix a busted pipe, etc. He claimed they would soon be doing that and that house construction would change to make it easier for the robots to do those jobs.

The only argument he said that I could see happening was that you could soon get the option of having AI diagnose a problem over video and then walk you through the repairs. Which still would only work for certain repairs. Not for when a technician needs to physically plug into a system to test it (electric, ac, detect a small leak, etc.). Many also disagreed that this service would become an overnight popular option as many people don't want to do things themselves right now even with how to videos and sites that can teach one how to do it.





TLDR: this poster said that even trade jobs would soon be replaced by AI and robots for all manual home construction, repairs or remodels.
It's extremely early in that future. The long game here is the next generation of smart appliances that can self repair, including HVAC, water pumps, etc. Homes will be built with easier access points and systems will be actively linked to monitor in real time. It will collect usage data and be able to analyze performance and performance aberrations to better make systems go longer without needing actual repair. Now they can't stop dealing with a mouse that eats through a line or Acts of God like flooding and storms, but that's the direction it's going. So I'd tell you it isn't about not needing humans completely, although future humanoids may be able to, it's about facilitating less need for them through better system management via AI and unit/system capabilities.
I genuinely worry we are at the second chapter of The Idiocracy. Most engineers, lawyers, and doctors soon will be rendered obsolete following by other white collar workers. Once the trade jobs are replaced, what is left for humanity other than leisure and idiocracy?


Agreed. There have been so many Hollywood takes on this. Either humanity evolves and society gets more utopian like say Star Trek or Star Wars (or other sci fi movies/shows)societies where robots do everything…..


Or people become lazier, get fatter, more violent (because it is robots fighting) and we end up with Hollywood takes like Idiocracy, Wall-e, that Bruce Willis one where everyone lived through VR/robot skins, or others where people just stay inside all the time.
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EatMoreSalmon said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

ATL Bear said:

cowboycwr said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

When are the robots coming to replace the trades like HVAC, electricians, plumbers, etc. that a poster guaranteed us all was about to start happening?


That might be harder. White Collar jobs? Watch out!


Wait weren't you the poster claiming that? Or was it someone else? I don't even remember which thread it was to go pull it up


Not sure the context. I see AI replacing lawyers programmers and such easier than plumbers and HVAC technicians.

AI might help diagnose but I don't see it pulling unclogging.

I can also see AI jumping back in time naked and using a phone book looking for women named Sara Connor.


It wasn't you. I found the thread it was on. It was the Reagan poster.

He claimed that AI and robots would soon replace even the trades.

When myself and others asked for clarification as we could not see a robot crawling through an attic to run wire, replace an AC system, fix a busted pipe, etc. He claimed they would soon be doing that and that house construction would change to make it easier for the robots to do those jobs.

The only argument he said that I could see happening was that you could soon get the option of having AI diagnose a problem over video and then walk you through the repairs. Which still would only work for certain repairs. Not for when a technician needs to physically plug into a system to test it (electric, ac, detect a small leak, etc.). Many also disagreed that this service would become an overnight popular option as many people don't want to do things themselves right now even with how to videos and sites that can teach one how to do it.





TLDR: this poster said that even trade jobs would soon be replaced by AI and robots for all manual home construction, repairs or remodels.
It's extremely early in that future. The long game here is the next generation of smart appliances that can self repair, including HVAC, water pumps, etc. Homes will be built with easier access points and systems will be actively linked to monitor in real time. It will collect usage data and be able to analyze performance and performance aberrations to better make systems go longer without needing actual repair. Now they can't stop dealing with a mouse that eats through a line or Acts of God like flooding and storms, but that's the direction it's going. So I'd tell you it isn't about not needing humans completely, although future humanoids may be able to, it's about facilitating less need for them through better system management via AI and unit/system capabilities.
I genuinely worry we are at the second chapter of The Idiocracy. Most engineers, lawyers, and doctors soon will be rendered obsolete following by other white collar workers. Once the trade jobs are replaced, what is left for humanity other than leisure and idiocracy?


So the Morlocks were actually AI robots and not evolved worker class humans? I'll have to go back to the Time Machine and check that out!

It is interesting how the more tech does for us, the more dangerous it will be for us to forget how to do basic things that make tech possible. Will there be an elite class that oversees the AIs?

Can't wait till I get a robot that can butter my toast...
"Never put a sock in a toaster." — Eddie Izzard
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Anyone remember Terminator II?

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Harrison Bergeron said:

ATL Bear said:

cowboycwr said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

When are the robots coming to replace the trades like HVAC, electricians, plumbers, etc. that a poster guaranteed us all was about to start happening?


That might be harder. White Collar jobs? Watch out!


Wait weren't you the poster claiming that? Or was it someone else? I don't even remember which thread it was to go pull it up


Not sure the context. I see AI replacing lawyers programmers and such easier than plumbers and HVAC technicians.

AI might help diagnose but I don't see it pulling unclogging.

I can also see AI jumping back in time naked and using a phone book looking for women named Sara Connor.


It wasn't you. I found the thread it was on. It was the Reagan poster.

He claimed that AI and robots would soon replace even the trades.

When myself and others asked for clarification as we could not see a robot crawling through an attic to run wire, replace an AC system, fix a busted pipe, etc. He claimed they would soon be doing that and that house construction would change to make it easier for the robots to do those jobs.

The only argument he said that I could see happening was that you could soon get the option of having AI diagnose a problem over video and then walk you through the repairs. Which still would only work for certain repairs. Not for when a technician needs to physically plug into a system to test it (electric, ac, detect a small leak, etc.). Many also disagreed that this service would become an overnight popular option as many people don't want to do things themselves right now even with how to videos and sites that can teach one how to do it.





TLDR: this poster said that even trade jobs would soon be replaced by AI and robots for all manual home construction, repairs or remodels.
It's extremely early in that future. The long game here is the next generation of smart appliances that can self repair, including HVAC, water pumps, etc. Homes will be built with easier access points and systems will be actively linked to monitor in real time. It will collect usage data and be able to analyze performance and performance aberrations to better make systems go longer without needing actual repair. Now they can't stop dealing with a mouse that eats through a line or Acts of God like flooding and storms, but that's the direction it's going. So I'd tell you it isn't about not needing humans completely, although future humanoids may be able to, it's about facilitating less need for them through better system management via AI and unit/system capabilities.
I genuinely worry we are at the second chapter of The Idiocracy. Most engineers, lawyers, and doctors soon will be rendered obsolete following by other white collar workers. Once the trade jobs are replaced, what is left for humanity other than leisure and idiocracy?
I have hope that humanity elevates as it has through every great technological evolution. Not that there won't be struggles. Peter Drucker has a great quote about massive change in economies and societies, "The greatest danger in times of turbulence isn't the turbulence. It is to act with yesterday's logic."
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boognish_bear said:




But can they dunk?
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Porteroso said:

The very first thing to do, before even thinking of UBI, is tax automation to the point where you can pay for retraining of every worker who loses their job. That includes jobs lost to AI. Identify similar fields, retrain the workforce.

If the taxes are high enough on automation, jobs won't be lost for small savings, and that's what you want. Only where automation is vastly better, should it cost a human a career.


You do have a point, after all we are just coming to and end where 40 years of outsourcing and mass immigration in pursuit of quarterly profits all but destroyed our nation.

However, barring some sort of nuclear non proliferation style controls on AI not all countries will be willing to do this. Not to mention that cyber technology is infinitely harder to control than nuclear weaponry.

What happens if a country like China where life is cheap and individuality and freedom aren't valued refuses to play ball?
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ATL Bear said:

Anyone remember Terminator II?




Just don't tell it that global warming is real and CO2 is the biggest threat to the planet.
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boognish_bear said:


Bezos hates people...
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